Why does so few like Episode II?

[Dark Soul # 7]

It´s my second favorite Star Wars movie.
The dialouge is great, except for the love scenes which is the only real bad part about the movie.
It raises intressting political questions.
It has two villains, Dooku and Jango, who are both supperior to Maul and Grevious in every way.
Besides the duel between Anakin and Dooku there´s some really good action sequences.
The plot, the acting, the special effects is all good if not great.
The way Palpatine manipulates everybody around him is really shown here and when you think about it he pretty much planned everything perfectly.

I just don´t understand how come so few people like this movie and then praise Episode III. The only thing better in Ep.III was the fights, nothing else.

[Jared]

It´s my second favorite Star Wars movie.
The dialouge is great, except for the love scenes which is the only real bad part about the movie.


That probably sums it up. The love story is integral to the movie, and to the whole Skywalker saga, yet every scene that covers it is just a chore to watch. I've noticed that general reaction to the movie seemed much better when it first came out, then over time got worse. I think it's partly because the sheer spectacle of the last 30 minutes or so isn't as impressive at home as it was in the theater.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I got conned into going to the theatre and I actually cringed my teeth everytime Annie was onscreen.

It´s one of the few actors whose acting is physically painful for me to watch.

[Headhunter]

The 2nd trilogy doesn't compare to the original.

Phantom Menace had the most anticipation, Revenge of the Sith was the darkest.

That left Attack of the Clones in the unenviable position of following after a bomb, and loading it up with buildup for the trilogy's conclusion. Unlike The Empire Strikes back (or The Two Towers, etc), it didn't work very well.

[Captain Trips]

I thought Episode II was awesome. I've never understood why people didn't like the love story. I thought it worked. The scenes that involved the love story weren't terribly long, so I never thought the movie got bogged down by it. The action was great, and the plot followed the threads of Episode I and set up Episode III very nicely.

I'd hardly call Episode I a bomb. It was a good movie. People have criticized this film way too much. It's important to show Anakin at this stage of his life, and how his emotional attachments (which was why the Jedi said he was too old to be trained) will dictate the most important decisions he makes throughout his life. This makes it more understandable when Vader turns on the Emperor in Episode VI to save Luke. This is the only time Anakin is able to save someone he cares for.

I've heard all the arguments about the bad acting and the bad dialogue. Give me a break. These movies are really good. Their only real downfall is that there was no way that they would ever live up to the mythical status of the original trilogy. Those films appealed to generations of people who had never seen anything like them before. They were imagination made real on the screen. My 8 year old cousin is a Star Wars addict. He loves the films. Thing is, he has never seen the original trilogy. He loves Episodes I-III. He knows them inside and out. Has all the toys. Acts out all the scenes. Just like we did when we were kids.

[Rabid Trekkie]

I think I'm one of the few who wasn't bothered by Anakin in Ep.1 (some of the lines given to that kid were indefensible but anyway) but in Ep.2 I wanted to beat the tar out of him. He did nothing but whine and stalk Padme. I could deal with him crying and whining when his mom died, that is more than understandable. But when he's all "It hurts to be near you" or whatever I wanted to jump on screen and kill him. I would have taken the exact same scenes of Han and Leia all over again better than that.

Oh and it isn't the originals (and I mean the real originals, not these dolled up 3.0 versions) which had a great love story, action that didn't look like it should have been done by Jet Li, and just an overall sense of fun that the new ones haven't had. Course I haven't seen Ep.3 yet but still overall the first are the best.

[JerrBear81]

Oh, I'd say it's one scene in particular:

Amidala: Oh Anakin, we can't be together at all! Now lustfully look at me in this leather dress that makes me look like a dominatrix and lick my hairy feet, Whiny Bitchboy!

[Rabid Trekkie]

Oh, I'd say it's one scene in particular:

Amidala: Oh Anakin, we can't be together at all! Now lustfully look at me in this leather dress that makes me look like a dominatrix and lick my hairy feet, Whiny Bitchboy!

Yeah but if you mute it it becomes one of the best scenes in the movie.

