View Full Version : WWE RAW Review: " The Great HBK/Hogan Debate ! "
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 09:10 PM
So this week RAW crosses into that magical rough border of Penn State . Each year somethin wild happens and each year a heel or face gets wierdly booed or cheered. Its like the US Version of Bizarro World and its not in Canada eithor.
Onto News:
Shane Douglas's " Hardcore Homecoming " Tour may run in other states soon. In fact a Japanese Tour and shows In LA , Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and Ohio may soon be done. Talks with local promoters are ongoing to make it happen.
The Dudleyz are In talks to work shows as well.
CM Punk's work before the RAW Taping last week was better recieved from the WWE. Its expected he'll start OVW soon and be never heard from again. Ok..I jest...he'll be called up in a few months i expect with a horrible WWE Style to cramp him.
Rena Mero at her internet site claims she isn't close to a WWE return. No sh-t sherlock. Considering your bf can't or won't even resign with the company and would rather stay home and collect un-employment I don't see you returning anytime soon. Vince has enough T & A women !
Onto RAW now....
The Good: Eugene comes out to a pretty solid pop from the Pittsburgh fans as they cheer Christy Hemme as she acts like a perky oversexed cheerleader. In the end though...thats when the cheering stopped.
Kurt Angle came out and was the Hometown Hero and like a scene from where Flair,Bret Hart and Shane Douglas would wrestle in thier hometowns or cities...the fans started cheering them. In fact they outright turned on Eugene pretty fast.
Now Kurt outright did everything he could to make fans boo. He mocked them and then he decided to just say " f-ck It" and move on and wrestle Eugene.
Of course fans weren't happy when Eugene kept the medals due to Kurt's DQ. They booed and Kurt started beatin down Eugene as the bad ass he is. The end result was Hogan came out.
And Hulk Hogan pretty much took away Kurt's face heat in fal swoop. Those damn fans...how dare they cheer the American Hero and then cheer the...Immortal One so fast over Kurt ? Hogan and Eugene shared a pose down.
I don't know who I feel more sorry for. The fans forced to watch a Chris Masters/Shelton Benjimen match. Or Shelton facing the " No Heat " monster.
Benjimen does his 2nd clean job in a row to Masters and thus pretty much ends this fued. Jeeze...has Ace that much faith In Masters even though he's improved slightly or is the company this down on Benjimen to keep jobbin him to Masters and that lame Masterlock ?
I have to say that if Rob Conway is doing the same gimmick as Chris Masters , he's pretty far ahead of him mic wise. Conway sells his gimmick and wants attention and shows off his body to Maria. Who seems impressed by his 98% body fat.
The match with Viscera wasn't anything special. Of course I can see Conway vs Benjimen at some point. This should be a good match if the company will get behind both men and give Robert Conway better damn music than what he has.
Edge gave ..THE PROMO. The one where ya know that a guy has pretty much became The Main Event. Edge tells it like it is. He lays it out and claims that Hardy always cared about his career more than Lita. That Matt wanted to be where he was. That Edge has proven he is..." A Main Event Playa " and named the guys he's wrestled and beaten. While Matt hasn't.
Edge then claimed that Matt has his 15 minutes of fame to prove he belongs where Edge does. That after months of b.s he's gonna make Matt pay! And that both are gonna go straight to the bank with this fued ! Edge....I fear Matt's mic skills will kill him in this but as long as you get mic time you should carry it all !
Then after the Matt Hardy/Snitskey match , Edge attacks Hardy ! Dasterdly heel that Edge is. Doesn't shock me that Edge will soon be moving up. His charactor just translates well to everything. He's EVIL...lol.
Y2J & Bischoff share the Highlight Reel this week as both get pretty solid heel heat. Bischoff more because of the fact he doesn't like Cena. Jericho shows a quickly produced music clip of him singin as he beats Cena down last week.
Bisch isn't happy with Chad Patten over his counting Cena's pin over Carlito. So he orders a match after slappin Patten down a lot. Over and over....then Jericho beats down Patten as Carlito and Bischoff help. Cena comes out for the save as fans erupt. Yep....he's that over.
Now to the " The Debate " between Shawn Micheals & Hulk Hogan. The fans are pretty much behind Hogan due to Shawn's awesome heel work the last 2 weeks. Thats sellin something.
I gotta admit..I dig Micheals the heel bast-rd more than the " Praise jesus " Shawn Micheals. Thanking him for showing up after his busy shedule of " Yadda , Yadda movies..ect ect...." was funny.
Then Micheals just erupts on the mic. He claims that Hogan can't even f-ckin touch him in ring ! That he's been fired countless times and isn't afraid to tell it like it is now! God...Shawn's in perfect heel mode. He's the Most Real thing on TV right now!
Then Hogan brings up Bret Hart and how Micheals Is such a cheap shot artist! Micheals gets that magic heel heat as fans chant " You screwed Bret " over and over. Shawn looks out and says.." And don't you forget It ! And your next ! "
Hogan and Shawn have that staredown ..so intense and then Shawn superkicks Lawler outta his boots because he's a f-ckin heel GOD at this point! Micheals tries beatin down Hogan as fans erupt as the 2 have a skirmish as Hogan rips the shirt to signafy ITS REAL baby! Hogan vs Micheals should be GOLD. They have to do Micheals/Cena next. They have Shawn in the perfect spot now to do It.
The Bad: This week in the RAW Diva Challenge , the Diva's looked at the camera and talked " Real " to the fans at home to vote for them. In fact the only thing " Real " was the pies in the faces. Damn...this is WWE Creative ladies & gentleman. These are the guys makin a sh-tload of f-ckin money to produce pure sh-t like this.
The Pitt fans boo this as well. Don't say that I blame them. Being forced to watch this utter crap. Finally one lady gets voted off. Now seriously..which WWE Creative member actually writes this ? Fire yourself as well as the stupied Smackdown Creative team as well. For being stupied to put this on TV.
Speaking of Smackdown....did you see the JBL/Batista promo's hypin it as a Main Event at Summerslam ? Not even great video packaging helps sell this as a Main Event. Odds are since Jericho resigned with the company they should move Jericho to Smackdown and make him 1# heel or Eddie Guerrero.
Of course you could be so into someone you lose your mind and force fans to watch horrible produced music videos. Like John Cena's latest one which if ya blink won't even go to VH1.
The fans boo this after its done because quite frankly...no one wants to Cena the Hip Hop Star on RAW. They want Cena who brings that fury on the mic and is pretty intense. Not someone doing worse music videos than Konnan did in WCW.
I think I also blinked and saw Hurricane/Rosie defend the Tag Titles on RAW. Nevermind ...they were defended on Heat. Damn thats not a good sign for this division.
OVERALL: ***1/2 Outta 5. Despite bad matches the show steamlined ahead due to great TV Mic battles like Angle/Eugene , Edge , and Hogan/HBK to finish the show. This episode will be remembered as pretty much maybe layin the groundwork for a future Bret Hart appearance.
