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fishtaco
06-07-2005, 03:01 PM
Should Illyana Rasputin (AKA Magik) come back?
Stephane Garrelie
06-07-2005, 03:11 PM
Should Illyana Rasputin (AKA Magik) come back?
Of course she should come back! and the legacy virus crap should be totaly retconed. that was a stupid way to talk about aids in the first place. a very hypocritical way. :mad:
xakko
06-07-2005, 03:13 PM
please please please please!
pretty please, with promise to buy everything she's in on top?
I hated the Legacy Virus storyline. It killed off far too many characters that I liked. I liked Illyana, with her sweet, innocent girl/demon sorceress dichotomy. Hell, I just loved her as Kitty's best friend in GLMK. Granted, making her the uber-bitch she was in Exiles would probably lose me after a while, but darnit, I want her back.
Beast
06-07-2005, 03:18 PM
Sure. Never liked how the writer killed Piotr's family, his sister, and then made him commit suicide. Now we have Piotr back, may as well bring back his lil 'Snowflake' also. House of M should leave her alive after the event, just to make her return easier. :)
Rasputin
06-07-2005, 03:28 PM
Damn right! The more Rasputin family members to return to the X-Universe, the better!
Tenebrae
06-07-2005, 03:29 PM
Absolutely.
I'd love to pretend that I think bringing characters back from the dead is a violation of the sanctity and importance of death, that it nullifies the emotional impact of a well written death, that bringing people back takes the drama out of the other deaths... but I don't. That seems to be the intelligent way to view this issue and I'd love to be seen as intelligent! When push comes to shove, though, I just want to read stories about the characters I love. I'm glad Peter's back, I'm glad Betsy's back. I felt joyful after reading the issues where they returned because they were back in my life. Sad but true.
For me, their return hasn't negated the power of their deaths, its just increased the power of their returns, and given the characters, and their relationships with others, increased depth and resonance. I love Illyana. I enjoyed the Legacy Virus, I cried when she died, I thought her death was well-written, meaningful and impactful, but I want to read about her again. I don't actually believe she'll come back permanently any time soon, and I can also understand why many fans would be enraged if she did return... but I wanna see her. Can't deny it.
xakko
06-07-2005, 03:32 PM
Damn right! The more Rasputin family members to return to the X-Universe, the better!
I was never that thrilled with Mikhail.
All things considered, I find it interesting that Piotr was the weakest, power-wise, of the Rasputins. Sorry, middle child syndrome kicking in.
Maybe he's due for secondary mutation- maybe something with with his energy signature?
Stephane Garrelie
06-07-2005, 03:32 PM
Sure. Never liked how the writer killed Piotr's family, his sister, and then made him commit suicide. Now we have Piotr back, may as well bring back his lil 'Snowflake' also. House of M should leave her alive after the event, just to make her return easier. :) I think Whedon said some months ago that she will be in his second year run
By the by you saw that our various messages about your secret identity were delated? "the same" in my PM was a ref to Ibrake's "I did. I won't reavel it except if you want me to" .
Writers and editors: Bring Back Illyana and keep Amanda alive.
Beast
06-07-2005, 03:37 PM
Maybe he's due for secondary mutation- maybe something with with his energy signature?
No! No! No! A million times no! No secondary mutations! :p
Bryan Rios
06-07-2005, 03:38 PM
Yes. Illyana SHOULD come back. I absolutely hated that she was killed. In fact, I hate the Legacy Virus all together.
Beast
06-07-2005, 03:41 PM
By the by you saw that our various messages about your secret identity were delated? "the same" in my PM was a ref to Ibrake's "I did. I won't reavel it except if you want me to" .
I saw, and no worries. And yes, that is I. :D
Yes, Illyana Rasputin should come back to the X-Men. I would like Chris Claremont to writer her in Uncanny X-Men since he can think of a creative way to bring her back from the dead. Actually, her resurrection would be the most logical & easiest to explain since Limbo deals with both space & time. As Magik, she controlled space & time via Limbo's stepping discs...
Sandoz
06-07-2005, 03:57 PM
Actually, her resurrection would be the most logical & easiest to explain since Limbo deals with both space & time. As Magik, she controlled space & time via Limbo's stepping discs...
Exactly. Given the very nature of Limbo, it would be easy to bring back Magik and little Illyana's "meaningful" death from the Legacy Virus wouldn't have to be contradicted at all.
