Ultimate X-Men Annual #1 - Review, Spoilers, & Discussion!!

[Beast]

I was rather impressed and suprised by this issue. I didn't think that an issue that dealt almost totally with just Ult. Gambit, Rogue, and Juggernaut could be this good. But suprise suprise, this one delivered on all counts. The ending was rather shocking as well, as I never expected Marvel to deliver another major comic character death in the Ultimate Universe. I won't say who dies here, you'll have to read on to the mini synopsis for that. All in all it was a good issue, but I don't think it's a wise decision to keep killing off members of the Ultimate X-Men cast. Though if they ever do my idea for Pocy's Horseman being dead characters, now they have four very good choices. And now my quick synopsis, since I don't want to write too much.

The issue kicks off with the X-Men in the Danger Room, facing off against the 'Sinister Five' from Ultimate Spider-Man. As usual quite a lot of bantering occurs with the various members, including a small spat betwene Kitty and Iceman over Rogue. Fury contacts Xavier, to warn him that Juggernaut has escaped from Shield custody. They expect that he's going after Rogue, since she turned state's evidence as part of her deal. Of course Charlie has to inform Fury that Rogue is no longer there, which of course seriously pisses off Fury since she's that was part of the deal that she cut with the goverment.

The scene shifts to Las Vegas, where Rogue and Gambit are stealing the 'Gem of Cyttorak' from a vault owned by the Fenris Twins. It's supposed to be magical, but of course Gambit doesn't buy into the story. It seems Rogue is running with Gambit, to try to make up for all the stuff she did with the brotherhood. Unfortunatly just as they're leaving the premises with the stolen gem, they run into Juggernaut. After a few moments of banter, a fight begins, and it's not long before Gambit's quickly and rudely thrown out of the fight.

Rogue however manages to absorb some of Juggy's powers, pitting unstoppable force against unstoppable force. During the fight Juggy reveals that he tracked her down, because he loves her. He grabs hold of her so she'll absorb some of his memories as well, and she sees that what he says is true. That they both come from 'Trailer Trash' homes, and being with her in Weapon X was the only time he ever felt like a 'Free Man'.

Gambit charges back in and tries to stop Juggy, who's still holding onto Rogue and letting her absorb him. He pulls out the Crimson Gem and charges it up, flinging it at Juggy where it explodes and envelops him in energy. Unfortunatly it appears to only make him stronger, giving some credance to the 'magic gem' rumor. Gambit manages to get on Juggy's back and starts charging his helmet, which explodes..... only to reveal him unhurt.

The fight has moved to a construction area while Gambit was charging Cain's helmet, and he flings some charged cards at the structure behind Cain. Unfortunatly the whole thing falls and buries both of them in tons of steel. Rogue sees it fall and rushes to find Gambit, using the strength absorbed from Cain to dig him out. He's alive, but fading fast. Rogue shares a passionate final kiss with Gambit, as rescue helicopters can be seen coming in.

Three days later back at the Xavier Institute, we see Bobby in his room. He's made an ice sculpture of Rogue, next to his bed. He gets interrupted by the phone ringing, and is suprised to hear from Rogue. Bobby confirms that Gambit's body was found in Las Vegas. Rogue cuts him off before he can say anything else, and tells him that she's scared. When she absorbs someone the powers normally only lasts a few hours, but this time she can still hear his voice in her head. Unfortunatly she has to go, as her phone card is about to run out. She tells him goobye and hangs up, but the last panel shows her holding a charged card.

[Gaveedra 6]

I liked this issue as well. Its funny to think that Ultimate Gambit ended up being little more than a plot device for the development of Ultimate Rogue, but I can't say I'll miss his character. He never would have mixed well with the rest of the cast if he stayed on. I'm quite interested to see how this will effect Rogue!

[Sandoz]

She tells him goobye and hangs up, but the last panel shows her holding a charged card.
So, the implication is that she's absorbed him permanently? Wow.

