Emma's friends (spoilers for MK FF #21)

[AllisterH]

No comments about Emma's surprising guest star in this comic? Am I blanking or is this the only time where we see Emma ever invited on a night on the town with the girls?

I'm curious though about soemthing.Who, among the xmen, consider Emma a friend? As strange as it sounds, Emma and Scott are lovers, but I don't think they would be friends if they weren't.

Does Emma have any male friends (that don't want to get into her panties?)

Does Emma have any female friends?

[twilight]

Does Emma have any male friends (that don't want to get into her panties?)

Beast seems quite friendly towards her.

[Atom_basher]

who were the other females invited to teh girls night out?

[AllisterH]

who were the other females invited to teh girls night out?

Reed, as usual, let something come up and Alicia wanted to cheer up Sue, so she took Sue to a bar with the following.

Sharon Ventura (Ms. Marvel/She-thing) and I loved the small joke about people forgetting her number.
Jennifer walters (She-Hulk)
and the surprising one, Emma Frost. How Alicia got ahold of Emma is never mentioned and even Emma comments that she surprised herself by showing up. Emma leaves early and acts like she is queen bee and is shameless with the telepathic powers but I think this was Emma's first girls night out that I've ever seen.

[jeangreydp]

Emma went out with Sue?

I thought they had a mutual dislike.

Geez Marvel, try and put one book out without Emma. Just one, please. :rolleyes:

[Atom_basher]

Emma went out with Sue?

I thought they had a mutual dislike.

Geez Marvel, try and put one book out without Emma. Just one, please. :rolleyes:


i mean seriously. of all the female x men charecters why emma, i would have liked ot see Storm more than emma

[Cayman]

I may have to get this issue now!

Cay

[jarrod]

Beast seems quite friendly towards her.
Henry's pretty much it. Rachel seems to respect her now too at least somewhat... I wouldn't mind seeing more of a relationship built there.

If Jubilee or Pagie ever return to the X-men, they'd probably stick up for Emma. I'd love to see a Jubilee/Kitty spat over the issue.

[jeangreydp]

i mean seriously. of all the female x men charecters why emma, i would have liked ot see Storm more than emma

I know! It makes no sense to invite out someone Sue doesn't like to cheer her up? :confused:

Really the plugging of Emma is getting a bit extreme now.

And on the note of Emma's friends- I'm pretty sure Scott and Hank are about it. Logan likes her ok. But, she's not close with anyone- not any girls at least.

[Cayman]

I know! It makes no sense to invite out someone Sue doesn't like to cheer her up? :confused:

Really the plugging of Emma is getting a bit extreme now.

And on the note of Emma's friends- I'm pretty sure Scott and Hank are about it. Logan likes her ok. But, she's not close with anyone- not any girls at least.

She's been reaching out to Rogue a bit in Adjectiveless.

Cay

[fishtaco]

Rachel seems to respect her now too at least somewhat... I wouldn't mind seeing more of a relationship built there.Rachel certainly does not like Emma. Who's the one always saying, "You can take the White Queen out of the Hellfire Club, but you can't take the Hellfire Club out of the White Queen"? ;)

Not to mention what's coming up in X-men Unlimited 11.

[Steven F.]

Awwww.....was Crystal not there? I had thought I read she was going to be there. :(

[jarrod]

Rachel certainly does not like Emma. Who's the one always saying, "You can take the White Queen out of the Hellfire Club, but you can't take the Hellfire Club out of the White Queen"? ;)

Not to mention what's coming up in X-men Unlimited 11.
Well, she certainly doesn't trust Emma yet... but after their team up in Chasing Hellfire, there hasn't been the same amount of animosity either. I think Rachel and Emma could form an interesting relationship as psuedo- stepmom/mentor to stepkid/student.

[AllisterH]

Well, she certainly doesn't trust Emma yet... but after their team up in Chasing Hellfire, there hasn't been the same amount of animosity either. I think Rachel and Emma could form an interesting relationship as psuedo- stepmom/mentor to stepkid/student.

Rachel has only gone from "would cheerfully piss on her grave" stage to the "wish you were dead" stage. She despises Emma still but respects her ability.

As for Logan, didn't he once tell her not to get too cosy since as soon as Jean got back, Scott would kick her (Emma) to the curb?

As for Emma/Sue friendship, both Emma and Sue themselves in the comics were wondering why Emma was there. The only thing I can think of is that Alicia couldn't get a call to Crystal and/or Namorita (phone calls to the Moon and Atlantis are pretty damn expensive I imagine).

Still, I wouldn't mind seeing Emma and Sue actually develop a sort of friendship.

