Batman "One Year Later" : SPOILERS

[The Red Hood]

I can't believe I'm the first one to post this!

THE BIG BAT

For those of you who want to know what next year's big Batman arc, coming off of the One Year Gap, highlight the following white text.

Bruce Wayne has been committed to Arkham Asylum and Nightwing has assumed the mantle of The Batman. Nightwing, however, will continue as an ongoing comic.



And it's got the green light, folks.

I'm not sure what to make of this. It screams of retread. We saw The Batman committed to Arkham in the excellent "The Last Arkham," and we saw Dick as The Batman in "Prodigal." Why re-hash these stories now?

Discuss.

The Red Hood

[protege]

I don't think you're the first one to post this- unless you were referring to the "green light' part.But how is this possible, If NW is taking up the mantle, to publish both comics simultaneously, under the one year later banner- unless there's a new Nightwing?

[muimi]

I don't think you're the first one to post this- unless you were referring to the "green light' part.But how is this possible, If NW is taking up the mantle, to publish both comics simultaneously, under the one year later banner- unless there's a new Nightwing?

Where was this announcement first published?

And I never saw Nightwing as a mantle to be passed onto another person. As it is, Dick has no proteges... so if this is true, what gives?

[namo580]

What exactly is this "one year later" storyline? Is it just for Batman or for the entire DC Universe? Does it take place in current continuity? Who farted?

[Expletive Deleted]

Where was this announcement first published?In this week's Lying in the Gutters, CBR's rumor column. It's linked on the front page.What exactly is this "one year later" storyline? Is it just for Batman or for the entire DC Universe? Does it take place in current continuity?The whole DCU is going to skip ahead one year during INFINITE CRISIS, although the details will be filled in with a weekly comic all next year.

[The Red Hood]

To clear up any confusion, I didn't make this up.

I would have thought that the CBR forums would've picked up on this immediately...

The Red Hood

[Expletive Deleted]

It's been discussed a bit on the DC board.

[namo580]

wow...this is real crazy.

[namo580]

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38968

[protege]

Where was this announcement first published?

And I never saw Nightwing as a mantle to be passed onto another person. As it is, Dick has no proteges... so if this is true, what gives?
Unless it's been pulled, there was another post about this last night., under the 52" subject on the Dc boards.And i was simply speculating about how they were going to keep both titles running simultaneously under the "one year later" edict, if NW was going to assume the role.

[Steeven]

Could Robin maybe becoming Nightwing?

Whatever happened to Azrael?

[Sandy Hausler]

I don't think you're the first one to post this- unless you were referring to the "green light' part.But how is this possible, If NW is taking up the mantle, to publish both comics simultaneously, under the one year later banner- unless there's a new Nightwing?

How about this. When's he's in Gotham, he's Batman. When he's in Bludhaven, he's Nightwing. Simple.

Don't worry. It's only temporary.

But I mess say, if someone's going to fill in for Batman, it shoud be Dick. (I guess they learned something from the Azrael mess a few years back.)

Well, at least, Batman won't be a jerk . . . at least temporarily.

Sandy Hausler

[LukeRed5]

Does this mean that Dick Grayson/Batman will join the JLA? I wonder why Bruce is in Arkham? Is it a set up? And does the world now know Bruce is or was Batman? That could be the twist to this rehash of an old storyline. Will fans accept this?

[protege]

How about this. When's he's in Gotham, he's Batman. When he's in Bludhaven, he's Nightwing. Simple.

Don't worry. It's only temporary.

But I mess say, if someone's going to fill in for Batman, it shoud be Dick. (I guess they learned something from the Azrael mess a few years back.)

Well, at least, Batman won't be a jerk . . . at least temporarily.

Sandy Hausler
Well, ultimately, i don't really care, since i don't read either book.

[Guts/Batman]

Interesting...and disappointing at the same time.

I don't know how I feel about this development...

[The Red Hood]

Does this mean that Dick Grayson/Batman will join the JLA?

Not likely. If you read the recent articles about Infinite Crisis and "52," you'll see that it seems DC is intent on doing something different with the League, maybe even disbanding it for a while. I wouldn't be shocked in the least to see it cancelled as a result of the Crisis.

I wonder why Bruce is in Arkham?

That's the point of the story.


Is it a set up?

