How would you like for the Acolytes to return?

[Nobbel]

The Acolytes has always been a great group of villains. Since Cassandra did send those sentinels to Genosha we never heared anything about them. No one knows if they live or not and no writer seems to pick this up.

How would you like for the Acolytes to return?

Who should have survived and who shouln't?

If it was up to me: Scanner, Amelia, Katu, Uniscione, Cargill, Vindaloo and Neophyte will survive and led by Amelia they will turn to Magneto again.

Another team with Senyaka, Spoor, Mellencamp, Rem Ram, Static, the Kleinstock brothers, Gargouille, and one or two new characters, led by Fabian Cortez will be a horrible bad team.

Others like Barnacle, Rakkes, Projector, Kamal, will not have survived the attack.

Both of these team will see Xavier as the one to blame because his sister did it.

[Tag06]

love the Acolytes!

[Christopher O]

I'd rather they didn't return, unless they are mostly new/different characters, as I only really enjoyed Cargill and Exodus from that group.

[The Lucky One]

A couple of them were interesting characters (Voight, Neophyte, Cortez, etc.), but the majority never showed much personality and didn't contribute much to the X-Men mythos. As someone who started reading with Fatal Attractions, you'd think I would be more attached to all that 90s stuff, but I'm just not... I can't really get worked up about the Acolytes one way or another. Sorry.

-D

[Expletive Deleted]

I liked maybe two of them. The rest were ciphers in silly costumes.

If we really need to see the team again, I'd say a total revamp is in order.

[Faded]

I would have Unuscione, Scanner, Voght, Neophyte, and Cargill return.

I'd like to see them emerge from hiding after escaping Genosha's attack, and slowly realize they were misguided (much harder for some than others). A really character driven mini would be in order. Whether they end up staying villians or on the verge of reformation, I have no preference.

[Nyssane]

I'd like to see them return and find out Magneto is still alive. Voght, Cargill, and Unuscione are must-haves, and it'd be nice to see Neophyte, Scanner, and the Kleinstock Brothers again since they were the most interesting second-tier Acolytes. Cortez should stay dead, though. And Exodus should have nothing to do with them since he's gone crazy and led the lame Brotherhood. I just want to see them again, it'd be quite nostalgic.

[Flight]

In a shroud of mystery...!

[jcp011c]

Some of them would be fine. I think the Fabian Cortez storyline played out well to the end, and his end was befitting his character. Amelia Vought? I think it's time for her to move on to something different, but bring her back from limbo, yes. Her ideologies have changed, as shown in Eve Of Destruction.
Exodus is part of the Brotherhood, if he's still alive, so bringing him back as a member of this would almost be a reversion to type of the character.
Wouldn't mind seeing Unuscione, Cargill, Katu, Scanner and Senyaka return, maybe as more of a mutant bounty hunter team. . Really, these five and the above three were the "heart" of that team, and the rest seem to fade into obscurity for me.

[Nyssane]

Senyaka and Katu didn't seem to have much personality to me. Cargill, Voght, Scanner, Unuscione, the Kleinstocks, and Neophyte seemed to be the most focused of the Acolytes. (not including Cortez or Exodus)

[Erik Lehnsherr]

It seems nobody around here wants anybody to return(Nate Grey, Apocalypse, and some hate the Acolytes too). I guess stimiulating villains like Vargas are more intriguing these days, who knows, but I would love to see Uniscone and Scanner back in some capacity. Exodus should also be living in Genosha once the House of M empire is done with their agenda after the crossover.

[fishtaco]

The Acolytes were alright. I really hated when editors said that Exodus has resseurecting powers when some Acolytes came back from the dead without explanation. Gross continuity cover-up.

Anyway, since they were all most likely killed on Genosha, I prefer if they dont come back. If they are to stay in character, they would have stayed with Magneto on Genosha till the bitter end.

