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jboncha
07-12-2005, 10:44 PM
Does anyone have any idea how long Bachalo is scheduled to be on UXM?








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Beast
07-12-2005, 10:48 PM
He's the new permanent artist. So.... until Marvel announces the next permanent artist. Hopefully this happens in 6-12 months. Not a fan of Bachalo's style. :(

jboncha
07-12-2005, 10:51 PM
He's the new permanent artist. So.... until Marvel announces the next permanent artist. Hopefully this happens in 6-12 months. Not a fan of Bachalo's style. :(
I actually like Bachalo's artwork but I wouldnt be disappointed with only 6 or 12 issues.






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Babylon23
07-13-2005, 12:39 AM
I'm a fan of Bachalo's artwork. However, I don't think we'll see many consecutive issue from him. As Alan Davis' run shows, Marvel is producing 18 issues a year, and most artists can't produce that many issues.

I'd like to see Marvel name 2 alternating ongoing artists for X-Man, possibly Bachalo and Raney. At least there would be some consistency on the book. At the moment, we have 1 ongoing artist, with different fillin artists every 3-5 issues. I find that this really disrupts the flow of Claremont's big story arcs.

The Dosadi Experiment
07-13-2005, 01:54 AM
I think Bachallo is a tremendous artist, although recently, reading fables, I realized that the one who inks him has a fairly big influence on what the actual product comes to look like.

Personally I hope he'll stay on for more than a year, after all, I'm willing to let him adapt his style to the writer and the writer to his style, and overall, I want the readers to be able to adapt to his style as well. Artists need some time on a title in order to get into the groove of things. Readers need to time to adjust to a new artist.

I remember Duncan Rouleau's work on X-factor, I hated it when I first saw it, and I mean I despised it with a burning passion that would make the devil blush, but after a while I was used to his style, I came to appreciate it, respect it, and I even became a fan of his work, seeking it out wherever I could.

Bachalo is the same in that regard, both men have a fairly unconventional style, and both need some time to get used to.

Realistically, I think he'll produce around 12 issues, with here and there a guest-penciller for an arc or two.

The last time Bachalo was on a project that lasted more than twelve issues was when he was on Steampunk, and that was partially creator-owned if I recall correctly.

The Dosadi Experiment
07-13-2005, 01:55 AM
I'm a fan of Bachalo's artwork. However, I don't think we'll see many consecutive issue from him. As Alan Davis' run shows, Marvel is producing 18 issues a year, and most artists can't produce that many issues.

I'd like to see Marvel name 2 alternating ongoing artists for X-Man, possibly Bachalo and Raney. At least there would be some consistency on the book. At the moment, we have 1 ongoing artist, with different fillin artists every 3-5 issues. I find that this really disrupts the flow of Claremont's big story arcs.

Please, pick anyone but Raney.

His recent art on the title was extremely dissapointing. The man can do some great visuals, but at the same time, he can pump out some incredibly awkward and lackluster work.

Titan Slade
07-13-2005, 09:27 AM
Does anyone have any idea how long Bachalo is scheduled to be on UXM?

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Forever and ever :D .

DDM
07-13-2005, 09:32 AM
Chris Bachalo's first issue is the third part of "Season of the Witch" in Uncanny X-Men #464. I wish Alan Davis had the patience to at least finish this arc before he left the book entirely...

Dussan
07-13-2005, 11:01 AM
I'm a fan of Bachalo's artwork. However, I don't think we'll see many consecutive issue from him. As Alan Davis' run shows, Marvel is producing 18 issues a year, and most artists can't produce that many issues.

I'd like to see Marvel name 2 alternating ongoing artists for X-Man, possibly Bachalo and Raney. At least there would be some consistency on the book. At the moment, we have 1 ongoing artist, with different fillin artists every 3-5 issues. I find that this really disrupts the flow of Claremont's big story arcs.


Best idea I have ever heard.

McFarlane did this with his bi-monthly Spawn back in the day.

But I agree, you get two artist have them work on a story arc that way you pump out the good stuff every issue.

Flight
07-13-2005, 11:22 AM
He's on until 736

For the Good of X
07-13-2005, 01:44 PM
He's on until 736

Does this mean he'll be drawing Havok's saggy....?