Vegetarian Goat
06-07-2005, 03:57 PM
awright!! who voted NO??? ;)
Beast
06-07-2005, 03:59 PM
awright!! who voted NO??? ;)
I dunno..... but let's lynch 'em! :D
nubly
06-07-2005, 04:01 PM
Yes, Illyana Rasputin should come back to the X-Men. I would like Chris Claremont to writer her in Uncanny X-Men since he can think of a creative way to bring her back from the dead. Actually, her resurrection would be the most logical & easiest to explain since Limbo deals with both space & time. As Magik, she controlled space & time via Limbo's stepping discs...
yes after all, he was very creative in the way he brought back psylocke and the dead marauders
xmanson
06-07-2005, 04:11 PM
No.
Love her, a fantastic character.
But I want her to remain dead. She's been away from the books for too long there really isn't a spot for her now. I like to think she had her history and then it reached the end. I think this should happen much more, it would help the whole line a lot if characters went away. For good.
Little snowflake, rest in peace.
yes after all, he was very creative in the way he brought back psylocke and the dead marauders
Psylocke's resurrection has not been explained. The Maruaders resurrections were to be explained as Mr. Sinister possesses the original bodies in suspended animation then make a new clone for each dead Marauder. The only Marauder without a true clone is Malice since she is a psychic entity; however, I believe Malice's template came from either Zaladane or Lorna Dane's DNA...
McJoe
06-07-2005, 04:21 PM
All things considered, I find it interesting that Piotr was the weakest, power-wise, of the Rasputins. Sorry, middle child syndrome kicking in.Eh? A guy who can bench between 75-100 tons and is close to invulnerable is the weakest? Those other two must be damn powerful.
And hell yes bring Magik back! I'd be more than thrilled if they retconned everything Lobdell ever did. Illyana should have never been reverted back to childhood in the first place, and especially not killed off. Frankly, I'd like to see a New Mutants book starring all of the original cast, with Magik onboard.
Stephane Garrelie
06-07-2005, 04:22 PM
No.
Love her, a fantastic character.
But I want her to remain dead. She's been away from the books for too long there really isn't a spot for her now. I like to think she had her history and then it reached the end. I think this should happen much more, it would help the whole line a lot if characters went away. For good.
Little snowflake, rest in peace.She had her history, it reached it's end, then bad writer newby bring her back to kill her for the legitimation of the hypocritical legacy virus crap.
It's true that a part of her history reached it's end with inferno.
But she's a masterpiece of the claremontverse. many stories are waiting to be said.
Flight
06-07-2005, 04:24 PM
The Rasputin family BORES me!
nubly
06-07-2005, 04:27 PM
Psylocke's resurrection has not been explained. The Maruaders resurrections were to be explained as Mr. Sinister possesses the original bodies in suspended animation then make a new clone for each dead Marauder. The only Marauder without a true clone is Malice since she is a psychic entity; however, I believe Malice's template came from either Zaladane or Lorna Dane's DNA...
yes i know psylocke's return hasnt been explained, thats my point. and claremont never explained how the marauders returned, someone else did
Stephane Garrelie
06-07-2005, 04:27 PM
The Rasputin family BORES me!
Illyana isn't boring. Peter can be very interesting.
the Lobdel characters like his version of Mickail don't really count. for me at least.
yes i know psylocke's return hasnt been explained, thats my point. and claremont never explained how the marauders returned, someone else did
But Psylocke's resurrection will be explained by Uncanny X-Men #470. Claremont left the books in 1991; therefore, someone else had to explain the Marauders. But Claremont will likely go back to the Marauders & Mr. Sinister at some point in Uncanny X-Men....
The Fury
06-07-2005, 04:32 PM
Although I would like her to return to the world of the living and the explanation could be quite easy with her connection to Limbo and all.
I don't think she should, But I don't know why. Not the Dead=Dead rule, I like ressurections.
McJoe
06-07-2005, 04:55 PM
The Rasputin family BORES me!Fair enough. I can definitely relate, because the Summer's family bores me to tears (well, except for Cyclops, Corsair, Rachel and Nathan).
xakko
06-07-2005, 05:02 PM
Fair enough. I can definitely relate, because the Summer's family bores me to tears (well, except for Cyclops, Corsair, Rachel and Nathan).