Summerslam is sold out due to Hogan/Micheals it seems so...maybe they should continue with Micheals as a heel and see if he can work a solid PPV outta Cena next.
marshal99
08-08-2005, 09:18 PM
While HBK & Hogan are icon and legend , the big question have to be , can HBK really pull a good match out of Hogan ?
JohnPopa
08-08-2005, 09:19 PM
Hogan dropped the ball a bit tonight. He REALLY needed to put over the notion that Shawn was as much a master manipulator as he ever was -- and, let's be honest, Shawn's got a track record of refusing to drop titles that no one could rival. You can still keep it in the work by just saying he got out of matches he thought he was going to lose. He should have BUILT to bringing up Bret Hart, saying he only liked to work with his buddies, then get to him losing his smile, then even push that he tried to get out of wrestling Austin (might as well make the back injury part of that story,) rather than just jumping right to Bret's name which was the obvious pop and biggest pop.
If they're building the feud off politics, which is a good idea, I think they could be hitting the points better that both guys are in a position where they can't pull any strings to get out of the match and it's just going to be mano a mano.
JohnPopa
08-08-2005, 09:22 PM
While HBK & Hogan are icon and legend , the big question have to be , can HBK really pull a good match out of Hogan ?
Yeah, Jericho did and Shawn and Jericho are pretty similar. It will just be him bumping all over the place before probably clipping out a knee and kicking the hell out of Hogan. If Hogan will just lay there and take his lumps when he needs to, it should be fine.
marshal99
08-08-2005, 09:24 PM
Win or lose , Hogan isn't going to be a full time WWE performer after Summerslam so it doesn't really matter how they play off as i'm sure HBK can probably easily go back to being a face after this feud.
Heck , they have HBK vs Edge in the recent house shows where HBK is the face , kind of contradicting his heel turn on TV.
marshal99
08-08-2005, 09:27 PM
Yeah, Jericho did and Shawn and Jericho are pretty similar. It will just be him bumping all over the place before probably clipping out a knee and kicking the hell out of Hogan. If Hogan will just lay there and take his lumps when he needs to, it should be fine.
Jericho match was what ? 2-3 years ago ? Hogan hasn't been active as a singles wrestler for a very long time and even when he came back recently in the Backlash PPV and all his subsequent matches , he was doing tag duty where Michaels & others were doing all the work.
titanfan
08-08-2005, 09:28 PM
Pretty decent RAW this week. Not pleased with things like Shelton jobbing cleanly to Masters, but it's nice to actually have some matches for once!
- Still enjoying the Eugene-Angle feud. Weird reactions with the Philly crowd, who constantly changed who they were rooting for.
- Edge's promo rocked! I thought he told it like it is. I loved Lawler's crack on Hardy: "...and if he doesn't like it, he'll send you a nasty email!"
- Where's Kerwin White? Yes, I know part of his new gimmick is that he doesn't have to work as hard since he's now white, but this is ridiculous.
- How can you have a Stacy Keibler match and not find a way to work in her leg choke thing? That's the main reason for a Stacy match!
- Didn't see the point of the referee thing. Jericho was a bit too obvious in whispering to his opponent while he was beating him up.
- Did anyone not think that Lawler was going to get Superkicked once they saw that he was leading the interview?
- Ashley's Number was busy. :(
I think I read that Rena Mero and Brock broke up a few months after he left he WWE a second time.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 09:28 PM
They should keep Shawn as heel where he seems more perfect with. Everythings fresh and his charactor is just an asshole personified. Shawn will get a great match from Hogan ( perhaps Hogan's best EVER ) because lets face it , Shawn can take and carry Kane & Undertaker to decent ok matches then he's already a quarter of the way there. ;)
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 09:31 PM
- Ashley's Number was busy. :(
Obviously the number was a fake. Or this girl likes having fans pant on the phone to her and I doubt it.
I think I read that Rena Mero and Brock broke up a few months after he left he WWE a second time.
Last I heard back in Jan. was that her and Lesnar were looking for an Island to get married on. No word since.
JohnPopa
08-08-2005, 09:34 PM
Jericho match was what ? 2-3 years ago ? Hogan hasn't been active as a singles wrestler for a very long time and even when he came back recently in the Backlash PPV and all his subsequent matches , he was doing tag duty where Michaels & others were doing all the work.
Well, I don't think Hogan will be demonstrably worse in singles action than he was then. Or than he was in 1986 :)
Murrocko
08-08-2005, 09:37 PM
Yeah, but how many of you think Shawn will actually win the Summer Slam match. Hogan will get his ass pretty much handed to him then suddenly he "Hulks up", big foot Shawn and so one of the most stupidest finishers ever, a god damn leg drop, 1,2,3 . I hope they keep Shawn like this, this is the Shawn we all grew up to love. Fucking hated the whole good guy, jesus boy crap.
JohnPopa
08-08-2005, 09:39 PM
I don't think there's any doubt that Shawn will do the job.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 09:41 PM
I don't think there's any doubt that Shawn will do the job.
He'll do the Job and get a great match from Hulk. Who can ask for more. ;)
marshal99
08-08-2005, 09:52 PM
They should keep Shawn as heel where he seems more perfect with. Everythings fresh and his charactor is just an asshole personified. Shawn will get a great match from Hogan ( perhaps Hogan's best EVER ) because lets face it , Shawn can take and carry Kane & Undertaker to decent ok matches then he's already a quarter of the way there. ;)
I don't think RAW can support so many top tier heels - u already have Hunter coming back , u already have Angle , Edge , Jericho and if u put in HBK , who would u have as a top tier face ? Only Cena at the moment. Who else ? Ermm , Big show ? Ermm , Kane ?
Shelton Benjamin is currently in a crappy program with Masters. RVD is nowhere near ready. Matt Hardy shouldn't even be in the top tier. Who do u have ? The comedic Eugene ? The fatso Viscera ?
Seriously shortage of top tier faces on RAW with so many top heels.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 10:24 PM
I don't think RAW can support so many top tier heels - u already have Hunter coming back , u already have Angle , Edge , Jericho and if u put in HBK , who would u have as a top tier face ? Only Cena at the moment. Who else ? Ermm , Big show ? Ermm , Kane ?
Shelton Benjamin is currently in a crappy program with Masters. RVD is nowhere near ready. Matt Hardy shouldn't even be in the top tier. Who do u have ? The comedic Eugene ? The fatso Viscera ?
Seriously shortage of top tier faces on RAW with so many top heels.
RAW's ready for a change. They should ship Jericho and HHH to Smackdown. Let them fix & carry that Brand. Its time. Then have Cena,RVD, & Matt Hardy as your main faces. Build the others as best ya can and keep Micheals,Angle and Edge as the Heels.
Be one hell of a youth movement and pretty much give RAW an dose of change .
Erik Lehnsherr
08-08-2005, 10:49 PM
Raw was pretty mediocre. Shawn vs Hogan at the end was alright. I personally like Hogan bringing up the Bret thing because no matter how many marks Shawn has, that's the ONE thing that even turns his own against him. Good move, Hogan.
