eye beams

[PrimalScream]

if cyclop's head hadn't been damaged in that plane crash when he was a child would he be able to comtrol them noe?why doesn't xavier fix the damaged part of the brain?

[The Lucky One]

Yes, he would. And Xavier hasn't fixed them because he's a bleeding useless old fart who hasn't actually helped a single one of his students with their powers since the 60s. And yes, this question should be in the "Post your various questions about the X-Men here" thread.

-D

[igarath]

Yes, he would. And Xavier hasn't fixed them because he's a bleeding useless old fart who hasn't actually helped a single one of his students with their powers since the 60s.

-D

wow.. actually, didn't think of it that way...
who did he actually help?!

[The Lucky One]

Well, he uh... oh! He helped Jean Grey with her telepathy. Yeah, he did do that. And the damn bald cripple's been getting by on that rep for 40-odd years. Vote for change!

-D

[Flight]

The Professor helped Psylocke with her shoe collection once.
Might have been her secondry mutation and he was 'aiding her'.
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!

[Vegetarian Goat]

It seems to me that a lot of the X-Men didn't require his help...

Like, Colossus was pretty much in control of his powers when Xavier came to get him. Same thing With Storm and Nightcrawler. Although, to be fair, he saved Kurt from that mob, and Storm from a life of nakedness and worship...

He definitely hasn't helped Rogue, and it doesn't seem to me that he's done anything to cure Wolverine of his psychotic tendencies...

Kitty didn't really need help, so much as training...
Gambit, Dazzler, Psylocke, Emma, Jubilee, Banshee, and Bishop all got by without his help..

It's beginning to look like Xavier's only purpose is to play Mother Superior...

[Huzzah!]

well the vast vast vast vast majority of mutants should be born with the ways to control their powers.

The ones that cant really are Rogue (mental thing) and Cyclops (fell on a rock)

[The Lucky One]

Here's how it goes down: everybody's all, "Boo-hoo-hoo, waaah, my powers don't work! Mr. Professor Xavier sir, could you find it in that big, handicapped heart of yours to help me?", and Chuck's all, "Yo, bitch, don't even worry, I got this... ain't no thang." Then he throws them on a team and sends them into certain death daily just, you know, for something to do while he's getting that cure all ready, and next thing you know, BAM!- 20 years gone by and you've got jack-all. That's wack.

Meanwhile, who gets actual help? X-Statix, with all them containment and desensitizing suits. Hmm, rich celebrities get results while the common man on the street gets the shaft... funny how that works, huh Chuck? Punk-ass bitch. Guess we know how that mansion keeps getting rebuilt, huh?

-D

[Vegetarian Goat]

Meanwhile, who gets actual help? X-Statix, with all them containment and desensitizing suits. Hmm, rich celebrities get results while the common man on the street gets the shaft... funny how that works, huh Chuck? Punk-ass bitch. Guess we know how that mansion keeps getting rebuilt, huh?

-D

Hey man, some of his students got special helping things... like.. um..

Angel! Angel had some special... leather straps to keep his wings folded. That's something, right? Then again, Angel was rich, and probably helping to fund the school...

Geez... Professor X DOES suck!

[Huzzah!]

see thats why i hate x-statix.

Its the same story ever 6 issues. Some people die, someone gets an xavier suit, etc.


]God such crap

[Flight]

The Professor helped Colossus set up his eisel once.

He does help his students!! You guys are missing the nickel for the dime if you get what I mean.

[Tobias March]

Y'know I figured the only way Xavier was really helping them was providing them with a role and function - being X-Men, particularly with Wolverine.

BKV, however, has been experimenting with Xavier quite welll...Rogue was even helped by Fenris and it looks like Gambit is having better luck defeating her mental block than in Milligan's title :)

But on topic - yes I've always believed that had Cyclops not hit that rock he would be far more powerful. Like a human salamander. Charged with solar energy. Possibly with knock-on effects like agility, speed etc., perhaps even some regenerative abilities (the man's eyes are converting huge amounts of solar energy into concussive blasts stored within his body.....that's gonna lead to some wear and tear without the ability to repair).

