View Full Version : Batgirl vs. Midnighter vs. Samurai Jack
Darth Joker
09-04-2005, 05:49 PM
Three of CBRs favourite marital artists... all at least vaguely metahuman... all have been argued to beat Batman/Captian America in straight-up, no prep fights...
Who wins this, and why?
raoulduke
09-04-2005, 05:55 PM
Samurai Jack probably has the more jacked up physical stats than anyone else. I'd say he takes it.
Eliseu Gouveia
09-04-2005, 05:55 PM
The real fight is between Midnighter and Samurai Jack.
Broblawsky0
09-04-2005, 06:03 PM
Samurai Jack wins the fight between him and Midnighter. Midnighter's battle computer won't work as well on Jack because it requires that he detect his opponents enhancements to get a good tactical solution, and Jack's abilities are based on genre conventions which are fundamentally different from the WSU, where you can't just become superhuman through sheer training and badassery. Midnighter won't know what to make of Jack, and we've seen what happens to Midnighter when his battle-computer gets confused.
Metaphysician
09-04-2005, 06:15 PM
Or failing that, Jack just blitzes midnighter, leaving the Battle Computer telling him "In the million simulation runs, you get your ass kicked in all of them. Bend over." :)
fuaak
09-04-2005, 06:17 PM
Midnighter, written right, is stupidly more powerful than Batgirl - he's got much more of everything she has, including strength, speed, prediction ability and a taste for men. I would think that Middy'd actually be one of the few people who would give Jack a good fight.
I still think Jack would have the ultimate edge though, because of the general craziness of everything he does.
maczero
08-18-2007, 04:18 PM
Thread Revival
Samurai Jack wins the fight between him and Midnighter. Midnighter's battle computer won't work as well on Jack because it requires that he detect his opponents enhancements to get a good tactical solution, and Jack's abilities are based on genre conventions which are fundamentally different from the WSU, where you can't just become superhuman through sheer training and badassery. Midnighter won't know what to make of Jack, and we've seen what happens to Midnighter when his battle-computer gets confused.It looks like Broblawsky0 won't be able to expand on this but does anyone know why he's saying Midnighter's computer would have trouble with Jack?
The Zapper
08-18-2007, 04:20 PM
My money is on Jack on this one.
Thorlief
08-18-2007, 04:27 PM
Jack would probably win, but I'd love to see Trent smacking him for good in some uber-violent way
I HATE Samurai Jack. HATE him.
The Immortal Watch Dog
08-18-2007, 04:39 PM
My money is on Jack on this one.
there was an episode where a sumo wrestler..that wseemed to weigh..multiletons (some peope calc it at several hundred tons..but i dont buy it) but he probably ten or twenty tons..given that he was..ten times jack size and just a giant walking ass..and thunder theighs-decides to bring all that massive wiehgt right on jacks face
and he more or less squated the fat ass right off him and proceeded to pwn
so my issue goes..even if hjack isent as fdast as midnighter (and if he;s like an ultra cassie then its quit possible he is faster then jack)
jacks body has the durability..to take anything he can dish out
The Immortal Watch Dog
08-18-2007, 04:44 PM
Jack would probably win, but I'd love to see Trent smacking him for good in some uber-violent way
I HATE Samurai Jack. HATE him.
i feel you..i liked aku alot more he was awesome
but why hate him??? was he really that bad?
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
08-19-2007, 06:13 AM
Jack beats them both. At the same time. While teaching them a lesson on how to fight opponents that are out of your league by several leaps and bounds.
Thorlief
08-19-2007, 06:29 AM
i feel you..i liked aku alot more he was awesome
but why hate him??? was he really that bad?
it's just me, I know. It's that he's really too polite, too humble, too good
Darth Joker
08-19-2007, 07:46 AM
I love how many of my old threads get necromancied. It certainly helps keep the memories alive! :D
I actually made this thread since all three of these characters were winning almost every CBR fight that they were in at the time, so I thought it would be neat to see two of them lose for a change. ;)
The Immortal Watch Dog
08-19-2007, 02:11 PM
I love how many of my old threads get necromancied. It certainly helps keep the memories alive! :D
I actually made this thread since all three of these characters were winning almost every CBR fight that they were in at the time, so I thought it would be neat to see two of them lose for a change. ;)
your like..my sensei...then lol
Ragnorok64
08-19-2007, 03:07 PM
there was an episode where a sumo wrestler..that wseemed to weigh..multiletons (some peope calc it at several hundred tons..but i dont buy it) but he probably ten or twenty tons..given that he was..ten times jack size and just a giant walking ass..and thunder theighs-decides to bring all that massive wiehgt right on jacks face
and he more or less squated the fat ass right off him and proceeded to pwn
so my issue goes..even if hjack isent as fdast as midnighter (and if he;s like an ultra cassie then its quit possible he is faster then jack)
jacks body has the durability..to take anything he can dish outYeah... that's totally not how it happened.
Tubbymora (however you spell that) was stated to be like 700 tons (which I think is alot of narrative hyperbole). He jumped high in the air and pancaked onto Jack. Jack then managed to crawl his way out form under his blubber to the point he could get his head out from underneath of him. He then proceeded to use his top knot ribbon to tickle Tubbymora into submition.
A far cry from squat lifting the guy.
The Immortal Watch Dog
08-19-2007, 08:12 PM
Yeah... that's totally not how it happened.
Tubbymora (however you spell that) was stated to be like 700 tons (which I think is alot of narrative hyperbole). He jumped high in the air and pancaked onto Jack. Jack then managed to crawl his way out form under his blubber to the point he could get his head out from underneath of him. He then proceeded to use his top knot ribbon to tickle Tubbymora into submition.
A far cry from squat lifting the guy.
point still stands that he survived a giant multi tonned fat ass..trying to crush him
so his durability is insane
Darth Joker
08-19-2007, 10:07 PM
point still stands that he survived a giant multi tonned fat ass..trying to crush him
so his durability is insane
Agreed. I think that the point is, though, that it's more of a "damage soak feat" than it is a "strength feat".
Nobody should question Samurai Jack's insane damage soak as it is, but his strength level is a bit more debateable (I think).
literally exaggerated
08-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Midnighter is a good fight for someone like Spiderman. Samurai jack would eviscerate Spiderman.
SiliconDream
08-20-2007, 01:15 AM
Samurai Jack wins the fight between him and Midnighter. Midnighter's battle computer won't work as well on Jack because it requires that he detect his opponents enhancements to get a good tactical solution, and Jack's abilities are based on genre conventions which are fundamentally different from the WSU, where you can't just become superhuman through sheer training and badassery. Midnighter won't know what to make of Jack, and we've seen what happens to Midnighter when his battle-computer gets confused.
But Midnighter's computer works just fine on robots, Doctors, aliens, and superpeople from several parallel Earths and alternate dimensions--including the DCU, where you can become superhuman through training (even if Captain Atom didn't.) Why would it fail on Jack in particular?
I don't think he'll win, but I don't think he'll have a seizure just from looking at the guy.
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