Who should be in Milligan's X-Book ?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

With Milligan's X-Team being less than popular. Even with Havok,Iceman,Polaris and Gambit....who else should join ? What X-Man would you like to see join and revamp the team into something that clicks ?


I'd love to see Chamber , Jubilee or Banshee join. Because all 3 haven't really had much time in the books and all 3 could be cool to see in a new role. My philosphy is.." Anything that actually improves this book."


So who would you like to see in Milligans book ?

[Beast]

It's a bit early to ask who should join, with the end of House of M and the whole Decimation thing coming. Especially when characters like Chamber and Jubilee arn't even guarenteed to be alive or have powers post HoM. Especially with Generation M and whatever happens there in relation to Decimation. :)

[DavidQ!]

I say they resurrect a person they tieri shouldnt have killed in the first place. But whats the point. Sunspot would be cool. Hey question Why isnt Xmen part of the HOM storyline its part of the X-world and would definitely be affected.

[Beast]

Hey question Why isnt Xmen part of the HOM storyline its part of the X-world and would definitely be affected.
Because the comic writers were givin the option to have tie-in issues with HoM, or just to deal with the effects of it once it was over. Some writers did, and we get their HoM tie-in issues. Others didn't. So we'll get the effect issues starting in Novemeber. :)

[Titan Slade]

The team roster is not the problem, it's the bland writing and art team.

[Will.S]

Because the comic writers were givin the option to have tie-in issues with HoM, or just to deal with the effects of it once it was over. Some writers did, and we get their HoM tie-in issues. Others didn't. So we'll get the effect issues starting in Novemeber. :)
I'd love to seee Cable interact with the X-Men again when he's not soldiering elsewhere so I'd put him in.

[kawasakidave78]

If I could make one adjustment to the Millgan X-Men book roster, it would be to remove Milligan.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Lol....I already had a thread to vote him on or off guys. This is one on who you want on the team that you care to read about. I'm less than happy right now with it so I'm looking for a positive somewhere.

[Will.S]

Milligan is fine.

[Babylon23]

I picked up the trade of Milligan's first story and really enjoyed it. The only problem with the team is that it seems to be composed of all the characters no one else really wants. Unfortunately, this means many of the less popular X-Men appear in this book. I can't really think of any character that might offset this, as all of the popular ones are taken.

[UncannyAsianGirl]

I don't really agree with your "unpopular X-men" statement.

Rogue is consistently voted by fans to be among the "top 3 X-women", while both Iceman and Gambit are consitently in the top 3 for the "most popular X-men" list, and Emma's got fairly good exposure with her stints in both Adjectiveless and Astonishing. She usually tops the "Most sexiest X-woman" lists...

The two characters who people won't be too familiar with are Havok and Polaris, but they still have a pretty decently sized fan base.

One character I'd really like to see on this line-up is the recently-turned uber-evil-zombie Northstar. Most of the people on this line-up are, or at least were, known for their wit, be it sarcastic or otherwise, so why not?

Besides, he has a history with a few of the current team members, Rogue being one of them. And even though it was a bit weird, and under Austen, maybe he can hit on Bobby again? XD

[Babylon23]

I don't really agree with your "unpopular X-men" statement.

Rogue is consistently voted by fans to be among the "top 3 X-women", while both Iceman and Gambit are consitently in the top 3 for the "most popular X-men" list, and Emma's got fairly good exposure with her stints in both Adjectiveless and Astonishing. She usually tops the "Most sexiest X-woman" lists...

Oops, I forgot about Rogue. Also, I didn't realise that Iceman was popular at all. My mistake.
Is Emma a regular in X-Men? I assumed her appearance in the first Milligan story was a guest appearance, similar to Claremont's use of her in Chasing Hellfire.

[kawasakidave78]

Lol....I already had a thread to vote him on or off guys. This is one on who you want on the team that you care to read about. I'm less than happy right now with it so I'm looking for a positive somewhere.

Sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread. I just couldn't resist.

As far as the roster of the team goes, I would like to see Emma and Wolverine stop showing up. It is hard to see Alex as the team leader with the headmistress and somebody as experienced as Wolverine there to call the shots.

