HAWKMAN- DC's Underappreciated Gem?

[Dennis K]

I certainly think so. I love this book and wish more people would.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I certainly think so. I love this book and wish more people would.


I just got into it with issue 41#. Its freakin cool I think. More should read it.

[Adem]

I plan to give it a try in November because its a prelude to Rann/Thanagar War if I like it I'll add it to my pull list.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I plan to give it a try in November because its a prelude to Rann/Thanagar War if I like it I'll add it to my pull list.


You should get the current arc with Hawkman dead and Golden Eagle looking to draw out his killers. Just a question....who was that Hawkman on the last page of 43# ?

[steeler80]

It's one of the series I most look forward to every month. Consistently good stuff.

[pureclint]

You should get the current arc with Hawkman dead and Golden Eagle looking to draw out his killers. Just a question....who was that Hawkman on the last page of 43# ?


There are a couple of Hawkman threads in the JSA forum, including one on issue 43 and as I say there it is Carter. Look at the way the chest harnesses are attached on Charlie's close up then on the end. The Hawkman who cleaves up Lion-Mane is way agrresive to, unlike Charlie.

The book has been way better then I expected ever since Johns left, its great stuff.

[Blueferret]

There are a couple of Hawkman threads in the JSA forum, including one on issue 43 and as I say there it is Carter. Look at the way the chest harnesses are attached on Charlie's close up then on the end. The Hawkman who cleaves up Lion-Mane is way agrresive to, unlike Charlie.

The book has been way better then I expected ever since Johns left, its great stuff.

I got the impression that it was Katar Hol at the end due to the savagery of the attack. Of course, Charlie could be flipping out also :eek:

This book really picked up steam around #35 with the new creative team. They had hard shoes to fill after John's left, but Hawkman's right up there on my must read list every month.

[pureclint]

I got the impression that it was Katar Hol at the end due to the savagery of the attack. Of course, Charlie could be flipping out also :eek:

This book really picked up steam around #35 with the new creative team. They had hard shoes to fill after John's left, but Hawkman's right up there on my must read list every month.


Katar is a possibility, kinda....Fate was in Carter's mind with all those other Hawks so you never know what got out.

But no way is it Charlie, unless Bennet messed up bad. Here is what I said in the JSA thread:

I just reread the issue and unless Bennet messed up royaly with the art on the last page I am 100% sure it is Carter. I wish I had a scanner, but if you look at the close up of Charlie when he puts th Hawk mask back on his Chest Symbol is held on by D rings. Then the last page with Hawkman standing over Lion-mane (who is eyeless and disembowled no less) the Chest Symbol is attached to the straps with rivets, LIKE they are in the flash back of Hawkman (is that Carter, remember Hawkgirl is wearing a odd costume and Bumblebee is a dude) he has the same riveted chest plate...

[Zero Hunter]

Bennet coming on to take care of art chores on the book totaly turned it around in my eyes. There was a stretch in their after Johns and Rags left that the book just floundered a bit at least for and I dropped it for a while. I came back when Bennet started and have not been disapointed at all. It is one of my top ten books now.

[SleepWalker]

Hawkman has been one of my favorite DC books for the longest time now. Oddly enough, it keeps getting better and better (even without Geoff Johns!), which is nothing but a good thing.

[d00m]

Aquaman has been another underappreciated gem as of late :(

[Blueferret]

Aquaman has been another underappreciated gem as of late :(


Is this after the Sub-Diego arc or before?

[Zero Hunter]

You know i tried to get into the new Aquaman book but just haven't had any luck. The book rna bad for me right form the start. I stuck around for 6 or so issues, but finally dropped it. Came back for the Sub Diego start, but even that just couldn't hold my attention. I guess I just got to spoiled by the bad ass Peter David version of the character and seeing him agian in the old superfriends look just makes me dislike the book more.

[EmmaFrostSlavingFanBoy]

Hawkman is one of DC's better books. Good characters in Hawkman and Hawkgirl. I've been following the entire run and it's been pretty good. The only thing I don't like is the St. Roche angle, come on, put them in New Orleans. St. Roche? What the hell is that? Is it somewhere in St. Bernard Parish? St. Tammany? Plaquemines?

