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outlander78

08-25-2005, 12:54 PM

I recently picked up The first part of Rucka's Wonder Woman run. I think it's great. Slow - I'd hate to read it at the issue/month rate - but great. Good characters, good villains, interesting plot twists (without the Loeb-esque "huh?" factor) and Greek mythology thrown in for good measure.

Is anyone else reading and enjoying this series?

I'm not about to start buying the monthlies partway through the run, especially since DC has not clearly shown what WW will look like after IC, but I will certainly look for future trades.

Lex

08-25-2005, 01:04 PM

I was really enjoying this book until about a couple months ago. I love Rucka's ideas for Diana, especially all the work he did with her in that first arc and with her book.

Rich L

08-25-2005, 01:06 PM

I've been on the book regularly since Messner-Loebs and Deodato were on it around Zero Hour time. Rucka's run has been great, and he's been lucky to have some great artists.

Not the most rewarding read on a monthly basis, but excellent when read in big chunks. Highly recommended!

pureclint

08-25-2005, 03:11 PM

I have been reading it since Rucka started as the writer. Initially it was slow but you can see that over time he shifted the book to be a bit faster paced and listened to some ones critcism.

Over all it has been a great great run. With two really epic fights, WW vs Medusa and WW vs Superman.

Lex

08-25-2005, 06:09 PM

I have been reading it since Rucka started as the writer. Initially it was slow but you can see that over time he shifted the book to be a bit faster paced and listened to some ones critcism.

I don't know of criticism effected anything. From the beginning he said that the action would increase as his run went along. He probably plotted it out that way before he even heard any criticism.

SUPERECWFAN1

08-25-2005, 06:14 PM

He started it off slow to lay the groundwork and lets just say...his run has been freakin awesome. I became a fan of WW again due to his work.

Rucka has really left his mark on Wonder Woman and as shown in WW 212# , she's a Warrior !

Windbreaker

08-25-2005, 06:25 PM

I started pulling WW at #219 like a lot of other people. At some point, I'm going to have to take a peak at Rucka's earlier issues.

gketter

08-25-2005, 06:50 PM

heystacy

08-25-2005, 08:08 PM

Wonder Woman did seem to start off slow, but the payoof seems to be worth it. With all this stuff going on, I'm still trying to figure out what's Ares' next move.

Lex

08-25-2005, 08:30 PM

Wonder Woman did seem to start off slow, but the payoof seems to be worth it. With all this stuff going on, I'm still trying to figure out what's Ares' next move.

Me too. I think Rucka is writing Ares very well. Sometimes he plays the villain while other times he plays the hero. He has his own agenda and will do whatever he can to achieve that... including manipulating everyong and everything he can.

Ares is one of the highlights of Rucka's run on Wonder Woman.

DavidQ!

08-27-2005, 02:34 PM

Ruckas wonder woman is okay I mean if I were reading it upside and flaming it for heat and warmth. Oh well. It sort of brings me back to the days of the old wonder woman tv show with the linda carter.

Sean Whitmore

08-27-2005, 04:41 PM

I started pulling WW at #219 like a lot of other people. At some point, I'm going to have to take a peak at Rucka's earlier issues.

"Sacrifice" sucked me in as well, I must admit. Luckily, except for #214 and #219, back issues of Rucka's run haven't been hard to find, or gone up in price. I've managed to scoop up the entire run in a couple weeks for no more than cover price per issue.

SEAN

heystacy

08-28-2005, 02:13 PM

I agree. Ares is the principal villain in the series. I thought for a while he was going to turn Cassie.

The Shadow

08-28-2005, 02:47 PM

Most of you guys are new readers to the series... that's GREAT!

I've been reading Wonder Woman since issue #1 in 1987. There have been some great "UP's" like the Perez stuff, the Deodato stuff and some loooooooooow's... like a lot in between... but the Rucka issues have been among my favorite issues in the 219+ issue series.

The arc did start out slow, but as has been pointed out the groundwork was laid and when the shit hit the fan it was GREAT. All those subtle things sprinkled throughout that seems meaningless payed off BIG TIME. IMO WW is one of the best DC books on the stands (along with Birds of Prey, JSA and Batgirl) and I wouldn't miss it.

