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Emerald Ghost
08-27-2005, 03:44 PM
Unfortunately I wasn't able to get this due to a retailer error. (He didn't order enough *cries*)

Can someone fill me in on if it was good or not? Thanks.

The Adventurer
08-27-2005, 05:28 PM
It comes out next week.

Emerald Ghost
08-27-2005, 05:29 PM
It comes out next week.

Okay, I really need a new retailer.

Emerald Ghost
09-12-2005, 04:23 PM
Ah hah! Finally got it thanks to the guys at MailOrderComics.com. Yay! :)

Okay, now this is a good issue. The problems I had before (one panel scenes that don't evoke action, slowness of story) seem to be all but gone. The First Family story took enough time that we could actually see a bit of the details (which I like). The story of the brothers is also very fun.

One question...why did Silver Agent dissapear from his cell for a short amount of time? How wierd. Any guesses?

Best quote of the book was when the verdict is read aloud, and his lawyer says something about an appeal. The Silver Agent just shakes his head. No appeal. Wow. That just makes it that much sadder. He really did step up to the plate.

Brady
09-12-2005, 07:01 PM
One question...why did Silver Agent dissapear from his cell for a short amount of time? How wierd. Any guesses?

A few ideas, but I have no idea if any are correct.

1. The Silver Agent busted out, intending to escape. He then thought about it, decided he couldn't go through with it, put on his costume and returned to his cell.

2. The Silver Agent busted out solely to get his costume. He wants to die 'in uniform'.

3. Someone else busted SA out. He insisted they return him to his cell (cuz he's a true hero and all). He put on his costume for reasons stated above.

4. The real SA busted out. The SA that re-appeared in costume minutes later isn't the real SA.

5. Something else entirely happened and I'm not even close ;)

Paragon Kobold
09-14-2005, 07:07 AM
5. Something else entirely happened and I'm not even close ;)


Some Cosmic Entity summoned heroes from across the universe to assist in defending
a peaceful planet from the evil Planet Destroyers. After the battle they were all
returned to the time and place they had come from.

Emerald Ghost
09-14-2005, 03:41 PM
Some Cosmic Entity summoned heroes from across the universe to assist in defending
a peaceful planet from the evil Planet Destroyers. After the battle they were all returned to the time and place they had come from.

Where did you find that out at? Wow.

Paragon Kobold
09-14-2005, 03:50 PM
Where did you find that out at? Wow.

I made it up. ;)

Emerald Ghost
09-14-2005, 05:25 PM
I made it up. ;)

Ah! Cool. Just wondering. lol

Matt Algren
09-23-2005, 10:58 PM
Some Cosmic Entity summoned heroes from across the universe to assist in defending
a peaceful planet from the evil Planet Destroyers. After the battle they were all
returned to the time and place they had come from.
Just got the book today (well, looking at the time, yesterday). I had the same reaction. I hope Kurt leaves it at that and doesn't explain it. Kinda like in "Nearness of You" we found out that there was a Crisis-type event, but only saw maybe half a page. I'd rather he left it up in the air. Like he's said before, we know those stories, and AC isn't here to retell them.

Come to think of it, though, I bet SA went to help in said Crisis-type event.

Sir Tim Drake
10-14-2005, 09:24 PM
Probably what happened is that some other superheroes, or other friendly parties, teleported the Silver Agent out of his cell so he could escape. He told them that he had been convicted legally, and that he didn't want to disobey the law even if he personally felt it was unjust. Therefore, the Silver Agent made the same choice that Socrates made in a similar situation (see Plato's "Crito") and chose to face execution. He politely asked his rescuers to teleport him back to his cell, which they reluctantly did.

I can't explain why he had his costume on when he reappeared, though.

I think the Silver Agent will be executed, and after his execution, new evidence will come out that vindicates him. Perhaps it will be the government's fault that the evidence was lost or concealed, hence "To Our Eternal Shame."

InfoBroker
10-17-2005, 10:01 PM
Probably what happened is that some other superheroes, or other friendly parties, teleported the Silver Agent out of his cell so he could escape. He told them that he had been convicted legally...

but...

but...

The Silver Agent's hand-gun only fires smoke bombs, not lethal bullets. So I'm not convinced that was SA pulling the trigger in Paris.

I think SA is counting on the system to vindicate him. I also think we are talking doppelgangers here, given the way Vince got Richie Forgione off scot free using that particular angle. Couple that with the references to Silver Agent throughout the trail narration sections of Local Heroes #4 and #5 intensifies my suspisions.

But I'm nervously wondering who is going to be executed. The dopple or the real SA?

-jb the teeth-biting ib-

Brady
10-18-2005, 07:37 PM
What truly puzzles me is why the SA statue says 'To Our Eternal Shame'. The inscription seems to imply some sort of shared public guilt over SA's death, but from what we've seen there shouldn't be any such guilt (IMO anyway). Sure some of the public turned on him, but some continued to support him as well. And even those that condemned him are justified - sure the SA is likely innocent but it seems to me that the trial couldn't result in anything other than a guilty verdict. All the evidence pointed to SA as the perpetrator.

So while I understand many woulkd regret SA's wrongful execution, I don't understand why it is to their 'shame'.

The Adventurer
10-18-2005, 08:01 PM
Clearly we don't know the whole story yet.

But more then likely Siver Agent is completely innocent, and people cry for superhero Blood due to the air of the Era, get him killed.

Expletive Deleted
10-19-2005, 04:40 PM
But more then likely Siver Agent is completely innocent, and people cry for superhero Blood due to the air of the Era, get him killed.Yeah, pretty much.

Brady
10-19-2005, 07:46 PM
Some people were crying for his blood, yeah, but plenty were defending him as well. Obviously the Agent is innocent, and his death by execution is hugely tragic and regrettable to the people of Astro City, but its not like they were the ones who framed him. I understand people being sad about his wrongful death, but 'shame' implies some sort of shared public guilt.

Sekhemket
10-20-2005, 05:26 AM
What truly puzzles me is why the SA statue says 'To Our Eternal Shame'. The inscription seems to imply some sort of shared public guilt over SA's death, but from what we've seen there shouldn't be any such guilt (IMO anyway). Sure some of the public turned on him, but some continued to support him as well. And even those that condemned him are justified - sure the SA is likely innocent but it seems to me that the trial couldn't result in anything other than a guilty verdict. All the evidence pointed to SA as the perpetrator.

So while I understand many woulkd regret SA's wrongful execution, I don't understand why it is to their 'shame'.

After reading #4 it makes more sense about why the statue has that tag line. It has more to do with what he will do for them in the future that occurs after his execution. I bet a lot of it is similar to what happened during the Confessions storyline and the alien invaders, which after all that was done people felt ashamed of how they reacted to the heroes.

Brady
10-20-2005, 08:08 PM
#4 is out? Cool:)

Sir Tim Drake
10-27-2005, 02:51 PM
Does anyone else understand how the Silver Agent was teleported out of his cell into the future? Did the First Family do it?

Charles RB
10-27-2005, 05:27 PM
I also think we are talking doppelgangers here

I think it's something to do with the Sterling Foundation. We already know they could capture and mind-control Starfighter, so why not Silver Agent?

Matt Algren
10-31-2005, 03:41 PM
Does anyone else understand how the Silver Agent was teleported out of his cell into the future? Did the First Family do it?
That's what I took from it.