[Sk8maven]

Hawkman is one of DC's better books. Good characters in Hawkman and Hawkgirl. I've been following the entire run and it's been pretty good. The only thing I don't like is the St. Roche angle, come on, put them in New Orleans. St. Roche? What the hell is that? Is it somewhere in St. Bernard Parish? St. Tammany? Plaquemines?St. Roch (no E) is an attempt to create a Hawk-mythos equivalent of Opal City. Nobody raises too much heck about Opal City not being Portland ME or Portsmouth NH or Baltimore or Charleston or Savannah or Tampa or Houston/Galveston or wherever you think it is. (Not that many people even agree on where it "IS".)

The way I see it, St. Roch isn't New Orleans, but it desperately wants to be - so it goes out of its way to imitate it. It's either on the Mississippi above New Orleans but below Natchez, or it's actually on the Atchafalaya, if the DCU version of the Army Corps of Engineers gave up on trying to keep the Mississippi from diverting down it. (In the latter case its population has swelled and New Orleans' has decreased, so that it's actually larger now than NO.)

"St. Roch", incidentally, is the patron of invalids and a protector against plague. http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=156

Maven

[EmmaFrostSlavingFanBoy]

St. Roch (no E) is an attempt to create a Hawk-mythos equivalent of Opal City. Nobody raises too much heck about Opal City not being Portland ME or Portsmouth NH or Baltimore or Charleston or Savannah or Tampa or Houston/Galveston or wherever you think it is. (Not that many people even agree on where it "IS".)

The way I see it, St. Roch isn't New Orleans, but it desperately wants to be - so it goes out of its way to imitate it. It's either on the Mississippi above New Orleans but below Natchez, or it's actually on the Atchafalaya, if the DCU version of the Army Corps of Engineers gave up on trying to keep the Mississippi from diverting down it. (In the latter case its population has swelled and New Orleans' has decreased, so that it's actually larger now than NO.)

"St. Roch", incidentally, is the patron of invalids and a protector against plague. http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=156

Maven

Yes, I follow what you're saying. I thought maybe it was on the opposite of Lake Ponchartrain or maybe between NO and BR in St. James Parish. It is within French LA, so you figure it's not North of Baton Rouge and no further north than Ascension Parish. I think in one recent issue they talked about St. Roche being built because New Orleans was under a plague attack so I figured it was built up River, but not that far away maybe just one parish up. In other issues they did talk about a drive to Baton Rouge, so you figure it's not to far from Baton Rouge and somewhere between NO and BR, but closer to NO.

[Suzanne]

It's no surprise where I stand - Hawkman is my favorite title, and I hope all the excitement going on will draw in more readers. I didn't know what to expect after Geoff and Rags left, but I think Jimmy, Justin, and Joe have done a nice job of moving things forward, especially Carter & Kendra's relationship. To me, it started a bit awkwardly, but they've made this book their own.

I like how Geoff characterized St. Roche as a sleazy, almost backwater town; sort of like a slimier Savannah or less glamourous New Orleans. I don't think we see that as much now, perhaps because it's been destroyed over and over lately :p

As for where Opal City is, it said in JLA #115 that it was in Maryland :D

[hondobrode]

I was reading Hawkman faithfully and got off track here a while back just before this whole arc started. Now I'm sorry that I did. I'm going to have to go back and get the issues.

Hawkman is definitely one of the best titles DC has. I sorta think of him as kind of a winged Conan, if that makes any sense at all...

I'm desperately hoping this title doesn't get canned. He and Hawkgirl are a great team. I do wish that they would get more good solid villains built up as "their own" however. I think that also inhibits Green Arrow to a great degree also.

Bennett's pencils really look good on this book too. Hopefully if Jonah Hex is a hit, some of that readership will spill over to the Hawks' book to see some more of Palmiotti. I can't remember if Justin is working on Hex or not, but I think so.