The Joker

08-29-2005, 08:53 AM

IMO WW is one of the best DC books on the stands and I wouldn't miss it.

No argument heard here!

I've been reading WW ever since issue #145 (volume 2 mind you), and can say that Rucka's run has been very satisfying for a long time Wonder Woman fan. His writing of her as a warrior that she should be is just great. And his use of Ares in recent issues are very good as well. Crossing him between hero/villian often, which is what Ares, the deceiver, truly is.

Karl J. Barnes

08-29-2005, 10:40 AM

I agree. Ares is the principal villain in the series. I thought for a while he was going to turn Cassie.

He still might do that. His helping Cassie find her real father(Zeus, I wonder how long that will hold true) really threw her for a loop. He could play that angle as her being a Demi-God, part of Olympus and somehow twist that around for his own desires.

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 11:54 AM

He still might do that. His helping Cassie find her real father(Zeus, I wonder how long that will hold true) really threw her for a loop. He could play that angle as her being a Demi-God, part of Olympus and somehow twist that around for his own desires.
He is an evil bastard like that!

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 11:56 AM

I've been reading WW ever since issue #145 (volume 2 mind you
Have you tracked down any of the earlier stuff?

The early Perez issues were great (as were the ones he wrote and didn't draw), Deodato and the introduction of Artemis are fun (despite WW wearing a thong), the Byrne issues (while not GREAT are really solid) fix some serious continuity issues... and the Adam Hughes covers alone are worth the price of admission.

outlander78

08-29-2005, 12:29 PM

Could you give me the issue numbers for Perez's run, please?

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 01:08 PM

Could you give me the issue numbers for Perez's run, please?
Perez drew and co-wrote 1-25 and then co-wrote (he wrote the plots and someone else scripted) and did most of the covers until issue 63. There may have been the odd break in there but Perez did a lot for Diana bot artistically and in the writing department.

estee

08-29-2005, 01:22 PM

"Sacrifice" sucked me in as well, I must admit. Luckily, except for #214 and #219, back issues of Rucka's run haven't been hard to find, or gone up in price. I've managed to scoop up the entire run in a couple weeks for no more than cover price per issue.

SEAN

This Rucka WW thing seems to be catching. 219 really whet my appetite. So I bought the first half of his run at a con this weekend. Great stuff. I'm hooked. But yeah, 214 will take some time to get, it was going for $30. Maybe next year after all the hoopla of IC has died down the price will be more reasonable.

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 01:36 PM

214 will take some time to get, it was going for $30.
Get outa here!

outlander78

08-29-2005, 01:46 PM

And here I thought the trend was for after-market price to fall substantially.

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 01:51 PM

And here I thought the trend was for after-market price to fall substantially.
Me too!

I'm shocked! I don't bother with prices on newer issues... I worry about the old stuff when I'm buying it though... THAT can kill ya

The Joker

08-29-2005, 02:13 PM

Have you tracked down any of the earlier stuff?

The early Perez issues were great (as were the ones he wrote and didn't draw), Deodato and the introduction of Artemis are fun (despite WW wearing a thong), the Byrne issues (while not GREAT are really solid) fix some serious continuity issues... and the Adam Hughes covers alone are worth the price of admission.

Yeah, I've got some earlier Wonder Woman issues, but not that many before issue #145 I'm afraid. Although I do have the first issue of the second volume by Perez, as well as some other single digit issue numbers.

If you had to pick, what run would you recommend first? I've heard some various opinions on Byrne's run ....

Oh, and to be honest. Adam Hughes is one of the reasons why I started to pull Wonder Woman into my want list. Yeah I know, dont judge a book by it's cover. But come on! Hughes' Wonder Woman is probably the most beautiful I've ever seen Diana look visually.
Infact, I believe I have every issue with a Adam Hughes cover as far as Wonder Woman is concerned. Read awhile back (last year I believe) on his Yahoo fan club that he was going to start work on a WW mini series. Havent heard much since then unfortunately.

The Joker

08-29-2005, 02:18 PM

But yeah, 214 will take some time to get, it was going for $30. Maybe next year after all the hoopla of IC has died down the price will be more reasonable.

