Does batman ever sleep with the women he hangs with as bruce wayne

[IamtheRock3]

Seem like it run of those things he has to do to keep the image

ahhh the price as super hero

If so seem rather cold he banging them to keep his ID up.

[The Mirrorball Man]

Yes, sure he sleeps. He probably snores too.

Hey, a man has to get some rest from time to time, right?

[Economist]

According to a Chuck Dixon Day in the life of Bruce Wayne type story, no he does not sleep with them.

[PrimalScream]

im thinkin the odd 1 or 2.

[Robin3]

Honestly, I thought he didn't sleep with them as Batman. Does Catwoman not know his real identity?

[PrimalScream]

she does now during hush

[The Shadow]

she does now during hush
ANOTHER stupid effect of Hush... bah.

I'm sure he would have gotten down with Silver, Vicky and Vesper. They were long timers.

[DOVETAILS]

I've got a better question.. Does batman ever sleep? :confused:

[Donald M.]

Obviously he's slept with women he's had actual relationships with, like Vicky Vale and Silver St. Cloud, but I think he has too much integrity to sleep with the arm candy he keeps around to maintain his image as Bruce Wayne.

It all makes you wonder what the headlines of the Gotham tabloids must've been like. I mean, you've got a high-profile millionaire playboy who hangs out with beautiful women but doesn't sleep with any of them and lives all alone in a big mansion with an old british guy and a young boy.

[Jeff Brady]

Aside from Vicky, Silver, and probably Selina, Bruce doesn't have sex. He channels all that energy into his war on crime.

Also, do you think his arm candy will deny sleeping with him? You think those bimbos would tell the truth? They're in competition with their 'friends.' Think of them in a public restroom, touching up their makeup in front of a mirror. They're gossiping. "Hey, were you with Bruce? Did you...?"

[pennywisdom]

We know that Bruce is sleeping with these ladies because they keep coming back.

Assume he never slept with them. He would gain a reputation as being either a timid virgin or gay. Rich, gorgeous women would have no interest chasing him around. Remember how he broke up with Vesper? I'll give you a clue: it involved three supermodels in a hot-tub. That situation simply doesn't exist for guys who either have limited sexual experience or are gay, I don't care how much money is involved. Women are attracted to players... women are attracted to Bruce... do the math. Money may factor in, but not to that degree. You have to be a dynamo for women to act that way around you. I would expect Bruce to give James Bond a run for the money. At least, that's how it should be.

Incidentally, how under-written is this character if we're even having this conversation? DC writers and editorial should have their heads smacked for even allowing Bruce Wayne to sink so low that we have to speculate as to whether or not he's physically capable of sex. Nobody has these discussions about Matt Murdock or Tony Stark.

EDIT: Reading the other replies to this topic always reveals a flaw in your thinking: you guys aren't looking at it from the girl's POV. If you had that much money and great looks, would you bother with a guy who doesn't rate?

[Mia]

Penny you are so full of wisdom! Very good annalysis.

Actually I completely agree . Apart from in-book hook ups with Selina and Silver. I strongly believe that Bruce is a sexually active man. I don't think that Bruce is a dog or allows his sex drive to control him (like Roy Harper). But I am quite sure that he enjoys 'carnal' knowlege with a woman from time to time.

I think it was Denny O'Neil that maintained that Bruce was too dedicated to his cause to indulge in relationships and was celibate. I strongly disagree.
How much time do you actually think that it takes for a man to pay a woman a 'booty call'? Bruce is rich, handsome and well built. He is not the sort of man a woman kicks out of bed. He is not the sort of man who has to get on his knees and beg for it. He would probably get easy access to the bedrooms of women.


There's a beautiful scene in one of the Batgirl books (forget the issue) where Batman is talking with Batgirl about a murdered model. He says:

"She and Bruce Wayne.....(pause) dated a few times."

Uh-huh. ;)

[Grant]

If he does how do they react to all the scars and bullet wounds?

[Karl J. Barnes]

If he does how do they react to all the scars and bullet wounds?


Get more turned on??

[Mia]

If he does how do they react to all the scars and bullet wounds?


In Batman Tenses Bruce tells a doctor that he's into extreeme sports.

So I'm sure that works.

[Smarty Jones]

Bruce Wayne does not sleep with most of the trophies on his arm -- similar to his Marvel counterpart, Tony Stark. Knowing how people's minds roam and assume things about a man and a woman being seen together ("You see them together in public, so he MUST be hitting that!"), both Wayne and Stark allows the public's minds run wild.

Wayne and Stark also have had real relationships, which is another staple of playboys -- they actually do settle down with someone for some time, save it's usually with someone of a certain celebrity. Those stable relationships also enhance their playboy image; if both were never seen or had been in a committed relationship, then they can called whores.

[The Grey Man]

Bruce dosn't just 'sleep' with them he is a fit & passionate man, with a man's needs. He has sex with them definately; it is an inherent 'need' in most humans. His obssession for vengeance/justice hasn't dulled his physical needs.