Expletive Deleted
07-13-2005, 01:47 PM
He's on until 736#466-735 will be fill-ins, though.

jadegiant77
07-13-2005, 02:15 PM
God, now I have another reason to avoid Uncanny X-men like a plague carrying rat! Bachalo's art makes my eyes bleed. It was cool at first on Generation X, but now he has this lame ass pseudo manga style that really is ugly as hell. Where the hell is Roger Cruz, Wilice Portacio, and Jose Laddron? I'd kill to see any one of these guys on Uncanny!

fishtaco
07-13-2005, 02:33 PM
Chris Bachalo is terrible. Im going to continue reading this because Chris Claremont makes it the best book, but a lot of it is going to be miserable. Bachalo is just horrible. His work on the AOA mini was horrible. His work on Generation X was...horrible.

Marty4Magik
07-13-2005, 02:43 PM
I disagree.
I LOVED Bachello's art on Generation X and both Death mini's, but I agree with you on his recent work...

But Roger Cruz, Ladronn....That would be great. :cool:

I really hope Bachello's style is more 'clearer' now....

Dussan
07-13-2005, 02:47 PM
I disagree.
I LOVED Bachello's art on Generation X and both Death mini's, but I agree with you on his recent work...

But Roger Cruz, Ladronn....That would be great. :cool:

I really hope Bachello's style is more 'clearer' now....

Chris does good work. Generation X run was excellent.

And hiswork on the Ultimate X-men was good. The Ultimates cross over.

Huzzah!
07-13-2005, 02:56 PM
i think his art probably depends on teh script he gets. If he gets a very lite script he probably is more muddled. You give him a full script i bet it will reign him in

Babylon23
07-13-2005, 11:32 PM
Please, pick anyone but Raney.

His recent art on the title was extremely dissapointing. The man can do some great visuals, but at the same time, he can pump out some incredibly awkward and lackluster work.

Okay, so maybe not Raney, but i'd like to see somebody named as a second artist. Back in the Australian Outback days, Silvestri was the regular artist, with Leonardi as regular fill-in artist. So if Silvestri was late, at least ou'd know what to expect artistically. With the 2 artists alternating story arcs, there was a consistancy to the book that recent Uncanny issues lack.

Babylon23
07-13-2005, 11:38 PM
Please, pick anyone but Raney.

His recent art on the title was extremely dissapointing. The man can do some great visuals, but at the same time, he can pump out some incredibly awkward and lackluster work.

Okay, so maybe not Raney, but i'd like to see somebody named as a second artist. Back in the Australian Outback days, Silvestri was the regular artist, with Leonardi as regular fill-in artist. So if Silvestri was late, at least ou'd know what to expect artistically. With the 2 artists alternating story arcs, there was a consistancy to the book that recent Uncanny issues lack.

Babylon23
07-13-2005, 11:38 PM
Please, pick anyone but Raney.

His recent art on the title was extremely dissapointing. The man can do some great visuals, but at the same time, he can pump out some incredibly awkward and lackluster work.

Okay, so maybe not Raney, but i'd like to see somebody named as a second artist. Back in the Australian Outback days, Silvestri was the regular artist, with Leonardi as regular fill-in artist. So if Silvestri was late, at least ou'd know what to expect artistically. With the 2 artists alternating story arcs, there was a consistancy to the book that recent Uncanny issues lack.

ibrakeforchinwe
07-14-2005, 09:47 AM
To keep a more streamlined look now that Bachalo is the artist, I guess Coipel or Park would be nice fill in artists.

Titan Slade
07-14-2005, 10:18 AM
Park would be nice fill in artist.

No thanks. We don't need any of Top Cow's "clone" artists on the Uncany X-Men.

ibrakeforchinwe
07-14-2005, 10:46 AM
No thanks. We don't need any of Top Cow's "clone" artists on the Uncany X-Men.


Oh I dont like Park at all and yeah Top Cow's artist all look the same, but if there were a fill in artist that would keep with Bachalos cartoony style I would go with Park.

See the difference? Park did NOT fit in on Davis' run.

Titan Slade
07-14-2005, 10:50 AM
See the difference? Park did NOT fit in on Davis' run.

There is none to see. Park did not fit on Uncanny period, no matter who the regular penciller is or was ;) .

Brian M.
07-14-2005, 11:20 AM
There is none to see. Park did not fit on Uncanny period, no matter who the regular penciller is or was ;) .


Yea that cover with Storm, Marvel Girl and Sage is just horrible. All of them look like old women.

Marty4Magik
07-14-2005, 11:29 AM
Yea that cover with Storm, Marvel Girl and Sage is just horrible. All of them look like old women.
That cover wasn't by Andy Park...

ibrakeforchinwe
07-14-2005, 11:36 AM
Yeah that was Paul Smith.