Wow! Yeah, I agree that you should wait on that issue until all the IC minis have settled down. Unless you just get in the "I got to have it now!" mood. But thats quite a bit more coin than I thought it was fetching these days.

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 02:22 PM

If you had to pick, what run would you recommend first? I've heard some various opinions on Byrne's run ....
Perez's early stuff is the best IMO (though Rucka's is great too). Perez infused the mythology that is still there right from the start.

The William Messer-Loeb's stuff that followed Perez suffered mainly from lack of a decent artist. Until Deodato came on at issue 87 there was 20+ issues with forgettable art... though at that time Brian Bolland was doing the covers so they're worth checking out too! The stories were fun, but he departed from the mythology and made it a more traditional superhero book.

Byrne's run (I haven't read it in a long while and my comics are 3000 miles away) answered some questions on how WW could have been a JSA member when (according to Crisis) she didn't appear until she joined the JLA. He also answered some Donna Troy questions and introduced the current Wonder Girl (I believe). The stories were great, but IMO the art wasn't Byrne's best and I think the expectations were quite high (I know mine were) and I didn't like his run until I re-read it a while later... and THEN I appreciated it for what he had done. Bolland quit doing the covers when Byrne came on and was doing his own covers.

Yannick Paquette did some great art on WW after Byrne, but his suffered from bad writing... Match Loeb up with Paquette and you would have had 1 GREAT run instead of 2 alright runs.

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 02:25 PM

I believe I have every issue with a Adam Hughes cover as far as Wonder Woman is concerned.
Hughes' first cover was 139
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96913563818.139.gif

The Joker

08-29-2005, 02:36 PM

Thanks for the very informative answer, Shadow. I'll definately have to check out more of Perez's run.

Hughes' first cover was 139
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96913563818.139.gif

You're right. And thats exactly when I started collecting WW. Here I was thinking it was issue #145? Guess thats what I get for being up all night, and still havent been able to go to bed. I hate being restless since I just know I'll be paying for it tomorrow. ;)

Again, thanks for the info. I'll definately be checking up on some Perez back issues soon, as I've heard nothing but positive comments on his run with Wonder Woman. Thanks! :)

The Joker

08-29-2005, 02:42 PM

I've always been fond of Adam's work on issue #150.

Even have the poster as well. :D

http://www.universohq.com/quadrinhos/images/ww150.jpg

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 02:48 PM

I've always been fond of Adam's work on issue #150.

Even have the poster as well. :D

http://www.universohq.com/quadrinhos/images/ww150.jpg
Yeah 150 is one of my favorites!

I also really like 178 & 189

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96913563818.178.gif
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96913563818.189.gif

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 02:49 PM

With honourable mention going to Phil Noto's cover to 199
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96913563818.199.gif

The Joker

08-29-2005, 02:58 PM

Yeah 150 is one of my favorites!

I also really like 178 & 189

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96913563818.178.gif
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96913563818.189.gif

Yeah, those are pretty great as well!

151 isnt bad either.

http://darkben2.free.fr/images/galeries/images/dc/3/wonderwoman151.jpg

The Joker

08-29-2005, 03:02 PM

My honourable mention would have to go to issue #202.

http://www.dccomics.com/comics/images/March2004/pic_lrgww202cvr.jpg

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 03:10 PM

Again, thanks for the info. I'll definately be checking up on some Perez back issues soon, as I've heard nothing but positive comments on his run with Wonder Woman. Thanks! :)
Hey, no problems!

Let me know if you like it!

You can also likely get a lot of the issues on eBat as a lot for cheap!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wonder-Woman-8-and-9-by-George-Perez-Revised-Cheetah_W0QQitemZ6556473546QQcategoryZ32768QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wonder-Woman-10-14-Challenge-of-the-Gods-George-Perez_W0QQitemZ6556473871QQcategoryZ32768QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/WONDER-WOMAN-21-30-COMPLETE-1988-FN-VFN-PEREZ_W0QQitemZ6554927947QQcategoryZ32768QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/WONDER-WOMAN-31-40-COMPLETE-1989-FN-PEREZ_W0QQitemZ6554927945QQcategoryZ32768QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Those would give you 8-14 and 21-40 for under $15

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 03:12 PM

My honourable mention would have to go to issue #202.