And that's why I will always hate Marvel alternate X-over realities! How come Cyke falls on that bloody rock in every single one!!!

[ocelotrevs]

It's more of a physiological thing than a psychic thing. He actually damage the part of the brain that would control his power, and Xavier can't really go into his mind too reset it.
But Beast could probably jiffy something up, but it's part of Cyclops like his Achilles heel.
There was a recent thread asking why disabled charecters don't get sorted out, it's part of their make up and it makes them more human

[North]

Xavier has helped train the x men, just more in the use of thier powers and teamwork, and less in the limits they have.

Also some food for thought Mimic had cyclops eye blasts and he still needs the goggles to use them proper like, and he was never brain damaged......

[Zeta]

It's more of a physiological thing than a psychic thing. He actually damage the part of the brain that would control his power, and Xavier can't really go into his mind too reset it.
But Beast could probably jiffy something up, but it's part of Cyclops like his Achilles heel.
There was a recent thread asking why disabled charecters don't get sorted out, it's part of their make up and it makes them more human

Beast nothin'! It'd be easier to slip Elixir a couple of extra "A"s to bribe him to patch him up in a couple of seconds. :p

[MrBiggs7]

...and Storm from a life of nakedness and worship...


:rolleyes: Oh yeah, please someone save the sexy chocolate woman from being naked and worshipped. End sarcasm.

I brought this up in the various questions thread and nobody has convinced me that Elixer couldn't fix it.

[Huzzah!]

have they ever followed up with those worshippers because that is a story right there.


Maybe like some kids have grown up never really seeing her.

there are like

storm atheist


bold

[MrBiggs7]

have they ever followed up with those worshippers because that is a story right there.


Maybe like some kids have grown up never really seeing her.

there are like

storm atheist


bold

Dude, you're like my favorite CBR poster.

[twilight]

see thats why i hate x-statix.

Its the same story ever 6 issues. Some people die, someone gets an xavier suit, etc.


]God such crap

If I knew where you lived i'd punch you in the face.

JK :D

But don't bag X-statix.

[Rachel Grey]

have they ever followed up with those worshippers because that is a story right there.


Maybe like some kids have grown up never really seeing her.

there are like

storm atheist


bold

Damn. There's a mini or two right there... Well done! :)

[The Lucky One]

Also some food for thought Mimic had cyclops eye blasts and he still needs the goggles to use them proper like, and he was never brain damaged......

No, he doesn't need the goggles. He used them back in the 60s, but he hasn't used them since. Neither the regular nor the Exiles version use them anymore, and the Exiles one only used them for extra control. He can still open his eyes without them, and frequently does.

-D

[atoningunifex]

Here's how it goes down: everybody's all, "Boo-hoo-hoo, waaah, my powers don't work! Mr. Professor Xavier sir, could you find it in that big, handicapped heart of yours to help me?", and Chuck's all, "Yo, bitch, don't even worry, I got this... ain't no thang." Then he throws them on a team and sends them into certain death daily just, you know, for something to do while he's getting that cure all ready, and next thing you know, BAM!- 20 years gone by and you've got jack-all. That's wack.

Meanwhile, who gets actual help? X-Statix, with all them containment and desensitizing suits. Hmm, rich celebrities get results while the common man on the street gets the shaft... funny how that works, huh Chuck? Punk-ass bitch. Guess we know how that mansion keeps getting rebuilt, huh?

-D

Yeah.

But, dearheart, who is really to blame about that? Is it Chuck? Oh no, it isn't Chuck.

it's the fanboys who whine and moan every time a character sees even an ounce of actual change.

If Charles "fixed" Cyke's head then you'd see an outcry of "Part of what made Cyclops Cylcops was his lack of control! Now he's just another character! This is sacrilege! SACRILEGE!!!!!!" And the moaning would go on and on and on until someone came and re-injured Cyke or retconned it out of existence.

it ain't Chuck's fault. It's the fault of every person who says "Only mutants should be in the X-Men or else there's no point!" and "Stupid writers change things just to change things and ahve no respect for continuity! These characters are like they are for a REASON!"

Give poor Chuck a break, man. How can he compete with fanboy changefear?