Could be. You'll have to read to find out.

And does the world now know Bruce is or was Batman? That could be the twist to this rehash of an old storyline.

I doubt the world will know, but it wouldn't surprise me if a few more people learn what Bruce Wayne really does with his nights. And this story is already screaming re-hash. It's going to take a lot more twists and turns to make it worthwhile.

Will fans accept this?

If they're anything like me, acceptance and support will be dictated by the story's quality. If this is a poorly-executed re-hash of two previous Batman stories, which were good in their own right, I'll not support it. If, on the other hand, this rumor is just part of bigger plans (which I tend to think is the case) I'll stick around to see how it all plays out.

Bottom line: if Bruce Wayne isn't The Batman again within a year or so, I'll drop the title along with my other DC titles. Like Jeph Loeb says, "Vote with your wallet."

The Red Hood

[Tom]

With the upcoming solicits of Nightwing in a new redder version of his costume and the hint that he's working for the bad guys, I'm wondering if Jason takes over the role for a while.

[Doug W]

Crazy baseless speculation: Bruce gets locked in Arkham because he goes on TV as Bruce Wayne and starts telling everyone hes Batman and no one belives him.

Once again this isn't based on anything, I'm just guessing.

[jwd]

Crazy baseless speculation: Bruce gets locked in Arkham because he goes on TV as Bruce Wayne and starts telling everyone hes Batman and no one belives him.

Once again this isn't based on anything, I'm just guessing.


I don't know if he'll go on tv but I'm kind of guessing sort of the same thing. Bruce Wayne will be unmasked as Batman but no one will believe he actually is Batman. Something will have happened to Batman (physically and mentally) to cause his public unmasking. Everyone will think Bruce Wayne finally snapped over his parents death. To make up for his life of Playboying after his parent's death they'll think he tried to take on the role of Batman,(a figure surrounded by mystery. He'll claim he is Batman not carrying who knows but they won't believe him. His friends will decide a Batman is needed and Bruce's cover should be maintained. Nightwing will fill in. People will see Batman is still active and Bruce Wayne will be committed for having delusions of superheroism.

[CjP]

I can't believe I'm the first one to post this!



And it's got the green light, folks.

I'm not sure what to make of this. It screams of retread. We saw The Batman committed to Arkham in the excellent "The Last Arkham," and we saw Dick as The Batman in "Prodigal." Why re-hash these stories now?

Discuss.

The Red Hood

In 'The Last Arkham', Batman committed himself (going undercover so to speak) to stop Zsasz (or something like that... I remember he did go to Arkham intentionally)...

[PatrickG]

I think it'd be somewhat interesting if we learn that the Identity Crisis mindwipe performed on Bruce has caused him to become a paranoid schizophrenic and that some of his ill-advised moves in recent years (OMAC, War Games, Tower of Babel) are things he did at the advice of his shoe or something equally unsettling.

So we get a Bruce who IS crazy struggling to regain his sanity and his mind after Dick and Alfred get him sent away to Arkham because they're afraid that he'll hurt himself and other people...

I can foresee an oddball scenario like this.

[DocSamson]

IF this is legit...(and I am by NO means convinced)...I'm willing to keep an open mind to this storyline. It presents a wealth of possibilities and lends some well-deserved gravitas to Dick Grayson...

[boy wonder]

Hurray!

I've been thinking about dropping Nightwing and Robin, but if this is true, I may start picking up Batman.

[Aufbach]

If this is true, and I'd like to see some kind of evidence supporting it (some evidence that I've perhaps missed), then I would definitely say it's a retread.

It's been done (in part) in both The Last Arkham, and in Prodigal. I have no problem with Dick Grayson assuming the Batman mantle again, temporarily, but why rehash all of this again in the "big change" Infinite Crisis? Seems like the contributors to this forum could've thought up something more original ...

And of course the Batman audience at large isn't going to accept anyone but Bruce Wayne as the "true" Batman ... and I can't say that I blame them.