Yeah, I LOVE JG Jones's art! I wish he'd do more interiors!

But if you like his art too check out the Wonder Woman Hiketeia graphic novel. It's great!

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96988406885.1.gif

pureclint

08-29-2005, 03:16 PM

Yeah, I LOVE JG Jones's art! I wish he'd do more interiors!

But if you like his art too check out the Wonder Woman Hiketeia graphic novel. It's great!

I fully second that. Wasn't Hiketeia Rucka's first WW work?

oh and...

HELL YEAH what a COOL ASS cover!

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 03:21 PM

I fully second that. Wasn't Hiketeia Rucka's first WW work?

oh and...

HELL YEAH what a COOL ASS cover!
I'm not sure... I know it came out before he started doing covers... but I don't know if he did pencils of any other book with her in it. But he's a great artist and I bought Wanted on his name alone (and loved it too)

@ pureclint... see... I CAN be agreeable on the DC boards too! LOL :p

pureclint

08-29-2005, 03:43 PM

I'm not sure... I know it came out before he started doing covers... but I don't know if he did pencils of any other book with her in it. But he's a great artist and I bought Wanted on his name alone (and loved it too)

@ pureclint... see... I CAN be agreeable on the DC boards too! LOL :p

Rucka, pencils, covers....Oh Dear, Shadow being agreeable on the DC boards has casued a screw or two to loosen!!! :p

I shall ask again for the kids in the back row:

Am I mistaken but is not Heketia Greg Rucka, the writers, first Wonder woman work?

Of course that could apply to JG Jones as well, who I agree rocked here and on Wanted (outside of the very obvious Hollywood copying, bleh).

Aaron King

08-29-2005, 04:56 PM

estee

08-29-2005, 05:26 PM

My apologies if this has been mentioned, but if you're having trouble finding issue #214, just grab the "Prelude to Infinite Crisis" book that DC recently released. It has #214 and the Flash issue that it crosses over in entirety.

I managed to snag the Flash issue. But I'am a hopeless old-school completist, so I'll have to wait to get WW 214.

SUPERECWFAN1

08-29-2005, 05:32 PM

I must have been damn lucky to snag 214# when it came out months ago. I have no idea its commanding that type of back issue price. Damnnnn....

In all I liked Byrne's run for the fact he made Diana a heavy hitter in Superman's level. I dropped the book at the end with the whole JSA/WW Golden age plot. I did return with 194# to current....

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 05:37 PM

Rucka, pencils, covers....Oh Dear, Shadow being agreeable on the DC boards has casued a screw or two to loosen!!! :p
LOL

I was still going on about JG Jones's art! :D

All this DC agreement has messed me up! :D

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 05:38 PM

I've had WW on my pull list since #4 so I got 214 new... but I'm SHOCKED it's selling for that much though it is a GREAT issue!

estee

08-29-2005, 06:28 PM

Its commanding that much for several reasons...a low print run and being part of IC.

Here is something from Comics Price Guide...

http://www.comicspriceguide.com/p-indiv.asp?whichpage=&comicTableID=378040

Near mint is going for $25.

pureclint

08-29-2005, 07:14 PM

This weeks issue 220 might be a *hot* book as well. It is the Wonder Woman epilogue to Sacrifice and the Hand Cuff Cover.

estee

08-29-2005, 07:26 PM

I don't think so.

DC probably overproduced it and lots of people, including me, put it on their pull list. What happened 214 and 219 came out of left field and that always drives the price up.

Sean Whitmore

08-29-2005, 07:27 PM

This weeks issue 220 might be a *hot* book as well. It is the Wonder Woman epilogue to Sacrifice and the Hand Cuff Cover.

The Wonder Woman Handcuff cover...

Gosh, wonder what demographic THAT issue will sell heavily too. ;)

I'm already wanting a poster.

SEAN

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 08:35 PM

The Shadow

08-29-2005, 08:38 PM

Anyone have an idea on the print run?
Answered myself!

It had a big jump actually!

