Batman Dies In Infinite Crisis??

[bedbugjones]

anyone who read titans of tommarow knows the deal robin meets himself as batman in the future and future tim says batman dies in a crisis and its even in bold i think

[Nick Kal]

Well as you know if you read the story, that future is only a possibility. The Titans have to stay together to prevent it. And I think that they will.

[Lonewalker]

Yea. Nick's got it right there.

I mean, is obvious they'll keep themselves strong after that event. Mainly Tim.

[bedbugjones]

batman has to die who else will

[muimi]

batman has to die who else will


Wait until Infinite Crisis finishes to find out?

[Kid Kyoto]

Well if he's going to keep getting in fist fights with Darkseid, Superman and Bizzaro, then yes, he will die. I'm surprised he isn't a smear on the wall already.

[chriskenny]

The rumor about the story with Batman post-Infinite Crisis was...

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... following the events Bruce Wayne has been committed to Arkham Asylum and Dick Grayson has taken over as Batman. At least that is what Rich Johnston reported. Just a rumor, though.

[Lonewalker]

If he dies I guess f anboys will rave and pluck their eyes off. LOL!

[The Xenos]

He dies with Dick Grayson and a certain redhead by his side. "Second star to the right.. and straight on till morning."

Wait.. I may be thinking of anohter character at another company, becuase later you find out it was an actor playing Batman hired by the Jackal and the Nightwing from the Grayson run was the clone Ben Grayson.

Though remember folks, a story like that was published for a major character, so who knows what's cooking here.

-Xenos

[bedbugjones]

Well as you know if you read the story, that future is only a possibility. The Titans have to stay together to prevent it. And I think that they will.

the future is already set there is nothing they can do to stop it

[Guts/Batman]

the future is already set there is nothing they can do to stop it

How do we know that?

I mean, wasn't the world supposed to end when Raven's father came to conquer? And yet the Titans managed to stop that. Well, I think.

Is the story elseworld-esque? How is it determined that it will happen? Kinda like Terminator style screwed?

Then I guess, that it DC will come down to a Kingdom Come ending.

[grendel824]

the future is already set there is nothing they can do to stop it

Considering that there are already several mutually exclusive futures presented in the DCU, that statement holds little credibility. Granted, current quantum-physics-wise, you've got a point...

[Nick Kal]

If you know your future, you can do things in the past to prevent them from happening.

[PrimalScream]

i thot blue bettle was gonna die?

[Yoda]

considering what Dan Didio has said about Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman needing to stay fairly static at the ages they are and front and center in the DCU, coupled with the further statements that Superman is Clark Kent & Batman is Bruce Wayne - I would doubt Batman would die and stay dead. They might "kill" him only to immediatly reintroduce him deaged ala Green Arrow.

[PrimalScream]

considering what Dan Didio has said about Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman needing to stay fairly static at the ages they are and front and center in the DCU, coupled with the further statements that Superman is Clark Kent & Batman is Bruce Wayne - I would doubt Batman would die and stay dead. They might "kill" him only to immediatly reintroduce him deaged ala Green Arrow.

then he could talk to jason todd about being dead.

[OverMaster]

i thot blue bettle was gonna die?

Man, Blue Beetle has been already killed off.

[Jaye]

Oy.

We're gonna have a lot of these threads now aren't we?

[prand_2002]

Why the hell do you hate Batman so much that you want him to die?

[bedbugjones]

Why the hell do you hate Batman so much that you want him to die?

i dont hates batman i just need a major chrecter to die for the drama

[monkeyjunkie]

i dont hates batman i just need a major chrecter to die for the drama

Thats just stupid, death does not automatically equal drama. If a character dies and it has no real meaning to the plot, and the story doesnt real say or do anything meaningful, than no matter who dies the death was pointless. Just killing a major character because one "should" die will not add to the drama of infinite crisis, it will only make it stupider.

[prand_2002]

If major characters like Batman dies DC wud become bankrupt and Marvel would completely take over.

[bedbugjones]

no dc could continue batman tim will become him

[mattx110]

batman gets deaged and nightwing has to be batman will tim becomes nightwing and batman becomes robin. it's genius!

[1HELLBOY]

Oy.

We're gonna have a lot of these threads now aren't we?


Yeah, probably. You need any help cleaning them up, let me know.


CAUSE I HATE THESE "BATMAN'S GONNA/SHOULD DIE!!!" THREADS!!! :mad:

[Guts/Batman]

no dc could continue batman tim will become him

A wee early for Tim to become the Bat dontcha think.

I think it is a horrible idea to kill Bruce. Just utter stupidity.