An addition of a character that would provide some comic relief would be nice. Your suggestion of Jubilee or Chamber would work in that respect if written right. Or maybe have some the existing team members wisecrack a little. Iceman cracking some jokes would be consistant with his character and significantly improve the book.

As far as Banshee goes, I don't want to see him in the book much for the same reasons I'd like to see Emma and Wolverine dissappear for a while.

[larroca fan]

Milligan is fine on this book in a interview he said it was hard finding his feet in this book (basically it was hard starting the book so he came up with golgotha and then he still found it hard after golgotha but then he said with my new arc coming up with black p he said he new how to control the storys and characters abit more)


on this team i wound take wolvierine out and replace him with psylocke (only if salvador draws her cause she's beautiful.
i wound replace gambit because (he looks weird because salvador's art went down and hes annoyin in this book) so wound replace gambler with peter or maybe lifeguard shes wicked and she just left the team in xtreme so i wanna she her again.

[fishtaco]

I say they resurrect a person they tieri shouldnt have killed in the first place. But whats the point. Sunspot would be cool. Hey question Why isnt Xmen part of the HOM storyline its part of the X-world and would definitely be affected.Sunspot is busy as it already is as a member of X-Force, director of X-Corporation in Los Angeles, and the Lord Imperial of the Hellfire Club. While Sunspot is a great character, he doesn't have any connections with anyone on the roster but Emma (except maybe a fight with Rogue). Due to his membership as a former New Mutant, he would likely bear a grudge against Emma (Just like Kitty, Dani, and Rahne), which is always something fun to read. If I could make one adjustment to the Millgan X-Men book roster, it would be to remove Milligan.Agreed.

I say exit Gambit, Wolverine, Emma, and Rogue for somewhere else and insert Husk, Mystique, Archangel, and Jubilee.

[Dizzy D]

Sunspot is busy as it already is as a member of X-Force, director of X-Corporation in Los Angeles, and the Lord Imperial of the Hellfire Club. While Sunspot is a great character, he doesn't have any connections with anyone on the roster but Emma (except maybe a fight with Rogue). Due to his membership as a former New Mutant, he would likely bear a grudge against Emma (Just like Kitty, Dani, and Rahne), which is always something fun to read. Agreed.

I don't think he bears a grudge against Emma, because of his current link with the Hellfire Club. If he really believes she can't change, he wouldn't believe the Hellfire Club could change. But I agree that Sunspot is busy.

I would say drop Wolverine and any of the rotating cast members (Emma) and put in Northstar and Archangel (and if you have to Husk, but Archangel could work alone as well.) I like Milligan's plots so far, but there should be links between the characters. In this case there are few pre-existing links, so those links should be built up.

So far I've seen the team mostly react to outward threats (Golgotha) and influences (Emma) and the interaction within the team has been along the previously established lines: Havok/Lorna/Bobby and Rogue/Gambit. What do Gambit and Rogue think about Alex? About Lorna? What does Havok think of his team-members?

[Cayman]

I'd give them Nightcrawler since Claremont doesn't do much with him, and also Northstar.

The line-up is pretty good as it is, everything's starting to gel.

Cay

[DavidQ!]

[QUOTE=fishtaco]Sunspot is busy as it already is as a member of X-Force, director of X-Corporation in Los Angeles, and the Lord Imperial of the Hellfire Club. While Sunspot is a great character, he doesn't have any connections with anyone on the roster but Emma (except maybe a fight with Rogue). Due to his membership as a former New Mutant, he would likely bear a grudge against Emma (Just like Kitty, Dani, and Rahne), which is always something fun to read. Agreed.

hmmm big talk from someone who hasnt said a name yet. Hmmmm. :)

[Flight]

Take out Gambit or Rogue. Leave one of them in.
Having both together is NOT WORKING Marvel!
Surely they can see that 90% of fans don't like these two together anymore? There are loads of Emma/Scott, Scott/Jean, Kitty/Colossus fans etc on this forum but you hardly see any Rogue/Gambit ones anymore.

Add Archangel, Husk & Northstar and keep Havok, Polaris (and if you must) Iceman.

[DavidQ!]

resurrect Cain, bring back sammy the squidboy, Kill Carter and Annie, bring in Shan and maybe i'll bring it back again.

