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Dark Soul # 7
08-26-2005, 01:53 PM
Don´t know if he´s lost it or not because I´ve fallen out of touch with the mutant part of Marvel.
Anyway. Can the techno-organic virus be affected by persons with magnetic powers, like Polaris or Magneto?
Flight
08-26-2005, 01:54 PM
Hmm, I wonder who you've got next in your Crossover League battle...
Gaveedra 6
08-26-2005, 01:55 PM
Don´t know if he´s lost it or not because I´ve fallen out of touch with the mutant part of Marvel.
Anyway. Can the techno-organic virus be affected by persons with magnetic powers, like Polaris or Magneto?
I believe so. Cable hasn't had much face time against Po or Mags, but Magneto used to be able to fling Warlock around.
The Pizza Man
08-26-2005, 02:18 PM
Pretty sure Cable got his ass handed to him in X-Force 25 when he took on Magneto as part of fatal attractions. Magneto really tore his techno-organic parts up.
Dark Soul # 7
08-26-2005, 02:32 PM
Thank you for the responses.
Hmm, I wonder who you've got next in your Crossover League battle...I´m just doing my research here. ;)
Why is the technorganic virus considered so evil in the first place? As far as I can tell, Warlock and company can still feel emotion, sensation, and such and retain their identities. Basically all it seems to do is make you silver and immortal . . .
ocelotrevs
08-26-2005, 02:39 PM
Why is the technorganic virus considered so evil in the first place? As far as I can tell, Warlock and company can still feel emotion, sensation, and such and retain their identities. Basically all it seems to do is make you silver and immortal . . .
Because it's a virus that was designed too kill Cable, he had too be sent too the future where they did stuff too him so it could be held back.
But the main problem is, is that the virus form can lash out and take over things, and that's the main problem. Although on a few occasions it has helped Cable, and gives him I-R vision, and enhanced strength in the T-O arm
Sharcque
08-26-2005, 02:41 PM
In Fatal Attractions, Magneto thrashed Cable pretty badly, so I'd say yes...
Selene, the Black Queen, attempted to absorb Cable's lifeforce, but his connection to the techno-organic virus "tainted" Cable's lifeforce to the point Selene rejected him. Ironically, in this case, Cable's techno-organic virus saved him from being killed by Selene.
Dizzy D
08-26-2005, 04:00 PM
Why is the technorganic virus considered so evil in the first place? As far as I can tell, Warlock and company can still feel emotion, sensation, and such and retain their identities. Basically all it seems to do is make you silver and immortal . . .
Different virus. Cable's was based on Apocalypse T.O.-virus. Now recently he has merged with a Phalanx/Technarch baby so he now has the same virus as Warlock/Magus, but before it was an adapted virus specifically designed to kill him.
And Warlock warned Doug that the T.O.-virus would affect his personality if he ever would get infected, Warlock and Magus were born techno-organic beings and S'ym and N'Astirh were demons so they may be magically protected from the mental side-effects of the virus. The whole Phalanx were mentally affected though and no longer thought and acted like humans.
fishtaco
08-26-2005, 04:39 PM
Why is the technorganic virus considered so evil in the first place? As far as I can tell, Warlock and company can still feel emotion, sensation, and such and retain their identities. Basically all it seems to do is make you silver and immortal . . .Youre mixing the T-O virus (What Cable had) with the Transmode Virus (what Warlock and Magus had). They are two different viruses. As for the T-O, read X-Factor 68. Apocalypse infected baby Nathan Summers with the T-O virus to kill him after he learned that the baby is Sinister's trump card in his goal to kill Apocalypse. Selene, the Black Queen, attempted to absorb Cable's lifeforce, but his connection to the techno-organic virus "tainted" Cable's lifeforce to the point Selene rejected him. Ironically, in this case, Cable's techno-organic virus saved him from being killed by Selene.X-Force 54, right?
Zero Hunter
08-27-2005, 12:26 PM
If I am remembering right wasn't the transmode virus originaly the way the Phalanx would feed off organic beings? I remember Warlock or Magus using the virus to transform organic matterial into technorganic beings and then draining the energy out of them.
Jared_Humpherys
08-27-2005, 03:01 PM
One is linked somewhat to the other, as a Phalanx attempted to absorb Cable due to the t-o virus in the Wolverine crossover issue(number escapes me at the moment). The line was something to the effect of: "You have a techno-organic virus in your system, halfway to becoming one of us, so to speak." The T-O virus is a derivative of the transmode virus, altered and engineered by Sinister, IIRC.
Sanagi
08-28-2005, 03:41 AM
Magneto was able to freeze S'ym in place in a New Mutants issue from way back.
Magneto was able to freeze S'ym in place in a New Mutants issue from way back.
The New Mutants #52
Magneto could have completely destroyed S'ym, yet Magik insisted S'ym was her problem & her responsibility. S'ym, as a techno-organic being, is immune to Magik's Soulsword; therefore, she should have taken Magneto's offer to destroy S'ym. Inferno may not have happened with S'ym dead. S'ym also converted parts of Limbo into techno-organic things like himself--which affected Illyana's magick & Soulsword.