That's a very interesting twist to the Gambit/Rogue relationship. I was disappointed with how "Cry Wolf" ended. As it was with X-Men: Evolution, it felt like Gambit and Rogue were forced together just because they're a popular pair in the 616 'verse, though the Ultimateverse is so much more interesting when it does something new.

[Adem]

Another good Ultimate annual which set up some future stories. I really don't like Gambit though I would have perferred if he stayed a homeless thief like how we saw him in his first appearance. Every now and then get a one shot or two parter about him and later he could join the X-Men.

[Dizzy D]

Though if they ever do my idea for Pocy's Horseman being dead characters, now they have four very good choices. And now my quick synopsis, since I don't want to write too much.

Just a question: apart from Beast and this new recently deceased character, who are the other two you are thinking off?

[streator]

wasn't ultimate longshot just killed by wanda a few issues ago?and was ultimate juggernaut just a strong mutant before this (he has the cyttorak gem now it sounds like)?

[Adem]

wasn't ultimate longshot just killed by wanda a few issues ago?and was ultimate juggernaut just a strong mutant before this (he has the cyttorak gem now it sounds like)?

Longshot was turned into a cat by Wanda just so S.H.I.E.L.D. could take him to prison hes probably back to human form now.

[thik_3rd]

is shadowcat ultimate spidey's girlfriend now?

[Adem]

is shadowcat ultimate spidey's girlfriend now?

Yes see Ultimate Spider-Man Annual #1 for more details.

[thik_3rd]

well, i'll never read ult. spidey, but i just looked it up on the spidey board. i knew the solicits said he'd be getting a new gf, and it was somewhat allueded to here.

this issue was ok, nothing amazing though.

[Beast]

Just a question: apart from Beast and this new recently deceased character, who are the other two you are thinking off?
Sabretooth (Decapitated by Wolverine)
Mr. Sinister (Strangled himself by order of Apocalypse)
Beast (Killed by Sentinel in Washington D.C.)
Gambit (Killed during Battle w/ Juggernaut + Absorbed by Rogue)

[Flight]

Who wrote this?

[Beast]

Who wrote this?
Brian K. Vaughan. :)

[Twigglet]

Yay! One less universe without that annoying mutant. :D

[Adem]

Sabretooth (Decapitated by Wolverine)
Mr. Sinister (Strangled himself by order of Apocalypse)
Beast (Killed by Sentinel in Washington D.C.)
Gambit (Killed during Battle w/ Juggernaut + Absorbed by Rogue)

Pretty good list though I don't agree with one which is Mr.Sinister since Apocalypse ordered him to kill himself so he probably doesn't want him. Maybe sub in Blink she is said to be dead in the Ultimate universe due to Mojo's reality show.

[Gaveedra 6]

Sabretooth (Decapitated by Wolverine)
Mr. Sinister (Strangled himself by order of Apocalypse)
Beast (Killed by Sentinel in Washington D.C.)
Gambit (Killed during Battle w/ Juggernaut + Absorbed by Rogue)

An interesting idea, although having Beast and Sabertooth as horsemen might be sort of redundant. Strong. fast, claws, hairy, etc. I always though that having horsemen of Apocalypse revealed as deceased X-Men was a great plot twist.

He's had all sorts of lackeys though. I loved the original War. And weren't Frenzy and her gang henchmen of A's in the early X-Factor?

[OMGDRAN]

In the ultimate universe, Sabertooth has an admantium skeleton, correct? If he does, he may not actually be dead as Wolverine may not have been able to fully decapitate him.

[Nightcrawler]

Good issue, even though I don't care too much for either Rogue or Gambit. Surprisingly enjoyable, though.

[Beast]

In the ultimate universe, Sabertooth has an admantium skeleton, correct? If he does, he may not actually be dead as Wolverine may not have been able to fully decapitate him.
Wolverine commented about cutting inbetween the the bones of the neck, since there couldn't be solid adamantium at the joints. I also think they show Creed's head coming off, but I might be mistaken. It's been a long time since I read those issues. :)

[Adem]

Wolverine commented about cutting inbetween the the bones of the neck, since there couldn't be solid adamantium at the joints. I also think they show Creed's head coming off, but I might be mistaken. It's been a long time since I read those issues. :)

You are correct Beast they do show it.