[Aufbach]

I don't know if he'll go on tv but I'm kind of guessing sort of the same thing. Bruce Wayne will be unmasked as Batman but no one will believe he actually is Batman. Something will have happened to Batman (physically and mentally) to cause his public unmasking. Everyone will think Bruce Wayne finally snapped over his parents death. To make up for his life of Playboying after his parent's death they'll think he tried to take on the role of Batman,(a figure surrounded by mystery. He'll claim he is Batman not carrying who knows but they won't believe him. His friends will decide a Batman is needed and Bruce's cover should be maintained. Nightwing will fill in. People will see Batman is still active and Bruce Wayne will be committed for having delusions of superheroism.

Nice hypothesis here ... I could see this storyline playing out in one way or another. Doesn't mean I like it though. :)

[chriskenny]

Sounds alright. Need to learn more about it before I get judgmental. But I agree with the people who thinks it sounds very familiar.

Chris

[Thaddy-Boy]

So we get a Bruce who IS crazy struggling to regain his sanity and his mind after Dick and Alfred get him sent away to Arkham because they're afraid that he'll hurt himself and other people...

If I recall, Batman was shot and lost his memory or something. It was a pretty interesting story. He was just dressed in a grey body stocking or something. Anyone else recall this? Mid 80s, I believe.
Standout imagry: Bruce sitting on the top of a building piling pebbles on top of each other, making a pyramid.

[Nick Kal]

Hmm.. interesting. I do, however, hope it only goes on for an arc or maybe two.

[Nights]

Why would anyone put Bruce in a place he can break in and out of at will.

Plus why place him around super-villians that will only destract him from getting well.

Something is really odd....

[Siythe]

Been here done this, wake me when its over.

[Headhunter]

Read the spoiler awhile back, it's pretty cool. I wasn't thrilled with what I read of Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive, but this seems pretty boss.

[Autobot jake]

This really does feel like a rehashing of old ideas, at this point. Since Batman is on my pull list, i will wait it out. My complaint is that Infinite Crisis was supposed to be bringing all characters back to their core beings, which would imply the thought that Bruce is the true Batman. Unfortunately that is what the Prodigal story, and even the Az-Bats story prior were demonstrating.

Again, we'll see. Hopefully someone good will be writing it.

[multjiang]

Isn't Arkham Asylum for the criminally insane? So I don't think Bruce would be there if he simply need therapy. He might commit some kind of crime, maybe finally kill Jason Todd for good. :evilsmile

[Guts/Batman]

Isn't Arkham Asylum for the criminally insane? So I don't think Bruce would be there if he simply need therapy. He might commit some kind of crime, maybe finally kill Jason Todd for good. :evilsmile

I would probably lose all respect for DC if that were to happen.

Bring back Jason is arguably the dumbest thing that DC has ever done but that would be even dumber IMO.

[Sandy Hausler]

I would probably lose all respect for DC if that were to happen.

Bring back Jason is arguably the dumbest thing that DC has ever done but that would be even dumber IMO.

I don't know. I think Crisis was the dumbest. And Identity Crisis was pretty dumb, too. Fact is, I never liked Jason. Wouldn't have killed him, but wasn't sorry to see him go.

Sandy Hausler

[Kieralinn]

I think it'd be somewhat interesting if we learn that the Identity Crisis mindwipe performed on Bruce has caused him to become a paranoid schizophrenic and that some of his ill-advised moves in recent years (OMAC, War Games, Tower of Babel) are things he did at the advice of his shoe or something equally unsettling.

So we get a Bruce who IS crazy struggling to regain his sanity and his mind after Dick and Alfred get him sent away to Arkham because they're afraid that he'll hurt himself and other people...

I can foresee an oddball scenario like this.

I was seeing that myself, but maybe not to that degree. Something happened to him during the mind-wipe and he loses it. If this is done right, for whatever reason, I think it may make for a good story. Bruce facing his demons kind of thing. I just hope he doesn't lose his edge and get all smiley and cheerful when it's over.

As long as the whole Bruce isn't Batman is a temp thing, then I'll see where it goes. If it lasts for more than a year, I'll be pissed.

[Matches Malone]

If I recall, Batman was shot and lost his memory or something. It was a pretty interesting story. He was just dressed in a grey body stocking or something. Anyone else recall this? Mid 80s, I believe.
Standout imagry: Bruce sitting on the top of a building piling pebbles on top of each other, making a pyramid.

See Batman #380-381 & Detective #547. He took a glancing gunshot to the head and was convinced he was the Night-Slayer for a few issues. Meanwhile Night-Slayer ran around dressed up like Batman.

