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Draconomicon
09-04-2005, 06:12 AM
Hopefully this will help to lessen the impact of this horrible catastrophe.
U.S. thanks dozens of foreign countries for aid

By Sue Pleming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Friday thanked dozens of foreign governments -- rich and poor, enemy and friend -- for their offers to help the world's wealthiest country recover from devastating Hurricane Katrina.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said just as the United States responded generously to disasters worldwide, so had nearly 60 nations come to America's side after Hurricane Katrina ripped through New Orleans and other parts of the U.S. Gulf Coast, killing hundreds and possibly thousands of people.

"Today, we are seeing a similar urgent, warm and compassionate reaction from the international community in response to Katrina," Rice told a news conference.

Rice said no aid had been turned down and she was particularly moved by an offer from Sri Lanka, itself recovering from last year's Indian Ocean tsunami.

"Every contribution is important," said Rice, who plans to visit some of the stricken areas over the weekend in Alabama, where her own family comes from.

The State Department has set up a task force to cope with the dozens of offers coming in from foreign nations, trying to match them up with needs on the ground.

Embassies in the U.S. capital have swamped the department with offers, ranging from cash donations to helicopters, tents and medical teams.

While help has come from longtime American friends such as Japan, Germany, Canada, France and Britain, offers have also been made by critics of the U.S. government, including Cuba and Venezuela.

Cuban President Fidel Castro, calling a "truce" in Havana's ideological enmity with Washington, offered to fly 1,100 doctors to Houston with 26 tons of medicine to treat people in the disaster area.

Castro's leftist ally, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez offered to send cheap fuel but the State Department said a decision had not been made on whether to accept this offer.

In Mexico City, a Foreign Ministry official told reporters Mexico was sending 15 truckloads of water, food and medical supplies via Texas, and the Mexican navy had offered to send two ships, two helicopters and 15 amphibious vehicles

Rice canceled her vacation this week and returned to work when the devastation from the hurricane became clear. She said she had spoken via telephone to her counterparts in a number of foreign capitals.

"In my discussions with my counterparts, I've been heartened at their offers of both short-term and long-term support," she said.

The State Department has also been trying to track down all of its 165 employees who work at a busy passport office in New Orleans and has tried to secure the office from looters.

In addition, State Department specialists who usually are used abroad in disasters have been assigned to help with the relief efforts.

The department said offers of help had been received from: Australia, Austria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Belgium, Canada, China, Columbia, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, the European Union, France, Germany, Guatemala, Greece, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, NATO, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the Organization of American States, Paraguay, Philippines, Portugal, South Korea, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the World Health Organization.

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http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-09-02T235528Z_01_BAU271501_RTRIDST_0_USREPORT-WEATHER-KATRINA-FOREIGN-DC.XML

International agency offers fuel reserves to U.S.

Friday, September 2, 2005 Posted: 1751 GMT (0151 HKT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Bush administration official said the International Energy Agency "has agreed to make 60 million barrels of product available" to help the United States weather the economic problems caused by Hurricane Katrina.

Samuel Bodman said the product, crude oil or gasoline, will go to the marketplace over the next month at the rate of 2 million barrels per day.

"The United States welcomes this historic and unanimous decision," Bodman said.

The announcement comes after the 26 members of the IEA debated by telephone and e-mail about releasing some reserves because damage from Katrina curtailed production along the Gulf of Mexico.

More reserves would help the United States cope with the oil supply shortage spurred by the hurricane. The United States is a member of the agency.

In the United States, the Association of Oil Pipelines said all pipelines that had been put out of service by Katrina were operating, but at lowered capacity.
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/iea.reserves/index.html

Schroeder backs world oil reserve release

BERLIN, Germany (CNN) -- German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder on Friday said he supported a U.S. request for the release of international oil reserves in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Schroeder said Germany's had a "historic duty" to support the United States because of U.S. aid to post-World War II Germany.

"The United States of America has asked the International Energy Agency (IEA) to put part of the international oil reserves on the market. It is natural for us to support that American request," said Schroeder told a hastily called news conference.

More reserves would help the United States cope with an oil supply shortage caused by the hurricane.

The IEA did not confirm a U.S. request. But the 26 members of the IEA are debating by telephone and e-mail about releasing some oil because damage from Katrina curtailed production along the Gulf of Mexico.

A U.S. Embassy spokesman in Berlin said he's unaware of any U.S. request, although he said the United States welcomed any help offered.

Schroeder's statement comes amid concern across Europe over growing gasoline prices. Also, he is currently is in the middle of an election campaign, and polls are indicating he will lose to conservative challenger Angela Merkel. The election is September 18.

"The pictures we've seen on TV are difficult to bear," he said. "It's not only our historic duty, since we received so much help after the Second World War, but we should of course give all the help that's possible."

Schroeder said a "consequence" of an IEA move is "that national governments will give some of their reserves" to soften oil prices.