[LoneWolf21]

Of course, we don't know if Apocalypse is actually real, or just another Son of Sam-esque vision of Sinisters.

[OMGDRAN]

Wolverine commented about cutting inbetween the the bones of the neck, since there couldn't be solid adamantium at the joints. I also think they show Creed's head coming off, but I might be mistaken. It's been a long time since I read those issues. :)

It sure looks like it comes off, but really you just see the neck being cut through, not the whole head flying off. Unless i saw the head laying next to his feet I saw sabertooth isn't dead.

[Beast]

Of course, we don't know if Apocalypse is actually real, or just another Son of Sam-esque vision of Sinisters.
The final shot of Apocalypse appears to indicate that he's real. Especially since he looks much more sinister (no pun intended) than the dummy that Sinister created. :)

[Alpha to Omega]

I hope they follow this story up in the regular series soon since I really liked Ultimate Juggy.

[Cayman]

Good issue. Ultimate Gambit's death was sad.

The art kind was decent throughout, nothing really inspiring but not bad.

Probably my least favorite of the 3 annuals so far though.

Cay

[Volk1]

Good issue. Ultimate Gambit's death was sad.

The art kind was decent throughout, nothing really inspiring but not bad.

Cay

Agree and agree.....

This Gambit seemed more defined than his 616 counterpart......In this series he's shown to have the wherewithall to take up a spot on Xavier's.....BKV writing is again on par..that guy is sooo money....I wasnt inspired with this art as well, I'd rather have preferred for Immonen to draw it and I don't like his art as much either...

Where will Rogue go???
I like the idea of Beast and Gambit coming back.....I don't care how...just that they do.....R.I.P Gambit.......(for now?)

[Doom Hammer]

Great issue.

Though I didn't like the idea of Gambit as an X-Man, I enjoyed his occasional presence. I liked that he was around to be tooled around with.

When I heard he died, I was kinda upset. Not that he's my favorite, I just wish that Ultimate characters would not be killed off so lightly. (See: Ultimate Beast). But when I read the issue, I realized it was a beatifully-told story that gave Gambit a fitting end. Color me pleased.

I also like that Gambit is "living on" in Rogue. She went so far as to say that she could still "hear him." It seems she permanently absorbed his memories; his thoughts; his feelings; his essence; his soul, even. Quite the interesting development.

The Ultimate annuals have been SPECTACULAR, and this book carries on the tradition, leaving the actual Ultimate X-Men book ripe with new possibilities.

[fishtaco]

Im not reading Ultimate X-Men until they introduce Ultimate Mammomax.

[Volk1]

The Ultimate annuals have been SPECTACULAR, and this book carries on the tradition, leaving the actual Ultimate X-Men book ripe with new possibilities.

Well put.......and I can't help but acknowledge that since BKV showed up this title has been good to superb......I really wish BKV would just make this "one of his books"....anything he writes is gold and to think that Brian "The Traitor" Singer is coming on board to replace him makes me queasy.....although I do think they will be co-writing it..........

Ult. X-Men is running quite smoothly right now.....and next we get a Summer Bro's showdown!...

[pureclint]

Well put.......and I can't help but acknowledge that since BKV showed up this title has been good to superb......I really wish BKV would just make this "one of his books"....anything he writes is gold and to think that Brian "The Traitor" Singer is coming on board to replace him makes me queasy.....although I do think they will be co-writing it..........

Ult. X-Men is running quite smoothly right now.....and next we get a Summer Bro's showdown!...


You do no BKV is co writting with Singer, so it will not be that bad. The was I think it will go is Singer is going to be a "idea man" and toss out big ideas he was unable to use in the Xmen flicks and BKV will fit them into the book.

All the Annuals rocked, I would say this was the 2nd best after USM.