[Kirayoshi]

Another theory regarding the possible One Year Later plotline;

During the missing year, Commissioner Akins proves to be smarter than the average Gotham cop by discovering that Batman is in fact Bruce Wayne. He sends a hand-picked squad of cops to arrest Bruce. Bruce, caught by surprise(and possibly driven to the limits of exhaustion by his ongoing war with either Black Mask or Red Hood), puts up resistance but is finally overcome by sheer numbers. He awakens in Arkham, heavily sedated and in a straightjacket, to the stony face of Commissioner Akins. Akins reveals that he has arranged for Bruce to be declared mentally unfit to stand trial, arranging for a 'friendly' judge to commit Bruce to Arkham, presumably for the rest of his life. He realizes that putting the famous millionaire on trial for being Batman would result in a media circus maximus, so he has arranged for Bruce to, in Akins' words, "rot in Arkham, where you belong. And if one of the regulars stabs you in your sleep, then problem solved." Of course, Bruce being Bruce, he has a plan.

Akins isn't a crooked cop, but perhaps he realizes that Batman simply can't be put on trial like any other criminal, without making the fallout from War Games look like a love-in. One thing I do hope for regarding this story; maybe by combining their efforts to save Bruce, Nightwing, Robin, Alfred, Barbara and Batgirl can reforge the Bat Family, and give Bruce back his support system when he returns to the Batcave.

[Kieralinn]

Another theory regarding the possible One Year Later plotline;

During the missing year, Commissioner Akins proves to be smarter than the average Gotham cop by discovering that Batman is in fact Bruce Wayne. He sends a hand-picked squad of cops to arrest Bruce. Bruce, caught by surprise(and possibly driven to the limits of exhaustion by his ongoing war with either Black Mask or Red Hood), puts up resistance but is finally overcome by sheer numbers. He awakens in Arkham, heavily sedated and in a straightjacket, to the stony face of Commissioner Akins. Akins reveals that he has arranged for Bruce to be declared mentally unfit to stand trial, arranging for a 'friendly' judge to commit Bruce to Arkham, presumably for the rest of his life. He realizes that putting the famous millionaire on trial for being Batman would result in a media circus maximus, so he has arranged for Bruce to, in Akins' words, "rot in Arkham, where you belong. And if one of the regulars stabs you in your sleep, then problem solved." Of course, Bruce being Bruce, he has a plan.

Akins isn't a crooked cop, but perhaps he realizes that Batman simply can't be put on trial like any other criminal, without making the fallout from War Games look like a love-in. One thing I do hope for regarding this story; maybe by combining their efforts to save Bruce, Nightwing, Robin, Alfred, Barbara and Batgirl can reforge the Bat Family, and give Bruce back his support system when he returns to the Batcave.


You should write that as a fan-fic. I would read it. Though it sounds a lot like BW:Murderer. But so what... ;)

[magnus4001]

I'm not quite sure I like the idea of Dick taking over as Batman (again). Chuck Dixon worked hard to make sure Nightwing was no longer seen as Batman, jr. during his tenure on Nightwing's book. Somehow, having Dick take over as Batman, rather than just continue as Nightwing (and only Nightwing) seems counter to this, asthough he's still in Batman's shadow.

We'll have to wait and see what happens, I guess. Maybe the fact that BOTH Batman and Nightwing will be continuing publication after OYL will solve things; Maybe there's a spin to make this work out.

[Sandy Hausler]

Another theory regarding the possible One Year Later plotline;

During the missing year, Commissioner Akins proves to be smarter than the average Gotham cop by discovering that Batman is in fact Bruce Wayne. He sends a hand-picked squad of cops to arrest Bruce. Bruce, caught by surprise(and possibly driven to the limits of exhaustion by his ongoing war with either Black Mask or Red Hood), puts up resistance but is finally overcome by sheer numbers. He awakens in Arkham, heavily sedated and in a straightjacket, to the stony face of Commissioner Akins. Akins reveals that he has arranged for Bruce to be declared mentally unfit to stand trial, arranging for a 'friendly' judge to commit Bruce to Arkham, presumably for the rest of his life. He realizes that putting the famous millionaire on trial for being Batman would result in a media circus maximus, so he has arranged for Bruce to, in Akins' words, "rot in Arkham, where you belong. And if one of the regulars stabs you in your sleep, then problem solved." Of course, Bruce being Bruce, he has a plan.

