View Full Version : 9 years today since Mark Gruenwald died (12 august 1996)
Stephane Garrelie
08-12-2005, 06:24 AM
Nine years today since Mark Gruenwald died of a heart attack the 12 august 1996. He was one of the best editor and often a very good writer.
My first Mark Gruenwald story was Spiderwoman #13 Shroud/Nekra part.1 (or maybe was it issue #14 Shroud/Nekra part 2, I read it in the french Nova n°46(Lug)-the one whith spiderwoman and the Shroud on the cover)
He did very good stories on Marvel two in one (project/pegasus, etc...)
He wrote and did the art on the Hawkeye mini.
He wrote Supreme Squadron
He did some very good stories on Captain America, like "Streets of poison"
He was the writer of Quasar.
He edited Claremont's last issue and the Ann Nocenti run on Spiderwoman and many other series.
He was the assistant of EIC Tom Defalco.
He is missed
ChildOfTheDarkholde
08-12-2005, 06:35 AM
Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme rules forever, man!
Still the best SS stories yet...nobody else can touch Gruenwald when it comes to the Squadron...
His Spider-Woman run (starting at # 7 )was amazing IMO...he introduced some of my fave SW villains like Gypsy Moth and Waxman, and he wrote my favorite comic book battle bar none;Nekra vs Spider-Woman in issue # 16...
He is certainly missed.
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Michael P
08-12-2005, 07:15 AM
Didn't realize it had been 9 years already.
Gruenwald was the freakin' man. A great editor, a great Marvel man, and by all accounts a very cool guy. The industry is lesser for his loss.
*renews resolution to read Squadron Supreme*
Metamorpho
08-12-2005, 07:32 AM
I really miss the Grue. Rest in peace Mark.
Dial Tone
08-12-2005, 08:04 AM
He's definitely missed. :( I remember how shocked I was when I heard of his death, because he was so young. He was the best editor I've ever seen. A Gruenwald edited book meant a great writer, penciler, and inker, who didn't miss deadlines, and stuck around long enough to matter.
His Captain America is fondly remembered. It started off a little slowly, but when he got rolling, he did some awesome definitive stuff. Unfortunately, the quality quickly spiraled downward after Ron Lim left the title.
I enjoyed his Squadron Supreme very much, too. If more editors, like Tom Brevoort, followed Gru's example, Marvel would be much better off.
thik_3rd
08-12-2005, 09:51 AM
peep the avatar. rest in peace.
Bruce Wayne Jr.
08-12-2005, 10:11 AM
Next year, how bout a commemorative hardcover Squad book? It's supposedly Mark's favorite work, and one of Marvel's finest series.
jemini169
08-12-2005, 11:06 AM
I definite miss Gruenwald. I am a huge Squadron Supreme fan and I absolutely loved D.P.7 from the New Universe run. I know Marvel truly misses him from a historical aspect as he was the source of much of the Offical Handbook of the Marvel Universe.
Stephane Garrelie
08-12-2005, 06:43 PM
With all the current stuff about Spiderwoman, we can hope for an Essential Spiderwoman. Since Mark Gruenwald wrote issues 9 to 20. Essential Spiderwoman Vol.1 should include his run as a writer. :cool:
ChildOfTheDarkholde
08-12-2005, 07:13 PM
With all the current stuff about Spiderwoman, we can hope for an Essential Spiderwoman. Since Mark Gruenwald wrote issues 9 to 20. Essential Spiderwoman Vol.1 should include his run as a writer. :cool:
There will be an Essential Spider-Woman. Comes out December 21.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0785117938/qid=1123895219/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8452857-2905558?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Before she was an Avenger, she was... a Hydra agent?! Witness the Arachnidian Adventuress's dire debut against Nick Fury, agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. - and a follow-up arc alongside the ever-lovin', blue-eyed Thing! After working a few bugs out of her origin, she set up shop in California and faced an array of eccentric enemies rarely equaled to this day! Includes the introduction of several characters by the late great Mark Gruenwald! Featuring Shang-Chi, the Werewolf by Night, the Shroud, Invisible Woman, Mordred The Mystic,Nekra, Morgan le Fay and more! Collects Marvel Spotlight #32, Marvel Two-In-One #29-33 and Spider-Woman #1-15.
Product Details
* Paperback: 568 pages
* Publisher: Marvel Comics (December 21, 2005)
* Language: English
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Calamas
08-12-2005, 08:08 PM
I’m a lifelong DC fan, so I remember clearly the day I read of Mark Gruenwald death. He was the one Marvel staffer--at the time--for whom I had respect. Bear in mind, I am talking about during and the aftermath of the Jim Shooter era, where even Marvel fans felt everything the company told them was bull. Gruenwald, however, spoke to the fan--through letter columns--and he spoke honestly. Or as honestly as possible. Even if you didn’t agree with him--as in the case of removal of Roger Stern from the Avengers--at least he explained it. He didn’t just ignore it and move on. He treated the reader as an extension of Marvel Comics, an important part of the cycle that produces comics. While every creator in the business knows that the reader is necessary, they often forget to acknowledge us as so, unless it's at a personal appearance.