Shelton vs Masters. Another horriblle worker Shelton made legit again. What else is new? Make no mistake about it, Chris Masters SUCKS and with Carlito was IC Champ, he has no place to go but down.
Edge's promo...just irritating. He's not a maineventer. He's a guy that jobs to HHH in Japan for the kicks of it and who has been lost in the shuffle for a ridiculous Kane fued. This whole thing made Edge bigger, not Hardy. Hardy is just the guy the fans realized was the victim and supported him for it. No crime in that.
Kurt Angle getting cheered in his hometown was a great sight. Nice promo, tried being a heel, but the "Let's Go Angle" and "Angle" chants were back in full effect again. As always, Kurt remains one of the most cheerable heels going today.
Carlito and Jericho vs Cena? For what though? What is gonna happen to Carlito at Summerslam? He's still jobbing out to Cena every week. Nice way to promote a IC Champion that was suppose to be MUCH better than the "likes" of Shelton. Good work, bookers.
Diva Search: I just wanted to say that Leyla is the only thing watchable in that group. Keep pushing her. I love it.
Nevertheless, Raw was mediocre. I recorded this hoping something interesting was gonna happen tonight and besides Angle getting cheered, nope, nothing too big happened. Next week's Montreal is the show to watch.
As for another heel on Smackdown? Haven't you noticed that Eddie Guerrero's story is headlining Raw, not JBL vs Batista. There's no need for Jericho to leave when Eddie running things just fine.
drewinorlando
08-08-2005, 11:08 PM
I saw the last hour of Raw. It pretty much sucked. Hogan bringing up Bret was inevitable since the Hitman and Vince are on good terms again, and HBK is a great heel. John Cena-great worker, bad gimick, please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP WITH THE VIDEOS!!!! I changed it when the video played to Pre-season football-which is more entertaining than a Cena video. Shelton is jobbing to Masters? The WWE is pulling a WCW there. The Diva search is a waste of time, give me a match instead of this B.S.-the middle one is the hottest by far. Matt Hardy and Edge-not cool anymore, and got played out really fast. You got a mid-carder/semi-main eventer against a tag team guy who wasn't even the draw for that tag team. I give this a 2 out of 5.
Erik Lehnsherr
08-08-2005, 11:20 PM
Ah $hit...I'm watching the John Cena video right now. This crap SUCKS. This video won't do nothing for that album. Has ANYONE ever seen a hip hop video look like this in the history of the genre? Nothing but White guys playing football and doing fake wrestling holds. Hold on...the video just went off and the fans are BOOING it to NO END. HAHAHAHAHA! Cena, I'm sorry but you're a ticking timebomb with the fans. They are getting more and more irritated with you. I HONESTLY believe Cena should turn heel by the end of the year or by Survivor Series. They booed the damn video. HAHA! Can't believe I missed that part when it first aired. Poor Cena. :D
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 11:25 PM
Ah $hit...I'm watching the John Cena video right now. This crap SUCKS. This video won't do nothing for that album. Has ANYONE ever seen a hip hop video look like this in the history of the genre? Nothing but White guys playing football and doing fake wrestling holds. Hold on...the video just went off and the fans are BOOING it to NO END. HAHAHAHAHA! Cena, I'm sorry but you're a ticking timebomb with the fans. They are getting more and more irritated with you. I HONESTLY believe Cena should turn heel by the end of the year or by Survivor Series. They booed the damn video. HAHA! Can't believe I missed that part when it first aired. Poor Cena. :D
He could turn heel if they played his crappy videos constantly and pissed fans off with them. I'm sure someone at Columbia is thinking..." We actually have our labels name on this sh-t ? "
If they play Cena as a straight , hard edged wrestler ...he's gold as we have seen. The moment they try that rap/hip hop act it sinks him faster than crap.
drewinorlando
08-08-2005, 11:31 PM
I actually liked Cena before this hip hop b.s. Now I hate him more than I hated Goldberg. Only difference, of course, is that Cena can wrestle and has charisma.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 11:35 PM
But doesn't crap float?
Not if its wieghted down with tons of unsold CD's. At last count Cena's album hasn't even touched 100,000 albums sold. Thats comical. Producing videos for a guy who can barely crack even that number. I suspect WWE will continue shooting these damn awful videos til the fans turn on Cena and ruin thier mega face they have tried hard to build.
Erik Lehnsherr
08-08-2005, 11:41 PM
^^And that sir is called "self sabotage" but to me it's just plain STUPID. Maybe it should of been Cena who turned heel and not Eddie. On second thought? NO WAY. This Eddie heel run is the best thing in the WWE while this Cena face run is something I HARDLY tolerate watching. At least Jericho is carrying the fued. Thank goodness.
Devon C.
08-08-2005, 11:46 PM
He could turn heel if they played his crappy videos constantly and pissed fans off with them. I'm sure someone at Columbia is thinking..." We actually have our labels name on this sh-t ? "
If they play Cena as a straight , hard edged wrestler ...he's gold as we have seen. The moment they try that rap/hip hop act it sinks him faster than crap.
Which is odd: The hip hop gimmick was what made him charismatic on SmackDown. But it just goes to show you:
The "E" overdoes things way too much.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-08-2005, 11:52 PM
Which is odd: The hip hop gimmick was what made him charismatic on SmackDown. But it just goes to show you:
The "E" overdoes things way too much.
That they do. They once nearly made fans want to boo Rocky while he was away in Hollywood 2 or 3 years ago. They'd air nothing but him on Talk Shows hypin each movie and not really thankin the wrestling fans and slowly some started to boo him after each of these segments would air.
The WWE couldn't figure out what was wrong and someone with brains clicked. They love Rocky the wrestler and guy who's The Great One. The one who can cut a mic promo on anyone and deliver a show in ring. They don't perfer Rocky the actor that much and felt he was betraying who and what made him. Hence the boo's.
Cena is just over as a face. Fans love Cena the charismatic rowdy wrestler who can work a mic good. They aren't pleased with Cena , the hip hop star. Its that simple. The WWE needs to stop this crap and quick are thier gonna turn thier next big cross-over star heel and hurt his martable drawpower with his future movie release.
Astonishing X-Fan
08-09-2005, 12:04 AM
You know, Cena's album is actually pretty decent. He's no Nas or Mos Def, but he can spit.
Erik Lehnsherr
08-09-2005, 12:19 AM
That they do. They once nearly made fans want to boo Rocky while he was away in Hollywood 2 or 3 years ago. They'd air nothing but him on Talk Shows hypin each movie and not really thankin the wrestling fans and slowly some started to boo him after each of these segments would air.
The WWE couldn't figure out what was wrong and someone with brains clicked. They love Rocky the wrestler and guy who's The Great One. The one who can cut a mic promo on anyone and deliver a show in ring. They don't perfer Rocky the actor that much and felt he was betraying who and what made him. Hence the boo's.
Cena is just over as a face. Fans love Cena the charismatic rowdy wrestler who can work a mic good. They aren't pleased with Cena , the hip hop star. Its that simple. The WWE needs to stop this crap and quick are thier gonna turn thier next big cross-over star heel and hurt his martable drawpower with his future movie release.
