My theory why no bat villains (Joker, Two-Face have major roles in Villains United...

[Guts/Batman]

I think it is because they are too unpredictable. The last thing Luthor wants is a "wild card" screwing things up since he has obviously made plans well in advance.

Two-Face - One minute you could be talking to Two Face the next to Harvey Dent.

Joker- The Ultimate Wild-card. No one knows what he is doing..ever. Maybe even himself.

Riddler - I hear he's currently doing his thing in Ollie's home town.

Though Talia undoubtedly counts as a Bat villain.

Any thoughts?

[IamtheRock3]

Well Mr Freeze in it..read Issue 1

Clayface too it "Seems" at least from Superman/Batman 20 and maybe Harely Quin

Ivy- Dead for now

Joker- not in the best shape right now



So basicly got a bunch of them


Black mask got the green K that was stolen..so he MIGHT be connected

Even then that 3 deffinant batman member on the team

[IamtheRock3]

Oh Forgot Two Face- currenlty Reform

[Murrocko]

Isn't Two-Face sane now? Like didn't he get his face fixed and is now like a good guy?

[IamtheRock3]

Isn't Two-Face sane now? Like didn't he get his face fixed and is now like a good guy?


yup..but no one acknowledge it let, just had scenes that takes place before Hush..hope writers dont just FORGET!!

Hell they forgot in Dark detetive ALL READY..but I love the writer so I let it slide.

[Guts/Batman]

Well Mr Freeze in it..read Issue 1

Clayface too it "Seems" at least from Superman/Batman 20 and maybe Harely Quin

Ivy- Dead for now

Joker- not in the best shape right now



So basicly got a bunch of them


Black mask got the green K that was stolen..so he MIGHT be connected

Even then that 3 deffinant batman member on the team

I guess I missed him. I guess what I meant was the core VU. Not the ones they "contacted."

I do really need to re-read #1 and 2.

The was aVU Tie-in in Nightwing. So I'm not completely sure what to think is going on quite yet.

[pureclint]

There are tie ins with Batgirl and Robin as well as the Penguin is involved with the Society in VU.

[Guts/Batman]

I can't keep track of all the tie ins!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[pureclint]

Read teh Crisis Counselling on DC's website and the Listing they have here it helps a lot.

[Guts/Batman]

Read teh Crisis Counciling on DC's website and the Listing they have here it helps a lot.


I'll have to do that. Only really check their site for what's coming out what weeks.

[pureclint]

Paul has a great thread over in the main DCU forum that has all of the Counselling segments no longer on the DC site.

Also it looks like Black Mask is officially part of the Society now to:

"NIGHTWING #109

Impressed by Dick Grayson's "work" for the mob, Black Mask — now a member of Lex Luthor's Society — hired our undercover hero to help expand his criminal web into Bludhaven (the new home of Batgirl and Robin)!"

[Guts/Batman]

Paul has a great thread over in the main DCU forum that has all of the Counselling segments no longer on the DC site.

Also it looks like Black Mask is officially part of the Society now to:

"NIGHTWING #109

Impressed by Dick Grayson's "work" for the mob, Black Mask — now a member of Lex Luthor's Society — hired our undercover hero to help expand his criminal web into Bludhaven (the new home of Batgirl and Robin)!"


I didn't get the article but i looked through it. Saw something like that.

[handOFfate]

Isn't Penguin involved with the group? I just finished reading "Prelude to Infinite Crisis" and it looks like he's one of their arms dealers.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Harley and Ivy are in. Well, Ivy's dead now. I guess. I'm not sure how to figure out what's happening when between Gotham Knights and Superman/Batman.

[offrampclimber]

I think it is because they are too unpredictable. The last thing Luthor wants is a "wild card" screwing things up since he has obviously made plans well in advance.

Two-Face - One minute you could be talking to Two Face the next to Harvey Dent.

Joker- The Ultimate Wild-card. No one knows what he is doing..ever. Maybe even himself.

Riddler - I hear he's currently doing his thing in Ollie's home town.

Though Talia undoubtedly counts as a Bat villain.

Any thoughts?

Doesn't Catman technically count as a bat-villain? And hasn't Deadshot gone up against him, too...? They're not of the insane variety, but I always thought of them as Batman enemies.

[hangmanjury]

I'm hoping the series doesn't go by without appearances from the big and getting bigger guns, namely Joker, Ra's Al Ghul, Vandal Savage, Captain Cold, Sivana, Circe, and Per Degaton.