Bringing him back would make his death pointless as well. Bringing back Jason after he died in A death in the Family, makes his dying in A Death in the Family pointless.

Drama is keeping Bruce alive to deal with what he has done since then events of Identity Crisis (as much as everyone dislikes it). Answering for Brother MK 1 and of his rather jerky behavior, from War Games on down. That my friend is drama.

[CjP]

the future is already set there is nothing they can do to stop it

Somebody obviously doesn't read Superman/Batman... :D

[anthony!]

Rich Johnson has reported that a major character dies in Infinite Crisis and is replaced.

I'm thinking its more likely going to be Wonder Woman, replaced with Donna Troy. DC wouldn't kill Bruce Wayne unless they had immediate plans on how to bring him back, ala The Death of Superman.

[Guts/Batman]

Don't we already know his fate after IC, anyways? Or was that during IC?

[1HELLBOY]

Don't we already know his fate after IC, anyways? Or was that during IC?

I think it's after. But don't quote me on that.

[Geardaddy]

He dies with Dick Grayson and a certain redhead by his side. "Second star to the right.. and straight on till morning."

Wait.. I may be thinking of anohter character at another company, becuase later you find out it was an actor playing Batman hired by the Jackal and the Nightwing from the Grayson run was the clone Ben Grayson.

Though remember folks, a story like that was published for a major character, so who knows what's cooking here.

-Xenos


I know this is off topic, but I just can't help but comment about how this other company ruined a great story and touching death with a meaningless return of a character by giving a competely laughable explaination of her "return".

TICKS ME OFF! :mad:

Okay, I'm better now....

[Geardaddy]

Now, to the topic at hand. I think Nick pretty much expalined it in the 1st follow up post on this thread. I do think that Infinate Crisis will leave up with our jaws on the floor as to who will die, and what will happen to some of our favorite characters, but no way will Batman die. He may see some serious changes as a result, but I don't see his death on the horizon.

[celluloid_droid]

Rich Johnson has reported that a major character dies in Infinite Crisis and is replaced.

I'm thinking its more likely going to be Wonder Woman, replaced with Donna Troy. DC wouldn't kill Bruce Wayne unless they had immediate plans on how to bring him back, ala The Death of Superman.

Damn, I was going to say that.

[trickster]

Thats just stupid, death does not automatically equal drama. If a character dies and it has no real meaning to the plot, and the story doesnt real say or do anything meaningful, than no matter who dies the death was pointless.
Heh, I guess Hawkeye from the Avengers would whole-heartedly agree.

[grendel824]

If you know your future, you can do things in the past to prevent them from happening.

Actually, supposedly not. It would be physically impossible to change events that are inevitable. The universe is supposedly constructed in such a way that the laws of physics would stop you, just as they stop you from teleporting into the center of the sun right now. You have to adhere to Everett's Many World's theory in order to get much headway with your way of thinking (and I actually am a fan of the theory), but it works in a rather peculiar way, at least my understanding of it does.

[Arkham Resident]

Agree with you,Yoda. It's a poor marketing move to have Bats die and stay dead. Any of you know how exactly Batman will be killed in Infinite Crisis should this rumor be true?

[gorosaurus]

If Batman dies, the he could be the host for the new Spectre.

Think how mean and vengeful he would be-and the most powerful member of the JLA!

[Guts/Batman]

Batman would be brought back in some form or another. He would not stay in the grave.

DC would eventually have him brought back to the world viz plot device.

Bruce being the new host for the Spectre would make complete sense to me.

[Sabrinaset]

The new host for the Spectre is going to be the Jim Corrigan running around Gotham GCPD, or whatever that comic is.

As fas as Batman, he won't die. What will happen is Dr. Double X reveals a plan that he started when he made a couple clones of Two-Face. It turns out that he made a clone of Batman a long time ago which has been wandering around the country for some time now. The clone comes back, and it turns out that the clone is actually the real Bruce Wayne, and Vice Versa. The Original Bruce Wayne takes over with a name change, maybe calling himself "The Srarlet Bat" or something, while the Clone Bruce Wayne just runs Wayne Enteprises while shacking up with his pregnant girlfriend, Selena Kyle.
I thing DC has a hit on it's hands here.

[Josh S]

If Bruce Wayne is killed they should make Jonn Jonnz the new Batman and change the title of the books to Martian Manhunter. And have "Batman" start dressing like Martian Manhunter.


Ok, enough of that.

[Kieralinn]

There is NO WAY IN HELL DC will ever kill off Batman/Bruce Wayne!