Akins isn't a crooked cop, but perhaps he realizes that Batman simply can't be put on trial like any other criminal, without making the fallout from War Games look like a love-in. One thing I do hope for regarding this story; maybe by combining their efforts to save Bruce, Nightwing, Robin, Alfred, Barbara and Batgirl can reforge the Bat Family, and give Bruce back his support system when he returns to the Batcave.

Uh, that would keep Batman out of circulation for about five minutes.

It's more likely that he was driven insane (temporarily) by the events in OMAC. We'll see.

Sandy Hausler

[PatrickG]

I don't see how a cop who ISN'T crooked could put someone (even a major vigilante) in a place with people who would kill him, given the chance.

Now, on the other hand, I could see Atkins putting Bruce on trial and Bruce's trump card being an insanity plea because Bruce would rather live in Arkham than jail. From there, we see him running the place, Hogan's Heroes style. Thwarting criminals from the inside and generally establishing himself as the big dog inmate.

I imagine the doctors would show some concern and, say, question Bruce about Mad Hatter's latest injuries.

Bruce shoots a look at the Hatter, grimacing.

The Hatter replies, "Ah... I fell down some stairs."

The doctor scratches his head. "Mister Tetch, we don't have stairs in the patient approved areas."

The Hatter, flustered, answers, "Oh. Dear. I must be more confused than I thought. Thank Heaven I'm in a safe place where I can get the help I so need."

The doctor shoots a look at Wayne who smiles and shrugs.

[Karl J. Barnes]

I know what I'd rather see: Bruce sitting on a beach somewhere, sipping on a drink with either Selina or Diana or both next to him. This guy needs a vacation in a big way.

[CaptMagellan]

I know what I'd rather see: Bruce sitting on a beach somewhere, sipping on a drink with either Selina or Diana or both next to him. This guy needs a vacation in a big way.

I'd buy a three issue arc of that story "Bruce Wayne: On Vacation"

What I expect is that they're going to make it that Bruce is really unhinged. My worst fear would be...

"I'm the world's greatest detective, my mind makes me the most dangerous man on earth, I'm brilliant! They did it. They took 10 minutes from my mind. I can't trust anyone anymore. I can't trust myself anymore. I don't know what to trust. Clark, why didn't you help me? Dick take the mantle. I can't handle it anymore. Dick help me. Alfred help me! Mommy! Daddy!"

If they throw him in unjustly, then it's just a retread of Bruce Wayne:Murderer. If they make him honestly needing the incarceration, it'll be even worse in my opinion and I really don't want to read it.

[agentofthebat]

One Year Later im still a little lost what do you mean? We are going to have a ton of comics of what would be going on a year from now? anyone got a link to it on dc i wanna read it

[hotrodimus]

well during COIE, wally replaced barry for good.
actually im hoping this time dick replaces bruce for good. but im open for bruce coming back from time on time, but dick should now be the batman.

[bones mccoy]

killing off batman would be DC's last publicity stunt if he was brought back in regular contuinity...
see: death and return of superman...

if they killed off bats and kept him dead it would be headline news around the world... but everyone knew superman was coming back...

[boy wonder]

I just had an idea of something that could happen. What if Tim Drake joins the military group he's been thinking about joining in the current Robin storyline and Dick Grayson (As Batman) starts training a new Robin?

Or maybe Tim takes over as Nightwing and Dick trains a new Robin...

Anyway, thoughts?

[Kirayoshi]

Uh, that would keep Batman out of circulation for about five minutes.

It's more likely that he was driven insane (temporarily) by the events in OMAC. We'll see.

Sandy Hausler
There's no reason that both our plotlines couldn't work in the same instance. I also indicated that Bruce may have been driven to (or even past) the brink of physical and mental exhaustion by his ongoing war with Black Mask and OMAC. Not to mention building guilt complex (over Spoiler's death, Black Mask's ascendency, etc) and of course the mental tampering done in Identity Crisis may contribute to Batman running on only half-cylinders.

Or, as has been suggested elsewhere on this thread, Bruce wants to make sure that Arkham's regulars don't go through the old Arkham revolving door. Kind of like Rosharch in Watchmen: "You don't get it. I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me."