So... that leaves Philip and Deborah (grandparents), Katherine, Jean. Maddie, and Alex?(flight, he's calling you out)
Well, I suppose that also counts Nate Grey, little Scotty, Hyperstorm...
nubly
06-07-2005, 05:04 PM
Fair enough. I can definitely relate, because the Summer's family bores me to tears (well, except for Cyclops, Corsair, Rachel and Nathan).
so that would leave x-man, havok, phillip/deborah summers, stryfe, genesis, hyperstorm and possibly x-treme
Joe Zool
06-07-2005, 05:06 PM
Voted No--
No, no, I'm only kidding. Voted Yes. :)
McJoe
06-07-2005, 06:00 PM
Holy...yeah, I was trying to be clever and take a lighthearted shot at Havok, but clearly I have no idea how many of those damn Summers are out there. ;)
Honestly, the only two I ever really cared about were Cyclops and Havok. Likewise, I only really care about Colossus and Illyana, and not Mikhail and the parents.
TrickyDisco
06-07-2005, 06:18 PM
IMHO I 'd love to see her back in the X-books, but dealing with "I am this person now/then but will become a whole different person in the future" is kinda hard to explain....
I'd love for it to be Illyana just as she was in New Mutants (before she was de-aged), jumping into the Now. Would make for some very interesting storylines!
80's Illyana ruled all.
fishtaco
06-07-2005, 06:20 PM
delete post.
xakko
06-07-2005, 06:27 PM
IMHO I 'd love to see her back in the X-books, but dealing with "I am this person now/then but will become a whole different person in the future" is kinda hard to explain....
I'd love for it to be Illyana just as she was in New Mutants (before she was de-aged), jumping into the Now. Would make for some very interesting storylines!
80's Illyana ruled all.
I agree. Little, powerless Illyana can never realy be more than a plot device. I wonder, giving hints of a return,exactly how they would shape her personality. Will she be the Darkchylde right off the bat? Will she even have the whole Limbo/Belasco connection?
Speaking of which, do you think that, had she gone to train with Dr. Strange after the whole Kulan Gath thing, that her evil side could have been tempered with good? I'm thinking making friends with the more benevolent mystical types might've helped.
Or, and how would Rachel react to another of Kitty's "best" friends showing up?
The Lucky One
06-07-2005, 06:44 PM
Technically, Magik isn't dead; an alternate reality young Illyana Rasputin is. Magik herself is in parts unknown, possibly trapped in Limbo. As the New Mutants themselves wondered about, when they saved a young Illyana from Limbo and brought her back to Earth, they didn't negate Magik's existence, eliminate their own memories of her, or cause a time paradox. The only way that works is if they brought back an alternate version, who would later die of Legacy. Magik/Darkchilde herself hasn't been seen since Inferno ended, but she's still out there somewhere...
-D
Jack Flash
06-07-2005, 06:56 PM
I'd love to see Magik back and Amanda Sefton returned to the airs as everyone's favorite flight attendant! I don't care who writes it as long as she's back with a story that resolves the poorly thought out New Mutants Mini of a while back. Have Mikhail be back too, but as a major baddie.
Ant-Man
06-07-2005, 07:05 PM
I voted no. Two many dead characters have already been brought back in the X-men universe.
TrickyDisco
06-07-2005, 07:08 PM
I agree. Little, powerless Illyana can never realy be more than a plot device. I wonder, giving hints of a return,exactly how they would shape her personality. Will she be the Darkchylde right off the bat? Will she even have the whole Limbo/Belasco connection?
Speaking of which, do you think that, had she gone to train with Dr. Strange after the whole Kulan Gath thing, that her evil side could have been tempered with good? I'm thinking making friends with the more benevolent mystical types might've helped.
Or, and how would Rachel react to another of Kitty's "best" friends showing up?
Now *that* would be a killer, Kitty has had her share of 'best friends' over the years, hasn't she? ;)
I'm not too sure if she could have been converted much by working with Dr. Strange on her powers, they were evil-based to begin with....but that would be a very interesting alternate reality story for sure...
Jeez, look at me, all I think of is how those 'what if' odds would develop into current storylines? :p
Redray
06-07-2005, 08:47 PM
so that would leave x-man, havok, phillip/deborah summers, stryfe, genesis, hyperstorm and possibly x-treme
Umm, who is Hyperstorm? Where'd he/she come from or show up??? ( I really thought I had a handle on all the Summers!)