Are there any Acolytes that werent on Genosha (besides Colossus and Skids obviously) that are still alive? Since I want Magneto to rejoin the X-men and become the headmaster of the New Mutants, it would be interesting to see how the Acolytes would react. They would be torn between their loyalty to Magneto himself, and their loyalty to Magneto's goals of mutant superiority. It would be cool if Exodus took up the mantle as the new champion of mutant supremecy. Would they follow him, or try to bring back Magneto to them? I'd love to read it. :)

[dotdotdot]

i think outside of xmen 1-3 the whole acolytes thing should just be ignored

[jcp011c]

Are there any Acolytes that werent on Genosha (besides Colossus and Skids obviously) that are still alive? :)


I'm pretty sure Amelia Vought left after Eve Of Destruction, as well as Cargill during the same storyline. Exodus was shown in the adjectiveless X-Men as a member of the Brotherhood.
Neophyte and Scanner both seemed to have disagreements with the methods he Acolytes were working towards, so it's feasible they may have not been with the group any longer (even though it never showed them leaving, per se.)
Beyond that, I'd have to guess everyone else was most likely killed in Genosha.

[streator]

i don't see a point for them anymore, really. unless magneto is in need of followers, most of the acolytes are useless.

[xakko]

i don't see a point for them anymore, really. unless magneto is in need of followers, most of the acolytes are useless.

As a concept, no. A Relgion of Magneto strained credulity- Mags himself, as arrogant as he could be, should probably think less of someone for that sort of attitude. He always treated the sycophantic Toad poorly.

But I enjoyed many of the characters, and would like to see them return as enemies, or maybe better, rivals to the X-men. People have talked about having a non-evil alternative to Xavier's children, and Voght and Cargill and Scanner would be great places to start. A PLO or Sinn Fein, if you will.

[streator]

As a concept, no. A Relgion of Magneto strained credulity- Mags himself, as arrogant as he could be, should probably think less of someone for that sort of attitude. He always treated the sycophantic Toad poorly.

But I enjoyed many of the characters, and would like to see them return as enemies, or maybe better, rivals to the X-men. People have talked about having a non-evil alternative to Xavier's children, and Voght and Cargill and Scanner would be great places to start. A PLO or Sinn Fein, if you will.
i do not see a point for the "acolytes" as a concept, i should clarify. i like scanner, vindaloo, voight, others... i was just answering to the question of this thread (should/how the acolytes((group)) return) and did not see a point for their re-emergence.

[wilsonRfrost]

I would have Unuscione, Scanner, Voght, Neophyte, and Cargill return.

I'd like to see them emerge from hiding after escaping Genosha's attack, and slowly realize they were misguided (much harder for some than others). A really character driven mini would be in order. Whether they end up staying villians or on the verge of reformation, I have no preference

i always thought that after the genosha thing they should return the acloytes back saying that emilia teleported all the cool charcters and now is permanantly mist and they seek xavier's help...

it's so obvious with vought powers... i can even have it that she saved magneto from the sentinal coliding his tower...

but no... :(

[Dizzy D]

Senyaka and Katu didn't seem to have much personality to me. Cargill, Voght, Scanner, Unuscione, the Kleinstocks, and Neophyte seemed to be the most focused of the Acolytes. (not including Cortez or Exodus)

Katu got quite a bit of development in the Cable-series where Cable teams up with the Acolytes to stop Omega Red. Sennyaka appeared as a solo-villain in Cable as well, but there was not much done with him personality-wise.

[Tetrachromatic]

Have Magneto hire Mr. Sinister to travel back in time to the Biblical Era, kidnap the apostles of Jesus, take them into the far future and augment them with mutant abilities. Also, he can toss in some memory implants to convince the Apostlytes that Magneto is their messiah. Wackiness ensues.

Written by Chuck Austen, pencils by Rob Liefeld, inks by a dog with vicious diarrhea.