"There is also a great responsibility of the international companies that serve this market. Right after such a situation, with terrible pictures from America, they not only have business responsibilities but also human ones; there should be international solidarity," Schroeder said.

CNN Berlin Correspondent Chris Burns contributed to this report
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/02/germany.katrina.oil/index.html

BlairH
09-04-2005, 06:59 AM
Cuba flying "doctors" and "medicine" to the US?
hmmmm....call me suspicious.

But otherwise, that's great.

Wesley Dodds
09-04-2005, 07:02 AM
Cuba's a horrible place but it would be suicidal for them to send "doctors" (terrorists?!) so I think you can assume their help is safe.

BlairH
09-04-2005, 07:05 AM
Cuba's a horrible place but it would be suicidal for them to send "doctors" (terrorists?!) so I think you can assume their help is safe.

Maybe instead of sending doctors they'll send the dregs of Cuba's jails? Maybe they'll send SCARFACE!

Motormouse
09-04-2005, 08:29 AM
Cuba flying "doctors" and "medicine" to the US?
hmmmm....call me suspicious.

But otherwise, that's great.

I hear that Cuba has the best nation health service in the world, so don't look a gift horse in the mouth. :eek:

BlairH
09-04-2005, 09:01 AM
I hear that Cuba has the best nation health service in the world, so don't look a gift horse in the mouth. :eek:
There's also an urban myth that their education system is "better than Americas".

And remember: Mussolini kept the trains on time.

ocelotrevs
09-04-2005, 09:16 AM
Why are people suspicious of another country sending help, this is a disaster and I don't think the Cubans will be using this too murder innocence

Typo Lad
09-04-2005, 09:25 AM
Cuba flying "doctors" and "medicine" to the US?
hmmmm....call me suspicious.

Will "paranoid and delusional, but still a nice bloke" do?

jade_nova
09-04-2005, 11:40 AM
It's good to see France helping out since it was their city first.

JerrBear81
09-04-2005, 11:43 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/03/katrina.castro/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Castro offers medical aid to U.S.

Saturday, September 3, 2005; Posted: 4:33 a.m. EDT (08:33 GMT)

HAVANA, Cuba (CNN) -- Cuban President Fidel Castro has offered to send help to the United States in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

At a nightly roundtable program on state-run television Friday, the Cuban leader said his nation was ready to send 1,100 doctors and 26 tons of medicine and equipment.

"Others have sent money; we are offering to save lives," he said.

Castro -- an enemy of U.S. President George W. Bush and frequent subject of condemnation from the White House -- said he would not comment on the U.S. government's response to the tragedy because "this is not the time to kick an adversary -- while he's down."

Castro said the doctors he was offering have international experience.

The United States has no diplomatic relations with Cuba. It remained unclear whether the White House would take Castro up on his offer.

After a massive earthquake in Bam, Iran, in December 2003, the United States sent aid -- even though the United States has no diplomatic ties with Iran.

I have no idea what to make of this. However, one question pops in my mind. Will the President say yes or no? What are the implications if he accepts or refuses? Is this a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation?

BlairH
09-04-2005, 11:57 AM
I heard about this somewhere...
I wonder what kind of "medicine" Castro will send?

spoon_jenkins
09-04-2005, 11:58 AM
There's also an urban myth that their education system is "better than Americas".

And remember: Mussolini kept the trains on time.
Well, I don't think the Mussolini thing is a myth as much as an ironic juxtaposition of efficiency with extreme inhumanity.

Now, if we think the who leads the nation these Cuban doctors come from is more important than their medical skills, we should reject them. But if we value people's health above pride and anti-Communist posturing, we should find a place where they can be helpful.

JerrBear81
09-04-2005, 11:58 AM
I heard about this somewhere...
I wonder what kind of "medicine" Castro will send?

Well only he knows I guess, hehe! Still, I can't help but think whatever decision Bush makes he'll get criticism for his choice, from both parties.

Wesley Dodds
09-04-2005, 12:04 PM
I'd take the doctors and use it as an excuse for detente with Cuba and ending the embargo to liberalise its economy by stealth.

Adam Crocker
09-04-2005, 12:04 PM
I heard about this somewhere...
I wonder what kind of "medicine" Castro will send?

Probably regular medicine. Yeah he's been on the outs with the U.S. for years, but so far the only reading I'm getting is that this as a conciliatory gesture to try and improve relations.

MJC
09-04-2005, 12:12 PM
There's also an urban myth that their education system is "better than Americas".


Almost everybody's education system is "better than America's", at least for people that don't live in affluent suburbs.

We do have good colleges though.

Charles RB
09-04-2005, 12:51 PM
Will the President say yes or no? What are the implications if he accepts or refuses?

In the short-term, if he refuses there's 1,100 less doctors and 26 tons less of medicine to help out New Orleans and he looks like a humongous arsehole to the whole world. If he does accept, it means Bush & America can't diplomatically ignore Cuba any more and has to be diplomatic to it (which is what Castro wants) or, again, he looks like a humongous arsehole.