However he doesn't generally sleep around, most of his ladies are 'eyecandy' picked out to keep his 'Bruceimage' alive amongst the paparazi and general populace. He doesn't 'sleep' with them, they are just tools to maintain his alter-ego's image. I think he has too much respect for people in general, and especially his Mum to mistreat women so.

Occaisionally though, he does meet a woman that touches his heart through the facade and he genuinely feels for them, other than just as 'cover' for his Bruce image. Women like Silver, Vesper & Vicki have strong wills, personalities & characters that appeal to him so greatly that he does consider sharing his secret with them, or sometimes even giving up his quest/campaign to share his life with them.

However, fortunately, or unfortunately, (depends on your level of compassion for the man himself), his obssession to live up to his vow to his murdered parents always leads him to reject the women he loves or be rejected by them when they realise the depths of his obssession outweighs his devotion to them.

His ardour towards Catwoman is fueled by her capability, confidence, skill, spirit and everything he admires in women but the fact that she knows his secret and will never ask him to recant his calling means that she is the perfect partner for him, as long as she never crosses 'the line' as far as he is concerned. In fact he has been very lenient of her activities, you can't help but wonder if a relationship with her hasn't always been on his agenda once he'd convinced her to tread a straighter path as she does now.

btw, I was very drunk when i wrote this so please go easy on me when u cuss me down.

[lonewolf23k]

Personally, I think that Bruce indulges in screwing around with his female companions on occasions. Why?

To reduce sexual tension, of course.

See, sexual desire is a perfectly normal male need, but it can be a distraction when on a case. Even more so if he doesn't "take care" of it on a regular basis, and it becomes so intense that Robin's tight pants become.. Well, you get the point.

Thus, Bruce Wayne regularly indulges himself in "entertainment" with trophy women, allowing him to "vent off" some tensions and concentrate on his duties as Batman.

[Adem]

In Batman Tenses Bruce tells a doctor that he's into extreeme sports.

So I'm sure that works.

*pictures the rockers from Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle*

"Yay that guy just shot me in the chest!"-rocker #1

"Wooooooooooooo EXTREMEEEEEEE!!!!"-rocker #2

:p

[The Grey Man]

Quote:Bruce Wayne does not sleep with most of the trophies on his arm -- similar to his Marvel counterpart, Tony Stark.


I always was of the opinion that Stark was much more into his women than Wayne and genuinely 'went' with them rather than using them as cover for his 'real' personality.

Stark is much more of a hedonist, he fights crime because he is rich, clever and has the tools to do it, (the armour), being Iron Man is not his whole reason for being. Stark runs his companies hisself in the main, Wayne uses his foundation as a tool to facilitate Batman.

I think that if Stark hadn't been kidnapped and forced to create his armour to combat the shrapnel near his heart, he would never have bothered with the hero biz. Essentially the armour creation came b4 the desire to be a hero, with Bruce the desire to be a hero came b4 the Batman personna.

As proof that Tony is more hedonistic/less driven to justice than Bruce I present the fact that Tony became an alcoholic whereas Bruce doesn't touch the stuff. Bruce isn't necessarilly morally superior but he is definately more 'driven' in all aspects.

btw, i'm still drunk when i wrote this & i can't even remember what point i was trying to make!!!!! Sorry. :confused:

[Mia]

Interesting analysis. But I tend to think that it's the exact opposite. Like I said before I don't think that he's a promiscuous by any stretch of the imagination. And I hardly doubt that he would be sleeping with all the women he was purportedly dating (where would he get the engergy?). But actually think that it is his good heart that does not allow him to form long standing relationships....or to lead women indefinetly. Notice the brutal way he dumped Vesper Fairchild in 'Tec. It would make far more sense for him to indulge in the occassional one night stand with a woman who knew exactly what the relationship was about. And besides Bruce Wayne is a tall, well built handsome man. With a great prescence and incredible animal magnatism (if he didn't he would never have attracted the attention of women like Talia or Selina). There are many women who like to spend quality time with such a man. Also I don't think that it's disrespectful to women at all, if both parties, have the same goal in mind. A few hours of pleasure. As to your charge of him not mistreating women. Well I've seen Batman get rough with more than a few women going so far as to engage in physical violence---yes including with Selina.





By the way, I don't know if you have been keeping up with Catwoman. But he and Selina have indulged in the occassional one night stand. In the last issue ( I think Catwoman 38) Bruce dropped by Selina's apartment solely for a 'little late night loving'--no that's not respectful in my books. Not that Selina is naive by any stretch of the imagination. I am sure she knows exactly what she is doing. But really I don't think that Bruce Wayne is above loving them and leaving them.

[Guts/Batman]

Of course, we know that Batman is Bruce Waynes dominant personality and Batman is a controlling sonofabitch. So getting into a "relationship" just allows him to keep tabs on Selina more than he could through other means.

She undoubtedly knows this (well, probably). Bruce probably knows she knows what he is really after.

Allowing some of the women in his life indulge in a faantasy could be another way of controlling them. Or in a sense making them more predictable at the very least.

Batman also knows that protecting Bruce Wayne's mask like quality requires him to have a public image or persona. Having ladies on both arms as "trophies" gets this done quite well.

