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furie
08-04-2005, 06:31 PM
I know very little about the animation world. When I was a kid, loved Battle of The Planets. I think I own one Batman dvd - where I believe he fights the JOKER.

W/ that said, can u recommend some true A list animated movies. I tend to gravitate toward super hero stuff. But doesn't have to be super hero.

Maybe 5 suggestions of must-have animation.

Gaz
08-04-2005, 06:39 PM
The Incredibles is the BEST animated superhero movie, maybe even the best superhero movie, EVER.

bert
08-04-2005, 07:25 PM
In no particular order:

The Incredibles
Akira
Ghost in the Shell
My Nighbor Totoro
Spirited Away
Nausicca of the Valley of the Wind
Kikki's Delivery Service
Princess Mononoke

Pretty much any Disney flick

All of the above have incredible animation, and are definaetly NOT for "kids". . despite many of them featuring kids.

Ghost, Kikki, Princess, and Nausicca are the most "super-hero" like. . but the only true super-hero film is Incredibles

Norrin Radd
08-04-2005, 07:42 PM
IMO:

Best anime: Spirited Away
Best Disney flick: Beauty and the Beast
Best Pixar flick: The Incredibles
Best guilty pleasure: Transformers-The Movie

Stretch Dude
08-04-2005, 08:03 PM
First off, I recommend all of the Pixar movies, especially The Incredibles.

Also:

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (preferably the Director's Cut)
The Iron Giant (which is from Brad Bird, who did The Incredibles)
Aladdin
Beauty & the Beast
The Powerpuff Girls Movie
An American Tail

Johnny_Storm
08-04-2005, 10:04 PM
Here's a list of some great animated movies.

Transformers-The Movie, awsome I bought a copy and it's as good as people say around CBR, animation was surprising.

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, Best computer animated film to me, almost looked like a real movie at some points.

Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie: This is way better than the live version that went to theater's, also has a good soundtrack.

Patlabor 1 and 2: These have some great animation and good stories, espeacially, I liked the detail put into the robots(Labors)

Atleast rent these films or catch them on tv, there really good. :)

Ilash
08-05-2005, 01:11 AM
The Incredibles
Toy Story 2
Batman: The Mask of the Phantasm
The Iron Giant
and, well, I'm not so sure about the last one actually.

Neil
08-05-2005, 01:49 AM
The Iron Giant - is number one by some distance.
Lady & The Tramp
Princess Mononoke (both this and Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind are the two hero-est Miyazaki movies)
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Toy Story II (although, I agree that The Incredibles is right up there)

I love Akira and Ghost in the Shell as much as the next dork and recommend them, although I still can't quite fathom how these became the official Anime choices of mainstream American males. They seem at least as weird and esoteric as any other. I suspect, in time, "Cowboy Bebop" or, at least, Cowboy Bebop: The Movie will pass them up in that.

Daniel Hopkins
08-05-2005, 01:55 AM
In no order.

Akira
Ninja Scroll
Tekken
Toy Story
DBZ: Bardock

Wild Card
08-05-2005, 02:10 AM
Perfect Blue
Batman: The Mask of the Phantasm
American Pop
Rock & Rule
Akira
Wizards
Green Legend Ran

Yeah I know thats more than five but that should give you a nice mix to look for.

CaptainAwesome
08-05-2005, 02:28 AM
The incredibles
Titan AE
The emporers ne groove
Monsters inc
Shrek

Sanagi
08-05-2005, 04:51 AM
My usual responses:
Grave of the Fireflies
Spirited Away
Porco Rosso
Castle in the Sky
Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind

SlightlyMad
08-05-2005, 05:44 AM
Very difficult to narrow down to 5 (I listed 14 off the top of my head). So, like Norrin, I've decided to categorize:

Best Super-hero movie: Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker [uncut] close 2nd).

Best Manga: Ninja Scroll (other contendors already metioned in thread: Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Perfect Blue + Vampire Hunter D is pretty cool too).

Best CGI animated movie: The Incredibles (also recommend Finding Nemo, Mosters inc & Antz).

Best Adult Animated movie: South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (just beats Beavis & Butt-Head Do America & Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story aka The Family Guy Movie ).

