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Emerald Ghost
08-27-2005, 11:23 AM
She's been offed, what, twice now? SPOILERS for those who for some ungodly reason are an x-fan but don't know how Phoenix died...

First she died on the moon in the ever important, Dark P. Saga. And the last time was against Magneto.

The challenge to you is, how would you do it? You are writing the only X-book at the time, and editorial comes to you and tells you to kill off Jean.

How would you do it to make a good story, and yet this being the third time, how do you make it unique and original?

Flight
08-27-2005, 11:29 AM
Something amusing like getting her hand stuck in a blender and dying from shock.
Doesn't even need a 6 issue arc. Just one random page will do.
It would surprise fans and be the talking point of comic books for years...

Beast
08-27-2005, 11:50 AM
Jean's technically only died once, thanks to retcons. Well, once that counts. I don't count all that nonsense in Phoenix: Endsong. Anyway, death is overdone and overrated. I'd say go with Claremont's original idea, of having her stripped of her powers for a few years. Worked for Storm. :D

Cayman
08-27-2005, 12:04 PM
Proteus possesses and discards her body.

Cay

Brian M.
08-27-2005, 12:13 PM
Her and Cyclops die in battle. Put Apocalypse there, Sinister, say maybe Cable. Have Rachael looking on. Something like that. I'm too hungover right now to come up with a good one.

Keith_Martineau
08-27-2005, 12:20 PM
In the hallway with the socket wrench.

Oh, and the butler will do it.

atoningunifex
08-27-2005, 12:45 PM
I'd ahve Jean continue to evolve spiritually and intellectually until she jsut chose to give up having a body or maintaining a life oN earth. She'd just drift away to contemplate things that we mere mortals couldn't comprehend. And never come back.

Quarterwolf
08-27-2005, 12:50 PM
I would make Jean become half of the Phoenix Force and in a attempt to keep it from eating the planet Jean turns it on it/herself and devours her/itself in a never ending loop of Life and Death.

Thus freeing us of Jean coming back and Phoenix coming back.

Maybe have Infinity watching over it to make sure the cycle never gets unbroken.

Maybe give the book a Foil enhanced 3d cover of the Phoenix where if you look at it directily you see the Phoenix Force coming at you but if you turn it is shows the Phoenix Force devouring itself.

AnthonyJ
08-27-2005, 12:51 PM
Well, in order to kill of Jean, she needs to be alive. Leaving her dead accomplishes the goal nicely.

Cayman
08-27-2005, 12:52 PM
Maybe an OMAC robot could kill her.

Cay

atoningunifex
08-27-2005, 03:15 PM
Maybe an OMAC robot could kill her.

Cay

Well, anything can kill her. Can an OMAC robot stop her form coming back is the question.....

Cayman
08-27-2005, 03:19 PM
Well, anything can kill her. Can an OMAC robot stop her form coming back is the question.....

Batman would program it to make it so she couldn't come back.

Cay

fishtaco
08-27-2005, 04:29 PM
Something amusing like getting her hand stuck in a blender and dying from shock.
Doesn't even need a 6 issue arc. Just one random page will do.
It would surprise fans and be the talking point of comic books for years...haha. Reminds me of killing off Kenny in South Park.

jeangreydp
08-27-2005, 04:49 PM
The challenge to you is, how would you do it? You are writing the only X-book at the time, and editorial comes to you and tells you to kill off Jean.

The unique thing I would to, is turn on the editor. I'd choke him to death with his own tie, quietly in my cubicle.

Then, roll him up in a carpet and throw him off a bridge.

LIVE JEAN LIVE!!!!

Emerald Ghost
08-27-2005, 04:53 PM
The unique thing I would to, is turn on the editor. I'd choke him to death with his own tie, quietly in my cubicle.

Then, roll him up in a carpet and throw him off a bridge.

LIVE JEAN LIVE!!!!

What a horrid suggestion. I'm shocked you would even say this.

You have no alibi; it'd be best to wait until you can pay someone to say you were elsewhere.

jcp011c
08-27-2005, 06:02 PM
I'd kill off Northstar again, and when I got the smack down, I'd reply by saying "Oh JEAN. I thought you said JEAN-PAUL!"

Seriously, does Marvel have something against this name in any and all incarnations?

xakko
08-27-2005, 06:06 PM
I'd kill off Northstar again, and when I got the smack down, I'd reply by saying "Oh JEAN. I thought you said JEAN-PAUL!"

Seriously, does Marvel have something against this name in any and all incarnations?

you stole my joke, only I was going to off Emma.

Emerald Ghost
08-27-2005, 06:08 PM
you stole my joke, only I was going to off Emma.

You're in luck, we're having a two for one sale this week.

Henry T.
08-27-2005, 06:34 PM
I'd do a story where Jean gets depressed and starts killing herself, repeatedly. It would start out being a way to cope with the stresses that she had gone through and the realization of who she is and what she has to do. However it would progress from obsessive compulsion into masochism. She'd be doing it for a sort of pleasure. Perhaps it could stem from that page in Endsong 3 where Logan repeatedly kills Jean. It would be her dark secret.