[Smarty Jones]

"I think that if (Tony) Stark hadn't been kidnapped and forced to create his armour to combat the shrapnel near his heart, he would never have bothered with the hero biz. Essentially the armour creation came b4 the desire to be a hero, with Bruce the desire to be a hero came b4 the Batman personna."

Tony Stark is what Bruce Wayne would have become had Thomas and Martha Wayne lived to see their son grow up (the Starks died while Tony was in his late teens to early 20s, although to my knoweledge he is not aware that Roxxon sent up the automobile accident that killed them). That similarity is also apparent in their personal lives -- both are publicly seen with women, but for the most part they have chosen intimate lives with only a few.

Both Stark and Wayne even seem to share the same taste in women -- attractive, adventurous women who have no problems taking charge of situations. Like Wayne, Stark has had feelings for a somewhat enemy (Madame Masque) and has been with action junkies (see Bethany Cabe).

[pennywisdom]

Penny you are so full of wisdom! Very good annalysis.
Natch. :D Thanks, btw


Apart from in-book hook ups with Selina and Silver. I strongly believe that Bruce is a sexually active man. I don't think that Bruce is a dog or allows his sex drive to control him (like Roy Harper). But I am quite sure that he enjoys 'carnal' knowlege with a woman from time to time.
Exactly. Although you guys have brought up a great discussion as to the exact nature of these relationships, I think it's pretty safe to say that Bruce is NOT celebate. I can't believe Denny would say such a thing, because it doesn't make a bit of sense whatsoever. I'm also shocked whenever a writer (such as Kevin Smith in "Quiver") takes a shot at Bruce's lack of a sex life. And, no, I don't buy the whole "He's celebate because he really needs to concentrate on crimefighting" thing, either. Almost every man on the planet is capable of juggling a sex life and a career or two.

BTW - I agree with your other posts on this thread. You're making the best case yet.

[meethraa]

If I was to guess I'd say that Bruce doesn't get any sexual release at all. And if he does, it's probably not very healthy (or maybe I should say conventional) and definitely not with another person.

[pennywisdom]

If I was to guess I'd say that Bruce doesn't get any sexual release at all. And if he does, it's probably not very healthy (or maybe I should say conventional) and definitely not with another person.
Right. Which would explain the continued throngs of female admirers (?)

[roguespirit]

We know that Bruce is sleeping with these ladies because they keep coming back.

Assume he never slept with them. He would gain a reputation as being either a timid virgin or gay. Rich, gorgeous women would have no interest chasing him around.

Quite possibly




I don't care how much money is involved. Women are attracted to players... women are attracted to Bruce... do the math. Money may factor in, but not to that degree. You have to be a dynamo for women to act that way around you.

Nonsense. Have you not noticed how full of golddiggers this world is. There are quite a few well known ones that I'm not gonna bother too mention and I even know one or two myself. It is perfectly conceivable that women keep coming back cos of the money.



Incidentally, how under-written is this character if we're even having this conversation? DC writers and editorial should have their heads smacked for even allowing Bruce Wayne to sink so low that we have to speculate as to whether or not he's physically capable of sex. Nobody has these discussions about Matt Murdock or Tony Stark.

I don't know why we don't have these discussions about the others but I have personally been wondering about this for as long as I can remember. Becasue despite my golddigger ststaement. I don't see how a completely non sex life wouldn't get leaked to the press in some way.


EDIT: Reading the other replies to this topic always reveals a flaw in your thinking: you guys aren't looking at it from the girl's POV. If you had that much money and great looks, would you bother with a guy who doesn't rate?

Once again I can think of an example from real life but I don't think the person involved would appreciate me giving their names

[roguespirit]

Exactly. Although you guys have brought up a great discussion as to the exact nature of these relationships, I think it's pretty safe to say that Bruce is NOT celebate. I can't believe Denny would say such a thing, because it doesn't make a bit of sense whatsoever. I'm also shocked whenever a writer (such as Kevin Smith in "Quiver") takes a shot at Bruce's lack of a sex life. And, no, I don't buy the whole "He's celebate because he really needs to concentrate on crimefighting" thing, either. Almost every man on the planet is capable of juggling a sex life and a career or two.



However you don't take into account the fact that plenty of people who are dedicated to a cause have made celibacy a life choice. That doesn't mean that they don't have desires and needs but they have put it into its place. While I'm not convinced Bruce is celibate, I have no problem whatsoever believing he is, except for those who have truly touched him a la Selina et al

[pennywisdom]

So, dozens upon dozens of women (not just one woman) would chase around a potentially gay monk just because he has money? There might be a lone golddigger crazy enough to do that, but you don't get that level of widespread attention unless you have a highly deserved reputation.

Behavior and repuation go hand in hand. Are we to believe that Bruce Wayne has the sex life of Michael Jackson and the reputation of Mick Jagger? It doesn't work that way.

[Grant]

In Batman Tenses Bruce tells a doctor that he's into extreeme sports.

So I'm sure that works.

What extreme sports involve you getting shot?

