X-Man/Nate Grey Petition & Website

[HarmonicFlo]

www.nategrey.r8.org to view the newest, best and democratic [open to suggestions] website for X-Man.

www.petitiononline.com/NateGrey to sign the petition to Marvel Comics to bring Nate Back to the Marvel Universe.

[ibrakeforchinwe]

I never really liked X Man but it was probably cuz I didnt like any of the artist that drew him, except that one Alan Davis issue.

I'm sure he'll come back sooner or later.

[MrBiggs7]

Let's start a petition to make sure he never comes back. He was a sweet kid but some of that stuff with madelyn confused me.

[The Lucky One]

So are you guys calling yourselves "N.E.A.T." or what?

Admire the effort, but have to agree with Biggs... Nate's never done it for me. That said, I have no doubt he'll be back someday; he is an X-Man, after all.

(And no offense intended, but you might want to proofread that petition before you send it on over to Marvel.)

-D

[Michael P]

Speaking just from a pragmatic point of view, you'd have better luck standing on a corner in front of Marvel's offices dressed like Nate and holding a sign that says "Bring me back!"

[Steven F.]

The petition is kinda funny......"millions of fans will be happy"...ok, maybe lots of fans, but millions? Not so much. I liked him though. :)

[The Lucky One]

Millions of people don't even read comics these days... not superhero comics, anyway, and I doubt a single issue of X-Man sold anywhere near a million. Again, not trying to make fun of this guy, just suggesting he tone down the hyperbole a bit... I mean, 100% of the people who've ever read about Nate Grey want him back? I don't, so guess it's just 99.9999999999%.

-D

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Let's start a petition to make sure he never comes back. He was a sweet kid but some of that stuff with madelyn confused me.

Nah. Let's start one to get rid of that boring abomination in the "Cable and Deadpool" that wastes space.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

Heh, I know most minds here are made up already, but how about bringing him back as a villain? He's got the power level to be a real threat, and it wouldn't be hard to see him develop some kind of God complex...?

[Crimson]

Can I ask, as this topic will be filled with X-Man fans... what’s so good about X-Man?

Now, I've got X-Man #-1-5, 53-54 and from what I've read he wasn't bad but how come every few weeks I always seem to someone wanting him back?

Did I miss the part that made him awesome? Should I try and collect the full run? Is he really as good as the mourning fans say he is?

[Ryan K]

I've read every issue of X-Man. All 75 issues, the -1 issue, the two annuals, and All Saint's Day. And I can honestly say I never want to see the character ever again.

I found absolutely nothing interesting about the character. He was far too powerful, cocky, arrogant, selfish and in many ways immoral. I truly found him to be an unlikable character. None of the storylines in the book were very interesting to me. Threnody was as bad a character as Nate IMO. The whole Madelyne stuff was extremely poor and very confusing. The title meandered for about 30 issues in the middle, going absolutely nowhere with really nothing to say.

I did kind of like the Counter X stuff. It tried to make sense of the whole Madelyne stuff and kind of suceeded and I thought it was pretty interesting to try and make it a sort of Vertigoesque X-book. Still, too little too late.

I'm genuinely very curious if there is anybody out there who truly likes Nate Grey and more importantly the X-Man book, who wasn't young when they read them. Not to diminish your opinion of him if you liked the book when you were young, but generally speaking people don't have great taste when they're 12 and nostalgia holds a mighty firm grip on people. Anybody? I'd love to hear an intelligent opinion for the book and character.

[Titan Slade]

Let's start a petition to make sure he never comes back.

I'll sign this one.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Heh, I know most minds here are made up already, but how about bringing him back as a villain? He's got the power level to be a real threat, and it wouldn't be hard to see him develop some kind of God complex...?

I said this last year. Bring him back to be a Avengers villian. He CERTAINLY has the power level due to his Shaman makeover. With him being vilfied, it could explain his whearabouts and reveal his new goals.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

I've read every issue of X-Man. All 75 issues, the -1 issue, the two annuals, and All Saint's Day. And I can honestly say I never want to see the character ever again.

I found absolutely nothing interesting about the character. He was far too powerful, cocky, arrogant, selfish and in many ways immoral. I truly found him to be an unlikable character. None of the storylines in the book were very interesting to me. Threnody was as bad a character as Nate IMO. The whole Madelyne stuff was extremely poor and very confusing. The title meandered for about 30 issues in the middle, going absolutely nowhere with really nothing to say.

I did kind of like the Counter X stuff. It tried to make sense of the whole Madelyne stuff and kind of suceeded and I thought it was pretty interesting to try and make it a sort of Vertigoesque X-book. Still, too little too late.

I'm genuinely very curious if there is anybody out there who truly likes Nate Grey and more importantly the X-Man book, who wasn't young when they read them. Not to diminish your opinion of him if you liked the book when you were young, but generally speaking people don't have great taste when they're 12 and nostalgia holds a mighty firm grip on people. Anybody? I'd love to hear an intelligent opinion for the book and character.

I can say the same thing about plenty of comics. Superman, Wolverine, and ANYTHING with Cable involved. Some of the most uninspiring and boring one dimensional stories in comic history. Especially the whole "nobody can beat Superman" or "Wolverine can survive fights with Magneto, Apocalypse, or Thanos" thing that's been going on for years. I love Nate Grey. He came from a different world and had reason not to want to get mixed up with Xavier and the X-Men since he and he alone knew from the moment he got on earth that Xavier was as twisted as Apocalypse was thanks to him trying to play savior and take out Magneto in the Fatal Attractions finale. Nate knew he had that "Onslaught" darkness in him when he encountered him in X-Man #10 and that just pushed his distrust of the 616 X-Men. He wanted to believe the best in Rogue but after she made a joke about her not being married to Magneto, he didn't buy it. You would have to actually read where he came from and not be some overt X-Men fanboy who likes to see them be heroes in every situation understand the Nate book.