Actually Cena is not that over. No one in wrestling is as over as Rock was back in 2000. If Cena was that big of a draw, they would be pulling in 7s instead of 3.5s at most. But the Rock's Hollywood lifestyle became accepted and the fans ended up going more crazy for him than ever when he gave them what they wanted back in '03. Cena? He doesn't have a long history of greatness or unforgettable moments like the Rock. If the fans go against him, who knows if they will be back in his favor for quite some time.
clayholio
08-09-2005, 12:26 AM
The Hogan-HBK face-off was pretty good. I've really been enjoying the build-up for their match. Plus, it's fun watching HBK getting his edge back.
Cena's video was very, very bad. That's the kind of video a rapper can get away with only if it's the 5th video off an album that's already sold 5 million copies. It's too bad that they've been hyping Cena's album so much lately, because I've otherwise enjoyed seeing Jericho and Cena go after one another.
As for the actual matches, I'm baffled why Hardy would have his first match back against Snitsky (or why they'd at least fail to at least let Snitsky taunt Hardy about having licked Lita's feet. C'mon, this stuff writes itself). Isn't Chavo/Kerwin on Raw? They'd have a decent match. Same deal with Shelton Benjamin. I don't know why they're going out of their way to give him opponents that do him no favors, considering his gimmick is that he's supposed to be ultra-athletic.
sgt.candy
08-09-2005, 12:53 AM
CM Punk's work before the RAW Taping last week was better recieved from the WWE. Its expected he'll start OVW soon and be never heard from again. Ok..I jest...he'll be called up in a few months i expect with a horrible WWE Style to cramp him.
and back in the indies in 6 months to a year :)
Nuclear_Holocaust
08-09-2005, 01:42 AM
I hate to say this, but with the exception of JBL and Batista, I think Smackdown may be better than RAW at the moment. Mysterio VS Guerrerro, minus the storyline, is awesome. I wish Cena would focus on WRESTLING, not a recording career that is a failure. Ron Artest, anyone?
marshal99
08-09-2005, 03:13 AM
The Mysterio/Guerrero storyline is getting old , they had this feud for way too long now. Time to move on , in recent house shows , they have Eddie going up against Undertaker.
Devon C.
08-09-2005, 04:49 AM
The Mysterio/Guerrero storyline is getting old , they had this feud for way too long now. Time to move on , in recent house shows , they have Eddie going up against Undertaker.
Baaaad Booking. With two big men on the roster, they should at least set up a small feud.
Dennis K
08-09-2005, 05:58 AM
It's good to see some things never change. Matt Hardy is still a sloppy bore in the ring, and I can't believe so many people got so worked up over his return. Maybe Vince should create a Dark Match Title, that's about Matt's speed.
Jericho vs. The Ref? What the hell happened? Did I fall asleep and wake up on Thursday, this was as lame as your typical episode of Smackdown.
The Eugene Invitational. Make it stop! Make it stop! Note to Pittsburgh, you're right, Eugene does suck.
Hey Shelton Benjamin, how's it feel to be the new Al Snow?
GremlinClr
08-09-2005, 07:26 AM
RAW was ok, I just hate seeing talented wrestlers wasted on no talent losers. Angle on Eugene, HBK on Hogan, Benjamin on Masters. Blergg. Who books this crap?
Did Vis say "Mu Fanchu" moustache? I thought that's what I heard.
Divas…wheee. :|
But any RAW that Snitsky jobs is a good RAW to me.
KameTen
08-09-2005, 08:45 AM
I just found it really funny that Edge did in one interview what Matt Hardy was supposed to do and ended up doing it far better than Matt could ever hope to.
And I used to have such high hopes for V.1 :o
Erik Lehnsherr
08-09-2005, 10:01 AM
The Mysterio/Guerrero storyline is getting old , they had this feud for way too long now. Time to move on , in recent house shows , they have Eddie going up against Undertaker.
It's not getting old. You're part of the new generation of fans that like 2-3 months feuds at most. But even dating back from 1998-2000, Rock and HHH fueded for the majority of 3 years. Austin and Rock fueded on and off from 1998-2003. Benoit and Angle have had mulitiple feuds from WM 17-2003. Eddie vs Rey is great and it's ending at Summerslam anyway. So all the little bitching can end but it's been a fun ride. The promos by Eddie have been 20x more entertaining than anything produced on Raw. And the heel manipulating by Eddie is easily the best work of the year in the WWE. The great thing about this whole thing was that Eddie was the most over star on Smackdown as a face starting this year off and he turned heel, unnecessarily perhaps, but it's been a good move. Eddie didn't NEED a heel turn like a Shawn Michaels to stay entertaining and great but he did it anyway and it added a new dynamic to the WWE.
Oh yeah...Edge's promo was one of backwards logic. How can one not just crack up laughing at him trying to be serious and intense of all people? He was better as the whining loser that the fans turned on. A pity to see him not really improve in his role.
Shade
08-09-2005, 10:17 AM
It's not getting old. You're part of the new generation of fans that like 2-3 months feuds at most. But even dating back from 1998-2000, Rock and HHH fueded for the majority of 3 years. Austin and Rock fueded on and off from 1998-2003. Benoit and Angle have had mulitiple feuds from WM 17-2003.
RIght on! These kinds of long running fueds are great for building a history for WWE and not just short term mini fueds. Giving a fued like this time to grow and develop is awesome, unless of course its HBK vs HHH. Then is sucks because we all know HBK eats kittens.
titanfan
08-09-2005, 12:14 PM
It's not getting old. You're part of the new generation of fans that like 2-3 months feuds at most.
Well, the problem with wrestling today is that there generally is only one big feud. You rarely have multiple storylines going on in the old days. I'm growing tired of this storyline too, just because it's seems like a one-sided feud. Rey has won every single match in this feud so far and he's going to win at Summer Slam too.
JohnPopa
08-09-2005, 12:24 PM
All win-swapping does is keep everyone in the pack and keeps people from getting over as something special. I applaud them for keeping heat on Eddie without just having him get heel wins at every turn before Rey gets the blow-off win. I can't say how the storyline would be any more or less interesting if Eddie had won the match last month.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-09-2005, 12:39 PM
Fueds if written well can in fact carry a program. One look at ECW's key fued with Raven & Tommy Dreamer which lasted 3 years can show you what makes a special fued.
The Raven/Dreamer fued started in 1995 and began when Raven showed up as an old outcast angry at Tommy. He slowly bring in a string of members or outcasts like Stevie Richards , Blue Meanie , Brian Lee and various others at some point.
Dreamer for 3 years never got the WIN over Raven. Came close a lotta times. Never beat him. Raven evolved his fued with Tommy and many things sprang out. The Pit Bulls got over under Raven's group 1st and then became a good tag team . Lee and Dreamer had a 6 month fued that had many brutal matches ( Lee once choke slammed Tommy thru a huge wooden door off the top of a cage! ) that always came back to Raven/Dreamer. Raven himself fued with Funk and Sandman in side fueds. But it always came back to Tommy Dreamer/Raven.