[Flight]

Have Magneto hire Mr. Sinister to travel back in time to the Biblical Era, kidnap the apostles of Jesus, take them into the far future and augment them with mutant abilities. Also, he can toss in some memory implants to convince the Apostlytes that Magneto is their messiah. Wackiness ensues.

Written by Chuck Austen, pencils by Rob Liefeld, inks by a dog with vicious diarrhea. Forget Austen... they should put YOU on an X-Book!

[Alphaxman]

I just don’t think any team of villains work sense the 80’s with the Hell Fire Club, the Marauders and Freedom Force. The writers of the 90’s just didn’t give any depth with the characters. I think the only way these characters would work would be the give each character a distinctive personality and back ground history. Their concept was good but it was just no meat to them. Plus they would have to give the X-men a run for their money. That’s another thing that was good about the 80’s. It was never an easy win for the good guys. The only problem the X-men had was against the big guns like Magneto, Apocalypse, and Mr. Sinister.

[mattbib]

I also have no desire to see the Acolytes as a group again. Just let them have all died in the destruction of Genosha. Though, I wouldn't mind Scanner, Unuscione, Cargill, or Neophyte having survived.

[Blackcat]

I think it also depens on who did write most of the Acolytes stories (who was that?) When that writer will write one of the books again for a longer time, they maybe will reappear. But there are no hints given in that direction at all so far. So I think no-one will get the answer any day soon.

I would like Vought, Scanner, Cargill, Vindaloo, Senyaka Neopythe and Uniscione to be the survivors.

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[Faded]

Speaking of which, I now totally see Nyssy's *special views* about the Kleinstocks.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3271/quicksilver0134bs1.jpg http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6532/quicksilver0127du5.jpg

(from Quicksilver #1)

Anyway, I'd like to see their cast streamlined (though of course with all of *my* favorite characters :rolleyes) and develop them more as characters instead of a large army. For all my depowered homies out there, get Exodus or somebody to do something. Ugh and not Apocalypse. Make em mutants again.

[brundlefly]

As a concept, no. A Relgion of Magneto strained credulity- Mags himself, as arrogant as he could be, should probably think less of someone for that sort of attitude. He always treated the sycophantic Toad poorly.

I strongly agree with you on that; the Acolytes were initially just an accessory to the unfortunate storyline changeover of Magneto from Malcolm X-type figure to 'mutant messiah'/cult leader. I liked a few of them, like Fabian Cortez (the 'judas'), Voight, and Exodus, but the rest were just a bunch of identically-dressed jobbers with little individuality. If any of the specific characters who made up the Acolytes return, it should be in new roles. Mags thankfully isn't doing the 'mad messiah' thing anymore, so their one-dimensional devotion to worshipping him is outdated and unnecessary. They could go looking for a new "religion," though, and that could prove to be interesting.

[Nyssane]

Speaking of which, I now totally see Nyssy's *special views* about the Kleinstocks.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3271/quicksilver0134bs1.jpg http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6532/quicksilver0127du5.jpg

(from Quicksilver #1)

Anyway, I'd like to see their cast streamlined (though of course with all of *my* favorite characters :rolleyes) and develop them more as characters instead of a large army. For all my depowered homies out there, get Exodus or somebody to do something. Ugh and not Apocalypse. Make em mutants again.

I told you! Those Kleinstocks are kinky mofo's.

I just don’t think any team of villains work sense the 80’s with the Hell Fire Club, the Marauders and Freedom Force. The writers of the 90’s just didn’t give any depth with the characters. I think the only way these characters would work would be the give each character a distinctive personality and back ground history. Their concept was good but it was just no meat to them. Plus they would have to give the X-men a run for their money. That’s another thing that was good about the 80’s. It was never an easy win for the good guys. The only problem the X-men had was against the big guns like Magneto, Apocalypse, and Mr. Sinister.