[Crimson]

I haven't read the issue... but Sue is a bit po'd at Reed for forgetting their anniversary, right?

Well a lot of females I know, when they are ticked off at their men like to get together and bitch about men and all the crappy stuff they do. Emma, the bitch of Marvel, seems like a perfect fit for a girly night out to blow off some steam.

The fact she's not a close friend also means Sue doesn't have to feel bad the next day for being ticked off. She loves Reed but she's ticked, she needs a release that won't bite her in the ass.

[streator]

it was a little odd to have emma go out with sue. but, it worked.

emma's friends with beast, as mentioned. she got along well with xavier. seems to get along well with havok. the only animosity i can remember from fellow x-men towards emma has come from storm, the cuckoos (after sophie's death), kitty, and rachel summers.

[DDM]

Henry's pretty much it. Rachel seems to respect her now too at least somewhat... I wouldn't mind seeing more of a relationship built there.

If Jubilee or Pagie ever return to the X-men, they'd probably stick up for Emma. I'd love to see a Jubilee/Kitty spat over the issue.

Rachel may respect Emma Frost, but she is still put off by her when Emma Frost knew Selene was present; however, Frost did nothing to warn or help Rachel at all. Rachel only defeated Selene because Selene is without a corporeal body. If Selene had been at full power, the Black Queen would have easily defeated Rachel...

[Gaveedra 6]

Emma and Psylocke are shown to hate each others guts in a way that might prove to be interesting. Cleremont's writing Betsy in a very Emma-like fashion since her return. I wouldn't be surprised if we see them together more - fighting and then bonding. Awww.

[Atomic Mongoose]

Emma seems to get along with Beast (they were kind of a 'buddy flick' aspect of Morrisson's run on New X-Men), Professor X, The Hellions (her squad), and recently, even Moonstar.

I don't find it too hard to believe Emma would be invited to go hang out with Sue and the girls. Emma reminds me so, so, so much of one of my best real life friends (and a friend I think we ALL have), who you love to death, but they're not exactly your first choice of people to hang out with at any given time. I kind of make a comparison in my head of Emma's relationship to the X-Men (and other heroes), as being very similar to BtVS's Cordelia and her relationship to "The Scoobies". Plus, it was a girls' night out to a bar, and who knows... Emma's maybe a lot of fun when she's had a few drinks.

[bfrank]

while they didn't seem like best friends, sue and emma certainly didn't seem to hate each other in that X4 Mini...

[Vegetarian Goat]

Is there still any unresolved tension between Emma and Bobby? Or has that been forgotten?

Especially since his second mutation has kicked in, it might be interesting to drag that back up.

[streator]

Is there still any unresolved tension between Emma and Bobby? Or has that been forgotten?

Especially since his second mutation has kicked in, it might be interesting to drag that back up.
it hasn't been brought up since the 90's. in fact, before milligan brought emma over to x-men, i can't even remember a single scene that she and bobby have shared since she became an x-man.

[MrBiggs7]

while they didn't seem like best friends, sue and emma certainly didn't seem to hate each other in that X4 Mini...

Exactly what I was thinking. They seemed to have a little bonding moment on the bleachers.

[Flight]

I think Rogue, Beast, Havok & Wolverine all like Emma

Storm, Psylocke, Shadowcat, Rachel definitely do not. Everyone else is neutral I think (Bishop, Nightcrawler, Polaris etc)

[Quarterwolf]

I can see Emma and Sue being friends after X4. They both have alot in common being "superheroes" and Sue was evil for a time being possessed by Malice and Emma has possessed people. ;)

I think if nothing else they have a healthy respect for one another and the lives they lead. So I can totally see them being friends in the way one would be friends with a co-worker.

[Cayman]

I like Emma. She could hang out with me, if she wanted to.

Cay

[blue13]

Rachel has only gone from "would cheerfully piss on her grave" stage to the "wish you were dead" stage. She despises Emma still but respects her ability.

As for Logan, didn't he once tell her not to get too cosy since as soon as Jean got back, Scott would kick her (Emma) to the curb?

As for Emma/Sue friendship, both Emma and Sue themselves in the comics were wondering why Emma was there. The only thing I can think of is that Alicia couldn't get a call to Crystal and/or Namorita (phone calls to the Moon and Atlantis are pretty damn expensive I imagine).

Still, I wouldn't mind seeing Emma and Sue actually develop a sort of friendship.

i don't think rachel "despises" emma any more. did you read the hellfire arc of uncanny?

they teamed up, and not because they were FORCED to, but rachel seemed cool with it.

emma and sue are very different. emma is provocative on the outside, but i think she's very loyal on the inside.

sue, on the other hand, is a promiscuous woman underneath.

emma's comment about namor to sues in FF/x-men was the only good thing about that crossover.