The WWE really doesn't have nothing like this. They had McMahon/Austin that lasted a year. But It too ran outta steam once the fans didn't like Paul Wright ( Big Show) and there was nowhere for the heel McMahon to go after.
HHH/Rock was a great mid-card fued and thier clashes continued in the Main Event scene. But they aren't reslly guys who had long drawn out fued , more or less they faced each other to get a title and moved on.
Austin/Rock was also a series of matches that can't really be considered a fued because the 2 would would fued off and on as well. Its not like the Raven/Dreamer war because Austin/Rock exchanged wins and met only 2 or 3 times a year on PPV's or RAW's.
The Mysterio thing with Guerrero Is a solid fued because both men went at it for months. On PPV's and what not.
The HHH/Batista fued started In Jan. and ran til June. Thats great planning and building of that fued. The entire thing started after Royal Rumble and had a begining,middle and end with HHH losing at Vengence in June .
You don't see many Main Event long fueds because it tires fans out who grow agravated seeing the same contenders in the same Main Event. The HBK/HHH Fued started In July 2002 and didn't end til the Royal Rumble and at that point fans had finally voiced thier anger with the match and lack of finish between the 2.
Its ok to have some mid-card fueds go and carry awhile. But some Main Event fueds are hard to carry and keep fans interested now because its the Main Event that carries the Company. Not the mid-card .
Dennis K
08-09-2005, 01:04 PM
The Rey/Eddie feud sucks because of just how stupid it is, the worst storyline since Katie Vick. Enough already.
Erik Lehnsherr
08-09-2005, 01:22 PM
Well, the problem with wrestling today is that there generally is only one big feud. You rarely have multiple storylines going on in the old days. I'm growing tired of this storyline too, just because it's seems like a one-sided feud. Rey has won every single match in this feud so far and he's going to win at Summer Slam too.
Sorry but the Rey winning streak ends at Summerslam. It's common sense really. Eddie lost at WM 21 so he wins at Summerslam. It's served it's purpose.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-09-2005, 01:31 PM
The Rey/Eddie feud sucks because of just how stupid it is, the worst storyline since Katie Vick. Enough already.
The custody papers on a pole match is just beyond tasteless. I mean that I agree on. The fued however has been solid for the most part and has pretty much made Guerrero 1# heel on Smackdown.
I feel for Eddie being a show written by fools who perfer pushing the same jokes as a reason why your Brand Is getting tanked on PPV's and why every hates them.
JohnPopa
08-09-2005, 01:35 PM
Common sense also says the face wins the feud blow-off, otherwise it makes the face look incompetent.
titanfan
08-09-2005, 03:11 PM
Sorry but the Rey winning streak ends at Summerslam. It's common sense really. Eddie lost at WM 21 so he wins at Summerslam. It's served it's purpose.
But what's going to happen if Eddie gets custody of Dominic? Rey's kids and wife will stop travelling with him for the summer and head back to school in the fall. They need to write Dominic out of the storyline by Summer Slam. That's why I can't see Eddie winning at Summer Slam, although it would be nice, because I want Eddie to retain his status as a main event heel and possibly feud with Batista next.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-09-2005, 03:27 PM
Navarre Corp. annouced In todays Press Release thier agreement with TNA to distribute TNA's entire Video catalogue thru the United States and Canada. Navarre handles distribution on PC Games,CD's and various other media.
Bob Freese VP of Navarre annouced that the company is pleased to be working with TNA and building thier realtionship. So with Wal-Mart due to offer 3 PPV's In an Anthology set for under 30 bucks this X-Mas , you can see that TNA is approaching the Distribution of TNA DVD's home video as a huge deal.
For those poor souls who called that Diva's home number last night , then you obviously reached the voicemail of a man named Austin. Odds are if he wasn't in on this with the company then odds are you'll see a very angry young man for this.
Diva Search contestant Krystal on WWE.Com Is shown getting mad,swearing and tossing stuff at Coach in the real scenes that weren't shown last night. Yes...no one does Reality TV or edits it out like Vince McMahon !
Brock Lesnar Is on Madden 2006 as a playable free agent charactor at Defensive Tackle. I'm sure thats a job he too won't get paid for.
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Royal
08-09-2005, 07:32 PM
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/fushichou/imgs/3/a/3abdf4cd.jpg
Care to guess who these two guys are?
powergirl
08-09-2005, 07:37 PM
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/fushichou/imgs/3/a/3abdf4cd.jpg
Care to guess who these two guys are?
wrestling fans?
JohnPopa
08-09-2005, 07:39 PM
The gent on the right looks like Masato Tanaka.
Not sure about the gent on the left.
Royal
08-09-2005, 07:40 PM
Popa got one.
First hint: These guys both worked in FMW.
Convoy
08-09-2005, 11:00 PM
Potential Summerslam SPOILERS
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SUPERECWFAN1
08-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Potential Summerslam SPOILERS
http://www.ringsidemayhem.com/specials/ppvposters/unforgiven.jpg
This was reported last week. I don't doubt it but these posters have been known to be wrong before. If I'm the WWE I push Micheals/Cena because Shawn's pretty much HOTTER than hell as a Heel right now and helped selling out Summerslam against Hogan. Roll with the guy who's BLOWIN SMOKE.
marshal99
08-10-2005, 05:19 AM
This was reported last week. I don't doubt it but these posters have been known to be wrong before. If I'm the WWE I push Micheals/Cena because Shawn's pretty much HOTTER than hell as a Heel right now and helped selling out Summerslam against Hogan. Roll with the guy who's BLOWIN SMOKE.
I actually would prefer Angle to end Cena's title reign and then if HBK still is a heel , maybe Cena can go on to feud with HBK without the title on the line. Angle can be a great champion and make any challengers look good , he can certainly help to legitimise and push someone like Shelton Benjamin or RVD to the main event stage.
marshal99
08-10-2005, 05:41 AM
The custody papers on a pole match is just beyond tasteless. I mean that I agree on. The fued however has been solid for the most part and has pretty much made Guerrero 1# heel on Smackdown.
I feel for Eddie being a show written by fools who perfer pushing the same jokes as a reason why your Brand Is getting tanked on PPV's and why every hates them.
The feud has gone on way too long , even before they started the actual feud , they were already teasing for months of a Eddie heel turn but it dragged on and on until finally Eddie turned fully heel and then the actual program with Mysterio started and at first the feud was hot but as the feud starts going into overdrive , the story starts to get stupified with Eddie's "secret". Eddie might as well come out with a Darth Vader mask and then proclaim "Dominic , i am your pappi". Anyway , the storyline has dragged on , the only reason why this feud is slightly more watchable than the others on smackdown because the rest like JBL/Batista , OJ US title defences and Heidenreich becoming a road warrior is even more terribly tedious.