[pennywisdom]

What extreme sports involve you getting shot?
They're permanent paintball wounds. And the skin grafts come from a game of Twister gone horribly awry.

[roguespirit]

So, dozens upon dozens of women (not just one woman) would chase around a potentially gay monk just because he has money? There might be a lone golddigger crazy enough to do that, but you don't get that level of widespread attention unless you have a highly deserved reputation.

Behavior and repuation go hand in hand. Are we to believe that Bruce Wayne has the sex life of Michael Jackson and the reputation of Mick Jagger? It doesn't work that way.

Reputation is not always a matter of reality. Believe me most people I know have an incredible perception of my sex life and most people show blatant amazement when they realise its not true. The attention I get from women is commensurate with what they believe to be true.

[Mia]

Reputation is not always a matter of reality. Believe me most people I know have an incredible perception of my sex life and most people show blatant amazement when they realise its not true. The attention I get from women is commensurate with what they believe to be true.


Ah admit it, you are just a gentleman! And we all know a gentleman never talks. ;)

But to address this, I knew a boy in college who was never short of female companionship. He was good looking and charming as hell. Girls would flock to him. But I don't think that he was ever intimate with them. He told us that he was a virgin. He just liked girls and they liked him.

[roguespirit]

Ah admit it, you are just a gentleman! And we all know a gentleman never talks. ;)

But to address this, I knew a boy in college who was never short of female companionship. He was good looking and charming as hell. Girls would flock to him. But I don't think that he was ever intimate with them. He told us that he was a virgin. He just liked girls and they liked him.


Your right I never talk ;) and so I shall not tell you of the night of 1000 kisses or the night of 14 orgasms..or.....

[satchmo the dragon]

But to address this, I knew a boy in college who was never short of female companionship. He was good looking and charming as hell. Girls would flock to him. But I don't think that he was ever intimate with them. He told us that he was a virgin. He just liked girls and they liked him.
This is what is called a gay man.

[Mia]

This is what is called a gay man.

No trust me he wasn't gay. If you saw the way he interacted (flirted) with girls you wouldn't think that for a second. Basically he was just a friendly outgoing and personable guy. Who really liked women a lot. I can tell a man who really likes women for who they are and not for what he can get out of them. And he was one of them.

[bannermanonemillion]

I've thought about this myself actually.

I wonder, anyone remember that episode of "Mad About You" where Jamie's old college professor (Nathan Lane) came back into town and we learn that the guy had a stare that caused women to orgasm?

Just picture Bruce trying that at a cozy restaurant. Who needs a motel? The best date you could have with all your clothes on. :D

[roguespirit]

I've thought about this myself actually.

I wonder, anyone remember that episode of "Mad About You" where Jamie's old college professor (Nathan Lane) came back into town and we learn that the guy had a stare that caused women to orgasm?

Just picture Bruce trying that at a cozy restaurant. Who needs a motel? The best date you could have with all your clothes on. :D

you do know that you can get remote control vibrators don't you?

[meethraa]

Right. Which would explain the continued throngs of female admirers (?)
What does that have to do with anything? Do the thousands of Brat Pitt/Tom Cruise/Leonardo DiCaprio fans get to watch those guys having sex? No.
Would any of those fans decline to be seen in public with them if they knew there wouldn't be any sex involved? No. That would probably be a big plus for many, even.

[Sandy Hausler]

Seem like it run of those things he has to do to keep the image

ahhh the price as super hero

If so seem rather cold he banging them to keep his ID up.

I would say that if he does, he only does so to maintain his playboy image. He doesn't enjoy it.

Sandy Hausler

[The Joker]

Cant say I was ever a fan of a James Bond like Batman.

To a certain degree, I do agree with Denny O'Neil. I believe he channel's much of his energy to fighting crime. But on the other hand, I do believe he's atleast had sex with Silver, Vicki, and Selina. Other than that, probably not.

I think Nolan's Batman Begins emphasized this greatly. As it's what he does that defines him as a person. And like in the film, Wayne admits that his Playboy persona is simply a hollow shell. "All of this, isnt me. I am ... More."

So yeah. I believe Batman has had sex in the past. But its far and few inbetween. Definately nothing thats a frequent occurence.

[Augusto]

We know that Bruce is sleeping with these ladies because they keep coming back.

Assume he never slept with them. He would gain a reputation as being either a timid virgin or gay. Rich, gorgeous women would have no interest chasing him around. Remember how he broke up with Vesper? I'll give you a clue: it involved three supermodels in a hot-tub. That situation simply doesn't exist for guys who either have limited sexual experience or are gay, I don't care how much money is involved. Women are attracted to players... women are attracted to Bruce... do the math. Money may factor in, but not to that degree. You have to be a dynamo for women to act that way around you. I would expect Bruce to give James Bond a run for the money. At least, that's how it should be.


