View Full Version : Should they turn X-Men AOA into a ongoing series?
Teamballin
08-28-2005, 11:38 PM
Okay, I thought that the X-Men AOA mini series they recently ran was great. I didn't like how they killed off my boy Remy but hey it was still great quality. What you guys think of the series? Should they turn it into an ongoing series?
Brian M.
08-29-2005, 12:21 AM
Yes with one of the original writers as the writer. Lobdell would be my choice.
Babylon23
08-29-2005, 12:23 AM
I don't think so. AOA was good for it's time, but I don't think we need an alternate reality X-books. They already have Exiles for that sort of thing.
monkeyjunkie
08-29-2005, 12:24 AM
absolutely not, we have exiles for the alternate reality fun and too many x-books to begin with. Plus it'd probably start with steller numbers but be cancelled by issue 18 so whats the point?
kawasakidave78
08-29-2005, 03:21 AM
absolutely not, we have exiles for the alternate reality fun and too many x-books to begin with. Plus it'd probably start with steller numbers but be cancelled by issue 18 so whats the point?
Yeah I work in a comic shop, and we only keep about a year's worth of back issues on the back issue wall. We have all the X-family books next to each other on the shelf, and the visual impact of the ridiculous number of x-books from the last 12 months is staggering.
SleepWalker
08-29-2005, 05:15 AM
Nope, I don't think it should be an ongoing series. The original AoA was awesome because of situation that reality was in. It was vastly different than mainstream X-Men and the horror of it all surrounded Apocalypse and the world he had molded.
As far as I'm concerned, especially after reading the recent mini, the world of AoA officially ended in X-Men Omega. I don't think the AoA reality warrants ANY stories that take place after that. It's Age of Apocalypse, so to me, if he's not in it, then there really is no point.
Now, if Lobdell were to return and write some stories within the original AoA timeframe, I'd be on top of that. I think there could be a lot of different things explored in that, but otherwise let's just leave it alone.
TheWolfOfAsgard
08-29-2005, 05:23 AM
I don't think AoA needs to be an ongoing series...but can we please please please have Sinister adopt that look!?
Crimson
08-29-2005, 05:55 AM
Before the mini I would of said yes, after it... no. Unless they got a totally different creative team who knew their AoA.
fishtaco
08-29-2005, 06:30 AM
No no no no no no no no no no!!!!!!!
Alan2099
08-29-2005, 07:37 AM
Let's pretend that the miniseries never happened. Now, after saying that, seeing an AOA special graphic novel of giant sized once a year or so could work.
Beast
08-29-2005, 09:01 AM
Yeah, I could see it as an occassional miniseries every so often. But keep Akira Yoshida far away from it. I'm actually suprised that his Kitty Pryde mini has actually been decent, after the last two big stinkburgers from him.
Ryan K
08-29-2005, 09:05 AM
No we have Exiles. Let them pop up there every now and the if it'll boost sales. But really, I'm just sick of alternate realities at the moment.
The Lucky One
08-29-2005, 09:30 AM
Remember what made the original Days of Future Past such a great story? Because it was done once, and then left alone. As soon as we started revisiting it and getting all these other little offshoots, the concept was diluted, to the point where it's a total cliche these days. Remember what made the AoA cool? It was a one-shot deal, 4 months of a cool new concept that had a defined beginning, middle, and end. Turn it into a regular thing and it's just another damn crossover... as, indeed, it's perilously close to being now, after that miniseries that very few people seem to have liked. Leave it alone, never revisit it again, and people's memories of the original will stay brighter.
-D
fishtaco
08-29-2005, 09:46 AM
Remember what made the original Days of Future Past such a great story? Because it was done once, and then left alone. As soon as we started revisiting it and getting all these other little offshoots, the concept was diluted, to the point where it's a total cliche these days. Remember what made the AoA cool? It was a one-shot deal, 4 months of a cool new concept that had a defined beginning, middle, and end. Turn it into a regular thing and it's just another damn crossover... as, indeed, it's perilously close to being now, after that miniseries that very few people seem to have liked. Leave it alone, never revisit it again, and people's memories of the original will stay brighter.
-DThe Days of Future Past story was nowhere near finished after Uncanny X-Men 142. There was still much to tell about Rachel Summers and Kate Pryde, and then introduce the Hounds and Ahab. Plus how all the X-Men died, and the origin of the Phoenix Force. I still think that it should have been left alone after Excalibur 67, with the exception of Chris Claremont's upcoming "Grey's End" story, with DOFP in it according to the solicitation. But I do agree that stories like Days of Future Tense and Days of Future Now were unneccessary.
Accroître
08-29-2005, 09:53 AM
No. The original idea was great. The second AOA didn't need to happen. We don't need another universe to read about. We already have 616, Ultimate, and Exiles.
Sandy Hausler
08-29-2005, 10:06 AM
Okay, I thought that the X-Men AOA mini series they recently ran was great. I didn't like how they killed off my boy Remy but hey it was still great quality. What you guys think of the series? Should they turn it into an ongoing series?
Uh, no.