02/ 2005: Wonder Woman #213 -- 24,728 (- 3.4%)
03/ 2005: Wonder Woman #214 -- 30,473 (+23.2%)
04/ 2005: Wonder Woman #215 -- 28,977 (- 4.9%)

07/ 2005: Wonder Woman #219 -- 53,460 (+55.6%)
219 had a BIG jump with Sacrifice.

Worth every penny!

Got the figures at COMICON (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=004110)

pureclint

08-29-2005, 09:58 PM

I don't think so.

DC probably overproduced it and lots of people, including me, put it on their pull list. What happened 214 and 219 came out of left field and that always drives the price up.

02/ 2005: Wonder Woman #213 -- 24,728 (- 3.4%)
03/ 2005: Wonder Woman #214 -- 30,473 (+23.2%)
04/ 2005: Wonder Woman #215 -- 28,977 (- 4.9%)

07/ 2005: Wonder Woman #219 -- 53,460 (+55.6%)

First, I think it will be around the 219 numbers and I think it could sell out. Then depending on the comic store/internet/fan chatter, we could see a nice little price jump in it.

OMAC #1 had about 2.5 times the print run of 219 and it is selling for 20 or so, now I doubt it will be as hot as a number one of a huge Crisis mini but the smaller print run and the importance of the tale (remember 214 was a nice crossover but not a key part of crisis) could push up the "worth" of the book.

But hey this is all guess work!!!

Thanks for the numbers Shadow glad to see WW is picking up some steam, I hope it keeps most of the 219 shine...

The Joker

08-30-2005, 05:31 AM

Hey, no problems!

Let me know if you like it!

You can also likely get a lot of the issues on eBat as a lot for cheap!

Those would give you 8-14 and 21-40 for under $15

Hey Shadow, man thanks a bunch for taking the time out to post those links! I really appreciate it.

Once again, many thanks.

UniqueFrequency

08-30-2005, 06:07 PM

Wonder Woman did seem to start off slow, but the payoof seems to be worth it. With all this stuff going on, I'm still trying to figure out what's Ares' next move.

I have to agree with this. Some issues are seemingly slow, but Rucka definitely has a grand plan overall that he intend to tie together, which leads to some pretty good reading in the end.

The Shadow

08-30-2005, 10:08 PM

I have to agree with this. Some issues are seemingly slow, but Rucka definitely has a grand plan overall that he intend to tie together, which leads to some pretty good reading in the end.
My only hope is Rucka dropped a few loose threads so he doesn't have to build a new story from scratch again.

People slam Chris Claremont but he was a master at dropping a seemigly useless or random plot point, APPEARING to forget about it, and then have it come back months (and sometimes years) later to bite the X-Men in the ass. Claremont writes comics as they should be... not with trades in mind. I hope Rucka follows that idea.

outlander78

08-31-2005, 06:34 AM

Rucka certainly seems to. I'm very impressed with the way he builds storylines. I just hope that he doesn't drop WW or Superman early, as he seemed to do with Wolverine. (He may not have, but his 19-issue Wolverine run seemed very abortive at the end.)

I wasn't fortunate enough to have read Chris' X-Men run the first time around, but the essential series that collects it lets me catch up on what I was missed. You are right about his plot points, and thanks to collections and editor's notes (I miss those), you don't suffer too much when a four-year-old reference is made.

The Shadow

08-31-2005, 11:38 AM

editor's notes (I miss those), you don't suffer too much when a four-year-old reference is made.
That's because nobody writes like that anymore and writers seem to rarely reference someone elses past work anymore... I miss em too.

artemisboy

08-31-2005, 01:13 PM

The following contains spoilers for issue 220

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Good. I really loved the issue but there's just one thing I didn't get. What I don't understand is why dark, mean, hard-nosed Batman is upset by Diana's no-win situation? It's not like he didn't know her train of thought before.

He was there in Superman's Fortress of Solitude when Diana explained that if a villain will not change his/her coarse of actions through rehabilitation, and continues to cause murder and mayham, she believes you have to put them down as they are no more than savage beasts. This shouldn't be news to him at all.

Interesting outcome for Jonah though. I was really surprised. And I liked that Ferdinand and Leslie are getting along again.