Huzzah!
07-14-2005, 12:11 PM
Park was awesome. Sure he didnt mesh up with Davis too good, but he should mesh up with Bachalo nicely. He's a good sub

BlackKnight
07-14-2005, 12:40 PM
Not Bachelo, to me his art is terrible. It looks like manga with a touch of realism, that just leaves the charaters looking like they out of proportion.

*shurgs*

DDM
07-14-2005, 01:03 PM
Chris Bachalo's early work on Generation X #1-??, Generation Next #1-4 is very good. However, after he returned a second time from Vertigo's Death limited series, Generation X started to slide. His Emma Frost looked like an X-Baby instead of a grown woman. He can be a good artist when he wants to be, but he has inconsistent pencils. I'm hoping the inker will compliment Bachalo instead over further confuse the artwork.

fishtaco
07-14-2005, 01:05 PM
I want Andy Park as the permanant penciler. Andy's Chasing Hellfire arc was awesome.

xmanson
07-14-2005, 03:04 PM
We need some previews.... very soon.

jboncha
07-14-2005, 03:08 PM
We need some previews.... very soon.
There are cover previews:

UXM 464:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8600/uncannyxmen464bachalo1gq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

UXM 465:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5994/uncannyxmen465bachalo9of.jpg

But I'm also really anxious to see sum interior artwork previews as well.







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Babylon23
07-14-2005, 04:53 PM
Sorry about the triple post earlier. I had computer problems yesterday.

I really didn't like Andy Park's work on Chasing Hellfire. However, I think the issues showed that he has some potential. I hope he can get away from the generic Top Cow style and develop his own look. Still, if he did become the regular fill-in artist, at least i'd know what to expect.

riotgear
07-14-2005, 06:17 PM
Please, pick anyone but Raney.

His recent art on the title was extremely dissapointing. The man can do some great visuals, but at the same time, he can pump out some incredibly awkward and lackluster work.

Actually, Raney was announced as the back-up artist to Alan Davis, so unless anything changes, he'll probably (hopefully) stay on.

ibrakeforchinwe
07-14-2005, 06:49 PM
No Raney was just for that arc.

jboncha
07-14-2005, 07:01 PM
No Raney was just for that arc.
Do you mean just the last two arcs?





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ibrakeforchinwe
07-14-2005, 07:25 PM
Do you mean just the last two arcs?





J B


Last two issues, an arc is the whole story. It was a 2 part arc.

fishtaco
07-14-2005, 07:35 PM
See what I mean? Those covers are so awful. Bishop looks like a mobster. And half of Wolverine's body seems to be amputated.

Huzzah!
07-14-2005, 07:36 PM
Nightcrawler is in the 2nd cover. Cna you find him>

fishtaco
07-14-2005, 07:39 PM
Nightcrawler is in the 2nd cover. Cna you find him>
Yes, and barely. Is he Psylocke's dog, now?

Titan Slade
07-14-2005, 07:40 PM
See what I mean? Those covers are so awful. Bishop looks like a mobster. And half of Wolverine's body seems to be amputated.


Wolverine is cut off because it is a 2 page cover and only one of the pages has been released online, the one you are viewing. And the reason bachalo is so awesome, is because he is not a "clone" artist. He has his own unique style, and did not resort to ripping-off another artists style.

Shadow Crawler
07-14-2005, 07:41 PM
See what I mean? Those covers are so awful. Bishop looks like a mobster. And half of Wolverine's body seems to be amputated.
Or half of his body just is not on the cover. The covers really aren't that bad. Only thing I have a problem with is Bishop, though I've never been a fan... But I agree, I would really like to see Andy Park as a permanent penciller. His Chasing Hellfire was great.

ibrakeforchinwe
07-14-2005, 07:44 PM
That "cover" with Betsy in her old uniform isnt a cover. Its a poster by Bachalo. The missing part features the rest of Wolverines head and Rachel way in the back to the right.

fishtaco
07-14-2005, 07:52 PM
Wolverine is cut off because it is a 2 page cover and only one of the pages has been released online, the one you are viewing. And the reason bachalo is so awesome, is because he is not a "clone" artist. He has his own unique style, and did not resort to ripping-off another artists style.Originality in style doesnt make an artist neccessarily good. While his style is original, it still stinks.

Vegetarian Goat
07-14-2005, 10:19 PM
Originality in style doesnt make an artist neccessarily good. While his style is original, it still stinks.