Best Disney: The Jungle Book.

GremlinClr
08-05-2005, 07:05 AM
In no particular order:

The Incredibles
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke
The Iron Giant
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within

Those are my favorites at the moment.

LtMarvel
08-05-2005, 09:02 AM
5 movies that no one's mentioned yet that are just as good:

The Lion King
Tokyo Godfathers
Antz
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Justice League: Starcrossed.

The Mirrorball Man
08-05-2005, 09:09 AM
Narrowing it down to five movies is incredibly difficult, but here's my list:

The Jungle Book

Princess Mononoke

The Iron Giant

Grave of the Fireflies

The Incredibles

Super Samurai
08-05-2005, 09:20 AM
Well I dont watch much animation movies either, but I do remember watching this really good anime move. The movie was called Spriggan. It had lots of action, great animation, and cool sci-fi elements. It was an all around good movie.

Stretch Dude
08-05-2005, 11:13 AM
Shrek

Oh, how could I forget? Shrek and Shrek 2 are must-haves.

Norrin Radd
10-11-2005, 10:57 PM
I hate Shrek.

acagle7
10-11-2005, 11:41 PM
Here are my picks for 5 best animated movies:
Shrek
The Incredibles
Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm
Beauty And The Beast
Transformers: The Movie.

Albert
10-12-2005, 02:13 AM
Well, my taste in animated film doesn't usually synch up with most people, but you might try...

1) Fire & Ice A Bakshi film, based on Frazetta's works. This might be difficult to find, and I don't think its been released on DVD.
2) Heavy Metal The first one-- avoid the second one.
3) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm Great story, beautiful animation.
4) Wizards Another Bakshi project-- the animation is dated and clunky, but I still think it holds up.
5) Justice League Starcrossed the Movie

blackwing
10-12-2005, 03:19 AM
In no order.

Akira
Ninja Scroll
Tekken
Toy Story
DBZ: Bardock

tekken was bullshit

heres the top 5

Ninja Scroll
Shadow Skill (MOVIE AND EPISODES) :D
Princess Mononoke
DBZ:Brolly (frist one, forget two and three)
Balto (trust me on this one, dont let the blurb at the back fool you)

Grant
10-12-2005, 06:05 AM
Guys it's okay to admit you like Snow White. It's a good movie honest.

The Mirrorball Man
10-12-2005, 06:09 AM
Guys it's okay to admit you like Snow White. It's a good movie honest.
I love Snow White, but is it one of the 5 best animated movies of all time? I don't think so. Although the animation is gorgeous and the Dwarves are still pretty funny, some other aspects of the movie haven't aged very well (the central character, for example).

Grant
10-12-2005, 06:14 AM
I love Snow White, but is it one of the 5 best animated movies of all time? I don't think so. Although the animation is gorgeous and the Dwarves are still pretty funny, some other aspects of the movie haven't aged very well (the central character, for example).

I say there's a level of craftsmanship and storytelling that elevates it over most live action movie. Sure the story is simple but it's a fairy tale. If it's not your cup of tea there's also Pinnochio and Fantasia.

I also believe it's the only animated film in AFI's top 100 films of all time.

The Mirrorball Man
10-12-2005, 06:39 AM
I say there's a level of craftsmanship and storytelling that elevates it over most live action movie.
Well, there's no need to "elevate" anything. "Snow White" is one of Walt Disney's best animated features, that automatically makes it one of the best movies of all time, period. In my mind, there is no hierarchy between animation and live action. That being said, I still think that there are at least five animation movies that were better than "Snow White", no matter what the AFI says. ;)

Grant
10-12-2005, 06:51 AM
Well, there's no need to "elevate" anything. "Snow White" is one of Walt Disney's best animated features, that automatically makes it one of the best movies of all time, period. In my mind, there is no hierarchy between animation and live action. That being said, I still think that there are at least five animation movies that were better than "Snow White", no matter what the AFI says. ;)

Hey I'm not singling you out. I just think it's interesting no one mentioned it.

Transformers the movie got mentioned. But not Snow White.