I don't think that he's a promiscuous by any stretch of the imagination. And I hardly doubt that he would be sleeping with all the women he was purportedly dating (where would he get the engergy?). But actually think that it is his good heart that does not allow him to form long standing relationships....or to lead women indefinetly. Notice the brutal way he dumped Vesper Fairchild in 'Tec. It would make far more sense for him to indulge in the occassional one night stand with a woman who knew exactly what the relationship was about. And besides Bruce Wayne is a tall, well built handsome man. With a great prescence and incredible animal magnatism (if he didn't he would never have attracted the attention of women like Talia or Selina). There are many women who like to spend quality time with such a man. Also I don't think that it's disrespectful to women at all, if both parties, have the same goal in mind. A few hours of pleasure. As to your charge of him not mistreating women. Well I've seen Batman get rough with more than a few women going so far as to engage in physical violence---yes including with Selina.


Of course, we know that Batman is Bruce Waynes dominant personality and Batman is a controlling sonofabitch. So getting into a "relationship" just allows him to keep tabs on Selina more than he could through other means.

Batman also knows that protecting Bruce Wayne's mask like quality requires him to have a public image or persona. Having ladies on both arms as "trophies" gets this done quite well.


Becasue despite my golddigger ststaement. I don't see how a completely non sex life wouldn't get leaked to the press in some way.


Once again I can think of an example from real life but I don't think the person involved would appreciate me giving their names

Bruce Wayne is a player who doesn't play "in panel". It's always hinted.

Somewhere I read about Batman knowing yogi techniques so he doesn't need to sleep that much.

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[carabas]

Nobody likes a necromancer.

[rZi]

Catwoman noted how his body is covered in scars, not suprisingly so i always felt bruce would be a little skeptic to sleep with alot of women.

[LEADER DESSLOK]

This is an intriguing thread.

He definitely sleeps...uh, or has freaky Bat-Sex with these women.

As Batman: Talia, Nocturna, Some blind homeless woman whose name I don't remember (I'm not joking!) and Black Canary (if you believe Frank Miller! And what's Ollie gonna say about it!?) ,

As Bruce Wayne: Selina Kyle (C'mon, she's kissed Bruce and Bats-- she's gotta know they're the same guy!), Vicky Vale, Julie Madison, Silver St. Cloud (the Vicky Vale clone), Kathy (The Batwoman) Kane.

On Television as played by Adam West: The episode where Lee Meriwether played The kidnapped Bride of King Tut who invited Bruce in for "milk and cookies". Before Bruce walked in, he turned to the audience and said: "After all, man does not live by crime-fighting alone!"

[The Joker]

On Television as played by Adam West: The episode where Lee Meriwether played The kidnapped Bride of King Tut who invited Bruce in for "milk and cookies". Before Bruce walked in, he turned to the audience and said: "After all, man does not live by crime-fighting alone!"

I wasnt aware Lee made any more appearances with the Adam West Batman, other than the movie version as Catwoman of course. I'll have to check that out.

[Choppa]

Well if Damien is in fact his biological son, then he had to have slept with Talia no?

And Batwoman is a homosexual, so I don't think Bruce did it with her.

[Cornelius Stirk]

I think the general rule of thumb is some, not all.

I think his various other 'nocturnal activities' preclude him from being too much of a playa.

[Earl of the RCs]

Batman/Bruce is in peak physical and mental condition (discounting all his injuries) yes? And for his war on crime to retain maximum efficiency he needs to stay that way, yes? Well many, many doctors recomend sex as one of the best all round excercises for both pysical and mental wellbeing, right? So of course he `sleeps' with those of the women he encounters who he judges are legitimately into the idea, and who dont have unrealistic expectations of the possible outcomes (he doesnt want to take advantage of anyone but women are more than capable of making their own decisions in regards to chosing a sexual partner or partners). It would be irresponsible towards the mission not too.

[Captain Jim]

And Batwoman is a homosexual, so I don't think Bruce did it with her.

I think he was talking about the original (pre-crisis) Batwoman.

[NotSuper]

I'm sure Batman has to relieve "stress" some times. And I can't imagine him downloading porn on the Bat-Computer.

...

I think I just ruined my childhood.

[Spiffy]

Yes, sure he sleeps. He probably snores too.

Hey, a man has to get some rest from time to time, right?
The funny thing is, that's probably the one thing he rarely does. SLEEP with a woman. He'll bang the crap out of them, but probably will rarely trust himself to sleep in the same bed as anyone. I mean, sleep is the time you are most vulnerable to a knife in the gut.

He pretends to fall asleep, waits for THEM to fall asleep, then escapes to the Batcave. Alfred bops on by with morning coffee for the lady, and gently tells her that Master Bruce had some emergency.

[The Batman]

It occurs to me that if Batman does indeed sleep with all these women just to keep up his secret identity that it makes him as much of a dick as anything he's done JLA in the mainstream or, hell, even his behaviour in All-Star Batman.

[LEADER DESSLOK]

"A Jedi can't know love?" Sheesh, no wonder Anakin slipped up so badly over Amidala! It also explains Lucas' about face with having Leia turn out to be Luke's sister! That plot twist really infuriated me back in the day!

Oh, I wonder? Did Bats ever sample any of Poison Ivy's "greens"?

[The Batman]

Not, "can not", but rather "should not". What words mean shouldn't be a mystery either.

[Comixscribe]

If he did, then how could he explain this?