I think the writers have written themselves into a corner with the Eddie/Rey situation , if Eddie wins , the feud would have to continue on because u can't have Eddie taking the son away from Mysterio and if Rey wins , Eddie will just looked pathetic having not won once against Mysterio and will hardly serve to make Eddie the #1 heel on smackdown.
lboinyamouf4sho
08-10-2005, 06:05 AM
He'll do the Job and get a great match from Hulk. Who can ask for more. ;)
i think i know somebody who could
For those who are interested, Impact was released on the web today, as the PPV is Sunday. I'll have the recap done by tonight, most likely.
lboinyamouf4sho
08-10-2005, 06:27 AM
For those who are interested, Impact was released on the web today, as the PPV is Sunday. I'll have the recap done by tonight, most likely.
thanx man, i'm gonna start watching right now.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-10-2005, 09:45 AM
I'll check it out. Thanks Gaz...
SUPERECWFAN1
08-10-2005, 09:48 AM
I actually would prefer Angle to end Cena's title reign and then if HBK still is a heel , maybe Cena can go on to feud with HBK without the title on the line. Angle can be a great champion and make any challengers look good , he can certainly help to legitimise and push someone like Shelton Benjamin or RVD to the main event stage.
RVD's got a fued with Carlito upcoming and a run as IC Champion to help the mid-card. But I do think Shawn Micheals telling Cena : " I am just the better man. I'm an ICON and you Cena can't even fill my shoes ! " would sell itself. Nothing against Kurt Angle....but roll with Micheals right now.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-10-2005, 09:50 AM
The feud has gone on way too long , even before they started the actual feud , they were already teasing for months of a Eddie heel turn but it dragged on and on until finally Eddie turned fully heel and then the actual program with Mysterio started and at first the feud was hot but as the feud starts going into overdrive , the story starts to get stupified with Eddie's "secret". Eddie might as well come out with a Darth Vader mask and then proclaim "Dominic , i am your pappi". Anyway , the storyline has dragged on , the only reason why this feud is slightly more watchable than the others on smackdown because the rest like JBL/Batista , OJ US title defences and Heidenreich becoming a road warrior is even more terribly tedious.
I think the writers have written themselves into a corner with the Eddie/Rey situation , if Eddie wins , the feud would have to continue on because u can't have Eddie taking the son away from Mysterio and if Rey wins , Eddie will just looked pathetic having not won once against Mysterio and will hardly serve to make Eddie the #1 heel on smackdown.
Thats why Eddie's became the 1# Heel on the brand. The rest of it sucks. This mid-card fued wasn't supposed to be this good and draw fans in like it is. Now thier gonna have a ladder match and even if Eddie loses he still comes out with a ton of heel heat. More so than JBL at this stage.
If I'm the company i push Guerrero at Batista right after this fued. And to further fix Smackdown I bring in HHH and Jericho to give Smackdown a complete overhaul.
Forefinger
08-10-2005, 10:05 AM
What site can you watch Impact on? Is it free?
HBK & Hogan finally got me excited about their match. I may have to watch Summerslam if I can find a bar or somewhere to watch it in. HBK was funny as hell last week, but still no fued heat for me. This week? Yeah, they got me. Here's to HBK taking the title from Cena as his next big fued. I hate face HBK, but heel HBK is gold. Well, I could deal with Angle taking over as WWE champ. Actually, I'm hoping that when HHH returns, he will be going against Angle in a Heel vs. Heel fued.
clayholio
08-10-2005, 11:21 AM
Impact is on www.tnawrestling.com (http://www.tnawrestling.com). The last couple of episodes are usually up as well, and yeah, it's free.
The Eddie/Rey thing is great because they've managed to get months out of it. When this thing finally ends, both Rey and Eddie are going to at the top of the card, and that's not a bad thing. I wouldn't mind seeing an Eddie/Benoit run, that's for sure.
And the Hogan/HBK hype has got me reeled in, I'll admit it. I don't order PPVs, but I'll definitely pick up the Summerslam DVD when it comes out.
Forefinger
08-10-2005, 01:13 PM
I wouldn't mind Eddie vs. Rey so much if Eddie didn't do 20 min promos about stupid shit. His bedtime stories suck. More wrasslin' is needed
Devon C.
08-10-2005, 01:48 PM
Potential Summerslam SPOILERS
http://www.ringsidemayhem.com/specials/ppvposters/unforgiven.jpg
OH, COME ON!
sgt.candy
08-10-2005, 02:16 PM
isnt it funny/ironic that shawn michaels keeps mentioning hogan's backstage antics?
Impact is on www.tnawrestling.com (http://www.tnawrestling.com). The last couple of episodes are usually up as well, and yeah, it's free.
The Eddie/Rey thing is great because they've managed to get months out of it. When this thing finally ends, both Rey and Eddie are going to at the top of the card, and that's not a bad thing. I wouldn't mind seeing an Eddie/Benoit run, that's for sure.
And the Hogan/HBK hype has got me reeled in, I'll admit it. I don't order PPVs, but I'll definitely pick up the Summerslam DVD when it comes out.
To clarify, the shows between the last PPV and the next are up, but only until Sunday, then they start over with this month's.
lboinyamouf4sho
08-11-2005, 01:44 AM
about hardy and edge, i'd just like to say that if everyone remembers when edge 1st came to the wwe however long ago, he was pushed imeadiately, i think they even did video pieces prior to his arrival, and since has recieved a few mid card and tag team and then mid card again pushes and is now just starting to get over the hump and into the main event status, which i don't personally care to see. matt hardy started off along with jeff as jobbers and then slowly worked their way up as a tag team, where jeff got the spotlight for doing the big spots but matt was always the better wrestler, they built up quite a fan base but jeff always remained in the spotlight and recieved the singles push. later after jeff was gone matt finaly recieved a singles push as a cruiserweight heel and ran with it, got over with his v1 gimmick then made the big mistake of going over to raw where things turned to shit with the lita/kane bs. so when people talk about what edge has done and what hardy has done it seems they forget how much more opprotunity edge has had to work with the benoits, hbks, angles, while hardy has built quite a fanbase despite the limited opprotunites, but when given the chance to work with a rey misterio, or benoit he delivered. i believe that wwe has put a whole lot of effort and determination into making edge a maineventer, and if they didn't like his look so much would've given up on him some time ago.
Royal
08-11-2005, 02:09 AM
Don't know if it got covered here but GONG reported that WWE has banned all 450 & SST movies from the federation.
GONG also reports that Simon Inoki has been involved in a secret WWE raid even before given the reigns of New Japan. He is close to finalizing an agreement with big talent.
GONG's no joke you guys. They're the Observer of Japan.
powergirl
08-11-2005, 02:47 AM
Potential Summerslam SPOILERS
http://www.ringsidemayhem.com/specials/ppvposters/unforgiven.jpg
little obvious isn't it?
not that y2j hasn't resigned his deal or anything either dude...
lboinyamouf4sho
08-11-2005, 04:13 AM
Don't know if it got covered here but GONG reported that WWE has banned all 450 & SST movies from the federation.
GONG also reports that Simon Inoki has been involved in a secret WWE raid even before given the reigns of New Japan. He is close to finalizing an agreement with big talent.