It'd be like those depressed teenagers who cut themselves. :D

Emerald Ghost
08-27-2005, 06:35 PM
I'd do a story where Jean gets depressed and starts killing herself, repeatedly. It would start out being a way to cope with the stresses that she had gone through and the realization of who she is and what she has to do. However it would progress from obsessive compulsion into masochism. She'd be doing it for a sort of pleasure. Perhaps it could stem from that page in Endsong 3 where Logan repeatedly kills Jean. It would be her dark secret.

It'd be like those depressed teenagers who cut themselves. :D

Or we could just have her go nuts, kill off a bunch of Avengers, and then warp the world into a better world for mutants.

Oh, wait... :D

Bart Simpson
08-27-2005, 06:40 PM
What a horrid suggestion. I'm shocked you would even say this.

You have no alibi; it'd be best to wait until you can pay someone to say you were elsewhere.

I'd be her alibi. jdp and I were out drinking that night. :D

xakko
08-27-2005, 06:51 PM
I'd be her alibi. jdp and I were out drinking that night. :D
I distinctly remember seeing them. I bought them both a drink, and we toasted how happy we were that Jean was alive again and how wonderful she is as a character.

DDM
08-27-2005, 07:00 PM
I'd have Scott walk in on Jean as she is having an affair with Phoenix. Scott would ask to join in on the fun, but Phoenix would be pissed & turn into Madelyne Pryor as the Goblin Queen. Scott would then go the Danger Room & alert the X-Men that Dark Phoenix has returned. Storm would remind Cyclops that this story has already happened as of Uncanny X-Men #174-175 then not taken him seriously.

Jean would appear as Phoenix & the Goblin Queen simultaneously. Emma Frost would be prying on Storm's thoughts via Cerebra--amplifying the White Queen's telepathy.

Storm suggests to Phoenix & the Goblin Queen for a "Girls Night Out." The Goblin Queen agrees since she's bored with the idea of transforming the world into a Demon Night. Phoenix looks at Maddy & agrees because, well, the Goblin Queen is Jean.

Scott plays the Black King in the Hellfire Club simulcram in the Danger Room with Phoenix as the Black Queen in a sexual game of chess.

The End.

Rachel Grey
08-28-2005, 12:05 AM
I distinctly remember seeing them. I bought them both a drink, and we toasted how happy we were that Jean was alive again and how wonderful she is as a character.

I'd note that the editor was hanging around some shady characters and then speculate that it was some kind of mob hit that our dear Liz could never be involved in :D

Alpha to Omega
08-28-2005, 12:35 AM
I'd have the Blob's fat eat her after she's knocked into it :D.

psycholinguist
08-28-2005, 08:11 AM
Have Emma Frost break Jean's neck like she did to Cassandra Nova. Then burn her body and flush the ashes down the toilet.

TheWolfOfAsgard
08-28-2005, 09:59 AM
Is there an original way left to do this???

Emerald Ghost
08-28-2005, 12:55 PM
Is there an original way left to do this???

If you're a talented writer, you can make a good story out of just about anything. The worst concepts have become golden under the right direction.

I imagine there's a beautiful story out there somewhere...perhaps someone will post it soon. Who knows?

TheWolfOfAsgard
08-29-2005, 04:33 AM
If you're a talented writer, you can make a good story out of just about anything. The worst concepts have become golden under the right direction.

I imagine there's a beautiful story out there somewhere...perhaps someone will post it soon. Who knows?

Dammit when someone shines the cold light of logic on one of my lame ass jokes....:p

Emerald Ghost
08-29-2005, 04:54 AM
Dammit when someone shines the cold light of logic on one of my lame ass jokes....:p

LOL, sorry. :P

How about this for an original story.

The world is under a spell that brings fables and legends to life. Each X-man is trapped in a certain fairy tale. Kitty is in Cinderella. Colossus is in Kitty's Fairy Tale (remember that? :) ). Phoenix is in the old egyptian legend of the firey bird. Etc, and you can pair X-men up in some cases.

The world is set to right eventually by Phoenix, but she's trapped forever as a legend. No one remembers her except as legend; it's changed from the firey bird, to the flaming woman who sacrifices herself for others, and is reborn.

TheWolfOfAsgard
08-29-2005, 05:17 AM
LOL, sorry. :P

How about this for an original story.

The world is under a spell that brings fables and legends to life. Each X-man is trapped in a certain fairy tale. Kitty is in Cinderella. Colossus is in Kitty's Fairy Tale (remember that? :) ). Phoenix is in the old egyptian legend of the firey bird. Etc, and you can pair X-men up in some cases.

The world is set to right eventually by Phoenix, but she's trapped forever as a legend. No one remembers her except as legend; it's changed from the firey bird, to the flaming woman who sacrifices herself for others, and is reborn.


Storm is married to Thor and Loki is fooling around with Mystique(hey they both like mischief). Scot is in The Odyssey. Havok, Lorna and Bobby are playing out an even more twisted version of Odiepus.

atoningunifex
08-29-2005, 05:18 AM
Shouldn't Havok, Scott and Corsair be in the more twisted version of Oedipus?