[Beast]

resurrect Cain, bring back sammy the squidboy, Kill Carter and Annie, bring in Shan and maybe i'll bring it back again.
Resurrect Cain? Cain never died. He's back, and is one of the stars of New Excalibur. Sammy the Squidboy is Chuck Austen's character, so I doubt that he'll ever come back. Same with Carter and Annie, they are gone and long forgotten by now.

[We R. Venom]

The team roster is not the problem, it's the bland writing and art team.
Thats Correct!

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

Polaris and Iceman need to just get a room somewhere far outside the book. Havok can be single for awhile. Gambit needs to go with Mystique. Rogue can be single for awhile. Northstar can come back if they promise not to kill or unnecessarily hurt him. Colossus should be in this group too I think.


And a reformed Sinister.

k maybe that last is stretching it a bit.

[DavidQ!]

Resurrect Cain? Cain never died. He's back, and is one of the stars of New Excalibur. Sammy the Squidboy is Chuck Austen's character, so I doubt that he'll ever come back. Same with Carter and Annie, they are gone and long forgotten by now.


Okay a few things. When has cain ever been alive anywhere as a character. I personally preferred him as a villian. Not the whimpy shell of man he is now.
If Carter and Annie are gone, why is carter in Xmen the End do tell please. Sammy the Squid boy I asked to come back so they can kill him again i dont like him.

[DDM]

The team roster is not the problem, it's the bland writing and art team.

...and comatose editors...

[DavidQ!]

Lol DDM


lalalalala dididi bogga ooga ooga.

[Beast]

Okay a few things. When has cain ever been alive anywhere as a character. I personally preferred him as a villian. Not the whimpy shell of man he is now.
If Carter and Annie are gone, why is carter in Xmen the End do tell please. Sammy the Squid boy I asked to come back so they can kill him again i dont like him.
Cain has had more character as a hero, than he ever did as a villain. I think it was one of the few things that Austen has really done well. So I'm happy to see Marvel wants him to continue being a heroic character. As for where he's been, he came back in Uncanny X-Men #460 with Nocturne. And is also in the HoM issues of Uncanny. And is in New Excalibur just afterwards.

X-Men: The End was written before Chuck Austen left X-Men and Marvel. So Claremont had already included both characters in his 'The End' story. Since it's not canon and only a 'possible future' their appearance doesn't matter. And considering that possible future is around 15 years away, circumstances can occur that make it fit. Though we know that it likely won't.

[DavidQ!]

still didnt answer my question though.

[DavidQ!]

Cain is all wanty and needy now. He cried like a baby over the squidboy. Is it just me or was he always that way, because of his father. Damn I want the villian back.

[streator]

i say keep havok, polaris, gambit, and iceman.
dump rogue.
have emma making less appearances.
bring back warren.
add a character that hasn't been seen in a while, like say warlock. or maybe cecilia reyes.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Resurrect Cain? Cain never died. He's back, and is one of the stars of New Excalibur. Sammy the Squidboy is Chuck Austen's character, so I doubt that he'll ever come back. Same with Carter and Annie, they are gone and long forgotten by now.


Austen left that plot open with Carter and whoever was speaking to him. I can see Chuck returning down the road using Carter and Annie in a way.


Plus Cain works better as a hero at this point. He's went as far as he could as someone who took ass kickings from the X-Men each month.

[JolieBrunette]

I actually like the roster as it is.

Gambit and Rogue need to stay together. Having them break up AGAIN would just be an excuse to do nothing about the relationship until such a time as the whining of the fans becomes so annoying that Marvel puts them back together again. They're a popular couple. 95% of the stories on FF.net feature them. I know that's not a great recommendation, because 95% of those stories are crap, but still . . .

So, have them deal with their issues, move the relationship forward, keep them together.

I also like Iceman there, but then I have a perverse love of bad puns and stupid jokes. I think they could do more with his and Rogue's friendship, which we haven't seen for a while. It would also break up the current angsty love-triangle, angsty couple dynamic that the book has going.

I'm interested to see what Milligan is doing with Polaris. I couldn't stand her under Austen when she seemed a small step away from being psychotic most of the time, but Milligan's got me intrigued.