I never mind Deaths in comics as long as the character is treated with respect (well not if its a bad guy) leading up to his/her death, and I really liked this twist with Rogue. A nice alteration on the Ms Marvel absorbtion and the Gambit relationship all in one neat ball.

[Will.S]

A nice alteration on the Ms Marvel absorbtion and the Gambit relationship all in one neat ball.
Yeah that's the same type of parallel I saw with the 616 universe one. The only problem I have with it is that 616 Rogue did it again with Sunfire over in X-Men so it's not the most original idea.

I did like how Gambit went out though and the annual was very good. So far all the annuals were awesome and had important relevance towards all the characters involved, especially this one so I say good job to Brian K. Vaughn and Tom Raney for this sad yet cool tale.

[pureclint]

Yeah that's the same type of parallel I saw with the 616 universe one. The only problem I have with it is that 616 Rogue did it again with Sunfire over in X-Men so it's not the most original idea.


Rogue killed Sunfire? When did that happen????

[pesmerga316]

I like how he alluded to Pete and Kitty being a couple now when Ice Man made that snide remark

[Will.S]

Rogue killed Sunfire? When did that happen????
Nah Rogue didn't kill Sunfire but he had nearly died after being chopped up by Lady Deathstrike over in Rogue's own title. Rogue had absorbed Sunfire's psyche and powers on his deathbed (at his request I believe) so now she has his powers and personality locked away in her head.

I'm amazed at how she can do this when Jean had trouble keeping Xavier intact in her head over in Morrison's run.

[Valmore]

Gambit dying means this issue automatically SUCKS ASS, and I won't waste any more of my cash on Ultimate X-Men ever again.

Stupid comic book writers.

NOTE: This post has been edited several times, but the anger remains the same.

[Will.S]

Gambit dying means this issue automatically SUCKS ASS, and I won't waste any more of my cash on Ultimate X-Men ever again.

Stupid comic book writers.

NOTE: This post has been edited several times, but the anger remains the same.
Heh well even though that's a pretty permanent death I'm sure there are ways around it.

Besides, we still have 616 Gambit (who I like better anyway).

[Jake V]

Gambit dying means this issue automatically SUCKS ASS, and I won't waste any more of my cash on Ultimate X-Men ever again.

Stupid comic book writers.

NOTE: This post has been edited several times, but the anger remains the same.
You've got it all wrong. Gambit dying makes this the best X-Men comic EVER and is awarded bonus points for the twist at the end.

[Valmore]

Heh well even though that's a pretty permanent death I'm sure there are ways around it.

Besides, we still have 616 Gambit (who like like better anyway).

Yeah... wish they'd give us back his ongoing series... the writer was just starting to write some fairly good stuff when they yanked it.

Still, it's just annoying that they've never used Gambit as more than a plot device in the book, and now they used him as the cheapest plot device of all - death.

So, I figure if they don't feel like bothering with my favorite character, they don't need my money.

[Valmore]

You've got it all wrong. Gambit dying makes this the best X-Men comic EVER and is awarded bonus points for the twist at the end.

Nope, I'm afraid you are incorrect.

Gambit dying = MAJOR SUCKTITUDE.

No bonus points. And no cash from me.

[Jake V]

Gambit = MAJOR SUCKTITUDE.
Fixed it for you.

No, I'm pretty sure that you're the one making the mistake. Crappy one-note characters who were designed to be 'kewl' are by definition lame, and are of better use dead or injured so they can shape the characterization of other, more three dimensional characters.

Having Rogue permanently absorb his powers and memories is a very clever play on her MU characterization, and will probably get more milage out of the Gambit concept than his character on his own will ever get.

He's just not a very good character and is better off dead.

[Valmore]

Gambit's not just a very good character, he's the pinnacle of creation, and the book is better with him.

Fixed it for you.

I hope your favorite character dies a horrible death and never returns, by the way.

[Jake V]

Fixed it for you.