Not Mark. There are only a handful of others--Mike Gold and Mark Evanier come to mind--who can communicate that kind of honesty in something as brief as a letter column.
If Mark Gruenwald were still with us, he’d still be doing it today.
C.O. Jones
08-13-2005, 12:28 AM
Does anyone own the original SS collection with his cremated remains?
The Shadow
08-13-2005, 09:57 AM
I loved Gru's Cap stories (at the end they went downhill a bit) and was sad when he died. I didn't realize it had been 9 years already!
He is missed.
ChildOfTheDarkholde
08-13-2005, 10:01 AM
Does anyone own the original SS collection with his cremated remains?
WHAT THE...???? :eek: :mad:
Stephane Garrelie
08-13-2005, 10:59 AM
Does anyone own the original SS collection with his cremated remains?If there's some ref that I don't understand you should explain yourself mister. Like it is it seems very ofensive.
But maybe it's some ref to one of Mark Gruenwald's joke? someone on the JB forum said that "[He]'s one of the fan to which [Mark Gruenwald] entrusted the care of his remains: [He] own one of the Supreme Squadron trade.
And thanks to John Byrne to who I/we owe to be aware of this sad aniversary. Fans of Mark Gruenwald, take the time to read this whole thread it's worth of it.
www.Byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7247&PN=2&totPosts=50
Calamas
08-13-2005, 11:18 AM
If there's some ref that I don't understand you should explain yourself mister. Like it is it seems very ofensive.
You can skip to the last paragraph.
Click and Read (http://www.socioweb.com/sociology-books/book/078510576X)
Sir Tim Drake
08-13-2005, 11:28 AM
*salutes* Rest in peace, Gru. We miss you.
Stephane Garrelie
08-13-2005, 11:33 AM
You can skip to the last paragraph.
Click and Read (http://www.socioweb.com/sociology-books/book/078510576X)
Thank you. I had totaly forgoten about this (that I had already read some months ago). I thought there was some ref cause of the post of the other fan on the JB forum (see the link in my previous post), but i really didn't remember the "ink" thing. I thought it was some joke by Mark on one of his collumns or at a conf panel.
Anyway it's a good thing for new or forgetful fans that you posted this.
C.O. Jones: The ref without the explanation could have been misinterpreted.
Agentum
10-05-2006, 12:19 AM
Does anyone own the original SS collection with his cremated remains?
I don't know if that was the original trade, but it was the one after he has died.
And to people that not know they mixed his asches with the ink when printing those trades, they are not that uncommon, that was his own wish as he was so proud over that work.
StoneGold
10-05-2006, 12:48 AM
Mark Gruenwald got me into comics.
Serious, the first book I started reading regularly was his Captain America, at the beginning of the Captain arc. And for several years, he was one of my favorite writers. Sadly, towards the end he wrote some really bad comics. I don't know if it was just burnout, or impending death, or a combination of the two, but he wrote some really embarrassingly bad stories towards the end of his life. But just a few years earlier, he wrote some really killer stuff.
And I have the 1st edition TPB of Squadron Supreme with the ashes. And the packet from the get together at the first San Diego after his death. I never met him, but he had an impact on me.
Hombre
10-05-2006, 01:27 AM
Maybe it's just me, liking this sort of delicately woven tales in the vein of Marvel's long tradition of humanizing the characters irrespective of how they may end up being labeled as in the chess board of life.
But I seriously believe this strangely foreshadowing comic was a fitting parting word from him and a real nice story.
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Sean Walsh
10-05-2006, 08:30 AM
I don't know if that was the original trade, but it was the one after he has died.
And to people that not know they mixed his asches with the ink when printing those trades, they are not that uncommon, that was his own wish as he was so proud over that work.
The first-ever SS trade was done after Gru died. I forget if Gru knew they'd be doing a trade before he died or if he just put in his will "If you guys ever do one, my ashes are in the ink!"
I believe I have that trade, too; and I'm never getting rid of it.
lordlad
10-05-2006, 08:58 AM
yes, his 12 issue Squadron Supreme remains one of my favourite limited series ever.........
phantom1592
10-06-2006, 03:29 PM
I don't know if that was the original trade, but it was the one after he has died.
And to people that not know they mixed his asches with the ink when printing those trades, they are not that uncommon, that was his own wish as he was so proud over that work.
I have never heard of that....
That's .... Pretty creepy actually.:eek:
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