Back on track though... ABSOLUTELY bring her back, Magik is WAY overdue for her return! It was evil (pun intended) for CC to tease us with that Limbo mini a few years back that hinted at Illyana's return and then instead give us Amanda Sefton as the "new" Magik. I think that devalued both Illyana (making her less than unique as the mistress of Limbo) and Amanda (making her successor to a character who was younger and less experinced in the mystic arts than she was) as characters.
I agree with Lucky... technically the Illyana we all knew and loved disappeared with no explanation at the climatic point of Inferno... the question is: WHERE is she?
(Well. The question REALLY is, actually, WHY has Marvel left such a popular character out in the cold for sooooo long? Thinking as a corporate entity, in possession of a potentially powerful cash-cow... does it make sense?)
Deathstroke
06-07-2005, 09:01 PM
Absolutely.
At one time she was my favorite character.
Alphaxman
06-07-2005, 11:33 PM
I'm torn. I do love the character but how many people can they bring back from the dead? But now that I think about it, her death could be the easiest to explain. She was just in lymbo all this time or she went to another time period or something :confused:
xakko
06-07-2005, 11:43 PM
Umm, who is Hyperstorm? Where'd he/she come from or show up??? ( I really thought I had a handle on all the Summers!)
Back on track though... ABSOLUTELY bring her back, Magik is WAY overdue for her return! It was evil (pun intended) for CC to tease us with that Limbo mini a few years back that hinted at Illyana's return and then instead give us Amanda Sefton as the "new" Magik. I think that devalued both Illyana (making her less than unique as the mistress of Limbo) and Amanda (making her successor to a character who was younger and less experinced in the mystic arts than she was) as characters. )
Hyperstorm (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=568) is Jonathon Reed Richards, son of Franklin Richards and Rachel Summers from an alternate universe.
Amanda seems to have made the place her own in the new Nightcrawler series, but yeah, she was more fun as Daytripper.
Blackcat
06-08-2005, 12:29 AM
I say: NO WAY !!!! They brought enough back from the death! Magik should stay dead. There are enough characters in the Marvel-Universe to use. I'm one of the few (it seems) who thinks: dead = dead. Or it must have be planned like the Cyclops, Northstar or Psylocke story. But not like they did with Peter.
I know I will not make any new friends after this .........
.
milhouse123321
06-08-2005, 02:50 AM
I love Illyana.
One of my favourite comic characters of all time, under Spidey and the original X-Men Angel, Iceman and Beast.
She's a fantastic character and her revival could be written very believeably.
My only problem is that she is remembered so fondly by me (and obviously many others) that if she WAS written poorly then I'd be quite disappointed.
But I voted YESSSSSS
Grendel0606
06-08-2005, 05:22 AM
Yes, by that I mean Magik, and not kid Illyana. Her return would be far more feasible (giving the nature of limbo and the several Illyanas) than those of Colossus or Psylocke. Plus, before Simonson took over writing New Mutants, Illyana was an immensly popular character, often overshadowing the others (probably a reason why she was taken out)
Flight
06-08-2005, 05:44 AM
Holy...yeah, I was trying to be clever and take a lighthearted shot at Havok Like everything you do in life, it FAILED MISERABLY.
The only Illyana stories I've read are the ones Fabian & Scott wrote in the 90s just before her death.
I had to SNEEZE to stop my self from DOZING OFF.
Speaking of which, do you think that, had she gone to train with Dr. Strange after the whole Kulan Gath thing, that her evil side could have been tempered with good? I'm thinking making friends with the more benevolent mystical types might've helped.
Dr. Strange said Illyana just needed to be around her friends & family to keep her grounded; Strange said he could contribute nothing to Illyana's sorceress powers that she does not already know.
A part of Magik's soul was transformed demonic when Belasco performed the bloodstone ritual. The Darkchilde is inherently evil. Benenovelent mystics would have been powerless to keep Illyana's dark side under restraint.
For the most part, Magik used her black magicks for good. Since she used evil magicks, it twisted the most simple spells.
When Illyana became ruler of Limbo, Belasco lost his demonic appearance & powers. This implies that their is a shared link between Belasco & Magik.
streator
06-08-2005, 09:06 AM
i did. i never liked magik, whether as a child or a teen.