I hope your favorite character dies a horrible death and never returns, by the way.
Yeah, I'm sure Spider-Man getting killed would make HUGE sense from a financial standpoint.

[Valmore]

Yeah, I'm sure Spider-Man getting killed would make HUGE sense from a financial standpoint.

Wrong book. Pick an X-Man. Hope he/she dies. Same difference.

Which is why I hate death as a plot device - you take away someone's favorite character.

[Jake V]

Wrong book. Pick an X-Man. Hope he/she dies. Same difference.

Which is why I hate death as a plot device - you take away someone's favorite character.
I don't read any X-Men books.

[Valmore]

I don't read any X-Men books.

Then why do you bother posting on a board about X-Men comics?

Seems counter-productive.

[Jake V]

Then why do you bother posting on a board about X-Men comics?

Seems counter-productive.
Because Gambit is FREAKIN' DEAD and I'm having a PARTY!!

[Valmore]

Because Gambit is FREAKIN' DEAD and I'm having a PARTY!!

That was cute. I almost chuckled at that one.

[(NO)]

Because Gambit is FREAKIN' DEAD and I'm having a PARTY!!

Is there really a need for you to act so immature?

Instead of acting like a jerk please discuss the story.

[Valmore]

Is there really a need for you to act so immature?

Instead of acting like an a**hole please discuss the story.

To be fair, I probably deserve this chiding as well.

[(NO)]

To be fair, I probably deserve this chiding as well.

Not really.

He started it. :)

There was no need for him to make fun of the character.

[Will.S]

Not really.

He started it. :)

There was no need for him to make fun of the character.
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"It's all in good fun chum."

[JLarson]

This thread made the issue twice as enjoyable. I went back and read it again, and smiled the whole time. Maybe I'll post some pictures of me grinning over this stellar comic book.

Death as a plot device? Jesus, come on already. Reading lots of comic books doesn't make you any sort of literary expert. What you're saying doesn't even begin to make sense.

[Valmore]

This thread made the issue twice as enjoyable. I went back and read it again, and smiled the whole time. Maybe I'll post some pictures of me grinning over this stellar comic book.

Death as a plot device? Jesus, come on already. Reading lots of comic books doesn't make you any sort of literary expert. What you're saying doesn't even begin to make sense.

And reading lots of comic books makes YOU any sort of literary expert?

NEXT!

[DarkCrisis]

I'm betting he's not permantly dead. I'm thinking that Jean or Prof X or something will be able to take Remy's consiousness out of Rogue and put it back into his body or something.

[Brian888]

So what happens to Juggernaut?

[JLarson]

And reading lots of comic books makes YOU any sort of literary expert?

NEXT!

Did I say that?

Having all the requirements to get a minor in English helps, though.

[Will.S]

So what happens to Juggernaut?
I guess he keeps the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak, gets up from the rubble and does his own thing (and hopefully gets a better costume).

[TJ Shoun]

I cried when Gambit died...

...because I was laughing so hard.

No, I'm just kidding -- no flames from the Gambit fans, please -- but damn I really can't stand the character. Now if he'd only die in the 616 universe too, the comic racks would be a much better place. ;)

Hell, I don't like Rogue that much either but now I have real reason not to like her.

Well Valmore, the upshot is that you know he'll be back sooner or later, in one form or another. This is superhero comics after all.

Btw, I really dug Raney's art. Although I'm not digging Ult Juggy for some reason -- too S&M or something.

[JolieBrunette]

My main problem with this issue was that it felt rushed. I would have liked to see more of the Gambit and Rogue interaction at the beginning, because it was tooooo cute. *teenage girl moment*

It also would have delayed the tragic ending a little. I'm almost as unhappy about Gambit dying as Valmore is. I don't see much purpose to his death in the issue except as a dramatic ending, and Marvel kills off far too many of its characters for it even to be that dramatic. I want my Ultimate Gambit back, s'il vous plait. :P

That said, I don't think Gambit is permanently dead. SHIELD has his body and Rogue has his soul. They merely need to find a way of putting the two together again. X-Men have come back from worse deaths.

