How fast was classic Quicksilver?

[Magneto_X]

Pre-Busiek Avengers run, I mean.

Anybody know?

[Dermie]

I don't think exact speed limits for him were ever defined.

Also, just fyi, Busiek never gave Quicksilver a speed increase...he just used the increase that had already been established in the QUICKSILVER solo series.

[Jake V]

For some reason I remember it capping off at around the speed of sound.

[Magneto_X]

For some reason I remember it capping off at around the speed of sound.

I thought he was slower then that.

Any Marvel characters who are twice as fast as Cassandra Cain, btw?

[Jake V]

JUST twice as fast? Northstar comes to mind, Nightcrawler, Wolverine on a good day, Spider-Man, etc.

Beyond twice as fast gets you The Sentry, Silver Surfer, all of Marvel's cosmic characters, Quicksilver, etc.

Is this all for one of the inane Batgirl vs... threads on rumbles? I'm suddenly reminded why I banned myself from there.

[Magneto_X]

No, its for an RPG thread.

"CBR War".

Btw, I mean running speed. So Nightcrawler doesn't count. :)

[Jake V]

No, its for an RPG thread.

"CBR War".

Btw, I mean running speed. So Nightcrawler doesn't count. :)
Nightcrawler is agile as hell. He can run fast even if he doesn't need to.

Captain America has a pretty high running speed. Based on the principles of the Super Soldier Serum, he should be FASTER than any non-enhanced runner. Peak human potential and all that.

[Magneto_X]

Nightcrawler is agile as hell. He can run fast even if he doesn't need to.

Captain America has a pretty high running speed. Based on the principles of the Super Soldier Serum, he should be FASTER than any non-enhanced runner. Peak human potential and all that.

Yes, but I need someone whose an example of twice as Cassie's speed. It's for my profile to explain how my fast my character can run at his peak.

[powerforward]

for some reason i think that handbook had quicksilver's speed top out at 180 mile per hour. it may have been less than that but i don't think it was any more.

[mattbib]

The OHotMU: Master Edition listed Pietro's speed as 'subsonic,' which was defined as having a peak range of 250-500 miles per hour.

[Doom]

The handbooks low-ball Quicksilvers speed.

In the Cosmic Marathon issue of Quasar, Quicksilver is shown to have run about 250,000 (ish) KM in a number of hours. (Far less then a day.)

I remember doing the math for that and even with conservative estimates, put his standard speed around MACH 14-18. (Giving him an average speed.)

He's had high end feats like running all over the Earth in one Avengers Annual or just before House of M where he runs from New York to Genhosia in minutes.

Now it should be noted that the Isotope E injection supposidly removed QS top speed limit, and as long as he can keep running he can keep moving faster.

Overall I'd put Quicksilvers speed in a few times MACH. Not really higher then MACH 25. Incredibly fast by any standards, but a drop in the ocean compared to the Flashes of this multiverse.


That of course assumes,

that Quicksilvers mutant power is super speed.

[Paradox]

I'd assume by pre-Busiek that he means pre-Isotope E, since there were so few of us that were actually reading Quicksilver by then. :(

[riotgear]

In the original Handbook, he was listed at a top speed of 150 mph. When Master Edition came out, he was indeed listed at "Subsonic", rated at between 250-500 mph. When he was exposed to Isotope E, his top speed was not listed, but in Avengers Volume 3, he ran from New York City, across the ocean, to Europe in 15 minutes.

[Kirk G]

In the original Handbook, he was listed at a top speed of 150 mph. When Master Edition came out, he was indeed listed at "Subsonic", rated at between 250-500 mph. When he was exposed to Isotope E, his top speed was not listed, but in Avengers Volume 3, he ran from New York City, across the ocean, to Europe in 15 minutes.
That's really interesting, considering NYC to Europe is over the ocean.
Ditto for Genosha....

Also, I recall when he learned that by pressing his legs together, he could float and run up walls, defying gravity... in about Volume One Avengers #77 or so.

Anyone else remember that?

[tricksterpup]

He was faster than my 84 VW Jetta

[Kirk G]

He was faster than my 84 VW Jetta
Is that the Quin-Jetta from the GLA???

[riotgear]

That's really interesting, considering NYC to Europe is over the ocean.
Ditto for Genosha....

Also, I recall when he learned that by pressing his legs together, he could float and run up walls, defying gravity... in about Volume One Avengers #77 or so.

Anyone else remember that?

He is able to run fast enough to run on top of water. That was the point.

[Frank]

Considering that Kirby drew him as a blur basicly, I would say he`s pretty fast.

[Harold of the Rocks]

Considering that Kirby drew him as a blur basicly, I would say he`s pretty fast.

Or Kirby was loaded... ;)

Incidentally, I also am subsonic at my top speed. That doesn't exactly narrow it down much amongst us Homo Sapien types... ;)

[mattbib]

When he was exposed to Isotope E, his top speed was not listed, but in Avengers Volume 3, he ran from New York City, across the ocean, to Europe in 15 minutes.And don't forget that he was carrying Bruce Banner when doing so, so that would have slowed him down somewhat.

Which brings up another question...how was Banner protected from the rigors of travelling at such speed?

[Steve]

So was Ron Lim loaded too?

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5062/quicky9ae.jpg

[Jolly Mon]

He was faster than my 84 VW Jetta

True, but what wasn't? :D

[Kirk G]

So was Ron Lim loaded too?

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5062/quicky9ae.jpg

Very sweet!
(PS: The only loaded thing around Jack Kirby was his pencil and his imagination! :D )

[streator]

Considering that Kirby drew him as a blur basicly, I would say he`s pretty fast.
yeah. he even appears to be flying on this cover:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/avengers/avengers45.jpg

[Will.S]

yeah. he even appears to be flying on this cover:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/avengers/avengers45.jpg
Hah, that looks pretty silly.

[Paradox]

streator needs the clue-in:

yeah. he even appears to be flying on this cover:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/avengers/avengers45.jpg

For a short period of time during that era, Pietro could, indeed, fly. Not just run up walls, etc., but actually "fly like Superman". They ditched it rather quickly, and, IMHO, he's better off without it.

[Frank]

I think he used to fly because the concept on Pietro was of some sort of fairy-inspired character since the Avengers had this sort-of swashbuckling-type group and spirit with bowmen, knights, witchs. Or you could say he was a pissed-off Peter Pan.

[Kirk G]

I think he used to fly because the concept on Pietro was of some sort of fairy-inspired character since the Avengers had this sort-of swashbuckling-type group and spirit with bowmen, knights, witchs. Or you could say he was a pissed-off Peter Pan.
Frank, what are you on? :eek:
I recall the explanation that if he pressed his legs together, the humming could allow him to fly for a short distance, but being fairy-inspired? I think you must be confusing him with Jean-Paul of Northstar fame when he and his sister were reduced to sprites or fairy-people for a VERY SHORT time.... :rolleyes:

[Frank]

Just look at him, the green color, the robin hood little boots, he`s Peter Pan. Northstar is inspired by Quicksilver but he`s actually more of an attempt by John Byrne to bring the Wonder Twins to comics.