- Peter

outlander78

09-12-2005, 03:17 PM

Some bad news from LITG ... it looks like Wonder Woman is getting a new #1 and a new writer. I hope that Rucka is given time to close out the great story he has going.

pureclint

09-12-2005, 03:21 PM

Official or Rumor?

The Shadow

09-12-2005, 03:25 PM

Some bad news from LITG ... it looks like Wonder Woman is getting a new #1 and a new writer.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOoOOOoOOOOOOoooooOOOo oOOoo

That was mainly for the new #1... I'd be happy with Gail writing!

Skytheen

09-12-2005, 03:29 PM

The Shadow

09-12-2005, 03:31 PM

what happened in #214? I cannot find this issue!
214 was a crossover with The Flash where WW and Flash fought Zoom and Cheetah.

Great issue with a low print run.

The Joker

09-12-2005, 05:02 PM

Some bad news from LITG ... it looks like Wonder Woman is getting a new #1 and a new writer. I hope that Rucka is given time to close out the great story he has going.

Damn.

Well if this is true, thanks for a great run Rucka.

outlander78

09-12-2005, 05:14 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOoOOOoOOOOOOoooooOOOo oOOoo

That was mainly for the new #1... I'd be happy with Gail writing!

So would I. According to LITG, she isn't. Of course, Didio does tend to change his mind each and every week ...

SUPERECWFAN1

09-12-2005, 05:43 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOoOOOoOOOOOOoooooOOOo oOOoo

That was mainly for the new #1... I'd be happy with Gail writing!

You echo my feelings on this . Its crap news. Man 2 good creators leaving 2 series that were great at DC. Rucka and Johns leaving Flash & WW has me depressed. :(

Sean Whitmore

09-12-2005, 06:00 PM

It's a shame, but one has to assume Rucka is choosing to leave, not being ousted. I was horribly disappointed when Mark Waid left Flash years ago, but there comes the time when the writer has said all they want to with a character. And Allan Heinberg has more than earned the benefit of the doubt from me, between Young Avengers and JLA.

All-Star Wonder Woman seems very odd to me, however. First of all, is there really a need? Batman and Superman I can see as benefitting from a series divorced from continuity, but how does Wonder Woman benefit? Except for her mother being dead, does her history really carry any baggage that's worth throwing out?

SEAN

The Joker

09-12-2005, 07:33 PM

All-Star Wonder Woman seems very odd to me, however. First of all, is there really a need? Batman and Superman I can see as benefitting from a series divorced from continuity, but how does Wonder Woman benefit? Except for her mother being dead, does her history really carry any baggage that's worth throwing out?

I can only assume that the idea behind All Star Wonder Woman, is to hopefully bring in new fans that might not otherwise have picked up a Wonder Woman comic. Even if WW ends up getting an all new issue #1, that doesnt necessarily mean that readers who havent read WW will start picking the book up. The All Star name gathers much attention from fans right now, and I can only see this helping DC right now. As well as hopefully gathering more interest for Wonder Woman. Johns, and Hughes being associated with All Star Wonder Woman doesnt hurt either.

DarkCrisis

09-12-2005, 08:31 PM

I love Rucka's Wonder Woman. He made the character interesting. I hope the restart of the comic stays a rumor.

Skytheen

09-12-2005, 08:39 PM

any word on what new title Rucka might be on, then?

Captain Jim

09-12-2005, 08:39 PM

214 was a crossover with The Flash where WW and Flash fought Zoom and Cheetah.

Great issue with a low print run.

Was the print run really any lower than the average issue? I find that hard to believe. More likely, it was comparable but interest was higher.

In any case, the issue is reprinted in its entirity in Prelude to Infinite Crisis (along with the Flash story that goes along with it).

Captain Jim

09-12-2005, 08:41 PM

Allan Heinberg has more than earned the benefit of the doubt from me, between Young Avengers and JLA.

Most definitely! This guy is one awesome writer! This is good news, as far as I'm concerned.

The Shadow

09-12-2005, 10:52 PM

Was the print run really any lower than the average issue? I find that hard to believe. More likely, it was comparable but interest was higher.
No... that's a good point. There was a spike for the Sacrifice issues... but I believe the print run was around 28,000