[noodleboy]

I've been reading Hawkman via the TPB route. I have loved it so far, I just wish that DC would publish new trades quicker than what they are doing.


As far as Aquaman goes, I loved the Will Pfeifer run, I would say that it was better than Peter David's Aquaman. However, John Arcudi has killed all of the excitement from the Sub Diego storyline and Aquaman has settled back down to being bland again.

[GeorgeG]

Just not a fan of Palmiotti's/Gray's writing. Get a different writer, maybe someone like Kurt Busiek, then I'll give it another shot.

[Blueferret]

Just not a fan of Palmiotti's/Gray's writing. Get a different writer, maybe someone like Kurt Busiek, then I'll give it another shot.

Give the current arc a try. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I didn't care for the first few Palmiotti/Gray issues, but they definitely picked it up a few notches.

[GoblinEcks]

Hawkman is always a good read and is a very underappreciated book, but as for DC's most Underappreciated book I think Aquaman has it beat. Its seems to me that even DC doesn't appreciate this book or this character. I think the King of the Oceans should be given a bigger role in the DCU.. He doesnt even show up in any of the pre-Crisis mini's.

[GeorgeG]

Give the current arc a try. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I didn't care for the first few Palmiotti/Gray issues, but they definitely picked it up a few notches.

No thanks. You need to hook me at the outset. I've read enough of their work to tell me I don't care for their writing.

[Animation]

I'm kinda confused about Hawkman. I know he has one of the most bungled and/or confusing histories in the DCU, but I thought they did some weird thing where all the Hawkmans ever were reincarnating aspects of the same Eternal Champion ... I mean Eternal Hawkman. :) At least thats what I had heard. I have never followed DC closely but I recently jumped in and bought all the JSA (modern) trades and the Hawkman that returns in TPB #3 seems the amalgamated version with all the memories of all of them. But I'm not sure.

What exactly is the state of Hawkman in DC now? Is the Infinite Crisis (or whatever it is that is coming up) going to change it again?

Thanks,

Lewis

[jadrax]

Hawkman is always a good read and is a very underappreciated book, but as for DC's most Underappreciated book I think Aquaman has it beat. Its seems to me that even DC doesn't appreciate this book or this character. I think the King of the Oceans should be given a bigger role in the DCU.. He doesnt even show up in any of the pre-Crisis mini's.
Sadly, Aquaman has image problems that I don't think will ever go away now.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Hawkman is one of those comics that I checked out on a lark a few months ago and hooked me immediately. This comic is so deliciously over-the-top with sex and violence, I eagerly await each issue.

Strangely, Bennet's art is a thousand times better here than in Birds of Prey. Perhaps its the inking.

[hondobrode]

No thanks. You need to hook me at the outset. I've read enough of their work to tell me I don't care for their writing.

I have not cared for anything else by them, but they are doing good work on Hawkman.

Really

[Pennyghost]

I HATED their initial issues. But I liked the whole big villain conspiracy arc they had going on. Some very creative stuff.

So, they are fine in my book now.

The only thing I still dislike is that they ruined the whole Hawkman/Hawkgirl relationship. By having them do a 180 degree turn from what it was when the book started out. Before it was Hawkgirl being uncomfortable with the idea of them having a relationship and feeling the pressure. With Hawkman hoping that she'll eventually come around. Now it's all slutty Hawkgirl throwing herself at Carter and him playing the honourable one and rejecting her. I found it much more interesting the other way around.

[Endless Flight]

I've been reading Hawkman since about issue #22 or so. I've enjoyed it so far, but I've been worried lately that it's going to be cancelled, since I've noticed sales dipping near 20,000/month. Hopefully DC doesn't pull the plug. The series is only getting better.

[The Joker]

I've just only recently taken an interest in Hawkman. Which is due to his appearances in "Identity Crisis". Began picking up the title with issue #40, and have been fairly happy with the book thus far. As it seems to me like Hawkman is starting to slowly pick up steam.

Hopefully it doesnt get cancelled. :evilangry

[ExoKnight]

Hawkman is definately one of DC gems that doesn't get the numbers other titles do. The series has been very good since the start.