Sean Whitmore
08-28-2005, 06:22 PM
Infecting a baby with a convoluted, futuristic virus seems like a rather unnecessarily-complex plan to kill a baby. If I were Apocalypse, I'da just smooshed him.
But, what do I know, I'm not older than Christ. :D
SEAN
Tobias March
08-28-2005, 06:34 PM
Infecting a baby with a convoluted, futuristic virus seems like a rather unnecessarily-complex plan to kill a baby. If I were Apocalypse, I'da just smooshed him.
But, what do I know, I'm not older than Christ. :D
SEAN
You're reminding me of that episode of South Park where OAP's rise up and take the town. The priest gives a funeral sermon explaining that God lets good people die because he has a finely tuned sense of irony.
Maybe Apocalypse is like that. He probably needs someone like Scott Evil to come round and explain to him how it's done :rolleyes:
Sean Whitmore
08-28-2005, 06:52 PM
Maybe Apocalypse is like that. He probably needs someone like Scott Evil to come round and explain to him how it's done :rolleyes:
Probably just him being all Darwinian again. If the baby got the virus and survived, then he was worthy of living, or something. :)
SEAN
Alpha to Omega
08-28-2005, 07:05 PM
Infecting a baby with a convoluted, futuristic virus seems like a rather unnecessarily-complex plan to kill a baby. If I were Apocalypse, I'da just smooshed him.
But, what do I know, I'm not older than Christ. :D
SEAN
Didn't Baby Nathan have an unbreakable force-field when he was in danger?
fishtaco
08-28-2005, 07:51 PM
Didn't Baby Nathan have an unbreakable force-field when he was in danger?It was a force bubble. Certainly not unbreakable. That was his first power manifestation. He became more powerful (telepathy, telekinesis), but Apocalypse infecting him with the T-O virus slowed it down and seriously crippled his powers. That is why Stryfe is more powerful than he is. He is as powerful as what Cable would have been if he didn't have the T-O virus. :)
ocelotrevs
08-28-2005, 07:54 PM
...Stryfe is more powerful than he is. He is as powerful as what Cable would have been if he didn't have the T-O virus. :)
That's not true though is it. Stryfe had too ask Gambit and Bishop (of all people) for help too stop Cable from killing him. That's when Cable's T-O was in full swing.
Sean Whitmore
08-28-2005, 08:06 PM
That's not true though is it. Stryfe had too ask Gambit and Bishop (of all people) for help too stop Cable from killing him. That's when Cable's T-O was in full swing.
That entire mini series was so godawful and riddled with bad characterization that I wouldn't place too much stock in what it said. :)
SEAN
streator
08-28-2005, 09:08 PM
That entire mini series was so godawful and riddled with bad characterization that I wouldn't place too much stock in what it said. :)
SEAN
agreed.
although i will say that i hope sons of the atom 6 will be the last time stryfe appears/dies in the marvel universe (again). i really did not like stryfe as a character.
Will.S
08-28-2005, 09:57 PM
Probably just him being all Darwinian again. If the baby got the virus and survived, then he was worthy of living, or something. :)
SEAN
That's pretty much a perfect way of looking at it.
It was a force bubble. Certainly not unbreakable. That was his first power manifestation. He became more powerful (telepathy, telekinesis), but Apocalypse infecting him with the T-O virus slowed it down and seriously crippled his powers. That is why Stryfe is more powerful than he is. He is as powerful as what Cable would have been if he didn't have the T-O virus. :)
Cable with full powers can beat the Silver Surfer AND cure Deadpool. Can Stryfe do that? :p
fishtaco
08-29-2005, 05:04 PM
Cable with full powers can beat the Silver Surfer AND cure Deadpool. Can Stryfe do that? :pHe wasnt able to beat Silver Surfur. He got his butt whupped. Cable's powers were amplified to such extreme levels in Cable and Deadpool 5-10 when Deadpool's healing factor mixed into Cable. His powers were cooking with gas. With Cable once again having to use his powers to keep the T-O in check, he is less powerful than Stryfe would be if he was alive.
Dizzy D
08-29-2005, 05:07 PM
He wasnt able to beat Silver Surfur. He got his butt whupped. Cable's powers were amplified to such extreme levels in Cable and Deadpool 5-10 when Deadpool's healing factor mixed into Cable. His powers were cooking with gas. With Cable once again having to use his powers to keep the T-O in check, he is less powerful than Stryfe would be if he was alive.
He isn't using his powers these days to keep the T-O in check, the symbiosis with the Phalanx/Technarch baby is doing the trick for now.
He wasnt able to beat Silver Surfur. He got his butt whupped. Cable's powers were amplified to such extreme levels in Cable and Deadpool 5-10 when Deadpool's healing factor mixed into Cable. His powers were cooking with gas. With Cable once again having to use his powers to keep the T-O in check, he is less powerful than Stryfe would be if he was alive.
I count the board-snapping as a win.
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