[Dizzy D]

Yeah.

But, dearheart, who is really to blame about that? Is it Chuck? Oh no, it isn't Chuck.

it's the fanboys who whine and moan every time a character sees even an ounce of actual change.

If Charles "fixed" Cyke's head then you'd see an outcry of "Part of what made Cyclops Cylcops was his lack of control! Now he's just another character! This is sacrilege! SACRILEGE!!!!!!" And the moaning would go on and on and on until someone came and re-injured Cyke or retconned it out of existence.

it ain't Chuck's fault. It's the fault of every person who says "Only mutants should be in the X-Men or else there's no point!" and "Stupid writers change things just to change things and ahve no respect for continuity! These characters are like they are for a REASON!"

Give poor Chuck a break, man. How can he compete with fanboy changefear?


I like "mutaphobia" better than "changefear", it also has some irony in it when it comes to X-men comics.

[The Lucky One]

I brought this up in the various questions thread and nobody has convinced me that Elixer couldn't fix it.

Just trying to remember- does Cyclops actually know it was brain damage that keeps him from controlling his optic blasts? We know, of course, but I'm trying to recall if it's been actually said by characters, or just mentioned in narrative boxes. Hmmm. Anybody know?

-D

[Sheldon]

If Xorn can have a helmet that can contain a black hole head....Cyke should be able to get some bionic brain gizmo to control the blasts...Hell all that nano tech mumbo jumbo should be able to do it...

[Dizzy D]

Just trying to remember- does Cyclops actually know it was brain damage that keeps him from controlling his optic blasts? We know, of course, but I'm trying to recall if it's been actually said by characters, or just mentioned in narrative boxes. Hmmm. Anybody know?

-D

I'm pretty sure he does know. If not from the beginning, then at least since Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, where he could control his blast in that cloned body.

[Huzzah!]

If I knew where you lived i'd punch you in the face.

JK :D

But don't bag X-statix.


Im gonna double bag it it was so awful.

[xnef1025]

I just assume that Josh can't fix it because mucking with Cyke's brain would be too risky for a relativly untrained healer. Maybe when he's older and learned more. Of course then, Cyclops would have to become "Red-Eye-Beam-Man" until Logan goes evil(again) and cuts one of his eyes out. And Josh doesn't heal it because... ummm..... Scott's Medicare doesn't cover it... yeah, that's it. :p

[DDM]

well the vast vast vast vast majority of mutants should be born with the ways to control their powers.

The ones that cant really are Rogue (mental thing) and Cyclops (fell on a rock)

Xavier really could not help Rogue since he could not read her mind thanks to the Ms. Marvel/Carol Danvers persona she absorbed into her mind. There was also a factor that Carol's kree-human hybrid genes set up a mental roadblock for Xavier. However, it's true that Rogue in not able to control her own powers are purely psychological.

[DDM]

Xavier helped Scott by giving him ruby lens glasses since he could not fix the damage part of the brain which controls Scott's mutant power.

[Dizzy D]

Xavier helped Scott by giving him ruby lens glasses since he could not fix the damage part of the brain which controls Scott's mutant power.

Scott was already wearing ruby glasses before he met Xavier. The orphanage sent him to an eye specialist when he suffered from severe headaches in his youth and that eye specialist (possibly Sinister in disguise, because it was later revealed that Sinister knew about the ruby quartz) prescribed the red glasses.

[Ever9]

Although, to be fair, he saved Kurt from that mob, and Storm from a life of nakedness and worship...

BWAH! :D :D :D :D

[Be Stiff]

That whole "fell on a rock" plot point is utter crap, anyway. Fall on your head from a plane = dead.

[The Lucky One]

That whole "fell on a rock" plot point is utter crap, anyway. Fall on your head from a plane = dead.

When you have a parachute on?

-D

[karasu]

He helps them by giving them a purpose. He gives kids a place to go to school where they won't be bullied and mistreated for being mutants. He works with politicians, fights for mutant equality, etcetera etcetera. He isn't Dr. Magic mutie, he can't simply go inside someone's head and erase their problems. HE can't repair a damaged cerebral cortex. What would they ever learn if he operated that way? He offers guidance.