[multjiang]

Another idea - what if Bruce would die (or gravely hurt) in Infinite Crisis and be brought back with Lazarus pit? The whole insanity could be the side effect of the pit...okay I hate this idea myself. But Talia is involved - who knows?

[Tsoul]

maybe nightwing will go on but it won't skip ahead like one year later.

[The Red Hood]

maybe nightwing will go on but it won't skip ahead like one year later.

ALL DC books will be jumping forward one year later after Infinite Crisis. This is not conjecture. Read it here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38968).

The Red Hood

[Windbreaker]

The most logical story is this:
Bruce Wayne feels outraged and betrayed by Devin Grayson's mistreatment of Nightwing. He outs her as a hack, which forces her to sign a contract with Marvel, to write a House of M book. This kills her career, which Superman believes is equivalent to murder. The JLA agree that Bruce must be committed.

[Private America]

But I mess say, if someone's going to fill in for Batman, it shoud be Dick. (I guess they learned something from the Azrael mess a few years back.)

The way Dick Grayson is being portrayed in the NIGHTWING book, I'd say he's in no shape to continue as a hero, let alone assume the mantle of the bat.

[magnus4001]

The most logical story is this:
Bruce Wayne feels outraged and betrayed by Devin Grayson's mistreatment of Nightwing. He outs her as a hack, which forces her to sign a contract with Marvel, to write a House of M book. This kills her career, which Superman believes is equivalent to murder. The JLA agree that Bruce must be committed.

Of course! It all makes sense. Nice sleuthing.

[Optimus]

Dick Grayson: Substitute Batman. When Batman has a sick day, good ol' Dick is there for role call.

[Geardaddy]

I don't know if he'll go on tv but I'm kind of guessing sort of the same thing. Bruce Wayne will be unmasked as Batman but no one will believe he actually is Batman. Something will have happened to Batman (physically and mentally) to cause his public unmasking. Everyone will think Bruce Wayne finally snapped over his parents death. To make up for his life of Playboying after his parent's death they'll think he tried to take on the role of Batman,(a figure surrounded by mystery. He'll claim he is Batman not carrying who knows but they won't believe him. His friends will decide a Batman is needed and Bruce's cover should be maintained. Nightwing will fill in. People will see Batman is still active and Bruce Wayne will be committed for having delusions of superheroism.

I think something like this would make for a very intersting story, so long as it's done right. I think it would also be an intersting dynamic to have Dick take up the mantle of Batman while Bruce is "unavailable".

[agentofthebat]

so than what happens with what we will miss in the year jump?

[magnus4001]

so than what happens with what we will miss in the year jump?

DC will be publishing a series called 52 that fills in the stories for all their characters from that skipped year, Batman included.

[Geardaddy]

DC will be publishing a series called 52 that fills in the stories for all their characters from that skipped year, Batman included.

This is pretty much the first I've heard of this series. Do you have any more details on it, like who the creative team(s) will be, and how they plan on tying it all together?

It sounds like an interesting idea.

[magnus4001]

This is pretty much the first I've heard of this series. Do you have any more details on it, like who the creative team(s) will be, and how they plan on tying it all together?

It sounds like an interesting idea.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38968

Try reading this interview with Dan Didio from Newsarama. It should answer any of your questions better than I could.

[The Joker]

Dick Grayson: Substitute Batman. When Batman has a sick day, good ol' Dick is there for role call.

It always seems that way.

Not too hot on the idea of Grayson taking over the mantle of the Bat, but we'll see how this develops. It could be an interesting story behind this for all we know, although initially it screams retread.

[Sandy Hausler]

The way Dick Grayson is being portrayed in the NIGHTWING book, I'd say he's in no shape to continue as a hero, let alone assume the mantle of the bat.

From what I have seen of Batman these days, assuming the mantle of the bat is no great shakes. I'm not loving what's going on in Nightwing's book these days, but I assume it's leading to something heroic, and at worst, the current storyline will be over soon (I hope).

Sandy Hausler

[PrimalScream]

i could see dick as bats again.love to c hw he copes with it being around superman n that.i bet supes would say sumthing like "its not the mantle i would have chose the lad to bear". i bet bruce sets the whole thing up for some reason or maybe he dies n is subjected to a certain lazuaus pit maybe.