Mia
10-12-2005, 07:37 AM
Here are my favourites:

Prince of Egypt
Princess Mononoke
Beauty and the Beast
Atlantis

Taltos
10-12-2005, 07:59 AM
IMO:

Best anime: Spirited Away
Best Disney flick: Beauty and the Beast
Best Pixar flick: The Incredibles
Best guilty pleasure: Transformers-The Movie
I agree on all, except for Beauty and the Beast. It pails in comparison to the Lion King and Tarzan.

Oh and The Incredibles ties with Monsters Inc.

Grazzt
10-12-2005, 08:19 AM
Ninja Scroll
Heavy Metal
American Tail and American Tail 2: Fiefel Goes West
Tiny Toons: How I Spent My Summer Vacation
Steam Boy (a great steampunk anime)
The Incredibles
Shrek 1 & 2
Spirited Away

Chou Blaster
10-12-2005, 08:53 AM
Spirited Away was awesome

Incredibles and Iron Giant too.

I my fav Dinesy movie was Fantasia. (he Aweosme art of Dinesy, but not so child like.. I mean mickey goes crazy with a axe! No Gore though.)

Valle yof the Wind i salso a good movie.. The first anime I ever saw.

Graveyard of the Fireflies: GOod movie, but it will make you feel bad.

Others have been mentioned. I do not nominate Tekken.

Sure it was awesome when Kazuya flips out, but does not do justice with the Video Game.

Cyke
10-12-2005, 11:31 AM
My favorite Disney films are the Fantasia flicks, but they're not necessarily everyone's cup of tea.

What I would recommend:
The Incredibles
Iron Giant
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Grave of the Fireflies
Spirited Away

As for Princess Mononoke, it'd be pretty cool if Ashitaka was in a Mastercard commercial (if anyone here gets the joke).

Davideaux
10-12-2005, 01:10 PM
As for Princess Mononoke, it'd be pretty cool if Ashitaka was in a Mastercard commercial (if anyone here gets the joke).

I don't get it.

My five:

Spirited Away
The Incredibles
Princess Mononoke
Little Mermaid
Osmosis Jones (kidding, but it was good)

Dennis K
10-12-2005, 01:36 PM
Toy Story
Toy Story 2
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Heavy Metal
The Incredibles

Cyke
10-12-2005, 02:01 PM
I don't get it.


Billy Crudup does the voice of both Ashitaka and the Mastercard voiceover ('An evening spent drenched in wolf's blood and chopping limbs off to save the forest god from mankind's devastation: priceless.')

Artemis1
10-12-2005, 02:09 PM
Best Animated Superhero Flick: Batman: Mask of Phantasm/Batman Beyond Return of the Joker(tie)

Best CGI Flick: Incredibles

Best Animated Adaption Flick: The Iron Giant

Best Disney Film: Lion King/Tarzan(tie)

Best Other Animated Flick: Wallace and Gromit The Movie

kalorama
10-12-2005, 02:14 PM
Don't watch many animated features, but I loved Spirited Away. Got bored halfway through Princess Mononoke and turned it off.

Also liked:

The Incredibles
Iron Giant
Animatrix
Batman Beyond Return of the Joker

Joe no Sleep
10-12-2005, 03:37 PM
The Great Mouse Detective

The Three Caballeros

101 Dalamtions

Castle of Cagliostro

Sleeping Beauty

Joe no Sleep
10-12-2005, 03:39 PM
Perfect Blue
Batman: The Mask of the Phantasm
American Pop
Rock & Rule
Akira
Wizards
Green Legend Ran

Yeah I know thats more than five but that should give you a nice mix to look for.

Ugh. Rotoscoping, especially Bakshi rotoscoping, is really creepy. :eek:

Joe no Sleep
10-12-2005, 03:41 PM
Don't watch many animated features, but I loved Spirited Away. Got bored halfway through Princess Mononoke and turned it off.

Also liked:

The Incredibles
Iron Giant
Animatrix
Batman Beyond Return of the Joker

Animatrix, huh? I only the detective story. A nice, self-contained piece. When it was said that one of the characters from this whole thing would appear in the sequals, I wanted it to be the detective guy. A smart character. not the lamewad kid.