[xnef1025]

I can see the resurrection scene now.

Forge: OK Rogue, hold this button down and touch Gambit and my Reversomajig will put his soul back in his body.

Rogue: Here goes nuthin'. *Touches Gambit... Special effects... Gambit breathes*

Gambit(groggily): Rogue?

Rogue: Remy!!! *hugs Gambit till he dies again*

Forge: Crap! Rogue, that was the 6th time!

Rogue: Sorry :(

:p

[surt_son]

I can see the resurrection scene now.

Forge: OK Rogue, hold this button down and touch Gambit and my Reversomajig will put his soul back in his body.

Rogue: Here goes nuthin'. *Touches Gambit... Special effects... Gambit breathes*

Gambit(groggily): Rogue?

Rogue: Remy!!! *hugs Gambit till he dies again*

Forge: Crap! Rogue, that was the 6th time!

Rogue: Sorry :(

:p

Hahahaha - It's funny 'cause it's true. :D

[WolverinesSon]

Aww no more kissing and hugging for Ultimate Rogue. Awwww, too bad, waaah , waaaah, waaaaah!

[Gaveedra 6]

Tom Raney did a nice job with the art on this one too. It's like night and day compared to his last Mojo issue on Uncanny. He must have been inspired!

[pureclint]

Nah Rogue didn't kill Sunfire but he had nearly died after being chopped up by Lady Deathstrike over in Rogue's own title. Rogue had absorbed Sunfire's psyche and powers on his deathbed (at his request I believe) so now she has his powers and personality locked away in her head.

I'm amazed at how she can do this when Jean had trouble keeping Xavier intact in her head over in Morrison's run.


I guess this was after his MTU beatings, I hope it gets mentioned somewher although with HoM out it could all be swpet under the rug.

I am kind of shocked she agreed considering her fear of that and all the troubles absorbing Ms Marvel casued her...

[Valmore]

Did I say that?

Having all the requirements to get a minor in English helps, though.

You too?

Majored in politics, minored in English.

York College of PA, 1999.

[UncannyAsianGirl]

Whoa... the ish sounds pretty darn good to me, too bad I won't get to read it until next week, which will be the first time I've stepped into a comic book shop in 3 months. ^^;;

Hmm... so Gambit is dead, huh? Beast is right, it is pretty suspicious though, with all the character deaths. And they're not obscure characters either.

Hehe... Juggy loves Rogue. Wow, I didn't see that one coming. 0_o

For being untouchable, she's sure got a lot of boyfriends/admirers. XD

I'm not really surprised with the Rogue fully absorbing Gambit bit, it's been done in one of the "What Ifs..." in the 616-verse, although I've never read the ish.

[stealthwise]

I liked the issue a lot, the dialogue was sharp and the story was a nice enough deviation from the 616 universe, but I'm bothered by one thing.

Why the hell did Gambit let himself get crushed to death and not just bail out? Seriously, with the helmet destroyed, why not just nail Juggernaut in the eyes with his last cards and just run off with Rogue? Instead he just takes out the building (presumably the suped-up Juggernaut survives) and lets himself get squished, with one final kiss goodbye.

What a chumpstain.

[JolieBrunette]

Why the hell did Gambit let himself get crushed to death and not just bail out? Seriously, with the helmet destroyed, why not just nail Juggernaut in the eyes with his last cards and just run off with Rogue? Instead he just takes out the building (presumably the suped-up Juggernaut survives) and lets himself get squished, with one final kiss goodbye.

I couldn't agree more. Gambit is too smart to go with a strategy that will not eliminate Juggernaut permanently AND will just get himself killed.

In chess, as you should know, a Gambit is a move where a piece is sacrificed in order to gain real advantage and ultimately win the game. His sacrifice gains no real advantage.

[Shadowcat]

Great issue.

Though I didn't like the idea of Gambit as an X-Man, I enjoyed his occasional presence. I liked that he was around to be tooled around with.