Umm, the Hellfire Club was so limited in its members that it couldn't help BUT be developed. Beyond Sebastian Shaw, White Queen, Leland, and Pierce, there hasn't been much to do with the Hellfire Club. The Marauders having depth? You've got to be kidding me. They're a group of personality-less murderers that never really showed much thought about anything. And Freedom Force only had a few members that really shone, such as Mystique, Pyro, Destiny, Avalanche, and Blob. The others suffered from lack of personality, such as Super Sabre and Stonewall.

Really, I think the Acolytes (at least, the most important ones) had way more personality than those three groups ever have. People are just using the "90's = bad" excuse.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Scanner, Unsicone, Skids, and Rusty were just as fun to read about as Exodus and Amelia Voght. Sorry, haters of the 90s.

[Christopher O]

People are just using the "90's = bad" excuse.
Sorry, haters of the 90s.
But...the 90's were bad!?!? :confused: ;)

[twilight]

I'd like for them to return momentarily and then be squashed by a previously undetected meteorite.

Leave those losers in the 90's where they belong.

[Nyssane]

Scanner, Unsicone, Skids, and Rusty were just as fun to read about as Exodus and Amelia Voght. Sorry, haters of the 90s.

Yes, but Cargill is more interesting than all of those. Combined.

I'd like for them to return momentarily and then be squashed by a previously undetected meteorite.

Leave those losers in the 90's where they belong.

The only LOSER that belongs in the 90's is... yo mama.

[o1pickleboy]

I personally liked the 90's, but now in hidesight I understand they were extreme on everything.


As for the Acolytes, I believe that they need to be the anti X-men to suceed this time around. Each one of them being as important as each indivual X-Men is. That means orgins, full personality developement, some spotlights, and not using them as cannon fodder. If all these things are used and followed the Acolytes would be cool and remain strong X-Villians for the long hual.

Oh year, and make them more than genetic villians. Show reasons why they believe in Mags way over Xaviers.

[twilight]

The only LOSER that belongs in the 90's is... yo mama.

My mother's dead.

[Pro]

My mother's dead.

Guess that'll keep her firmly buried in the 90's then ... anyway ...

The acolytes were okay, they could probably do without Magneto and instead follow Exodus who suffered far more from the Messiah complex than Magneto ever did. I mean common even his name has a biblical ring.

Either that or have them led by Quicksilver who again suffers far more from the Messiah complex as Magneto ever did over at X-factor. Could be a good storyhook to bring back some depowered acolytes. "You wish to have your powers back, fine but you'll follow me from now on".

I'd like them to explore the possibilty of recreating a mutant homeland in light of the many disasters that befell the mutant race. With some of them still believing in mutant superiority and others simply wanting a new home but reliant on Exodus to find and collect the mutants or endebted to quicksilver for returning their powers it could make for good storytelling.

Use flashbacks to fill in the blanks on the characters, explaining why they follow either one of the two as leaders.Put them in morally ambiguous situations and let the characters deal with them in their own particular fashion.

Make it a mini series or even an ongoing one.

[Zombienorthstar]

Id live to see them reinvisioned...maybe as actual mutant terroists. Make them an actual threat, blowing up buildings, attacking innocent civilians. Draw some real comparisons between them and some real life fundamentalists.

[Faded]

The 90's were so not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. But that's just me. ;)

I really wish the Acolytes would've been touched upon in Excalibur (Genosha). I really wish that series co-starred Scanner, Cargill, and company instead of Book, Broadband, that president guy, Karima, Hub, Hack, Purge, Archangel, and Husk (I like the latter two but this book seemed like they were just random additions).

[DMike]

I'd like for them to return momentarily and then be squashed by a previously undetected meteorite.

Leave those losers in the 90's where they belong.

Ironic coming from someone with a Slapstick avatar. :D

[Matthew K.]

The Acolytes has always been a great group of villains. Since Cassandra did send those sentinels to Genosha we never heared anything about them. No one knows if they live or not and no writer seems to pick this up.

How would you like for the Acolytes to return?


in the most awesome f*%$ing way possible!!
(sorry the post isn't elaborated on...i'm intoxicated)