Jack Flash
06-08-2005, 10:17 AM
i'd love to see Magik back as a villain. She would kick butt and it would HURT the X-men.
That JonoGuy
06-08-2005, 10:21 AM
Absolutely NOT!
Charagon
06-08-2005, 11:45 AM
If ever a character had a built in reason for ressurection, it's Magick.
fishtaco
06-08-2005, 11:48 AM
Absolutely NOT!but whyyyy-i-i-i-i-iiyyyy?
Tre Styles
06-08-2005, 02:18 PM
No. Is it possible to be done? Yes. Should it be done? No. Why? There have been wayyyy too many ressurections, especially among the X-Folks. What purpose would it serve to have Yana back? So she can have a squad at the Academy? No. I don't think there is a reason to have her back. I understand she's a fan-favorite, but I also think that her death was a pivitol point in the X-History, and in particular Kitty's and Colossus's. (Did I think he should've been brought back, no, not really....am I glad he's back, yea, just because he's a favorite of mine) If Illyana was to be brought back, I wouldn't be upset or mad. I'd probably like it if it was done right, but there needs to be some sort of purpose for these mass resurrections. Right now, I see no need for Illyana to return. I think what the X-Men need is some new blood, new storylines, and new ideas. Illyana, I love her, but her time has come and gone.
*ducks* :D
Nightcrawler
06-08-2005, 02:48 PM
She was good, but I wasn't too fond of her 'demoic' fase. She should come back, though.
PerfectBrak
06-08-2005, 02:56 PM
There's been a lot of ressurection or the return of characters that "weren't really dead" lately. Magneto, Psylocke, Colossus, Rachel Grey; lets give it a break for a little while. I love the character, but Magik can wait a bit longer.
xakko
06-08-2005, 03:06 PM
There's been a lot of ressurection or the return of characters that "weren't really dead" lately. Magneto, Psylocke, Colossus, Rachel Grey; lets give it a break for a little while. I love the character, but Magik can wait a bit longer.
which begs the question: since these resurrections are a part of comics, which do you prefer- should they come all at once, be spaced out (one a year?) or do you not care?
hbkabdul
06-08-2005, 08:28 PM
I have been wondering what exactly are Magik's powers?
fishtaco
06-08-2005, 08:49 PM
I have been wondering what exactly are Magik's powers?She can summon a sword (called the Soul Sword) from the dimensional realm called Limbo. The sword only works on magical entities, though. She can also generate portals called Stepping Disks that go through Limbo to just about anywhere (so she's a teleporter, effectively). She can also manifest armor, I think. go to www.uncannyxmen.net and check out the Magik Spotlight.
Redray
06-08-2005, 09:04 PM
I have been wondering what exactly are Magik's powers?
Illyana's abilities are two-fold:
(1.) She's a mutant, with the ability to generate teleportation "stepping disks", which transport the user through space and/or time. Depending on her control, she can go anywhere/anywhen with them.
(2.) She was raised from the age of (roughly) 7 - 15 in Limbo, a magical extra-dimensional realm, and was there taught the use of magical/mystical arts by Belasco, who was the evil overlord of Limbo. His intention was to corrupt Illyana and use her as a sacrifice to his Dark Elder Gods in reward for greater glory/power/dominion. She was also tutored by an older magic-weilding version of Ororo, who made every effort to influence her towards the ways of "white" magic. Consequently, she is possessed of a variety of conflicting magical talents, most of which (originally) didn't work on Earth. Using her magical talents, Illyana forged something akin to a refined expression of her magical talents, imbued with the very essence of her being... the Soulsword. This became her "trademark" magical manifestation... and its applications are varied. Generally, however, it does not affect things of the physical world, only those of magical origin. In Limbo, the Soulsword has a far greater range of effect.
Hope that helps!
Beast
06-08-2005, 09:08 PM
Illyana's abilities are two-fold:
(1.) She's a mutant, with the ability to generate teleportation "stepping disks", which transport the user through space and/or time. Depending on her control, she can go anywhere/anywhen with them.