[Ryan K]

I can say the same thing about plenty of comics. Superman, Wolverine, and ANYTHING with Cable involved. Some of the most uninspiring and boring one dimensional stories in comic history. Especially the whole "nobody can beat Superman" or "Wolverine can survive fights with Magneto, Apocalypse, or Thanos" thing that's been going on for years. I love Nate Grey. He came from a different world and had reason not to want to get mixed up with Xavier and the X-Men since he and he alone knew from the moment he got on earth that Xavier was as twisted as Apocalypse was thanks to him trying to play savior and take out Magneto in the Fatal Attractions finale. Nate knew he had that "Onslaught" darkness in him when he encountered him in X-Man #10 and that just pushed his distrust of the 616 X-Men. He wanted to believe the best in Rogue but after she made a joke about her not being married to Magneto, he didn't buy it. You would have to actually read where he came from and not be some overt X-Men fanboy who likes to see them be heroes in every situation understand the Nate book.

Whoa there tiger. I didn't insult you or the fans of the book and character when I tried to make my point. At least I certainly didn't try to.

I think it was a poorly written series all around. You don't. I disagree with most of your points. I can completely see where Nate was coming from but the angsty angle really ran out of steam after he was shown 1000 times that these X-Men could be trusted. After awhile he came across as a brat to me. Plain and simple. And as far as I'm concerned, the creators did nothing within 63 issues + to change that.

[Gingold]

The Steven Grant/Ariel Oliveti issues were pretty cool, but that had much more to do with the creators than the character, who I always thought was pretty boring and whiney. But we all have our favorites, so good luck with the petition.

[Nightcrawler]

He's alright, I wouldn't care if he was back or not. Not signing the petition.

[streator]

i liked some of his series, didn't buy the majority of it though.
i prefer to have him not come back.
i don't think anything is missing with him being gone.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Whoa there tiger. I didn't insult you or the fans of the book and character when I tried to make my point. At least I certainly didn't try to.

I think it was a poorly written series all around. You don't. I disagree with most of your points. I can completely see where Nate was coming from but the angsty angle really ran out of steam after he was shown 1000 times that these X-Men could be trusted. After awhile he came across as a brat to me. Plain and simple. And as far as I'm concerned, the creators did nothing within 63 issues + to change that.

Gotcha. Pretty much the same way I feel about the overdone stories in Wolverine and Cable.

[jetter_cheeze]

I'm genuinely very curious if there is anybody out there who truly likes Nate Grey and more importantly the X-Man book, who wasn't young when they read them. Not to diminish your opinion of him if you liked the book when you were young, but generally speaking people don't have great taste when they're 12 and nostalgia holds a mighty firm grip on people. Anybody? I'd love to hear an intelligent opinion for the book and character.


I liked him when i was younger, and picked up the entire series when i got back into x-comics a few years ago. Upon re-reading everything, the counter X-books was the first time i thought that Nate showed potential of where he could go as a character and what positive direction his comic book could go in.

(the constant oh i have my power now i don't now i do again got old quick.)

I believe that the right writer could come back and send the book into a much more positive direction with the Shaman aspect of Nate being explored more deeply. Philisophical issues could be a principal aspect and conflict that the character could go through with others. Imagine Exiles, but on a more serious note.

After Nate would regroup himself after being spread throughout the world, i think it wopuld give him a deeper perspective on life and why he should/shouldn't help people. Placing him on a different world would allow him the chance to explore these ideas in a different, more extreme manner than he would on 616 Earth.


...and i just want to see how he would deal with the Phoenix force. Is he a part of it? Is he more powerful than it? Would they be in conflict, etc....

[Headhunter]

Speaking just from a pragmatic point of view, you'd have better luck standing on a corner in front of Marvel's offices dressed like Nate and holding a sign that says "Bring me back!"
I'd pay good money to see that!

[mastaflan]

I would have signed this petition two years ago. This was because I always liked X-Man over Cable back then. But ever since Fabian made Cable cool in Cable & Deadpool, I don't really care if Nate Grey ever shows up again.

Unless....

1. He comes back to take the role of Stryfe which the Avengers would have to deal with. Or...

2. His adventures take him in Space where he deals with intergalactic issues. Or...

3. He is in the Negative Zone as a guardian protecting The rest of the Marvel universe from the creeps in that aspect. Or....

4. He shows up in the pages of Supreme Powers somewhere down the line to pull a reverse Sentry kind of thing. Where the Sentry is this what if Superman was in the Marvel Universe thing While What if this uber powerful Marvel Character was in the DC universe. Or...

5. He returns to the Age of Apocalypse and we read his further adventures...

[Alan2099]

I like the guy because he pretty much came from hell and was out and enjoying himself in his new world, while still constantly screwing up because people don't act the same way here.

He pretty much went around just doing what he want. It wasn't because he was a huge jerk, he was a decent guy, it's just that his world had a completley different set of values taught to him.

He was super powerful, but he didn't care about any of the main superhero issues and was almost oblivious to the typical mutant racism angle.

I wasn't too fond of the shaman twist. It wasn't poorly written, but it seemed like a completley new character.

[phoenixV]

Some of X-Man was great, but the issues with Madelyn ruined X-Man for me. Maybe he could return in a limited series or alternate universe sort of fashion, but there's Cable, there doesn't need to be X-Man.