GONG's no joke you guys. They're the Observer of Japan.
what do they mean by raid?? stealing talent or a work type raid/invasion??
Melbourne Mew Mew
08-11-2005, 06:30 AM
The Eddie/Rey thing is great because they've managed to get months out of it. When this thing finally ends, both Rey and Eddie are going to at the top of the card, and that's not a bad thing. I wouldn't mind seeing an Eddie/Benoit run, that's for sure.
My prediction: Benoit will interfere in the Eddie/Rey match, costing Eddie the victory (he's already had some minor involvement) and resulting in Eddie feuding with him.
Don't know if it got covered here but GONG reported that WWE has banned all 450 & SST movies from the federation.
GONG also reports that Simon Inoki has been involved in a secret WWE raid even before given the reigns of New Japan. He is close to finalizing an agreement with big talent.
GONG's no joke you guys. They're the Observer of Japan.
As I said before, TNA just got their hook. The X-division was already gonna generate interest but this makes it a unique selling point.
Convoy
08-11-2005, 07:33 AM
My prediction: Benoit will interfere in the Eddie/Rey match, costing Eddie the victory (he's already had some minor involvement) and resulting in Eddie feuding with him.
Or Eddie wins the match and gets custody until he says that the whole storyline was a lie just to get Rey into another match. (yeah, sounds stupid but it is possible you know)
Forefinger
08-11-2005, 09:13 AM
Don't know if it got covered here but GONG reported that WWE has banned all 450 & SST movies from the federation.
Is the 450 the flipping move off the turnbuckle? What's the SST? Forgive me for not knowing more of the lingo....hangs head in shame....
clayholio
08-11-2005, 10:46 AM
The 450 is a front flip into a splash. The Shooting Star Press is a back flip into a splash (that was Billy Kidman's finisher, as well as the move Brock Lesnar nearly killed himself with at WM19). I wouldn't worry about the move names, though. Everything has 15 different names, depending on who is using the move.
titanfan
08-11-2005, 11:07 AM
You rarely see SSP's anymore in the WWE anyway. Kidman was starting to botch it more and more as he got older anyway. Has anyone gotten really injured using it lately though?
Forefinger
08-11-2005, 11:13 AM
The 450 is a front flip into a splash. The Shooting Star Press is a back flip into a splash (that was Billy Kidman's finisher, as well as the move Brock Lesnar nearly killed himself with at WM19). I wouldn't worry about the move names, though. Everything has 15 different names, depending on who is using the move.
Thanks. I figured that the SSP was another flip, but I didn't know which one. Yeah, the only way I've ever figured out what moves were what was by playing the Smackdown games for PS2. I make my own wrasslers and then program in their moves. I didn't remember seeing a SST or SSP. I guess those moves are too dangerous for the guys doing them, and then guys getting hit with the splash. I saw Chavo get hit with the SSP by Kidman, ouch. How much longer will they let Benoit do the headbutts of the top ring rope? Is that we don't see table matches anymore, too many guys getting hurt?
Royal
08-11-2005, 11:59 AM
what do they mean by raid?? stealing talent or a work type raid/invasion??
Honest to gosh talent raid.
Devon C.
08-11-2005, 02:32 PM
You rarely see SSP's anymore in the WWE anyway. Kidman was starting to botch it more and more as he got older anyway. Has anyone gotten really injured using it lately though?
Besides Kidman, no one really uses it anymore, so, no.
Royal
08-11-2005, 02:36 PM
London got a knee in the eye after Juvi did his 450.
Besides, does any WWE Crusier turn it up anymore?
Tien Long
08-11-2005, 03:06 PM
Besides, does any WWE Crusier turn it up anymore?
London did, against Nunzio about two weeks ago on Velocity. A very clean, and devastating Shooting Star Press. Still, even with a ban on 450's and the SSP, it shouldn't be that bad. I mean, there are hundreds of other finishing moves that these guys have, tornado DDT's, moonsaults, Michinoku/Juvi drivers, etc.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-11-2005, 03:37 PM
Don't know if it got covered here but GONG reported that WWE has banned all 450 & SST movies from the federation.
GONG also reports that Simon Inoki has been involved in a secret WWE raid even before given the reigns of New Japan. He is close to finalizing an agreement with big talent.
GONG's no joke you guys. They're the Observer of Japan.
Odds are its gonna be the ones who are released. Jericho's resigned with the company and who would leave a secure WWE American spot to go to Japan ? I think the Dudleyz will go considering they have talked about doing Japan and TNA.
Melbourne Mew Mew
08-11-2005, 03:48 PM
Odds are its gonna be the ones who are released. Jericho's resigned with the company and who would leave a secure WWE American spot to go to Japan ? I think the Dudleyz will go considering they have talked about doing Japan and TNA.
The Dudley Boys are listed as being part of the International Assault tour down under in early October (not to be confused with the WWE Survivor Series, also coming down under later in the month - see www.internationalassault.com
SUPERECWFAN1
08-11-2005, 11:01 PM
Thus far the only critics in the whole TNA/Spike TV deal has maintained that TNA would be paying Spike TV to air. That was shot down when TNA revealed that in a tradeoff they will air free. Spike is picking up the bill to air TNA free on thier networks in exchange for all advertising revenue they get.
This will save TNA millions of dollars and expand them. Its expected that TNA had to pay FSN $ 25,000 TO $ 30,000 a week to air Impact.
TNA will shoot a 2 hour show on 9/27 and record every other week .
This will be the 1st time the NWA World title has been exposed to a national cable audince since 1992.
It appears that the much beloved JBL/Batista angle will continue past Summerslam as will Eddie Guerrero/Rey Mysterio Jr. Both matches and Eddie/Rey In a no DQ street fight are hyped for the 8/18 show.
Remember that joke Hyatte done on Insidepulse a few weeks back and I posted on here ? About how many Indie promoters would be screwed by Hardy resigning with the WWE ? Well 1PW In Canada had a deal with Matt Hardy to come in for thier 1st show and wrestle Abyss. They even went over travel arrangements with Matt days ago as well as shooting a promotional vignette on the website hyping the match. Then Hardy dropped the bomb that he couldn't show. Seems the WWE pulled him....well looks like the 1st Indie promoter got screwed in this deal....
Todd Gordan is in talks with ECW Press to write a tell all book about ECW. His book will offer an expose into the sex,drugs and roll n roll lifestyle ECW was. This should be interesting. I wonder how he'll handle he'll write his departure from the company.
RAW did a 3.7 this week off hours of 3.5 and 3.8 for those hours.
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marshal99
08-12-2005, 02:53 AM
And in other news , Hiroko , the wife of ex-wwe wrestler Kenzo Suzuki has agreed to pose nude in photographs. Now , why WWE never make full use of Hiroko when she's pretty hot without that stupid geisha costume and makeup and they do this stupid bimbo search and look for skanks instead. Geez !
Hiroko without makeup.
http://www.2tbn.com/images/hiroko1/02.jpg
Royal
08-12-2005, 04:00 AM
Please ask that question again while remembering the who is on Creative.