(2.) She was raised from the age of (roughly) 7 - 15 in Limbo, a magical extra-dimensional realm, and was there taught the use of magical/mystical arts by Belasco, who was the evil overlord of Limbo. His intention was to corrupt Illyana and use her as a sacrifice to his Dark Elder Gods in reward for greater glory/power/dominion. She was also tutored by an older magic-weilding version of Ororo, who made every effort to influence her towards the ways of "white" magic. Consequently, she is possessed of a variety of conflicting magical talents, most of which (originally) didn't work on Earth. Using her magical talents, Illyana forged something akin to a refined expression of her magical talents, imbued with the very essence of her being... the Soulsword. This became her "trademark" magical manifestation... and its applications are varied. Generally, however, it does not affect things of the physical world, only those of magical origin. In Limbo, the Soulsword has a far greater range of effect.
Hope that helps!
Wow. It's mini-DDM. Even down to the avatar. Bravo sir! :D
That JonoGuy
06-08-2005, 09:11 PM
but whyyyy-i-i-i-i-iiyyyy?
I REALLY dislike bringing characters back from the dead. Although, there probably could be a great story out of it, I just despise the concept of "no-one ever has to die".
Plus, i really liked the storyline in which she died.
fishtaco
06-08-2005, 09:30 PM
Right, because since I like Claremont's work and I know a lot about the X-Men, that means I'm a wannabe of someone else, right?
agh
The Lucky One
06-08-2005, 10:09 PM
Yeah, how come all the best X-men experts on this board have avatars with hairy chested masculine (sp?) men? I oughta change mine too, but I like my avatar...
*Ahem* Longshot is not hairy-chested, thank you very much.
:evilsmile
-D
Beast
06-08-2005, 10:13 PM
*Ahem* Longshot is not hairy-chested, thank you very much.
:evilsmile
-D
And that's why he's in limbo, and was killed by X-Babies. :D
The Lucky One
06-08-2005, 10:25 PM
And that's why he's in limbo, and was killed by X-Babies. :D
I see somebody hasn't been reading his Exiles!
But you're right, it's not nearly as valiant a death as, say... being crushed by a rock. When your superpower is to not get hit by stuff.
-D
Beast
06-08-2005, 10:58 PM
I see somebody hasn't been reading his Exiles!
But you're right, it's not nearly as valiant a death as, say... being crushed by a rock. When your superpower is to not get hit by stuff.
-D
Ouch, that's just cold man. That's cold. :D
Cybak
06-09-2005, 12:10 AM
Illyana was one of my favorite characters from The New Mutants. I remember thinking how great it was, the second chance she got after her stint as the Darkchilde. She died just like Colossus, Psylocke and Cypher and on and on and on. To bring her back ruins a good story and any ensuing story because the dramatic effect is lost forever. A better idea would be to utilize Piotr's Savage Land son. Give him the Soulsword and the ability to shift into an armored form.
DBrewer75
06-09-2005, 01:13 AM
I don't think bringing her back would ruin a good story because the story wasn't that good to begin with
she was underused as a character.. she had much more potential :mad:
Redray
06-09-2005, 08:23 AM
Yeah, how come all the best X-men experts on this board have avatars with hairy chested masculine (sp?) men? I oughta change mine too, but I like my avatar...
Yeeek! Um, thanks guys, but I just LOOKED at DDM's avatar... :eek: I HOPE I don't look like a mini-dungeon-master-type-ogre! My avatar really is ME... I just forgot to smile!
(Smiling frantically now to improve public image!)
:D :D :D
Charagon
06-09-2005, 12:35 PM
It's not like you can't keep her dead and bring her back. She's a damn time traveler. She could come back and dig up her own body.
The idea that she will in fact know how and when she will die could be pretty interesting.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104799
MAGIK!!!! :D
sorry, I know this is from newsarama, but i found nothing about it at cbr.
Syzygy
03-18-2007, 07:33 PM
No.
Love her, a fantastic character.
But I want her to remain dead. She's been away from the books for too long there really isn't a spot for her now. I like to think she had her history and then it reached the end....
Little snowflake, rest in peace.
Agree.
And there's plenty of new characters who can make use of the screen time.
The past is the past. Even for a time traveler.
Peace,
Syzygy
Sunlitspire
03-19-2007, 06:43 AM
I just think its going to be interesting when Dust and Magik have a chance to talk after all Sunni Muslims not known for liking magic or trafficking with demons
Karl H
03-19-2007, 07:31 AM
No... Uncanny 300 was a wonderful issue and her death should have remained permanent after that.
jarrod
03-19-2007, 07:36 AM
She never should've been killed off, just like Rachel never should've been exiled to the future, Colossus never should've defected to the Acolytes and Captain Britain never should've become Britanic. The sooner Slobby's perpetual mistakes are all undone, the better.
rilokyle
03-19-2007, 09:10 AM
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104799
MAGIK!!!! :D
sorry, I know this is from newsarama, but i found nothing about it at cbr.