[xmanson]

I like Emma. She could hang out with me, if she wanted to.

Cay


She can, you just gotta find the right pills.;)

[xmanson]

while they didn't seem like best friends, sue and emma certainly didn't seem to hate each other in that X4 Mini...


Jesus, let's forget that piece of trash ever existed....

[Bart Simpson]

Emma seems to get along with Beast (they were kind of a 'buddy flick' aspect of Morrisson's run on New X-Men), Professor X, The Hellions (her squad), and recently, even Moonstar.

I don't find it too hard to believe Emma would be invited to go hang out with Sue and the girls. Emma reminds me so, so, so much of one of my best real life friends (and a friend I think we ALL have), who you love to death, but they're not exactly your first choice of people to hang out with at any given time. I kind of make a comparison in my head of Emma's relationship to the X-Men (and other heroes), as being very similar to BtVS's Cordelia and her relationship to "The Scoobies". Plus, it was a girls' night out to a bar, and who knows... Emma's maybe a lot of fun when she's had a few drinks.

You have a friend like Emma? lol.
If someone exactly like EMMA showed up and acted the way they did...dressed with no class everywhere they went, stole my lover, and then constantly put everyone down, and constant remarks towards friends, I would have told them off long ago.

About the book...enough is enough. I hate Emma Frost with a passion. So mant other characters would have made more sense in this issue. Crystal, Storm, heck even Kitty.
Emma Frost needs to be limited to 1 or 2 titles or just die altogether (I am so sick of her), otherwise she has appeared in more x-books than Wolverine...
she's been in Spider Man Marvel Knights, House of M, now FF, Cable/Deadpool, Fantastic Four/ XMen crossover, New Avengers and I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting. I have been trying other books to get away from this wench and she keeps popping up....GASJKAKJHSKASKJH!
DIE!!!!!!!!! :mad: :evilangry :evilsmile

[xakko]

I know! It makes no sense to invite out someone Sue doesn't like to cheer her up? :confused:

Really the plugging of Emma is getting a bit extreme now.

And on the note of Emma's friends- I'm pretty sure Scott and Hank are about it. Logan likes her ok. But, she's not close with anyone- not any girls at least.

There are dozens of people who would've been invited before Emma- from the recent Spider-Man/Human Torch, Mary Jane would be an obvious choice. Kitty would be selected (given the history with the good X-men/FF mini) but isn't legal to drink, apparently. Ororo, as mentioned, would also fit in better.

I don't know if Marvel realizes the overexposure of Emma is polarizing the fans this much. Whatever they end up doing with her- killing her off, making her revert to her true nature, become a madam for a new X-Ranch, hop universes and irritate the fans at DC, or even (though I don't see how this would be possibly a good idea) remain an X-man and marry Scott Summers- is going to severely cheese off a large segment of their readership

[Kirayoshi]

Personally I'm surprised that Alicia didn't invite Mary Jane Watson-Parker. MJ and Sue seemed to hit it off toward the end of Spider-Man/Human Torch.

MJ: It's all airbrushed, honestly. But you and those tight costumes, what's your secret?
Sue: Unstable molecules, MJ. They're very forgiving.

[Cayman]

Sheesh, she's only in two regular titles. She's hardly overexposed if she makes a guest appearance in another book from time to time.

Cay

[fishtaco]

You have a friend like Emma? lol.
If someone exactly like EMMA showed up and acted the way they did...dressed with no class everywhere they went, stole my lover, and then constantly put everyone down, and constant remarks towards friends, I would have told them off long ago.

About the book...enough is enough. I hate Emma Frost with a passion. So mant other characters would have made more sense in this issue. Crystal, Storm, heck even Kitty.
Emma Frost needs to be limited to 1 or 2 titles or just die altogether (I am so sick of her), otherwise she has appeared in more x-books than Wolverine...
she's been in Spider Man Marvel Knights, House of M, now FF, Cable/Deadpool, Fantastic Four/ XMen crossover, New Avengers and I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting. I have been trying other books to get away from this wench and she keeps popping up....GASJKAKJHSKASKJH!
DIE!!!!!!!!! :mad: :evilangry :evilsmileEmma just got her head blown off in Weapon X: Days of Future Now 2. Might want to read that if youre sick of Emma. I am, too.

[jarrod]

Rachel may respect Emma Frost, but she is still put off by her when Emma Frost knew Selene was present; however, Frost did nothing to warn or help Rachel at all. Rachel only defeated Selene because Selene is without a corporeal body. If Selene had been at full power, the Black Queen would have easily defeated Rachel...
Rachel was "put off" initially, but it seemed to me Emma resolved that by indicating she felt Rachel more than capable of handling Selene (and thus her assistance wasn't really needed). She didn't help Rachel because she had faith in her.