Jared
10-12-2005, 03:59 PM
Five superheroic cartoons (which I tend to prefer, as well)

Transformers the Movie
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm*
Street Fighter II, the animated movie **
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
Star Wars: Clone Wars

Comedey/musicals (bear in mind, I haven't seen a lot of really famous ones)
Shrek
Shrek 2
Beavis and Butthead Do America
Aladdin
The Lion King




*If you enjoy this check out Batman and Robin: Subzero and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. Can't speak on mystery of the Batwoman as I haven't seen it)
**if you like this, you might like Street Fighter Alpha (or Zero, I've seen it under both titles)

LordEd1976
10-13-2005, 10:29 PM
Non-Disney theater releases
1. Transformers the Movie (listening to the soundatrack as I type. Specifically the song "Dare" by Stan Bush.)
2. Batman Mask of the Phantasm
3. American Tail
4. Secret of Nimh
5. Iron Giant

Disney theater release
1. Beauty and the Beast
2. Aladdin
3. Lilo and Stitch
4. Emperor's New Groove
5. Lion King

Computer animated
1. Incredibles
2. Shrek
3. Toy Story
4. Toy Story 2
5. Monsters Inc.

Anime theater release
1. Akira
2. Princess Mononoke
3. Spirited Away
4. Cowboy Bebop the Movie (aka Knockin on Heaven's Door)
5. WXIII Patlabor the Movie

Anime home video
1. Naussica
2. Kiki's Delivery Service
3. Porco Rosso
4. Mobile Suit Gundam Trilogy
5. Dirty Pair Project Eden

Ontir
10-14-2005, 06:08 PM
1 Snow White: It was the first animated feature, and is still stunning.

2 Fantasia: Disney again re-defined what animation could be.

3 Akira: Another step forward, and aimed beyond children.

4 the Incredibles: Pure genius, all the way around.

5 Wallace & Gromit: in the Curse of the Were-Rabbit Mainly because it delivered after 3 great shorts, and proves that you don't have to be state-of-the-art, to be fantastic!

Cyke
10-14-2005, 08:37 PM
1 Snow White: It was the first animated feature, and is still stunning.

2 Fantasia: Disney again re-defined what animation could be.

3 Akira: Another step forward, and aimed beyond children.

4 the Incredibles: Pure genius, all the way around.

5 Wallace & Gromit: in the Curse of the Were-Rabbit Mainly because it delivered after 3 great shorts, and proves that you don't have to be state-of-the-art, to be fantastic!

I'd have to say that Wallace & Grommit were indeed state of the art. Everything looked so solid, composed, and smooth, and the framerate was flawless.

I'd be surprised if Wallace & Grommit weren't up for any technical awards at the Oscars.

Nick Kal
10-14-2005, 08:44 PM
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm - Classic Batman story right here.
A Nightmare Before Christmas - Tim burton's masterpiece!
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut - Hilarious Musical!
The Incredibles - Great hero flick.
Beauty and the Beast - Awesome story.

Wild Card
10-15-2005, 06:44 PM
Fire & Ice A Bakshi film, based on Frazetta's works. This might be difficult to find, and I don't think its been released on DVD.
I just pick up the DVD yesterday it has a nice hologram slipcover and inculdes the Frazetta documentary Painting With Fire. The downside is that the msrp is about $35.

Wild Card
10-15-2005, 06:52 PM
Ugh. Rotoscoping, especially Bakshi rotoscoping, is really creepy. :eek:
:confused: I have no idea what you mean. :confused: :confused:

Sanagi
10-16-2005, 03:17 AM
:confused: I have no idea what you mean. :confused: :confused:
Rotoscoping is when animators trace frames of live action film. The result is animation that looks extremely lifelike but is kind of a cheat, and usually is too distracting to be worthwhile. The human eye immediately tells the difference between lifelike movement and normal animated movement, so when rotoscoping is inserted into a cartoon it can destroy the illusion of all the other animation.

Kirayoshi
10-16-2005, 02:41 PM
Rotoscoping is when animators trace frames of live action film. The result is animation that looks extremely lifelike but is kind of a cheat, and usually is too distracting to be worthwhile. The human eye immediately tells the difference between lifelike movement and normal animated movement, so when rotoscoping is inserted into a cartoon it can destroy the illusion of all the other animation.The best use of rotoscoping ever was in the old Betty Boop cartoons by Fleischmen Studios. Three cartoons, "Old Man of the Mountain", "Snow White" and "Millie the Moocher" used rotoscope to have characters dance and lipsynch to songs by Cab Calloway, while the animators added surreal touches throughout. Thus proving that rotoscope can be used imaginatively.