When I heard he died, I was kinda upset. Not that he's my favorite, I just wish that Ultimate characters would not be killed off so lightly. (See: Ultimate Beast). But when I read the issue, I realized it was a beatifully-told story that gave Gambit a fitting end. Color me pleased.

I also like that Gambit is "living on" in Rogue. She went so far as to say that she could still "hear him." It seems she permanently absorbed his memories; his thoughts; his feelings; his essence; his soul, even. Quite the interesting development.

The Ultimate annuals have been SPECTACULAR, and this book carries on the tradition, leaving the actual Ultimate X-Men book ripe with new possibilities.



am i the only one who finds that disgusting? if i were rogue i would be suicidal, having another mans soul inside my body would be wrong for me in more ways than one.

[cactusmaac]

This was a lot weaker than the USM Annual.

Art and colouring looked strangely unfinished and irregular - especially the figures of the X-Men on the first splash - and seeing as how I don't care much for either Rogue or Gambit, I didn't particularly get into the story.

I think it would have been better served delivering more background for Magnetic North and letting the next writer decide how to handle Fenris, Rogue and Gambit.

[kane]

I like how he alluded to Pete and Kitty being a couple now when Ice Man made that snide remark

Spidey and Kitty are not a couple yet. They dated once and kissed, not more.

Maybe they will be a couple, we will see.

[Optimus]

Yay! One less universe without that annoying mutant. :D

I think you mean one more universe without that annoying mutant. One less universe without him would be if he came back from the dead in the Ultiverse.

[atoningunifex]

I bought and read this today and was extremely underwhelmed.

I liked the art. When Tom Raney's on he's pretty darn cool. And he was on for most of the book. But the story- or lack thereof-left me cold.

The story itself: Gambit and Rogue fight Juggernaut and Gambit dies and Rogue absorbs him. Well, is this enough story for an annual? It read like jsut another issue only with more pages of fight.

Along with the slightness of story there was a slightness of characterization. Rogue doesn't gamble because her Daddy did. Rogue wants to steal thing from Fenris to make up for her evil past. Gambit likes Rogue. Juggernaut likes Rogue. It seemed pretty basic and generic.

I've been enjoying Vaughan's Ultimate X-Men, but this just felt like a rushed-out fill in issue.

[fishtaco]

So, what Ultimate X-Men characters have been killed off so far? Gambit, Proteus, Sinister, Sebastion Shaw, Beast, Prosimian, Dai Thomas, anyone else I missed?

[Beast]

So, what Ultimate X-Men characters have been killed off so far? Gambit, Proteus, Sinister, Sebastion Shaw, Beast, Prosimian, Dai Thomas, anyone else I missed?
Sabretooth. British Betsy, but she came back in Kwannon's body.

[Brian Cronin]

I bought and read this today and was extremely underwhelmed.

I liked the art. When Tom Raney's on he's pretty darn cool. And he was on for most of the book. But the story- or lack thereof-left me cold.

The story itself: Gambit and Rogue fight Juggernaut and Gambit dies and Rogue absorbs him. Well, is this enough story for an annual? It read like jsut another issue only with more pages of fight.

Along with the slightness of story there was a slightness of characterization. Rogue doesn't gamble because her Daddy did. Rogue wants to steal thing from Fenris to make up for her evil past. Gambit likes Rogue. Juggernaut likes Rogue. It seemed pretty basic and generic.

I've been enjoying Vaughan's Ultimate X-Men, but this just felt like a rushed-out fill in issue.

HA!

I just wrote basically the same thing somewhere else!

Essentially, this issue struck me as one of those issues where, had Gambit NOT died, would we even remember this issue?

-Brian

[JolieBrunette]

am i the only one who finds that disgusting? if i were rogue i would be suicidal, having another mans soul inside my body would be wrong for me in more ways than one.

Yes, I think it must be extraordinarily hard for Rogue. The man she loves (or at least lusts) is essentially dead, but she has a constant reminder of his presence inside her head.

