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DetourAndy
06-17-2005, 08:55 PM
I hear New Avengers #7 is going to start a story arc that brings back The Sentry. Did this not recently happen in Marvel Knights? Is this gonna be a similar story or something different? I ask this because i loved the Marvel Knights Sentry TBP, and if this series is going to bring him in the fold for good, that would be awesome.
Also, I have yet to read New Avengers 1-5? What is the basic plot of it? Is it any good? Is it as good as Astonishing X-Men (which I love)?
Cheers,
Andy
Doom Hammer
06-17-2005, 09:01 PM
The Sentry first appeared in the New Avengers series in #1. Since #3, he has not been seen. His absence, along with unexplained answers regarding the Void and how the Sentry will manage to exist, will be answered in the next arc entitled "The Sentry." Think of it as the sequel to the Sentry mini.
And yes, New Avengers is awesome. Great cast of characters written well and in an entertaining manner embarking on huge adventures, and all that.
The delays are not fun, though.
The basic plot: A group of characters, (Captain America, Spider-Man, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Spider-Woman, the Sentry, and Iron Man), are present at the Raft dentention facility when Electro causes a massive jailbreak. The heroes must fend for themselves and stay alive while trying to contain the situation. With the help of the Sentry, it's no problem.
That's basically the first two-and-a-half issues. The rest is the New Avengers banding together as a result of their coincidental meeting on the Raft, and hunting down those responsible for the break in order to avenger the SHIELD agents who lost their lives in the scuffle.
Nightcrawler
06-17-2005, 09:03 PM
1. This technically elongs in the Avengers forum, so look for it over there when it gets moved.
2. The guy in Marvel Knights Spider-Man is NOT Sentry. Different names, different powers, but some were fooled.
3. Sentry first appeared in New Avengers #1.
4. NA 1-5 was great. Better than Astonishing X-Men, IMHO.
mattbib
06-17-2005, 09:06 PM
Just to clarify (as you've both said that the Sentry first appeared in New Avengers #1) he clearly first appeared in Sentry #1.
Doom Hammer
06-17-2005, 09:08 PM
2. The guy in Marvel Knights Spider-Man is NOT Sentry. Different names, different powers, but some were fooled.
He's referring to the Marvel Knights Sentry story, I believe. Maybe not, though.
Doom Hammer
06-17-2005, 09:09 PM
Just to clarify (as you've both said that the Sentry first appeared in New Avengers #1) he clearly first appeared in Sentry #1.
I said he first appeared within the New Avngers book in #1. He made prior appearances in his mini and its tie-ins. Maybe my wording wasn't clear, but that's what I meant. :)
mattbib
06-17-2005, 09:19 PM
I said he first appeared within the New Avngers book in #1.Well, sure, after you edited your post. ;) Because that's not what it said ten minutes ago. :D
Doom Hammer
06-17-2005, 09:25 PM
Well, sure, after you edited your post. ;) Because that's not what it said ten minutes ago. :D
That's exactly what it said, Matt. I edited to include a synopsis of the series thus far, as Andy asked. After I reread Andy's request, I realized I didn't answer it fully, so instead of posting again, I just edited my original post.
It's not a deal or anything, but that's the reason for the edit.
DetourAndy
06-18-2005, 03:05 AM
So you're saying the Sentry TPB about Sentry coming back and nobody remembering who he was because of a cover up (him being the *spoilers*................void and all)...you're saying that is not the same Sentry in the New Avengers series? Im confused, because as far as I knew, Sentry was a golden age hero like Mr. Fantastic and Capt. America who came back......please enlighten me. :P
Andy
Jake V
06-18-2005, 03:50 AM
Did you read The Sentry miniseries? He was a hero throughout Marvel history, and reappeared in the modern age.
Now in New Avengers, he's back. He remembered who he was and somehow his wife died. The proof that he exists is also reappearing throughout the Marvel Universe. Most notably in the Secret Files of Nick Fury one-shot that spun out of the Secret War miniseries. In it, Fury comments that he has no memory of the Sentry, but suddenly detailed files on him have appeared on SHIELD computers without anyone knowing where they came from. The same Sentry from the miniseries is somehow back in the Marvel Universe, and apparently, only Reed Richards knows anything about him (as you've seen in New Avengers #1)
New Avengers #7-10 should explain how he's come back and how he'll fit into the current Marvel Universe.
1HELLBOY
06-18-2005, 03:50 AM
So you're saying the Sentry TPB about Sentry coming back and nobody remembering who he was because of a cover up (him being the *spoilers*................void and all)...you're saying that is not the same Sentry in the New Avengers series? Im confused, because as far as I knew, Sentry was a golden age hero like Mr. Fantastic and Capt. America who came back......please enlighten me. :P
Andy
If you mean Golden Age in reference to him being created around the same time or before the Fantastic Four, then no. He was created by Paul Jenkins(I think, I'm not sure) and Jae Lee. The Sentry made his first appearence in The Sentry TPB with a bunch of little guest starrings. He is now, as most have speculated, on or about to be on the New Avengers team. It's the same Sentry as in his TPB and in New Avengers. Hope that clears it all up.
But if I'm totally wrong, then somebody correct me and just ignore this post. :p ;)
We R. Venom
06-18-2005, 10:35 AM
I hear New Avengers #7 is going to start a story arc that brings back The Sentry. Did this not recently happen in Marvel Knights? Is this gonna be a similar story or something different? I ask this because i loved the Marvel Knights Sentry TBP, and if this series is going to bring him in the fold for good, that would be awesome.