While Rachel's only recently started to respect Emma's abilities, I'd wager that Emma's always respected Rachel's power.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Emma's one of the best and deepest characters in Marvel right now, she deserves her screen time.

[Shadowcat]

Emma and Psylocke are shown to hate each others guts in a way that might prove to be interesting. Cleremont's writing Betsy in a very Emma-like fashion since her return. I wouldn't be surprised if we see them together more - fighting and then bonding. Awww.



god forbid emma acctually have a girlfriend. Writers seem more content with making emma the most hated x-woman in the century without any real reason for why certain people such as psylocke have anger towards her.The whole psylocke and emma diss battle seemed forced and quite boring in my opinion.

[AllisterH]

god forbid emma acctually have a girlfriend. Writers seem more content with making emma the most hated x-woman in the century without any real reason for why certain people such as psylocke have anger towards her.The whole psylocke and emma diss battle seemed forced and quite boring in my opinion.

Er, but doesn't Psylocke know Emma from the hellfire club even before she became an X-man? I thought that was where the hatred first came from...

[fishtaco]

Er, but doesn't Psylocke know Emma from the hellfire club even before she became an X-man? I thought that was where the hatred first came from...I'm not sure if Psylocke ever met Emma when Betsy was infiltrating the Hellfire Club for STRIKE (as depicted in X-Treme X-Men 3), but Psylocke was an X-Man when Emma was the White Queen of the Hellfire Club. Betsy apparently hasnt forgiven her yet.

[Bishop_Proudstar]

I know! It makes no sense to invite out someone Sue doesn't like to cheer her up? :confused:

Really the plugging of Emma is getting a bit extreme now.

And on the note of Emma's friends- I'm pretty sure Scott and Hank are about it. Logan likes her ok. But, she's not close with anyone- not any girls at least.

She-Hulk wouldn't like Emma.

As far as I know The Avengers don't even know about The Hellfire Club.

(Unless Beast told them).

If so, they would've "visited" their mansion next door a long time ago.

[Bart Simpson]

Emma's one of the best and deepest characters in Marvel right now, she deserves her screen time.

About as deep as Pamela Anderson. :(

[Dizzy D]

I'm not sure if Psylocke ever met Emma when Betsy was infiltrating the Hellfire Club for STRIKE (as depicted in X-Treme X-Men 3), but Psylocke was an X-Man when Emma was the White Queen of the Hellfire Club. Betsy apparently hasnt forgiven her yet.

When Psylocke became an X-man though, the Hellfire Club and the X-men had an alliance. Betsy never met Emma as a villain: either they were allied, continents apart, Emma was in a coma or Emma was teaching Generation X.

[xakko]

When Psylocke became an X-man though, the Hellfire Club and the X-men had an alliance. Betsy never met Emma as a villain: either they were allied, continents apart, Emma was in a coma or Emma was teaching Generation X.

Even when Magneto was the White King, I don't think the X-men even considered the Hellfire Club as anything but what they were- villains. However, it was in the interest of survival that they formed an alliance. I'm sure Roosevelt was just all happy happy joy joy about buddying up to Stalin in WW2, but it happened for the greater good.

[fishtaco]

When Psylocke became an X-man though, the Hellfire Club and the X-men had an alliance. Betsy never met Emma as a villain: either they were allied, continents apart, Emma was in a coma or Emma was teaching Generation X.Mostly what Xakko said. The X-men were at a truce with the Hellfire Club only because Magneto became a member of both groups. Reread Uncanny X-men 213, where Storm protests against Magneto's proposal to become the White King.

They weren't fighting, but their was certainly a lot of animosity and tension between the two groups. They didn't like each other at all. If I were to describe the Betsy-Emma scene in Uncanny X-Men 460, "animosity" would be it.

Xakko's example of the Cold War is a good one. It was pretty much the same case.

[LoneWolf21]

Even so, they never really interacted before hand. I myself just chalk it up to two "Type A" personalities or two magnets of the same polarity meeting. It just doesn't work out.

[thik_3rd]

her appearance was explained away in mk4 because of the x4 mini, but the whole time it was a pretty much "why did i invite her?"/"why did i agree to come?" thing going on between the two.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Emma interrupting Sue's narration was a great idea. Funny stuff.

[Knightmare10880]

I might pick this one up, how much of a role does Sharon Ventura aka the She-Thing play in the comic.

[thik_3rd]

shingie (it works for she-hulk) barely does anything.