Not with...lets see..."Batman Begins" and it's sequels, "The Batman", JLU...and the other trades and toys etc all going on right now. If Batman's books were not selling well, if there were no new movies, if JLU and the other one....yuck "the Batman" were not on TV..then maybe...just to bring interest back to the character. As of right now...Bats is WAY to hot for them to do something that stupid! It would be suicide right now.....at this point...Bruce Wayne will be Batman for a long time to come.

That would be like killing off Peter Parker right now..or Logan..when there are new movies of Spidey and X-men, not to mention the Wolverine spin off in developement. And Batman's books are selling awesomely right now...

I will say it again...It will NEVER happen in the near future. I really don't think DC is that dumb. Besides...do you really think Bruce will ever die? I mean come on!! No matter how many people love Superman, Bats is the real money maker for DC...think about it. :rolleyes:

[BrianDittfeld]

Bruce Wayne isn't going to die (or broken) and he isn't going to be replaced. It's already been done during the whole Knightfall/Knightquest/KnightsEnd Saga. They aren't going to do it again. Especially since Batman is highly profitable more than ever right now.

My opinion is that Wonder Woman is the one who will "die" and be replaced by Donna Troy. That is why she's returning from the dead. There's no other good reason to revive her other than to replace Diana.

Even when you look at the last LITG, Rich says that this major player is going to die, get a mini-series, then will get a re-launched ongoing. Just like they did with Green Lantern. The fact is that DC will NEVER relaunch "Batman" or "Detective Comics."

[Thrice]

Um Bruce wayne is not going to die. Batman is not going to die. If he did die he will be resurrected in a few months. GIve me a logical reason for killing off one of the mainstays of the dc universe.

[BrianDittfeld]

To be honest, it's easy to think it's Wonder Woman simply due to process of elimination.

IMO the biggest DC characters are:

Superman -- Been dead and back.
Batman -- Got back broke, got replaced, came back to Batman role. Lame to do that again.
Flash -- Already got messed with in Crisis on Infinite Earth. Not going to do it again.
Green Lantern -- Just came back. They aren't going to screw that up already. Give them a couple years though lol.

All that's left as a major DC player is Wonder Woman.

No one gives a crap if they do something to Aquaman, Green Arrow, Hawkman, etc. because even though they have fanbases, they aren't really major players as they were a long, long time ago.

[grendel824]

There is NO WAY IN HELL DC will ever kill off Batman/Bruce Wayne!


I agree with you re: the likelihood of it happening, but not for any of the reasons you cite. There is nothing whatsoever stopping DC from killing a character in one medium (a comic) and continuing to produce mass media products with that same character. Why in the world would a dead Batman in comics stop a successful Batman movie franchise from chugging along at full speed? Even if every single person who reads the Batman comics got stupid and boycotted the movie because it doesn't reflect the comic with 100% accuracy (as though it ever did), that wouldn't scratch the surface of ticket sales. The only validity to that part of your point lies in the fact that it's likely that Warner corporate ninnies use the same bad argument to justifiy a no-killing-Bruce edict.

[PrimalScream]

the flash was killed and replaced,the green lantern was killed and replaced so maybe bruce might die and dick assumes the role.im just saying its happened with other heroes so maybe....

[BrianDittfeld]

I doubt it though because Batman/Bruce Wayne has already been replaced before. They aren't going to do it again.

[grendel824]

I doubt it though because Batman/Bruce Wayne has already been replaced before. They aren't going to do it again.

Apparently they are, because it's happening post IC. I doubt it will be permanent, but again, your reasoning for doubting it (aside from the already posted facts) is pretty unsound. I mean, Batman has also fought the Joker before - that's hardly a good reason for doubting that there will ever be a Batman story where he fights the Joker again, is it?

[Daniel Hopkins]

Yeah it'll make sense. They're getting scratched one after another, it will happen soon enough.

[Sabrinaset]

Apparently they are, because it's happening post IC.

Not saying you're wrong, but where did you hear that? Can you provide a link?
And if you're right, this is probably the reason why Batman will be more "User-friendly" after IC ... because he'll be someone else.

[Harry]

It was in Lying in the Gutters a couple weeks ago.

[grendel824]

Not saying you're wrong, but where did you hear that? Can you provide a link?
And if you're right, this is probably the reason why Batman will be more "User-friendly" after IC ... because he'll be someone else.

I don't have a link, but it's been all over the place - I know I've heard through at least three separate sources.

Granted, I won't claim I'm 100% right either until I actually see it happen (and it's not my theory, it's just what's been going around), but it seems about as solid as the idea of a "52" series and all that other junk. People I know who might otherwise say "that's bull" have been silent on the issue, so I'd be willing to wager serious but not life-changing cash on it happening.