TheWolfOfAsgard
08-29-2005, 05:19 AM
Shouldn't Havok, Scott and Corsair be in the more twisted version of Oedipus?


Oh yeah....It's early. Not enough coffee yet.

TheWolfOfAsgard
08-29-2005, 05:21 AM
But honestly if you want to kill off Jean Grey then you gotta get rid of the Phoenix first. Well assuming you want to kill her and her stay dead. Can't let her keep something that is known for being able to to be reborn.

And damn, I thought I was the only one bloodthirsty enough to want to be killing people off.

atoningunifex
08-29-2005, 05:50 AM
Well, you can still kill jean even with the Phoenix. But what you have to kill is her essence- that unique bit that makes her Jean. Destruction of her persopnality, memories, thoughts, emotions., etc.

If you did that then the Phoenix Force would jsut be ressurecting a body over and over.

TheWolfOfAsgard
08-29-2005, 05:52 AM
Well, you can still kill jean even with the Phoenix. But what you have to kill is her essence- that unique bit that makes her Jean. Destruction of her persopnality, memories, thoughts, emotions., etc.

If you did that then the Phoenix Force would jsut be ressurecting a body over and over.


So literate. So brillant. Take me now!

ReaderX
08-29-2005, 09:25 AM
Have Forge invent an energy syphon that could channel an infinite amount of energy, then strap it to Jean. Spontaneously, the moment that this happens, a random world planted by a celestial seed is destroyed, as this energy is distributed across the universe. That way, Jean will be filling the role of Galactus, unknowingly of course. Forge would have to install a failsafe so that their own world wouldn't be randomly destroyed from distribution of the Phoenix's energy.

Altercator
09-05-2005, 05:50 PM
Or we can just use the Spork. It is the greatest weapon ever created in which you can just dig your heart for just 99c and can be bought at WoolsWorth....

The Pizza Man
09-05-2005, 07:10 PM
Tell her Deadpool looks better in her outfits then she does. Shed kill herself in shame.

Neolucifer
09-05-2005, 07:36 PM
Is there an original way left to do this???

Yes , and a quite original one ... by killing her once and for all :D

jeangreydp
09-05-2005, 11:08 PM
How about she kills you guys for talking trash?

:p

Frank
09-07-2005, 04:48 PM
Have The Sentry eat her.

Taltos
09-07-2005, 04:50 PM
She's been offed, what, twice now? SPOILERS for those who for some ungodly reason are an x-fan but don't know how Phoenix died...

First she died on the moon in the ever important, Dark P. Saga. And the last time was against Magneto.

The challenge to you is, how would you do it? You are writing the only X-book at the time, and editorial comes to you and tells you to kill off Jean.

How would you do it to make a good story, and yet this being the third time, how do you make it unique and original?
Id have Xavier kill her. Either Xavier goes crazy or she does.

Frank
09-07-2005, 04:55 PM
Id have Xavier kill her. Either Xavier goes crazy or she does.

Xavier could come up with his own extreme evolution manifestation(a la Phoenix) and kill Phoenix/Jean with it.

Emerald Ghost
09-07-2005, 05:07 PM
Xavier could come up with his own extreme evolution manifestation(a la Phoenix) and kill Phoenix/Jean with it.

His ultimate "manifestation" combined with what he drew from Magneto to form Onslaught. Is that kind of what you mean?

TheWolfOfAsgard
09-08-2005, 08:36 AM
In the hallway with the socket wrench.

Oh, and the butler will do it.


What is she at the Avengers mansion and Jarvis gets po'ed that's she more of a diva than him? Oh wait that would be the Ultimate Jarvis.

TheWolfOfAsgard
09-08-2005, 08:37 AM
Have the Uni force merge with her and beat her into submission.

TinMan
09-08-2005, 08:55 AM
Jean comes back to Earth after pulling all her pieces together in the white hot room. She and Scott go out for a few beers together and talk about everything that has happened between them and also occured while she has been gone. After a long night of drinking, they head to the store and get another case of beer to take back to Xavier's, then proceed to finish that case by 8 o'clock in the morning when they decide to go for a drunken walk in the early morning sun. While walking the edge of the property they notice the grounds keeper ahead of them, he's clearing out a tree limb that had broken off one of the old trees. As they get up to him the idiot grounds keeper throws a chunk of tree limb in front of Jean's feet having not noticed them approaching. Jean suddenly trips and being in her drunken state falls into the wood chipper the grounds keeper was using to dispose of the downed tree limb. As Jean's now limp corpse continues to get sucked into the whirling blades of death Scott mutters, "F@#$, didn't see that one comin... well, Emma's asleep in the house, may as well go give her the 'tap'... Adios Hose', take care of that mess would ya" to which the grounds keeper reply's "Sie Senior".

Deadpool_Disassembled
09-08-2005, 12:16 PM
Either Have Beast do it "oh come on, wasn't everyone else thinking of the same" by shredding her and putting her in the x-Men's cereal boxes....

or simply....make Bendis write for her own comic...