Is this a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation?

Depends what you think of Castro's regime. If you think it's a bad thing, then yes, it is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

Valmore
09-04-2005, 12:53 PM
I heard about this somewhere...
I wonder what kind of "medicine" Castro will send?

Cubanos, of course!

PatrickG
09-04-2005, 01:17 PM
I heard about this somewhere...
I wonder what kind of "medicine" Castro will send?

Enough baseball players to revitalize public interest in the sport?

Magneto_X
09-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Castro made Bush Jr. look incredibly incompetent since Cuba didn't have one single casualty when they got Katrina.

Then again, making Bush Jr. look bad isn't exactly difficult. :)

BlairH
09-04-2005, 01:47 PM
Castro made Bush Jr. look incredibly incompetent since Cuba didn't have one single casualty when they got Katrina.

Then again, making Bush Jr. look bad isn't exactly difficult. :)

Then again, Cuba didn't have to deal with Katrina hitting a coastal (more or less) city below sea level.

K'Nort
09-04-2005, 02:02 PM
I got a bit choked up when I saw in the paper that Sri Lanka has donated $25,000. Out of gratitude for the tsunami assistance.

K'Nort
09-04-2005, 02:08 PM
This is a no-brainer gesture for Castro. And they really would be there to save lives. Any other suspicion is on a par with tinfoil hats.

It is very possible that Bush is legally prohibited from accepting the offer, due to the terms of the embargo et al. An embargo that I've been saying since the Reagan administration should be lifted completely.

Adam Crocker
09-04-2005, 02:08 PM
Depends what you think of Castro's regime. If you think it's a bad thing, then yes, it is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

I'm not so sure it's merely contingent on that. I think it is also contingent on what you think of the longstanding approach to his regime by the U.S. and how the country should continue to handle him. I for one don't exactly think Castro's regime is necessarily a good thing, on the other hand I am at a loss for what the U.S. embargo has accomplished and will continue to accomplish.

Tommy
09-04-2005, 02:08 PM
It's good to see France helping out since it was their city first.
Also Great Brittan which was responsible for the last time New Orleans was distroyed.

The Joker
09-04-2005, 02:13 PM
The department said offers of help had been received from: Australia, Austria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Belgium, Canada, China, Columbia, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, the European Union, France, Germany, Guatemala, Greece, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, NATO, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the Organization of American States, Paraguay, Philippines, Portugal, South Korea, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the World Health Organization.

This is great news. Good to hear.

Adam Crocker
09-04-2005, 02:23 PM
I heard about this somewhere...
I wonder what kind of "medicine" Castro will send?

Regarding this and your suspicions on the world sending aid thread:

The only reasonable ulterior motive of Castro's that I can think of is to make a good gesture that might get in good with the U.S. and hopefully try to slacken the embargo. That's it. Any dodgy behaviour Cuban medical personnel will rightfully reflect back badly on him and bring more severe reprisals from the U.S. And what could he possibly hope to accomplish under the circumstances? Moreover, I haven't seen anything to indicate that Castro's particularly bloodthirsty (at least moreso than any other dictator who uses violence to suppress dissidents) not to mention stupid and insane that he'd commit suicide by trying to carry out a terrorist attack on the U.S. Given his meeting with President Carter where he was wearing a suit and this the old bastard might just be looking at changing his tact on the embargo, at least that's what some insiders say (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/20/time.letter/index.html).

BlairH
09-04-2005, 02:43 PM
Regarding this and your suspicions on the world sending aid thread:

The only reasonable ulterior motive of Castro's that I can think of is to make a good gesture that might get in good with the U.S. and hopefully try to slacken the embargo. That's it. Any dodgy behaviour Cuban medical personnel will rightfully reflect back badly on him and bring more severe reprisals from the U.S. And what could he possibly hope to accomplish under the circumstances? Moreover, I haven't seen anything to indicate that Castro's particularly bloodthirsty (at least moreso than any other dictator who uses violence to suppress dissidents) not to mention stupid and insane that he'd commit suicide by trying to carry out a terrorist attack on the U.S. Given his meeting with President Carter where he was wearing a suit and this the old bastard might just be looking at changing his tact on the embargo, at least that's what some insiders say (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/20/time.letter/index.html).

(pssst) Not being entirely serious :o

Adam Crocker
09-04-2005, 03:07 PM
(pssst) Not being entirely serious :o

Arrgggh! Damn you Blair! You may have humiliated me, but rest assured! My revenge shall be nondescript and boring! http://www.issue9mm.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif

Punchy
09-04-2005, 05:42 PM
If the guy wants to help, let him help.

You're going to refuse doctors and medicine for sick and homeless people just to save face? I should hope not.

Adam Crocker
09-04-2005, 06:24 PM
You're going to refuse doctors and medicine for sick and homeless people just to save face? I should hope not.

You might be surprised. As my dad said, geopolitics is just schoolyard politics on a bigger scale. Unfortunately, I've seen far too much evidence to confirm that statement.