That said, if I had to make the obvious comparison to 616, I think Gambit's presence would preferable to Ms. Marvel's. He cares about her and doesn't want to take over her body, whereas Ms. Marvel understandably was prepared to destroy Rogue's mind in order to gain control of her body.

I'm resisting the quote from X-Men #8, BTW. ;)

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

am i the only one who finds that disgusting? if i were rogue i would be suicidal, having another mans soul inside my body would be wrong for me in more ways than one.

Brings a whole new meaning to Getting inside your lover's head....

[Beast]

Brings a whole new meaning to Getting inside your lover's head....
At least she knows he'll never cheat on her behind her back now. Though since this is Ultimate X-Men, I bet it confirms that Rogue having a male psyche in her head makes her bisexual. ;)

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

At least she knows he'll never cheat on her behind her back now. Though since this is Ultimate X-Men, I bet it confirms that Rogue having a male psyche in her head makes her bisexual. ;)



No bad Cajun accent sex talk!!!!PLease for the love of God!!!

[Shadowcat]

hmmm bisexual rogue :) *ahem* it is still disgusting, that means that rogue can never cheat on gambit or if rogue acctually does his mind will be in the backround watching the entire scene probably making horrible comments. plus,now that rogue has absorbed gambit her accent will be ten times worse.

[The Lucky One]

Well. Just got back from vacation today, rushed to my local comic store to find... they're sold out. Of both this and New X-Men. Damn. Still, I'd heard someone was taking a dirt nap and I couldn't wait any longer, so I peeked. And...

Suh-weet!

No offense to Gambit fans- he had his good elements, no question about it. But at the same time, the Longshot lover in me can't help but feel giddy at the reversal... now Ultimate Gambit is out of the picture while Ultimate Longshot is still hanging around. For that matter, a clever writer could probably have Art hooking up with Rogue down the line, either on the run or as forced penance for his past crimes. Nice. And even if it doesn't happen, he's outlasted Gambit. That makes me happy.
:)

(And to boot, the issue in question came out on my birthday- best. Present. EVER!)

-D

[streator]

For that matter, a clever writer could probably have Art hooking up with Rogue down the line, either on the run or as forced penance for his past crimes.

-D
ultimate longshot is named art? i'm guessing after arthur adams? that's a nice nod.

[The Lucky One]

ultimate longshot is named art? i'm guessing after arthur adams? that's a nice nod.

Yeah, he's Arthur Centino (after Ann Nocenti), and Mojo's last name is Adams. Nice touches indeed.
;)

-D

[Will.S]

Yeah, he's Arthur Centino (after Ann Nocenti), and Mojo's last name is Adams. Nice touches indeed.
;)

-D
Just get the Ultimate Longshot avatar and be done with it ;)

[The Lucky One]

Just get the Ultimate Longshot avatar and be done with it ;)

There's an Ultimate Longshot avatar?

But hey, I like mine. At least his eyeglow is on the right side of his face.
:D

-D

[Will.S]

There's an Ultimate Longshot avatar?

But hey, I like mine. At least his eyeglow is on the right side of his face.
:D

-D
Hey I'd be happy to make you one.

And it's only right if it's in the 616 universe!

[perfect_Cell]

I thought it sucked. Art Sucked, Writing sucked.

But im a Gambit fan.

[Dizzy D]

There's an Ultimate Longshot avatar?

But hey, I like mine. At least his eyeglow is on the right side of his face.
:D

-D

You mean on the left side of his face. *insert smiley*

[Siddon]

Anyone have a huge Printing error in there comic where 8 pages where added in so two scenes were redone?

[Novaya Havoc]

Did Dazz appear in the Ult Spidey Annual?

[Shadow Crawler]

Did Dazz appear in the Ult Spidey Annual?
Dazzler is the only one that did not appear in the Ultimate Spider-Man Annual. I am kind of glad she didn't... I'm not a big fan of Ultimate Dazzler. =/

[monkeyaxslash]

didn't she came out in the begging in the danger room