That's awesome news!! Thanks for sharing! I'm definitely going to be picking up this book now- my Illyana's back! About damn time.
The M.E.
03-19-2007, 10:18 AM
i agree that illyana's death in 304 (i think) was very touching, but im all for retconning it to get magik back! she was one of my very characters ever and it'd be worth it to have her again :).
Matthew K.
03-19-2007, 06:08 PM
i agree that illyana's death in 304 (i think) was very touching, but im all for retconning it to get magik back! she was one of my very characters ever and it'd be worth it to have her again :).
& we might get to see this wish come to harvest :D
Citizen V
03-19-2007, 06:15 PM
I decided to say yes,Claremont could write her again.
xmanson
03-19-2007, 06:43 PM
meh... Illyana was a fascinating charcater that managed to have her full story told. No need to drag her into this never ending story and all the possibilities of screwing up her charcater.
BTW, what the hell is she going to do?
xakko
03-19-2007, 06:57 PM
can i change my vote to "Not if she's going to be ruined by Kyle and Yost?"
Matthew K.
03-19-2007, 07:12 PM
meh... Illyana was a fascinating charcater that managed to have her full story told. No need to drag her into this never ending story and all the possibilities of screwing up her charcater.
BTW, what the hell is she going to do?
...more of a great story that was cut short & could easily be continued. It like one day you're loving your X-Men comic subscription & the next day it's cancelled without notice when you already paid a year's advance
Arilou
03-19-2007, 07:13 PM
I just think its going to be interesting when Dust and Magik have a chance to talk after all Sunni Muslims not known for liking magic or trafficking with demons
There are no "demons" per se, in islamic theology. There are jinn and there are angels. Jinn can be either good or evil. (They have free will just like humans do) Satan is an evil jinn named Iblith.
Pach!
03-19-2007, 07:15 PM
can i change my vote to "Not if she's going to be ruined by Kyle and Yost?"
I don't see it as an option.
rilokyle
03-20-2007, 03:07 AM
can i change my vote to "Not if she's going to be ruined by Kyle and Yost?"
Yes please! I hope they keep her in character.
samil87
03-20-2007, 08:53 AM
I thought she was already back (NXM #36)
Edit: oh apparently I'm wrong, it's some woman named Amanda (no idea who she is lol, just looked kinda magical). Guess I'll say yes then, and I think Kyle & Yost will do a good job with the character, really looking foward to their next arc.
Edit 2:Amanda's codename is Magik (or Daytripper apparently) too, really wish Marvel wouldn't recycle names, it confuses me. I'm sure everyone else already knew that, but I've learned something today anyway ;)
jarrod
03-20-2007, 09:06 AM
I don't see it as an option.
I don't see it as very likely either. :P
Colossusfan
03-20-2007, 09:47 AM
Illyana was one of the best characters from the New Mutants (I possibly only like Cypher more ... well, maybe equally), and she had so much potential - I say bring her back!
Matthew K.
03-20-2007, 02:46 PM
I thought she was already back (NXM #36)
Edit: oh apparently I'm wrong, it's some woman named Amanda (no idea who she is lol, just looked kinda magical). Guess I'll say yes then, and I think Kyle & Yost will do a good job with the character, really looking foward to their next arc.
Edit 2:Amanda's codename is Magik (or Daytripper apparently) too, really wish Marvel wouldn't recycle names, it confuses me. I'm sure everyone else already knew that, but I've learned something today anyway ;)
Amanda Sefton picked the Magik guise to confuse the baddies of Limbo into thinking she was the original Magik (see XM:Black Sun mini)
Scavenger
03-20-2007, 03:56 PM
BTW, what the hell is she going to do?
Fight with Rachel over Kitty!
The M.E.
03-20-2007, 05:26 PM
& we might get to see this wish come to harvest :D
god i hope so. i'm trying not to get my hopes up though ...:confused:
KittyPryde
03-21-2007, 11:08 PM
Please Please Please come back! I've missed her terribly!
Plus, Kitty needs a new (old) best friend/foil if Rachel ends up getting trashed...
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