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TCJohnson
07-06-2005, 08:22 PM
FANTASTIC FOUR, X-MEN AND HULK CREATOR'S FAMILY ANNOUNCES MUSEUM

HOBOKEN, New Jersey, USA (6 July 2005) - Signifying a momentous step for comicbook lovers and popular culture scholars worldwide, Lisa Kirby, the daughter of the late Jack Kirby, artist and co-creator of the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, the Hulk, Captain America and many other comicbook characters and stories, today announced the creation of the Jack Kirby Museum and Research Center (JKMRC).

"My dad's work, starting with Captain America in the 1940s and reaching a peak with most of the other Marvel Comics superheroes in the 1960s, had a great influence on our culture, " Lisa Kirby says. "His imagination, storytelling ability, and prolific output contributed significantly to making the comicbooks he created among the most highly regarded in the U.S."'

Although the general public is familiar with some of his work, Kirby himself is still relatively unknown. "In the years since his death in 1994, there have been a number of high profile movies featuring properties and characters Dad created, but he has, for the most part, not been featured in the movies' promotions," Lisa Kirby added, "In that respect, my family and I were excited by the creation of a non-profit educational organization devoted to Dad's work."

Spearheaded by Randolph Hoppe of Hoboken, New Jersey, a cartoonist and web designer who hosts Kirby discussion groups, and supported by the Kirby Family and John Morrow, the award-winning publisher/editor of the Jack Kirby Collector magazine from Raleigh, North Carolina, JKMRC is devoted to promoting and encouraging the study, understanding, preservation and appreciation of the work of comicbook creator Jack Kirby.

"Our first program is to build an exhaustive, collaborative online Jack Kirby 'Catalogue Raisonné'," reports Hoppe, referring to the term for a book of "all the works" by an individual artist. "With support from the Kirby Estate, TwoMorrows Publishing, JKMRC members and scholars worldwide, we will take what has been known as the Jack Kirby Checklist and build it into an invaluable media-rich resource — not just for comicbook and Kirby fans, but for popular culture scholars, as well. I hope that programmers who have knowledge of or experience working on similar volunteer-based online projects will be able to provide some expertise."

However, the online Catalogue Raisonné is not JKMRC's only project. "We hope to develop an exhaustive, multimedia Jack Kirby biographical presentation and to partner with museums, conferences and conventions around the world on Kirby-related exhibits, papers and more," Hoppe adds. "But it all depends on how much support we can garner. I know the first question on most people's mind when learning about a new Jack Kirby Museum will be, 'where will the building with the collection and the exhibit space be built?' My cautiously optimistic response is, 'One step at a time'. At this early stage, it's best to say that anything's possible with the right support."

For John Morrow of TwoMorrows Publishing, the JKMRC is a perfect fit. "I've been editing and publishing the Jack Kirby Collector magazine for more than ten years," Morrow says. "Back in 1995, Rand approached me about posting a web site for the Kirby Collector – I didn't know what a web site was. When he told me his idea for a Kirby Museum, I agreed it's time had come. I'm going to put the full resources of TwoMorrows Publishing behind this effort." TwoMorrows started with a 16-page bi-monthly xeroxed Kirby Collector, and is now a thriving operation publishing trade paperbacks and five magazines targeted at the comicbook specialty market.

JKMRC will also celebrate Jack Kirby's co-creators and colleagues. For almost fifteen years starting in 1940, Joe Simon partnered with Kirby, becoming the top creative team during comicbooks' so-called "Golden Age". Starting with their work on Captain America, they then worked on Sandman, Manhunter, Newsboy Legion and Boy Commandos. Simon & Kirby also invented the Romance comicbook genre with the publication of "Young Romance Comics" in 1947. “I've had considerable contact with Joe Simon while publishing the Kirby Collector,” Morrow added. “I hope we can work closely with Joe on JKMRC programs, too,”

"Most people remember Jack for developing and telling the stories of the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, the Hulk and more in the 1960s with Marvel Comics' Editor, Art Director and Writer Stan Lee," Hoppe noted. "Marvel Comics would not be what it is today without those Kirby/Lee collaborations. They defined the Fantastic Four in the more than 102 issues they produced together," he said. "We can't celebrate Jack's 1960s work for Marvel without acknowledging Stan Lee's substantial efforts. We look forward any contributions Stan Lee can make to our programs.” Lee's partner on Spider-man was Steve Ditko.

“All of us in the Kirby family look forward to the growth and impact of this organization,” Lisa Kirby stated.