Thus far the only critics in the whole TNA/Spike TV deal has maintained that TNA would be paying Spike TV to air. That was shot down when TNA revealed that in a tradeoff they will air free. Spike is picking up the bill to air TNA free on thier networks in exchange for all advertising revenue they get.
This will save TNA millions of dollars and expand them. Its expected that TNA had to pay FSN $ 25,000 TO $ 30,000 a week to air Impact.
TNA will shoot a 2 hour show on 9/27 and record every other week .
This will be the 1st time the NWA World title has been exposed to a national cable audince since 1992.
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*doesTNAhappydance*
They're not paying! They're on TV and it's not costing them a dime! Go Dixie! :D
lboinyamouf4sho
08-12-2005, 05:03 AM
*doesTNAhappydance*
They're not paying! They're on TV and it's not costing them a dime! Go Dixie! :D
it will be nice to not have to hear the people that hate tna bring up that they have to pay for tv time. also if spike is getting the advertising revenue that could encourage them to give tna a better timeslot.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-12-2005, 07:31 AM
it will be nice to not have to hear the people that hate tna bring up that they have to pay for tv time. also if spike is getting the advertising revenue that could encourage them to give tna a better timeslot.
This will factor in once Spike tries them on Mondays or Tuesdays. I expect we'll see Impact aired on Saturday and repeated in another slot to gauge how viewership works.
lboinyamouf4sho
08-12-2005, 07:41 AM
This will factor in once Spike tries them on Mondays or Tuesdays. I expect we'll see Impact aired on Saturday and repeated in another slot to gauge how viewership works.
all good news, you gonna watch the ppv this sunday??
all good news, you gonna watch the ppv this sunday??
*ahem* We have a thread for this... ;)
lboinyamouf4sho
08-12-2005, 07:59 AM
*ahem* We have a thread for this... ;)
we have a sacrafice thread??
we have a sacrafice thread??
Weeeell, in a little while yes, but TNA discussion really fits better in the TNA threads, doncha think? *hopeful smile* :o
Forefinger
08-12-2005, 08:12 AM
Maybe we should have a general, all-purpose, wrasslin' thread. We end up disscussing Smackdown on the RAW threads and vis-versa. TNA, ROH, and others end up being discussed as well.
lboinyamouf4sho
08-12-2005, 08:21 AM
Weeeell, in a little while yes, but TNA discussion really fits better in the TNA threads, doncha think? *hopeful smile* :o
he brought it up 1st man!!!!
i think people are scared to post in tna threads for some reason.
Erik Lehnsherr
08-12-2005, 10:47 AM
This thread has pretty much been damn near ruined.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-12-2005, 08:26 PM
I moved all TNA,WWE and general news to the RAW Review thread. I remember a lot of people felt it was too much clutter on the TV/Film Board.
VCreed32
08-13-2005, 07:20 AM
The Rey/Eddie feud sucks because of just how stupid it is, the worst storyline since Katie Vick. Enough already.
Yup, I've compared it to Katie Vick for a while.
Hiroko is friggin' HOTT (two "t"s)
lboinyamouf4sho
08-13-2005, 07:36 AM
Yup, I've compared it to Katie Vick for a while.
Hiroko is friggin' HOTT (two "t"s)
hiroko doesn't have all that nice of a body, remember the bra and panties match??
SUPERECWFAN1
08-15-2005, 10:47 AM
Apparntly the Future isn't now in the WWE. In fact Frankie Kazarian over the weekend got his WWE Release. On his website it says that Kazarian asked for and got his release and had been wanting it awhile.
PWINsider.com reports that Kazarian was unhappy with the WWE and that he felt they lied to him. He was expecting that when he signed that he would be put on WWE TV and given time. Except that it didn't happen and he was only put on WWE Velocity 4 times.
Kazarian also wasn't happy with the new WWE mandate that Cruisers tone thier styles down. He felt it was taking away from the Division. Plus the WWE has asked that Kazarian cut his long hair and shave. Yes...thier asking a man who looks remarkably like Antiono Banderas to change that look. Tell me thats not funny as hell.
Kazarian and WWE split on good terms it appears as both websites reported. His and WWE.Com
Rhino according to TNAwrestling.com was made the 1# Contender at TNA:Unbreakavle PPV next month. And will face Raven for the NWA World Title.
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More TNA news
Matt Bentley's contract expired recently and he has decided not to renew it. As such, his match on last week's iMPACT will likely be his last for the promotion for the foreseeable future. It's not yet known what will be done with Traci onscreen as a result of this.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-15-2005, 04:47 PM
More TNA news
Matt Bentley's contract expired recently and he has decided not to renew it. As such, his match on last week's iMPACT will likely be his last for the promotion for the foreseeable future. It's not yet known what will be done with Traci onscreen as a result of this.
Which is sad because this guy had The Talent to be a future Main Event Playa. Now he'll odds are ( due to Micheals being his cousin) sign a WWE Developmential deal and perhaps get moved up and paired alongside Micheals.
I could see them calling him Matt Micheals. Be a unique spin on Shawn's and Bentley's name.
Which is sad because this guy had The Talent to be a future Main Event Playa. Now he'll odds are ( due to Micheals being his cousin) sign a WWE Developmential deal and perhaps get moved up and paired alongside Micheals.
I could see them calling him Matt Micheals. Be a unique spin on Shawn's and Bentley's name.
Summerslam run-in! :D
Oh, and Jeff Hardy made his return to TNA this Sunday at Sacrifice, doing a run-in during the main event.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-15-2005, 04:57 PM
Summerslam run-in! :D
Oh, and Jeff Hardy made his return to TNA this Sunday at Sacrifice, doing a run-in during the main event.
I'd love to see them really do this. Because Bentley has showed that talent. When he's in the ring he's gold. Also you have to wonder...with TNA nearly to cable and a possible National fanbase watching....would Bentley leave TNA without a better offer ahead ? Thinkin WWE....
I'd love to see them really do this. Because Bentley has showed that talent. When he's in the ring he's gold. Also you have to wonder...with TNA nearly to cable and a possible National fanbase watching....would Bentley leave TNA without a better offer ahead ? Thinkin WWE....
New Rockers! And they could have a ref bump, Hogan Hulks up and Matt runs in, and him and Shawn superkick-sandwich him, dropping the Hulkster for 3. Hogan looks strong, Michaels gets a win in case they do Cena/Michaels, and Bentley gets a cool debut!
SUPERECWFAN1
08-15-2005, 05:20 PM
New Rockers! And they could have a ref bump, Hogan Hulks up and Matt runs in, and him and Shawn superkick-sandwich him, dropping the Hulkster for 3. Hogan looks strong, Michaels gets a win in case they do Cena/Michaels, and Bentley gets a cool debut!
Its gold. I'd love to see it happen. I could see Shawn going.." Meet the Heart Break Kid's Cousin......Matt Micheals. The next Showstoppa and Legend ! "
You build to a possible fued between the 2 really. If I'm the WWE and I get this guy....let it happen.
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