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Not consistent with being a playboy billionaire. What the heck could he be doing that would explain that? People would talk, and it'd blow his cover.

[The Batman]

It's been suggested that he could pass it off as the result of a lot of time spent involved in extreme sports.

I'm not sure which extreme sport it is that involves getting shot though.

[The Joker]

I'm not sure which extreme sport it is that involves getting shot though.

Reminds me of that line from Batman Begins;

"Are you planning on running into alot of gun fire in these caves?"

Or something like that. :evilsmile:

[Mr.EZ]

Everytime someone posts in this thread it says "Does Batman ever sleep with (name of last poster)" on the main forum page.

Now it says my name, but I cannot confirm or deny what Bruce and I have done in the wee hours after a long night of drinking.

I have blackouts. :frown:

[Captain Jim]

Everytime someone posts in this thread it says "Does Batman ever sleep with (name of last poster)" on the main forum page.

Yeah, I know. The time before you, I saw it say "Does Batman ever sleep with the Joker?" I got a kick out of that. :biggrin:

[Cornelius Stirk]

If he did, then how could he explain this?

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Not consistent with being a playboy billionaire. What the heck could he be doing that would explain that? People would talk, and it'd blow his cover.

Whips, chains and rubber, I dunno...

[Cornelius Stirk]

I'm sure Batman has to relieve "stress" some times. And I can't imagine him downloading porn on the Bat-Computer.

...

I think I just ruined my childhood.

Dude that's just wrong, I bet Jason Todd spent all day downloading pictures of Selina though...

[mattx110]

Yeah, I know. The time before you, I saw it say "Does Batman ever sleep with the Joker?" I got a kick out of that. :biggrin:
Makes re-reading your collection looking for hints of sex worth it.

[J.R. LeMar]

NRAMA: Obviously, you're playing up the playboy image of Bruce, and then, there's a kid…recently, Matt Wagner said that he feels Batman/Bruce Wayne is one of the DCU's better-sexed heroes…dunno - just seems natural that you might have a thought or two on all of this…does Bruce Wayne score with any regularity?

GM: I like to think he does. In fact it's my job to imagine it happening, may the lord have mercy on my soul. I figure Bruce does whatever it takes to maintain his health and stay stress free and fit. He would see sex as just another form of exercise with proven health and efficiency benefits. Someone in Bruce Wayne's position would be surrounded by beautiful women all the time and I can't imagine he'd resolutely say no to all of them, and remain uptight and frustrated. I think he'd find partners in his own social circle - party girls, heiresses, models etc - who would be up for no-commitment, no-strings liaisons and who could be guaranteed not to run straight to the tabloids.

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Batman/Morrison/Morrison_Batman.html

[The Joker]

Yeah, I know. The time before you, I saw it say "Does Batman ever sleep with the Joker?" I got a kick out of that. :biggrin:

Oh no. Not the Brokeback Joker stuff all over again .... :mad: :frown: :wink:

[IamtheRock3]

Whips, chains and rubber, I dunno...


I got with his keeps the light on


And he does it in a posistion...where there ummm not facing each other

[Augusto]

He pretends to fall asleep, waits for THEM to fall asleep, then escapes to the Batcave. Alfred bops on by with morning coffee for the lady, and gently tells her that Master Bruce had some emergency.

Well, that happened in Batman: The movie(1989). He left Vicky Vale in the bed...


NRAMA: Obviously, you're playing up the playboy image of Bruce, and then, there's a kid…recently, Matt Wagner said that he feels Batman/Bruce Wayne is one of the DCU's better-sexed heroes…dunno - just seems natural that you might have a thought or two on all of this…does Bruce Wayne score with any regularity?

GM: I like to think he does. In fact it's my job to imagine it happening, may the lord have mercy on my soul. I figure Bruce does whatever it takes to maintain his health and stay stress free and fit. He would see sex as just another form of exercise with proven health and efficiency benefits. Someone in Bruce Wayne's position would be surrounded by beautiful women all the time and I can't imagine he'd resolutely say no to all of them, and remain uptight and frustrated. I think he'd find partners in his own social circle - party girls, heiresses, models etc - who would be up for no-commitment, no-strings liaisons and who could be guaranteed not to run straight to the tabloids.

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Batman/Morrison/Morrison_Batman.html

That's for surehttp://www.smileyhut.com/thumb/thumbsupup.gif (http://www.smileyhut.com):biggrin:


I got with his keeps the light on


And he does it in a posistion...where there ummm not facing each other

If Catwoman is really a dominatrix....

[nepenthes]

Dude that's just wrong, I bet Jason Todd spent all day downloading pictures of Selina though...

I swear there's a comic with Batman looking extremely questionable as he watches Selina on the bat-computer. I'll ty to remember what it is.

[LEADER DESSLOK]

The Batman: Not, "can not", but rather "should not". What words mean shouldn't be a mystery either.

Fred Flintstone: "Nobody likes a wise guy!"

Addressing the "A Jedi shall not..." statement, the first response of a fledgling would naturally be "I can't?"

