Flash vs. Molecule Man (WAT)

[Guywhoiscool]

This the silver era Flash that can do ridiculous stuff just by talking about molecules. How does he do against a guy that controls molecules?

[snootch]

Molecule Man is/was one of the most powerful beings in the MU. The Watcher said he was the most powerful (or something like that). He turns Flash into a rabbit and keeps him as a pet.

[SiliconDream]

Silver Age Flash's molecular control is good enough to reverse some of the transformations he suffers when, say, Kadabra is playing around with him. (Which almost always leave him mobile and conscious, conveniently.) That's nowhere near good enough to do much of anything when the Molecule Man converts him into a bag of grass clippings.

[Fallman]

I'm pretty sure that Barry Allen has been turned into stuff with about as much mobility as grass clippings before. And he was supposed to have complete control over his molecules. Besides, he could sidestep into another dimension, then push his hand back in and explode Molecule Man's head.

[SiliconDream]

I'm pretty sure that Barry Allen has been turned into stuff with about as much mobility as grass clippings before.
I haven't seen it, personally--AFAIK he's been turned into wooden puppets and holograms and whatnot, but he always demonstrated mobility or at least consciousness before he started reversing the effect.

Put it this way--you could shoot Barry through the head and he'd fall down and die, even though that'd be a fairly minor molecular reconstruction of his body.

And he was supposed to have complete control over his molecules.
Yeah, but he didn't. Otherwise he'd have a healing factor, be able to shapeshift, transmute into other elements, etc. Possibly he could potentially have his molecules do anything he wanted, but he certainly didn't seem to know how.

Besides, he could sidestep into another dimension, then push his hand back in and explode Molecule Man's head.
But Molecule Man--unlike Barry--has control over his molecules to the point where he can rebuild his body, or construct an entirely new one. Which is the only reason I don't see Barry being able to end the fight with a speedblitz.

[Radical]

This the silver era Flash that can do ridiculous stuff just by talking about molecules. How does he do against a guy that controls molecules?

What about Superfriends Superman? Seanbaby talks about how Supes yaks about molecules all the time.

[snootch]

Besides, he could sidestep into another dimension, then push his hand back in and explode Molecule Man's head.

Molecule Man is on a similar level to orginal Beyonder in terms of power. There is/was literally nothing that is beyond his ability. He would just tear a whole into the dimension Flash had gone to or he could just destory it.

[nanteen]

Ok for all of you Flash fans with your molecule talking hero.


Molecule see's Flash.

Molecule man ERASES Flash from exsistance.

Come back from that Flash.

[Lasko8734]

Molecule Man turns Flash into a red pudding pop

[The Drunkard Kid]

Does MM have any temporal powers?

Cause, IIRC, Barry Allen could do some ridiculous time traveling, and no amount of temporally locked molecular control will save your great great great grandfather from being dropped off at ground zero of the Hiroshima detonation when he's six years old.

EDIT: The other thread answered that. He seems to be able to jump around time just as easily, so Barry's screwed. I guess he could try and KO him somehow without doing lethal damage to put him temporarily out of commission without auto-resuscitating, but I don't think he's too familiar with pressure points, assuming they'd even work on someone like MM.

[Chou Blaster]

Barry Allen pwned a guy when he got turned into a Wooden puppet, by sheer will pwoe rand use of his pwoers.

*Forgot the scan* So MM will not be beating him with transmutation.

Mus tbe SW verison, otherwise if he messe swith organics, MM gets hurt.

[Sharpandpointies]

Capricons, the Watcher has previously removed your right to post with regards to Flash.

Please remember that in the future.

[Aubergine~!]

Isn't current Flash (or Wally a few months ago) faster than Silver Age Flash anyways?

[FalconX2000]

Couldn't Flash speedblitz molecule man? Or does the latter have speed/reaction feats superior to Superman?

[The Drunkard Kid]

Couldn't Flash speedblitz molecule man? Or does the latter have speed/reaction feats superior to Superman?I think the problem is that speedblitzing is of limited use when the other guy can reconstitute himself instantly from anything you do to him and then theoretically blow up the timeline that you're in.

[Mike Smith]

Can Flash speedsteal molecule man before getting scrambled?