View Full Version : Really sad news....
SoulOnIce
08-09-2005, 08:42 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165171,00.html
I wish her the best. That family has been through so much.
Calybos
08-09-2005, 11:14 AM
Good grief, this family seems to be the gods' designated scapegoat lately.
billdo75
08-09-2005, 11:33 AM
44 years old with lung cancer and never even smoked. Life can be a real bitch sometimes. :(
Arrjay
08-09-2005, 11:51 AM
That's just so incredibly unfortunate. More proof that if there truly is a God he's an asshole who obviously finds humour in the misfortune of others. There is truly nothing one can say to highlight how awful it is that this woman, of all people, has been forced to endure so much. It's just so sad.
That's just so incredibly unfortunate. More proof that if there truly is a God he's an asshole who obviously finds humour in the misfortune of others. There is truly nothing one can say to highlight how awful it is that this woman, of all people, has been forced to endure so much. It's just so sad.
God does have a weird sense of humor, but He is not an evil or spiteful being. God is beyond such human things.
Deathstroke
08-09-2005, 01:19 PM
You'd think they'd have received their allotment of crap already.
DarlingNikki
08-09-2005, 01:28 PM
that sucks sucks SUCKS.
i wonder why some folks seem to get all of the hardships like that? i'll be praying for her and her family as they make their way through yet ANOTHER trial.
SAMAS
08-09-2005, 01:43 PM
Say WHAT? Did Lex Luthor get promoted to God or something?
That's just terrible...
Perry Holley
08-09-2005, 04:39 PM
Geez, did some ancient Reeve from decades ago do something so vile that his line is still paying for it? Sheesh...
Ontir
08-09-2005, 04:40 PM
I was watching Charley Rose last night, which was his memoriam to Peter Jennings. During the show, they discussed the rate of survival of lung cancer, which isn't too damned good. Then, the first thing I hear this morning, is that Dana Reeves has it too. Fairness has obviously left the building. I said a little prayer for her, and asked that she at least get to stay long enough for her son to graduate from High School. His entire childhood has been overshadowed by illnesses and disability before he lost his Dad, he shouldn't have to lose his Mom too, especially so quickly.
God does have a weird sense of humor, but He is not an evil or spiteful being. God is beyond such human things.
"I love you all, but if you're real good, I'll smite your butt!" Yet more reinforcement for my existentialism. At least we can say bad stuff is because the universe doesn't give a crap.
roguespirit
08-09-2005, 04:59 PM
I don't understand how people that don't believe in God suddenly blame God for all things wrong, whilst never giving credit for all things good.
Lets perhaps take an example from the woman in question who seems to brim with positivity. Therein lies thoday's lesson.
Jared
08-09-2005, 05:29 PM
She's not even a smoker! That's just f'ed up beyond words.
I don't understand how people that don't believe in God suddenly blame God for all things wrong, whilst never giving credit for all things good.
Lets perhaps take an example from the woman in question who seems to brim with positivity. Therein lies thoday's lesson.
We don't. Where did I blame God? The problem is that we CAN'T accept the idea that a God that is supposedly all knowing, all powerful and compassionate can inflict suffering on people over and over for no apparant reason. It's lack of blind faith, so we ask "Why, what end can this serve?" in hopes of receiving some answer from those who do believe. It makes that irrational faith seem MORE irrational when death is treated as "part of the plan" in that even pain and death is a "good" thing, because God can't be wrong.
We don't. Where did I blame God? The problem is that we CAN'T accept the idea that a God that is supposedly all knowing, all powerful and compassionate can inflict suffering on people over and over for no apparant reason. It's lack of blind faith, so we ask "Why, what end can this serve?" in hopes of receiving some answer from those who do believe. It makes that irrational faith seem MORE irrational when death is treated as "part of the plan" in that even pain and death is a "good" thing, because God can't be wrong.
You'll be glad to know God did not inflict suffering on us. We wrote the "suffering" in our charts in order to grow spiritually long before we were born. Therefore, you can say we decided our own suffering. We did not even have to chose to be incarnate either. But becoming incarnate on Earth will speed up the spiritual growth for our souls.
You'll be glad to know God did not inflict suffering on us. We wrote the "suffering" in our charts in order to grow spiritually long before we were born. Therefore, you can say we decided our own suffering. We did not even have to chose to be incarnate either. But becoming incarnate on Earth will speed up the spiritual growth for our souls.
And we're unaware of this because? I know I'd prefer my dad to still be around and not die of a heart attack while driving to work... (Hell, his lungs should have been worse off, he smoked for 20 years...) :mad:
And we're unaware of this because? I know I'd prefer my dad to still be around and not die of a heart attack while driving to work... (Hell, his lungs should have been worse off, he smoked for 20 years...) :mad:
If you remembered what Earth is like, you would not want to become incarnate. The amnesia is purposeful. However, you can astral project yourself back to Heaven when you sleep.
Your Dad is still around. You may not see him, but he's still with you.
Everyone is happy in Heaven. Your Dad would tell you not to be so bitter about his death. He would tell you to let go. And be happy for him.
I visited my Granny in Heaven; she was throwing some kind of party. I recognized her because she still looked 78; whereas, everyone else was 30 something in age. The wine tasted like water. And the field was perfect. You'll know your in Heaven when you visit the field of grass & the colors are really rich in detail. Granny also helped the people who died on 9/11 pass over to Heaven. She was one of several spirits help recently deceased reorient to life back in Heaven. How do I know? I was there.
My Granny makes her presence known around the holidays. She often blinks the lights or turns on musical ornaments.
The spiritual lesson is for you. You charted everything. Every detail. Your Dad fulfilled his chart. And you're going to fulfill yours.