[Sizzle]

My first post!

I thought I read that One Year Later takes place in the month between the last two issues of Infinite Crisis? If so, maybe it's just part of the story that Bruce is commited to Arkham, but is not after the finale and the universe is back in harmony...

Considering that they keep saying Infinite Crisis is a sequel to the Crisis, I keep thinking that the multiverse was never fixed and is starting to come undone. For instance, Jason Todd/Red Hood could be from a different Earth. That may explain his apparent aging. He looks like he's almost as old as Dick, where he should only be a few years older then Tim. Roughly I would guess he'd be 19 or 20, with Tim at 16, Dick at 25, and Bruce at 35.

[bones mccoy]

batman one year later:
one of the other hero's bruce trusts is masquarding as bats while bruce is in arkham...

dick grayson is dead after jason todd/Joker II kills him and falls into a nasty bit of acid...

tim drake is nightwing...

and joker I is dead killed by jason todd...

[The Xenos]

And it turns out Ben Riley was the real Batman and the we've known since Zero Hour has been a clone. Remember, the more complex and confusing the story and backstory, the better a comic book is.

/sarcasm
-Xenos

[Thaddy-Boy]

is crazy talk.
When Superman had his uniform changed, it was sacrelige. This is the same.
Plus, it's happened before. When Bane took Batman out, it got all stupid.
Don't mess with the Batman universe. I contend that he's a more important character than Superman (my purely biased opinion)

[Guts/Batman]

And it turns out Ben Riley was the real Batman and the we've known since Zero Hour has been a clone. Remember, the more complex and confusing the story and backstory, the better a comic book is.

/sarcasm
-Xenos

*sarcasm* You mean Marvel was playing a cross company trick on us!?!?! :eek:

Anyways, The Joker is back in Batman 643 or 644. I don't think that Joker will die.

[benking]

My first post!

I thought I read that One Year Later takes place in the month between the last two issues of Infinite Crisis? If so, maybe it's just part of the story that Bruce is commited to Arkham, but is not after the finale and the universe is back in harmony...

Considering that they keep saying Infinite Crisis is a sequel to the Crisis, I keep thinking that the multiverse was never fixed and is starting to come undone. For instance, Jason Todd/Red Hood could be from a different Earth. That may explain his apparent aging. He looks like he's almost as old as Dick, where he should only be a few years older then Tim. Roughly I would guess he'd be 19 or 20, with Tim at 16, Dick at 25, and Bruce at 35.


Great idea. I've been wondering how they're going to explain the return of Jason Todd. You may be on to something!

Personally, I wish they'd undo the original Crisis and bring back all the alternate earths. I've always felt a little ... dead inside since Earth-Prime was wiped out. Also, we need Earth-S -- Shazam and the Marvel Family and the big worm just don't fit in with the rest of the DCU.

[The Xenos]

is crazy talk.
When Superman had his uniform changed, it was sacrelige. This is the same.
Plus, it's happened before. When Bane took Batman out, it got all stupid.
Don't mess with the Batman universe. I contend that he's a more important character than Superman (my purely biased opinion)

In hindsight, knowing that Bruce would take back the mantle, I rather like the Az-bats story. Though I'm sure at the time I would have been fuming. I was just getting into comics back then and I was simply confused to see him on the cover.

-Xenos

[Geardaddy]

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38968

Try reading this interview with Dan Didio from Newsarama. It should answer any of your questions better than I could.

Excellent! Thanks, man! :)

[magnus4001]

Excellent! Thanks, man! :)

No problem.

[mohammedali]

I think this is too obvious. I wouldn't be suprised if this was a form of misdirection by DC, or worse, just some rumours. Personally, I recon that Todd is going to be the next Batman and that will be the big shock 1 year after. I think it's a bit too coincidental that he just came back before Inifinte starts.

Mohammed Ali

[Sixgun_Samurai]

I think makeing Dick a temp Batman is ok, if only done once or twice.
He erned his own id as Nightwing. Takeing that away from the history of dc and the readers is a shamful thing to do. How many other sidekicks have acctually gone as far as dick has gone. None realy how many pepole realy know who Ray Harper really is? Sidekicks are kinda lame to begin with do not take the only good example we have and just erase him that is just lazy and wrong IMHO.