Havok is the character I'm least interested in, but he provides an interesting enough contrast in terms of leadership styles to Storm and Cyclops to make me want him to stay.

So, if I were to make any changes, they'd be additive, rather than subtractive. I'd like to see Storm on the team for some reason. I've always enjoyed her friendship with Gambit. She also is someone who knows all the characters in one way and other, and could act to unify what seem to be two separate groups at the moment. I'd also like to see Nightcrawler on the team for much the same reason. He's also generally awesome. :D

[The Sword Is Drawn]

The team roster is not the problem, it's the bland writing and art team.

I totally agree. I find Milligan's writing both bland and contrived. He can't write ongoing plot, only self enclosed several part stories.

I used to leve Larocca's art, but this need to make the X-Men look more 'realistic' starting since the first movie came out really takes away everything that was great about his style. Just take a look at his fantastic four, heroes reborn, or Marvel Uk work. It was great.

[Beast]

Austen left that plot open with Carter and whoever was speaking to him. I can see Chuck returning down the road using Carter and Annie in a way.

Plus Cain works better as a hero at this point. He's went as far as he could as someone who took ass kickings from the X-Men each month.
Agreed, if Chuck Austen ever comes back to X-Men Comics, I'm sure he'll delve into that dangling plotline. By the way, it was supposed to be Cassandra Nova speaking to Carter. Which is even more of a clusterfudge, so let's hope it never happens. Same with CA's plans to have Carter be another child of Magneto's. But given Chuck Austen's current postion, I don't see him returning to Marvel or DC anytime soon. He's got his porn comics to do. :)

[Cayman]

Personally, I'd like to have somebody resolve the whole Carter thing.

He'd be a good arch-enemy for Franklin Richards in the future.

Cay

[jarrod]

I think the roster's okay... Logan's a bit pointless but I actually prefer Emma here more than in Astonishing. Drop Logan, bring in a "deprogrammed" Northstar, have Shiro's persona take over Rogue and you'd have a great cast I think.

I think Hank and Betsy would work well with this team too, but they're more needed where they are now.

[Beast]

I don't think Shiro's personality is actually in Rogue's head. I'd have to re-read the issues, but I think Blindspot removed Shiro's actual memories and persona leaving Rogue with just his powers.

[Cayman]

I think the roster's okay... Logan's a bit pointless but I actually prefer Emma here more than in Astonishing.

Me too. Milligan writes a great Emma.

Cay

[jarrod]

I don't think Shiro's personality is actually in Rogue's head. I'd have to re-read the issues, but I think Blindspot removed Shiro's actual memories and persona leaving Rogue with just his powers.
Really? Man, what a waste... Shiro taking over could've led to some real interesting race/gender issues, not to mention how it'd spice up the Rogue/Gambit cycle of boredom. I loved it whenever Carol took over.

[Titan Slade]

not to mention how it'd spice up the Rogue/Gambit cycle of boredom.

There is no way to make their relationship interesting. It should be retconned as if it never exhisted period. It damaged both characters is beyond repair to this point. 2 of the best X-Men, are now 2 of the crappiest because of this dragged out, boring romantic crap.

[Blackcat]

Really? Man, what a waste... Shiro taking over could've led to some real interesting race/gender issues, not to mention how it'd spice up the Rogue/Gambit cycle of boredom. I loved it whenever Carol took over.

If that would happen a lot will think: Seen that, done that. So, I do not agree with this at all. But it won't happen anyway. A bit of his character is in Rogue and she has his powers now. That's it.

[DavidQ!]

oh great superfan how much can kiss butt. brown noser!

[dazzler_slave]

I would actually love to see them scrap the whole team and bring in Moonstar, Warpath, Karma, Siryn, Cannonball, Northstar, Magma and Cecilia Reyes. I think that the old New Mutants need their due as X-Men now. Plus, Cecilia has been missed (on my part), and Northstar has been mishandled enough.