If you remembered what Earth is like, you would not want to become incarnate. The amnesia is purposeful. However, you can astral project yourself back to Heaven when you sleep.
Your Dad is still around. You may not see him, but he's still with you.
Everyone is happy in Heaven. Your Dad would tell you not to be so bitter about his death. He would tell you to let go. And be happy for him.
I visited my Granny in Heaven; she was throwing some kind of party. I recognized her because she still looked 78; whereas, everyone else was 30
something in age. The wine tasted like water. And the field was perfect. You'll know your in Heaven when you visit the field of grass & the colors are really rich in detail. Granny also helped the people who died on 9/11 pass over to Heaven. She was one of several spirits help recently deceased reorient to life back in Heaven. How do I know? I was there.
My Granny makes her presence known around the holidays. She often blinks the lights or turns on musical ornaments.
The spiritual lesson is for you. You charted everything. Every detail. Your Dad fulfilled his chart. And you're going to fulfill yours.
Nothing there that I can't easily attribute to you dreaming or seeing more than is really there in mundane events (blinking lights aren't batteries, it's dead folks!).
It's a case where someone who sees this stuff in their life can't MAKE someone else understand, just as someone who doesn't, but has other beliefs, can't make him understand that.
SAMAS
08-10-2005, 12:22 PM
I don't understand how people that don't believe in God suddenly blame God for all things wrong, whilst never giving credit for all things good.
Possibly in reaction to those who always claim that everything is part of His "plan", except, of course, for the bad stuff. Either that, or they claim it as a good thing that our puny little minds can't comprehend the true goodness of the terrible thing that just happened. :rolleyes:
Me, I think that things just happen, bad or good, and don't blame anybody unless their hand in it is evident(and no, I'm not talking statistics).
Hiromi
08-10-2005, 12:34 PM
I missed the part of the bible that stated everything would be perfect and bad things only happen to bad people.
When its your time to go its your time to go. Cancer isn't one of those things that always has a direct reason you can blame. I do feel sorry for Mrs. Reeves and her family though.
Arrjay
08-10-2005, 12:55 PM
God does have a weird sense of humor, but He is not an evil or spiteful being. God is beyond such human things.
Perhaps you'd have a point friend, if said God actually existed.
Petersen
08-10-2005, 01:09 PM
It is sad. and saddest for her son, who already lost a parent and knows what type of long suffering and struggles having an ill parent can be.
Arrjay
08-10-2005, 01:12 PM
It is sad. and saddest for her son, who already lost a parent and knows what type of long suffering and struggles having an ill parent can be.
Too true. Basically it's just totally rotten that such an awful turn of events could possibly centre around one family. It's just so unlikely.
Ontir
08-10-2005, 09:17 PM
I believe in God, and I also believe that cancer is an evolutionary step toward immortality. Cells don't die, they commit suicide. Cancer cells don't commit suicide, they just go on, making more and more, until they outnumber the regular cells. Cancer wasn't as big a problem in ages past, because people dies much earlier, more often, of injuries, or more simple illnessess. Now, we're healthier on the whole, and are able to survive things that killed our ancestors, like the fever that took one of my father's sisters, or the infected splinter that took my best friend's uncle when he was 5, and so we're open for new, harder to conquer diseases, but the struggle is what it's about. When we can move beyond cancer, we'll live longer yet, then we'll be better equipped for the long journeys between the stars.
roguespirit
08-11-2005, 05:45 AM
Too true. Basically it's just totally rotten that such an awful turn of events could possibly centre around one family. It's just so unlikely.
I lost a sister and a nephew to cancer in the same week. Life is like that and I've seen a lot of 'clustering' of sad events in families lives. To me the mark of a person is how you deal with these things that are quite simply - life. Dana Reeves is obviouolsy one of those people that faces these things square on, doesn't seem to be attributing blame but gets on with the process of dealing with the hand she's been played.
If she isn't gonna waste time feeling sorry for herself neither am I (that said it's hard not to). What I do take from her is a hell of a lot of inspiration and if I am ever in such a situation I hope I can do the same for others.
Perhaps you'd have a point friend, if said God actually existed.
The fact you exist--with your own free will--is reason enough God exists. You may disagree, but the fact you disagree, proves to me God exists. You have your own will & personality & make your own choices. Our all loving God gave us such the gift of free will so our spirits would grow. The more spiritual one becomes, the more in touch with God one becomes.
The difference is we all have different paths, but they all lead to the same place.
DoubleWide
08-11-2005, 10:48 AM
I had my own life and death struggle three years ago, although nothing like some other people. On top of it, I had to deal with the death of my mother and the serious illness of my brother while dealing with my own health problems. My belief in God is much stronger than it was before because He sent one of His Angels to watch over me.
kalorama
08-12-2005, 10:16 AM
I was watching Charley Rose last night, which was his memoriam to Peter Jennings. During the show, they discussed the rate of survival of lung cancer, which isn't too damned good. Then, the first thing I hear this morning, is that Dana Reeves has it too. Fairness has obviously left the building.
It was never anywhere near the building to begin with.
Antonio B.
08-12-2005, 10:30 AM
We don't. Where did I blame God? The problem is that we CAN'T accept the idea that a God that is supposedly all knowing, all powerful and compassionate can inflict suffering on people over and over for no apparant reason. It's lack of blind faith, so we ask "Why, what end can this serve?" in hopes of receiving some answer from those who do believe. It makes that irrational faith seem MORE irrational when death is treated as "part of the plan" in that even pain and death is a "good" thing, because God can't be wrong.
"More proof that if there truly is a God he's an asshole who obviously finds humour in the misfortune of others."
Right here is where.
I heard this some time ago. This is incredibly sad news and my thoughts and prayers are out to them.
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