Sandy Hausler
Flight
08-29-2005, 01:15 PM
They should replace the 616 versions of Iceman, Exodus, Sunfire & Dazzler with the AOA counterparts.
They should replace the 616 versions of Iceman, Exodus, Sunfire & Dazzler with the AOA counterparts.
Why? You will have a fish out of water concept since AOA is an alternate world. I think the mainstream Marvel Universe versions are fine. Sunfire had no business dying in Rogue's book just so she could have his powers.
Flight
08-29-2005, 01:35 PM
Why? Because our versions of those characters suck!
The Lucky One
08-29-2005, 01:46 PM
Because our versions of those characters suck!
And somewhere, a thousand Dazzler fans began sharpening their knives...
-D
TheWolfOfAsgard
08-29-2005, 01:47 PM
And somewhere, a thousand Dazzler fans began sharpening their knives...
-D
LOL priceless.
Novaya Havoc
08-29-2005, 03:51 PM
Actually, I would prefer the pretty, blonde AoA Dazzler in the silver outfit over Claremont's uber-butch Harley-ridin' travesty.
Beast
08-29-2005, 03:58 PM
Actually, I would prefer the pretty, blonde AoA Dazzler in the silver outfit over Claremont's uber-butch Harley-ridin' travesty.
You read New Excalibur already? Because as far as I know, it's not out yet. Judging the character from one cover with her motorcycle and pink hair isn't really fair to the character or writer. :)
Flight
08-29-2005, 04:01 PM
You read New Excalibur already? Because as far as I know, it's not out yet. Judging the character from one cover with her motorcycle and pink hair isn't really fair to the character or writer. :) Seeing as he/she is talking about Dazzler's appearence, I'd say its fair.
jadegiant77
08-29-2005, 04:05 PM
If they did a series on the ORIGINAL AOA, yes. The recent mini-series, I'd have to say NOO--OO--OO! That was pure "D" crap!
Henry T.
08-29-2005, 04:18 PM
Well I'm not the biggest fan of AOA (the original or the new mini) but I did think that the recent mini was a mess and had bad dialogue and that the original story was far superior.
Some of the things didn't make sense like Betsy being her ninja self etc.
However I did like them having Jean naturally be the Phoenix (like she is in 616 and Ultimate now). Having the Phoenix be Mutant Alpha and tied to Jean's ancestory and mutation was really nice. I also liked that she became the leader by the end and she did have a nice speech at the end too.
However everything was rushed and it wasn't executed well at all. The Jean stuff was left for the very end and it just felt like it was set up for a new ongoing or something.
Novaya Havoc
08-29-2005, 05:19 PM
You read New Excalibur already? Because as far as I know, it's not out yet. Judging the character from one cover with her motorcycle and pink hair isn't really fair to the character or writer. :)
Judging by Claremont's past handling of the character and the current appearance, I'd say it's more than fair. :)
Titan Slade
08-29-2005, 05:21 PM
Seeing as he/she is talking about Dazzler's appearence, I'd say its fair.
I agree. I judge characters by their appearance first. I hate my second favorite X-men character of all time Beast, now that he looks like a big, blue, Puss in the Boots :( . I will never forgive Morrison for this travesty :mad: .
Flameworthy
08-29-2005, 05:31 PM
Because our versions of those characters suck!
Says you, but as a Dazzler and Sunfire fan, I think both characters are/were perfectly fine as is. Bedard completely ruined Sunfire just to give Rogue his powers, which really infuriates me. He was just used as a cheesy plot device. Dazzler is fine right now, especially since she doesn't have anymore Mojo baggage, but judging from how CC handled her before, I'm not so sure she'll be in the safest hands.
ibrakeforchinwe
08-29-2005, 05:52 PM
Now that they ruined the original story, sure why not>?
Nightcrawler
08-29-2005, 06:59 PM
IMO, the only way an AOA ongoing would have worked, is if they had kept going with the original, and not taken a 10 year hiatus.
Dazzler was very well written as the reluctant X-Man during her run in Uncanny X-Men #210-260. Claremont showed a great contrast that Alison was still out of shape & had not enough practice in contrast to Rogue. I look foreward how Alison Blaire will play off the other characters in New Excalibur. Is Alison still more interested in her career? If so, why is in New Excalibur?
protege
08-30-2005, 09:44 AM
Why? You will have a fish out of water concept since AOA is an alternate world. I think the mainstream Marvel Universe versions are fine. Sunfire had no business dying in Rogue's book just so she could have his powers.
I'm a Sunfire fan from way back, but somehow, I preferred his AOA counterpart.
Blackcat
08-30-2005, 09:56 AM
There were a lot of good things in AoA, but the 2nd series was nothing compared to the 1st. An ongoing would probably distroy the whole mysterious
atmosphere there was with AoA 1. So my answer is NO!!!
But I must say I miss the AoA counterparts of Sunfire, Rogue, Banchee and Storm a lot and I still think Switchback was a cool character which I would love to see back one day, or see her counterpart in 616.