[jarrod]

There is no way to make their relationship interesting. It should be retconned as if it never exhisted period. It damaged both characters is beyond repair to this point. 2 of the best X-Men, are now 2 of the crappiest because of this dragged out, boring romantic crap.
Well, with Shiro in charge there would be no relationship. Hell, he may even resent Gambit. Agnst! Yum! :)


If that would happen a lot will think: Seen that, done that. So, I do not agree with this at all. But it won't happen anyway. A bit of his character is in Rogue and she has his powers now. That's it.
Carol's persona never had any issue with being a caucasian woman though, like Shiro would. This would be pretty new ground for the X-Men in general and Rogue in particular.

Random question, does Blindspot actually remove memories or just suppress them? Is it possible a telepath like Emma or Rachel could help Shiro's persona emerge?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Agreed, if Chuck Austen ever comes back to X-Men Comics, I'm sure he'll delve into that dangling plotline. By the way, it was supposed to be Cassandra Nova speaking to Carter. Which is even more of a clusterfudge, so let's hope it never happens. Same with CA's plans to have Carter be another child of Magneto's. But given Chuck Austen's current postion, I don't see him returning to Marvel or DC anytime soon. He's got his porn comics to do. :)



Austen's busy producing his TV Show at the moment. Plus without him...theres really no sizzle left to the X-Men. Without , Chuck Austen the books became boring as hell. So it was a huge loss the moment Chuck was pulled from the series and his interesting team split apart.


God willing Joe Quesada and Mike Marts brings Chuck back. Please....save this book....

[SUPERECWFAN1]

oh great superfan how much can kiss butt. brown noser!


? I wasn't kissin no ones ass here. I felt Cain Marko was at his best under Chuck Austen as a hero. Not a villain who made appearances and fights. After awhile he got boring wrote that way. Now as a conflicted hero who tries to do good...he's actually a memborable charactor.

[Christopher O]

This is the team I'd like to see:
Havok, Mirage, Polaris, Iceman, Rogue, Northstar and Dr. Reyes with Storm, Cyclops, and Emma as recurring characters.

Mirage, Cecilia, and Northstar would add new tension and a fresh dynamic to the team.

I'd love to see issues of leadership come up between Havok and Mirage and be intesified by the added pressure of the top dogs (Storm, Cyclops, Emma).

[DavidQ!]

yeah sure I just read your post before this.

[Valmore]

I like the current team okay, it's just the bad writing in the last story arc that's made me unhappy.

Let Gambit and Rogue be fun and flirty again. With everyone. Gambit should be making passes at Polaris to rile up both the Iceman and Havok while Rogue should be flirting with those. Mystique would have been fun, too.

I'd add Storm, since her and Gambit are always fun to have together, when written correctly. Maybe toss in Cylops to get the sibling rivalry thing going.

Maybe this - Storm, Gambit, Iceman, Polaris, Havok, Rogue and Cyclops. With Emma Frost appearing here and there.

[JolieBrunette]

There is no way to make their relationship interesting. It should be retconned as if it never exhisted period. It damaged both characters is beyond repair to this point. 2 of the best X-Men, are now 2 of the crappiest because of this dragged out, boring romantic crap.

*le sigh* The relationship hasn't damaged the characters irreparably. I submit as evidence the recent Gambit ongoing series, which had Gambit written very much as he was during the Jim Lee years. The same goes for X-Treme's and X-Men: The End's Rogue, who is very much the tough, feisty, capable chick that people remember from Claremont's first run. Similarly, the older Gambit ongoing series (which had Rogue as a guest-star in quite a few issues) managed to write both characters very compellingly up until issue #16, where the whole series deteriorated.

In all those cases, they were in the relationship and were, y'know, not that different to they were in what everyone persists in thinking of as their glory days. :P

I've said this before and I'll say it again. The endless relationship angst should be placed squarely on the heads of writers who use it as a shortcut for proper characterisation and proper exploration of a romance. It could be fixed in about an *issue* if they had the will.

God willing Joe Quesada and Mike Marts brings Chuck back. Please....save this book....

Three words for you, babe. Exploding communion wafers.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Three words for you, babe. Exploding communion wafers.


I have 4:

" Golgotha & Bizzarro Love Triangle "

[dazzler_slave]

God willing Joe Quesada and Mike Marts brings Chuck back. Please....save this book....


You don't really want Chuck back do you? "Shudder" Replacing Milligan with Austen is like cleaning cat puke off the carpet using dogshit as a cleaner.