[Mr. Nobody]

I just didn't get anything out of it. Too much time was spent on the politcal aspects for a Star Wars movie. Not that it shouldn't have been there they should have pushed it into the background more, so i didn't have to be bored by it, and focused the characters individual stories. Remember how in the original, Darth Vader dismantled the Senate with a throw away line? They should have handled things more like that.

Clones doesn't really, seem to me, to stand on its own in anyway. Instead it just tries to coast along based on our familarity with the francise without bothering to restablish a reason to care about the characters or much of anything that's going on. All Clones really accomplishes is to, rather awkwardly, provide some set up for episode three, where the actual story finally starts.

However, all my other complaints sort of pale in comparision in my disgust towards the movie for turning one of the coolest villians of all time into a whiney bitch.

[blackdragon6]

its not bad the dialogue was um interesting to say the least.but the jedi's kicked ass at the end

[Dr. Banner]

C-3PO's bad puns also didn't help the movie, along with that horrible video-game sequence that looked like it belonged on a SNES game version of the movie where Padme and Anakin were going through that droid-building facility or whatever it was.

Just to add to the list of horrible things that were in this movie. If it didn't have the name "Star Wars" attached, the movie would have been quite the financial failure, there is no doubt in my mind.

[K'Nort]

It wasn't just 50% love scenes. It was 50% Massengill commercial.

[blackdragon6]

^ huh? i dont get it

[Jared]

The 2nd trilogy doesn't compare to the original.

Phantom Menace had the most anticipation, Revenge of the Sith was the darkest.

That left Attack of the Clones in the unenviable position of following after a bomb, and loading it up with buildup for the trilogy's conclusion. Unlike The Empire Strikes back (or The Two Towers, etc), it didn't work very well.


Episode I was hardly a bomb, considering it not only did huge box office, but set DVD sales records when it came out too. So for all the bitching about it (and hey, I include myself) an awful lot of us saw that movie more than once.

[Buried Alien]

When REVENGE OF THE SITH is released on DVD later this year, I (like many other people) will attempt the new experience of watching all six STAR WARS movies in one sitting. The entire saga might take on a whole new dimension after watching it like that (and I don't mean just blurry vision either). :)

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[JerrBear81]

I just didn't get anything out of it. Too much time was spent on the politcal aspects for a Star Wars movie. Not that it shouldn't have been there they should have pushed it into the background more, so i didn't have to be bored by it, and focused the characters individual stories. Remember how in the original, Darth Vader dismantled the Senate with a throw away line? They should have handled things more like that.

Clones doesn't really, seem to me, to stand on its own in anyway. Instead it just tries to coast along based on our familarity with the francise without bothering to restablish a reason to care about the characters or much of anything that's going on. All Clones really accomplishes is to, rather awkwardly, provide some set up for episode three, where the actual story finally starts.

However, all my other complaints sort of pale in comparision in my disgust towards the movie for turning one of the coolest villians of all time into a whiney bitch.

I bet ya if Episode I Ani could would walk up to Episode II Ani he'd pull him down to face level by the collar of his shirt and bitchslap him for being such a whiny bitchboy. Then commit Sepuku to save himself from such a fate.

[JerrBear81]

Yeah but if you mute it it becomes one of the best scenes in the movie.

LMAO! Me and my sister whispered about how much of a cocktease she was in that scene during the movie.

[WebSlinger]

What I disliked most about Episode II was Hayden's performance as Anakin - too whiney and his voice was irritating. Didn't help that the dialogue wasn't great either.

Anakin and Padme's love scenes were beyond cheesy for me. At least with the original trilogy you could truly see the chemistry between Han and Leia, making it one of the most memorable film romances in modern classic cinema. With Anakin and Padme it was edam cheese which became pretty damn boring, I even remember hearing someone snoring lightly when they had fallen asleep during one the love scenes which me and my friend found understandably amusing.

The positives of the film which did redeem it a little was definitely getting to see Yoda finally use a lightsabre when taking out Count Dooku, that scene actually managed to liven up the theater, as a few people had walked out and no one was sleeping any longer ;) Also having Christopher Lee as Count Dooku was perfect casting. Lee has always been one of my favourite actors, and big screen bad guys, and this role fit him like a glove being the legend he is.

Jango Fett was meh!, Nothing too shoddy, nothing too special.