Also, I have yet to read New Avengers 1-5? What is the basic plot of it? Is it any good? Is it as good as Astonishing X-Men (which I love)?
Cheers,
Andy
Is it any good he asked! My friend I say you must read em.
kcekada
06-18-2005, 01:29 PM
Also, I have yet to read New Avengers 1-5? What is the basic plot of it? Is it any good? Is it as good as Astonishing X-Men (which I love)?
No, it's not as good as Astonishing X-Men.
It's okay, but it smacks of a media event (bringing in Wolverine and Spider-Man...and losing the former team in a tragedy).
The first arc was intersting. But issue 4 was basically the Avengers versus Elecrtro on a sidewalk (really). Issue 5 was basically naked Avengers in bondage. While these may be water cooler kind of events, it's not what I want from the Avengers.
The Wayner
06-18-2005, 01:39 PM
I'd say it's better than Astonishing, though they're both very good titles.
RonnieThunderbolts
06-18-2005, 02:06 PM
There seems to be a LOT of confusion about the Sentry around here. I know some of the posters haved the whole picture, but some seem thouroughly confused. Robert Reynolds, the Sentry, was indeed created, most definitely, by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee for a Marvel Knights mini series and set of tie-in books a few years back. Sentry was promoted as a pre-existing, 'lost' character, but that was merely a promotional set-up and is not factual. At the end of the story, he is once again forgotten by his allies in order to keep his dark side, the villainous Void, at bay.
These tidbits were in Nick Fury's Secret War Files, a one shot to tie in to the current Secret War mini:
Now, Reed Richards asked for SHIELD to take Robert in their custody, he claims to have killed his wife (most likely it was his other personality, the Void.) The Sentry's abilities make it easy for him to escape, but he wants to be in prison to make the world safe from the threat of the Void. He asked Richards to have him locked up, and admitted to killing his wife Lindy. According to the one shot though, SHIELD agents were unable to verify that his wife IS dead, much less that he killed her, as her body is completely missing.
And now the New Avengers: Daredevil, as attorney Matt Murdock, is accompanied by his body guard (Luke Cage) and the SHIELD agent in charge of the Raft, Jessica Drew (Spider Woman of course). They are going specifically to see the Sentry, which is as Matt Murdock explains "a favor for Reed Richards." When the Raft's escaping prisoners seem to be gaining ground in their fight, Sentry steps in, destroying Carnage in space, and then flying down to get SHIELD to come in with a fleet of planes and whatnot to help secure the situation. Afterwards, he is gone. When the team begins to form someone asks about the "blond guy," Spider Man explains that he nearly forgot about Sentry, and thought he might have been Thor (in what seemed to be a half joke,) so while Sentry's existence isn't a complete mystery, people he'd encountered during his career, like Spider-Man, still don't know who he is. Captain America assures him that they will look into the guy who saved them and his situation when they return from hunting down the culprits behind the jail break. The Dr. Strange/ Reed Richards "lets make everyone in the whole word forget him" precaution seems to be partially in effect, with only Reed beign aware of his existence until Lindy's supposed death, and then telling select people to help get Robert what he needs.
After the conclusion to the first story arc, next issue, the Sentry arc will begin, and as said before, it will answer any questions we have about his relationship with the Void and the state of the character in the Marvel universe.
Uncensored
06-18-2005, 02:27 PM
Great explanation, thanks! I've read every issue of New Avengers up to issue 5, but I still had no real clue who Sentry was exactly.
DetourAndy
06-18-2005, 03:33 PM
it will answer any questions we have about his relationship with the Void and the state of the character in the Marvel universe.
I thought he was the void?
I thought he was the void?
He is. But if he still might become it,he'd be too dangerous to be an Avenger, ao some explanation as to why he won't is needed.
RonnieThunderbolts
06-18-2005, 04:43 PM
I thought he was the void?
As Gaz said, he IS the Void, but it isn't a simple deal, this isn't a Fight Club thing where no one else sees the Void, he was his greatest nemesis, and how they are able to coexist, or not, is supposedly going to be answered, as Gaz explained, in order for him to fit in with the New Avengers and not have it be a huge risk for the entire planet.
1HELLBOY
06-18-2005, 08:54 PM
Maybe the favor Reed Richards asked of Daredevil was to bring Sentry to Reed so Reed could maybe figure out a way to contain the Void without making The Sentry go back to Rob Reynolds. Just a thought.
DetourAndy
06-19-2005, 12:05 AM
This sounds like a good series. I'll have to get into it. When does the first TPB come out? September?
Keith_Martineau
06-19-2005, 02:16 AM
I made a stupid post based on confusion, and is now being stricken from the record. Carry on.
Kirk G
06-20-2005, 02:18 PM
No, it's not as good as Astonishing X-Men.
It's okay, but it smacks of a media event (bringing in Wolverine and Spider-Man...and losing the former team in a tragedy).
The first arc was intersting. But issue 4 was basically the Avengers versus Elecrtro on a sidewalk (really). Issue 5 was basically naked Avengers in bondage. While these may be water cooler kind of events, it's not what I want from the Avengers.
Naw, I want my semi-naked in bondage heroes over in Uncanny X-men... :D
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