The original statement doesn't imply "one shouldn't" but one "will not!" which is a more definitive statement-- like those Ten Commandments. If the Jedi are a priestly order as opposed to a relatively loose organization like King Arthur's Knights, the Jedi "code" has to have definite rules otherwise, one should remain a civillian.

This is why it never made sense that The Batman (not the guy who posted the statement quoted above) was ever a "...duly deputized officer of the law". If he had been, he would have had no choice but to follow the same rules of due process as regular police officers. (Example: Excuse me, Mr. Batman, do you have a permit to climb up the side of this building? And where is your search warrant should you decide to enter through any of the windows?")

Let's stay civil, citizens!

But as I was saying? What about Poison Ivy? Or is she uh...toxic?

[LEADER DESSLOK]

What's this about Batman daydreaming about Selina Kyle. I dunno. Batman is too driven to "daydream" about any woman except maybe his dead mother Martha. He saw her die so he would probably want to relive more pleasant memories of her.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

I hope he gets it on with Jezebel Jet. Despite popular opinion against her, I really like the character. I think it's a bit refreshing that a character of Batman's stature is in a relationship with a minority (and with the stereotypical black/white relationship turned backwards, with the male being white and the female being black). The fact that she is also the ruler of a nation makes for some potentially cool stories, though I don't know that the potential has really been tapped yet. Jezebel's not been given much to do at all so far.

[Choppa]

Yoga people, yoga. That's a great way to relieve stress as well.

[PatrickG]

Well if Damien is in fact his biological son, then he had to have slept with Talia no?

And Batwoman is a homosexual, so I don't think Bruce did it with her.

She is STILL closeted, they did date once... and it's pretty well known by now, I think, that Batman has virtually no gaydar.

Also? Most gay people I know have had sex with someone of the opposite gender at least once and sometimes for years. (And most bisexual people I know have never had sex with someone of the opposite sex. Go figure.)

It isn't like sexual orientation makes it physically impossible or even unlikely... And not everybody even knows they're gay from birth.

Still, I doubt we'll know any more about Kathy and Bruce's relationship until they clarify her relationship with her niece Flamebird and the backstories at play there.

[PatrickG]

Yoga people, yoga. That's a great way to relieve stress as well.

Well, I'm pretty sure Morrison has said that Bruce requires a regimen of self-love and tantric sex as part of his martial arts exercises.

I guess it kinda makes sense that anybody who's mastered over 30 martial arts and dozens of mental disciplines probably winds up with prescribed sexual activity as part of that.

I don't think Bruce stresses out if he doesn't but my impression is that he probably sees it as an essential form of hygiene.

[PatrickG]

This is why it never made sense that The Batman (not the guy who posted the statement quoted above) was ever a "...duly deputized officer of the law". If he had been, he would have had no choice but to follow the same rules of due process as regular police officers. (Example: Excuse me, Mr. Batman, do you have a permit to climb up the side of this building? And where is your search warrant should you decide to enter through any of the windows?")


Police and law enforcement can use bounty hunters who aren't bound by the constitution or due process. (Bounty hunters don't need warrants and are often cleared of liability for injuries under bail agreements.)

It makes sense to me that Batman might have some official recognition or certification (licenses and such supplied for the sake of dotting i's and crossing t's at trial).

However, I can't imagine he'd be regarded as a member of the police force, per se.

He might have some sort of authority or jurisdiction given to him by the feds that, under some national security provision, give him powers like arrest without holding him liable for evidence discovery, civil rights or the like, all under classified national security interests so that the lawyers of the people he arrests aren't even allowed to mention him at trial under certain circumstances.

(In other words, maybe it's inadmissible in court to even claim that Batman arrested you unless you can prove it, making it so that any mention of Batman turns your case into an affirmative defense. Intimidating most criminals into not even mentioning him in court because you're essentially presumed guilty if you try to invoke Batman in your case.)

So if your defense involves mentioning Batman at all, you will be found guilty and maybe even tried for treason and divulging state secrets by the feds UNLESS you can clearly prove that it was Batman who apprehended you (and not, for example, a beat cop in a Batman costume) and that your innocence or dismissal of your charges hinge on proving Batman's involvement.

It would be interesting if there was an environment where defense attorneys begged their clients to keep quiet about Batman, fearful that the feds would send their clients to third world prisons. (Heck, who says Batman isn't getting more cooperation from law enforcement than he knows about -- or even wants?)

[PamGrierOverdrive]

Well, I'm pretty sure Morrison has said that Bruce requires a regimen of self-love and tantric sex as part of his martial arts exercises.




That's pretty cool, actually. Did he say this in an interview, or was this in one of his Batman issues?

[PatrickG]

The quote was earlier in this thread:


NRAMA: Obviously, you're playing up the playboy image of Bruce, and then, there's a kid…recently, Matt Wagner said that he feels Batman/Bruce Wayne is one of the DCU's better-sexed heroes…dunno - just seems natural that you might have a thought or two on all of this…does Bruce Wayne score with any regularity?