Originality, especially in a field like comics that can inspire a great amount of artistic inbreeding, should be respected for what it is, even if it doesn't suit your particular aesthetic.

The Dosadi Experiment
07-15-2005, 02:18 AM
I enjoy the cover-art.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-15-2005, 06:01 AM
Bachalo oddly reminds me of when Maduira used to X-Men. I think his art Is alright. I wish they would have got Copiel to draw. His work In House of M looks fine to me and his old work on filling In on Avengers and X-Men looked good.

jarrod
07-15-2005, 08:03 AM
Okay, so maybe not Raney, but i'd like to see somebody named as a second artist. Back in the Australian Outback days, Silvestri was the regular artist, with Leonardi as regular fill-in artist. So if Silvestri was late, at least ou'd know what to expect artistically. With the 2 artists alternating story arcs, there was a consistancy to the book that recent Uncanny issues lack.
Good idea... so what's Rick Leonardi up to these days?

MrBeebs37
07-15-2005, 11:29 AM
Does anyone else think that it's an odd editorial choice to have Chris Bachalo working with Claremont and Peter Milligan working with Leinil Francis Yu when both Yu and Bachalo have done arguably some of their career-best work with the writer they aren't matched up with?

I'm all for artists trying new things but every name involved here needs a shot in the arm right now quality-wise and if nothing else, switching the artists would be an easy quick fix.

Tobias March
07-15-2005, 12:21 PM
I disagree.
I LOVED Bachello's art on Generation X and both Death mini's, but I agree with you on his recent work...

But Roger Cruz, Ladronn....That would be great. :cool:

I really hope Bachello's style is more 'clearer' now....

Anyone else remember all those secret messages Madureira sneaked into his art, accusing Cruz of being a thief and all? That was fun. I think it was in the X-Men annual where Storm faces off against Marrow and her Morlock crew.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-15-2005, 12:23 PM
Does anyone else think that it's an odd editorial choice to have Chris Bachalo working with Claremont and Peter Milligan working with Leinil Francis Yu when both Yu and Bachalo have done arguably some of their career-best work with the writer they aren't matched up with?

I'm all for artists trying new things but every name involved here needs a shot in the arm right now quality-wise and if nothing else, switching the artists would be an easy quick fix.


Yu's X-Run was good with Claremont In 2000. Hell It was the best part of that run. I think they wanna see If Milligan and Yu can deliver some new magic on that run because Its been dissapointing a lot.

For the Good of X
07-15-2005, 01:37 PM
Since when is Yu working with Milligan on X-Men?
I thought Yu was working at DC of late?

streator
07-15-2005, 01:42 PM
Since when is Yu working with Milligan on X-Men?
I thought Yu was working at DC of late?
yeah, what? i havent heard this at all, but id love to see leinel back on the x-men. he is one of my favorite pencilers.

MrBeebs37
07-15-2005, 03:43 PM
Oops. Instead of Yu I meant to say Laroca. Sorry if anyone got excited.

Titan Slade
07-15-2005, 03:48 PM
Oops. Instead of Yu I meant to say Laroca. Sorry if anyone got excited.

Sumn a bich, I was fixing to shout for joy at Yu replacing the lackluster Larroca on Milligan's X-Men :( :( .

Huzzah!
07-15-2005, 04:15 PM
"Yu and Hank are dead"

"What?"

"Yu and Hank are dead"

"Are you threatening me?"

jarrod
07-18-2005, 11:34 AM
Anyone else remember all those secret messages Madureira sneaked into his art, accusing Cruz of being a thief and all? That was fun. I think it was in the X-Men annual where Storm faces off against Marrow and her Morlock crew.
Ironic given that Madureira himself started off as a cheap Art Adams clone, then simply cribbed from a well established eastern style to gain his notoriety. People in glass houses and all that....

The Dosadi Experiment
07-18-2005, 12:36 PM
Ironic given that Madureira himself started off as a cheap Art Adams clone, then simply cribbed from a well established eastern style to gain his notoriety. People in glass houses and all that....

Cruz was at his best during Age of Apocalypse.

It was dark, gritty, and perfectly coloured, it had it all, ever since Omega, I kept a warm spot for his art, even if it never really looked much like his work on Omega.

jadegiant77
07-18-2005, 01:05 PM
Thanks, JB...now I can't stop my eyes from bleeding...(might be because I shoved two razor sharp needles in them to keep from looking at those lame ass covers).