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Neolucifer
08-30-2005, 10:06 AM
i still say it could be good , but with a different team , and maybe not as an ongoing per se .. but rather as mini series
Beast
08-30-2005, 10:09 AM
I'd say just have the Exiles drop by every year or so, just for a little vacation. Tony Bedard said he wanted to do some downtime issues next year, where people stop into their home realities. So AOA seems like a likely stopping point for Blink and Sabretooth, if they're both still alive by then. :)
Sandy Hausler
08-30-2005, 11:25 AM
I'd say just have the Exiles drop by every year or so, just for a little vacation. Tony Bedard said he wanted to do some downtime issues next year, where people stop into their home realities. So AOA seems like a likely stopping point for Blink and Sabretooth, if they're both still alive by then. :)
Every year? I think once a decade would be more than enough. If they're going to go to someone's world, why not Morph's or Mimic's? They sound like more fun.
Sandy Hausler
Erebus
08-30-2005, 01:34 PM
This doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but where was Spider-Man during AoA?
dazzler_slave
08-30-2005, 01:55 PM
And somewhere, a thousand Dazzler fans began sharpening their knives...
-D
It's funny cuz it's true. Flight...Flight...we are coming for you Flight...the Disco Zombie Apostles of Dazzler...coming to make you one of us!
Teamballin
08-30-2005, 01:55 PM
This doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but where was Spider-Man during AoA?
To be honest, They never did mention Spidey ever in AOA. Perhaps he didn't exist. Gwen Stacy did tho, which was wierd.
I liked how AOA ended the first time, everyone died, making it impossible for there to be a ongoing series. Well, show how they managed to find a way to revamp the series therefore, the team that was left after this post AOA was a very different team and I wouldn't mind seeing how things would turn out.
dazzler_slave
08-30-2005, 02:00 PM
To be honest, They never did mention Spidey ever in AOA. Perhaps he didn't exist. Gwen Stacy did tho, which was wierd.
In The Apocalypse One Shot (I think it was called The Chosen) they mentioned that Peter was dead.
dazzler_slave
08-30-2005, 02:01 PM
Now that they ruined the original story, sure why not>?
You know, judging by everyone's comments, I am SO GLAD that financial constraints at the time kept me from getting that mini series. It sounds like it was just awful. I only have my memories of the original AOA and I think that this is for the best.
You know, judging by everyone's comments, I am SO GLAD that financial constraints at the time kept me from getting that mini series. It sounds like it was just awful. I only have my memories of the original AOA and I think that this is for the best.
The recent AOA limited suffers from too many continuity errors such as an Asian Psylocke (on this world, Betsy Braddock was dead), Moonstar appearing (since she died in the X-Calibre book), X-23 is introduced, & Jean Grey still becomes Phoenix.
Alan2099
08-30-2005, 02:25 PM
Not to mention all the additional Japanese people when Sunfire makes it clear in the orignal AOA that he's the only Japanese person to live though Apocalypse's killings.
Ryan K
08-30-2005, 03:22 PM
Don't forget that Magneto's kid wears a Spider-Man t-shirt even though, as just mentioned, Spider-Man never existed in AOA. Peter was dead. Perhaps Yoshida jumped the gun and started fitting House of M stuff in there.
TrickyDisco
08-30-2005, 04:11 PM
Oh NONONONO...No. Bad enough that they revived the original AoA recently!
In regards to Dazzler, I just re-read her Graphic novel, and I had totally forgotten how 'in' she was for her time....I hope they'll write her to kick some ass in the preent ;)
Beast
08-30-2005, 07:42 PM
It wasn't just a Spider-Man T-Shirt, but he even had silly string webshooters and a cheesy Spider-Man mask like Toy Biz makes. :)
DavidQ!
08-30-2005, 09:01 PM
Have they ever tried to create a utopia like AOA or Something that might have something positive. Not sure if it'll sell. But Yoshidas mess in the mini left much to be desired, and not sure i can stomach another AOA storyline.
As to who should write it, I dont know future stories can be tricky if it aint done right. How about Vaughn a ultimate version of the AOA.
DavidQ!
08-30-2005, 09:09 PM
Also am i the only one disturbed by Beast having powerpack Beast on his avatar. hmmm of all the picture of beast why that one. inquiring minds would like to know.
Beast
08-30-2005, 09:11 PM
What's disturbing about the Beast from the X-Men/Power Pack mini? I just wanted something different, and thought it was a good looking picture of Kitty Beast. *Shrugs*
DavidQ!
08-30-2005, 09:13 PM
Understandable considering I dont have one. I am avatarless. I feel so empty. wahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
nubly
08-30-2005, 11:24 PM
i liked the new mini it was a fun read. if an asian psylocke can exist in countless other realities, why cant she exist in this one? if the phoenix force can posses jean in countless realities, why cant it in this one? if the regular MU can have a batman movie, why cant the AOAU have a spidey movie? as far as all japanese dying after the culling, well how many times have entire races died only to find out that a handful survived?
i think it would be great to have an ongoing AOA but set in the past. there are hundreds of stories to tell there
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