GM: I like to think he does. In fact it's my job to imagine it happening, may the lord have mercy on my soul. I figure Bruce does whatever it takes to maintain his health and stay stress free and fit. He would see sex as just another form of exercise with proven health and efficiency benefits. Someone in Bruce Wayne's position would be surrounded by beautiful women all the time and I can't imagine he'd resolutely say no to all of them, and remain uptight and frustrated. I think he'd find partners in his own social circle - party girls, heiresses, models etc - who would be up for no-commitment, no-strings liaisons and who could be guaranteed not to run straight to the tabloids.

I don't know where I got the eastern stuff but I'm almost certain I saw a Morrison interview where he goes a step further and says that, in his OPINION, Batman does solo maintenence on the batpole.

Nothing in canon.

And keep in mind, at least one Legion of Super-Heroes writer used to insist that with the exception of Superboy, the whole team practiced group "free love", aside from any of the romantic connections within the team.

Not LIKELY to see print. Not TOO likely to even be hinted at. Not even really important.

But a nifty insight if you think about weird stuff like that and aren't put off by it.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

That LOSH bit sounds like a Keith Giffen-ism. Am I right?

[joku2]

id think so

[dreyga2000]

The quote was earlier in this thread:
And keep in mind, at least one Legion of Super-Heroes writer used to insist that with the exception of Superboy, the whole team practiced group "free love", aside from any of the romantic connections within the team.


WHA...WHAT? :eek:

I'm curious what was the reasoning behind this?

[joku2]

thats awesome

[carabas]

WHA...WHAT? :eek:

I'm curious what was the reasoning behind this?Presumably that by the 30th century, humanity has said bye bye to all of its hangups, sexual and otherwise.

[PatrickG]

WHA...WHAT? :eek:

I'm curious what was the reasoning behind this?

If memory serves, that was Jim Shooter and he wasn't even 18 when he suggested it. (Though he started writing LSH at 14 or something.)

It's funny to me looking back because (from what I gather; I came of age with WIZARD), when cons were small and fanzines were underground, creators said a lot of things in interviews that they wouldn't ordinarily say today.

[PatrickG]

Presumably that by the 30th century, humanity has said bye bye to all of its hangups, sexual and otherwise.

I think that was the rationale. But I'd probably also chalk it up to LSH being written by a guy going through puberty.

[TradePaperbackTraitor]

The recent Superman/Batman arc Torment (now available in HC TPB) answered a lot of these questions.

Bekka, wife of Orion, falls for Batman, and Batman, pretty much exposed as a lonely guy, does the same.

Here's some of the dialogue as he tries to save her life:



These steamy waters are my best hope to save her. I cannot fail. She is my ally, my passion...

My Bekka.

Didn't have much time. She's barely breathing from the hypothermia.

She has to live! Please, God...

The cape has a heating filament. I can feel her pull...

...the pull I have denied myself all my life.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm even human anymore. Sex, love... even the slightest yearning I've repressed and rechanneled to the Almighty Will.

How perverse it feels in her presence.

Every relationship was a charade, or some reluctant excursion I knew I would never complete.

Vicki, Silver, Talia... Selina. She would last the longest -- only because she was safe. She was the enemy. She would always be the enemy.

My criterion for a relationship.

So may women. All those pretty party girls, their sweet smiles and simple hopes. But once the photo op was over, so were they. Back in the limo, back to wherever they came from.

I'm sure they wondered what went wrong. "Was it something I said? Did I come on too strong? Too clinging?" Never knowing they stood a better chance with Freeze.

No love. No family. No real intimacy. No losing oneself in someon else. Not in this life.

The day I put this on was the end of me. Gotham would be safe, be there would be no rescue for Bruce Wayne.

Kind of makes you see how dude is about to go nutz in Batman R.I.P. LOL

[PamGrierOverdrive]

Good lord, who was the writer of that drivel?

[TradePaperbackTraitor]

Good lord, who was the writer of that drivel?

Alan Burnett. Writes some of the Batman animated series I believe.

[dreyga2000]

Good lord, who was the writer of that drivel?

Hmmm.... I doesn't come off as bad as it sounds in the actual comic...

[Augusto]

Presumably that by the 30th century, humanity has said bye bye to all of its hangups, sexual and otherwise.

That's cool. Healthy free sexhttp://www.smileyhut.com/excited/hyper.gif (http://www.smileyhut.com)

[The Batman]

Well, I'm pretty sure Morrison has said that Bruce requires a regimen of self-love and tantric sex as part of his martial arts exercises.

I guess it kinda makes sense that anybody who's mastered over 30 martial arts and dozens of mental disciplines probably winds up with prescribed sexual activity as part of that.

I don't think Bruce stresses out if he doesn't but my impression is that he probably sees it as an essential form of hygiene.

So then, to Batman, these girls are exercise equipment?

[dreyga2000]

So then, to Batman, these girls are exercise equipment?

Heh...:cool: Bruce just got it like that...

[Augusto]

So then, to Batman, these girls are exercise equipment?


Heh...:cool: Bruce just got it like that...

And you don't need a personal trainer. It's all by yourself and "your equipment":biggrin:

http://myholes.co.uk/images/uploads/thumbs/thumb_batmanbegins.jpg