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Mission Statement:

The Jack Kirby Museum and Research Center is organized exclusively for educational purposes; more specifically, to promote and encourage the study, understanding, preservation and appreciation of the work of Jack Kirby by:

* illustrating the scope of Kirby's multi-faceted career,

* communicating the stories, inspirations and influences of Jack Kirby,

* celebrating the life of Jack Kirby and his creations, and

* building understanding of comicbooks and comicbook creators.

To this end, the Museum will sponsor and otherwise support study, teaching, conferences, discussion groups, exhibitions, displays, publications and cinematic, theatrical or multimedia productions.


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matterconsumer
07-06-2005, 08:25 PM
http://kirbymuseum.org

PatrickG
07-06-2005, 08:34 PM
Cool. But...

Didn't Jack Kirby design Spider-man costume and draw AMAZING FANTASY #15's cover before Ditko got assigned to the character?

matterconsumer
07-06-2005, 08:49 PM
Kirby has made some claims along those lines.

Ditko of course is essentially a recluse who refuses to discuss such matters.

Lee and Kirby have poor memories and at various times have made various claims.

Kirby also had nasty experiences with Marvel and went after them for money and his original art.

And his contributions to Spidey are claimed as I understand it well into the 80s.

So in the mid 60s, Kirby wasn't talkin' his contributions to Spidey...

Tad Sivana
07-06-2005, 09:55 PM
I know that Jack Kirby made some claims about Spiderman's inception and Joe Simon has also referenced a character similar in design to Spidey that they created much earlier, but in all honesty, I think we have to say that the character is a Steve Ditko creation. The costume doesn't look anything like Jack's other costumes, the physique and especially the face are far different than the Ditko style we associate with Peter Parker.
It's clearly a Ditko character....reference Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, etc... to see the drawing style.
I have no doubt that Jack Kirby in his de facto role as Marvel's art director had input and opinions about the character, but the birth of Spiderman is really from the pencil of Steve Ditko, and the unique character, flaws and all is a Ditko original creation....far more than even Stan Lee.

matterconsumer
07-06-2005, 10:08 PM
It's likely that Kirby tossed out some ideas...It's not difficult to imagine general brainstorming amongst the creative folk as character creation is during this time an ongoing event...

I agree that there's far more Ditko here likely than Kirby.

But Lee has a hand in it all and without him these horses don't even leave the stables...In other words Lee gives approval and adds his touch amongst the various takes on what would become Spidey and the Marvel Universe...

Tad Sivana
07-06-2005, 10:15 PM
I'll give you Lee's input, but ask yourself;
Spiderman with Lee and Don Heck?
Spiderman with Lee and John Buscema?
Spiderman with Lee and Herb Trimpe?
It took Ditko to make the character 'real' and right. It would never have succeeded with another artist, not even 'The King'.

matterconsumer
07-06-2005, 10:16 PM
Without diminishing Ditko, Lee and Romita, Sr did just fine...

Tad Sivana
07-06-2005, 10:23 PM
D'ya really think so?
For me, there was a tragic side to Peter that faded away with Romita. It became more like a romance comic.
Mind you, I'm not saying that Ditko could have sustained it...in fact, he was heading down a difficult path with tales like 'Just A Guy Named Joe' or the 'Meteor Man', which were kind of hackneyed and seemed like repeats of better, earlier stories. At the same time, he was doing great stuff with Dr. Strange...or even teaming up Spidey with Strange in the annual, so who's to say.
I always felt that Steve was at the end of his rope, creatively, and knew it was time for him to go. It took Lee and Romita many, many issues to come even close to the kinds of stories Ditko and Lee had done...and IMHO, it wasn't until Gil Kane came on that the characterizations came back to where they were with the original series. The tone and atmosphere NEVER came back.
I'm still sorry that Steve didn't do the death of Gwen...it would have been spectacular, but I think you have to trust an artist who decides he's said what he wants to say and it's over. That's something Stan never learned.

PatrickG
07-06-2005, 10:31 PM
I think Jim Mooney could have made it work...

matterconsumer
07-06-2005, 10:42 PM
Not that we will ever know but at the onset Lee/Kirby Spidey and Lee/Romita, Sr Spidey would have obviously been different from Lee/Ditko Spidey...

Probably would have sold more comics but would have been a different character.

I doubt that Ditko would have killed Gwen but we'll never know.

Ditko and Lee had their arguments and parted ways. Kirby and Lee had their arguments and parted ways.

Ditko and Kirby certainly get plenty of opportunities but as writers very few nibble...