Second best use of rotoscope was the video for "Take On Me" by A-ha. Fun stuff.

Okay, breaking it down by category(and keeping in mind that I don't claim to have seen everything):
Best five classic animated features:
1) Pinocchio.
2) Snow White
3) Bambi
4) Fantasia
5) Sleeping Beauty

Best recent Disney movies:
1) Aladdin
2) Lion King
3) Fantasia 2000
4) Nightmare Before Christmas
5) The Emperor's New Groove

Favorite anime features:
1) Akira
2) Spirited Away
3) Millenium Actress
4) Kiki's Delivery Service
5) Tokyo Godfathers

Best CGI:
1) The Incredibles
2) Toy Story 2
3) Shrek
4) Toy Story
5) Monsters Inc.

Favorite non-Disney/non-anime:
1) Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
2) James and the Giant Peach
3) Prince of Egypt
4) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
5) Yellow Submarine

EZMOHR
10-16-2005, 05:50 PM
1. The Lion King
2. The Iron Giant
3. Finding Nemo
4. The Incredibles
5. Titan A.E.

yeoman
10-16-2005, 11:38 PM
In no specific order:

Transformers: The Movie. It has it's good and bad moments. It has 80's music. And it is, in my experience, one of the most quotable movies I've ever seen. ("Such heroic nonsense." "Why throw your life away so recklessly!")

Castle of Cagliostro: My personal favorite Miyazaki movie. I mean, they're all good, this is just the one I like best.

The Incredibles: Just a fantastic film. On a lot of levels.

Shrek: Friggin' hilarious movie.

Artemis1
10-17-2005, 05:36 AM
Non-Disney theater releases
1. Transformers the Movie (listening to the soundatrack as I type. Specifically the song "Dare" by Stan Bush.)
2. Batman Mask of the Phantasm
3. American Tail
4. Secret of Nimh
5. Iron Giant

"Batman: Mask of Phantasm" wasn't released into theaters. Also, how did "Transforms: The Movie" do on the big screen?

The Mirrorball Man
10-17-2005, 05:41 AM
"Batman: Mask of Phantasm" wasn't released into theaters.
Actually it was. Though "Mask of the Phantasm" was originally made to go straight to video, Warner liked it enough to release it theatrically.

Artemis1
10-17-2005, 06:38 AM
Actually it was. Though "Mask of the Phantasm" was originally made to go straight to video, Warner liked it enough to release it theatrically.

In America? How did it do?

Lubichev
10-17-2005, 06:49 AM
In America? How did it do?
It was released on Christmas Day in 1993. It didn't do too well at all and was put on the store shelves about three weeks later.

Artemis1
10-17-2005, 06:57 AM
Why did it do so poorly?

The Mirrorball Man
10-17-2005, 09:30 AM
Why did it do so poorly?
Basically because it got released back when Americans weren't ready to go see an animated movie in the theatre if that damn Mouse didn't tell them to go.

yeoman
10-17-2005, 02:25 PM
Also, how did "Transforms: The Movie" do on the big screen?


From what I heard, not well. Unsurprising given it's a PG rated animated movie whose theatrical release included several swear words and featured the death of a large portion of the original cast.

LordEd1976
10-17-2005, 07:23 PM
Basically because it got released back when Americans weren't ready to go see an animated movie in the theatre if that damn Mouse didn't tell them to go.

The other part of it was Mask of the Phantasm didn't get that much advertising. It was pretty much advertised when the show was on so if you weren't watching the animated series you had no idea it existed.

Albert
10-17-2005, 10:08 PM
I just pick up the DVD yesterday it has a nice hologram slipcover and inculdes the Frazetta documentary Painting With Fire. The downside is that the msrp is about $35.

Wow... you just made my week, I have been searching for quite some time for this. Pretty pricey, but I'll pay... especially with the Frazetta doc.