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Mondo
06-02-2005, 04:29 PM
Hi eveyone I've just got recently back into comics, but I've always liked Magneto stories in the cartoon from 1992 and now I was wondering which are the top 10 Magneto stories in the comics ? Also in the one story I've got ( Magneto rex 1,2 and 3 ) what story came after in it and which story came out of the part when you see apocalypse walking into some dead guys and than he says soon or something. Any help would be appreciated.
Ant-Man
06-02-2005, 04:31 PM
X-Men #1 by Lee and Kirby.
DarkisLight
06-02-2005, 04:37 PM
A FIRE IN THE SKY by Chris Claremont(X-Men Classic #19)
Personally I find that to be the best Magneto story ever. It presented to the reader his past life and his relationship with his wife, Magda, and his first daughter, Anya. The whole story left me crying...
nubly
06-02-2005, 04:40 PM
i always liked the magneto and rogue savage land arc that ended in #275. cant remember where it started though
Mondo
06-02-2005, 04:41 PM
Thanx, you guys maybe some more recent stories cause I'm not a big fan of the art in the earlier issues.
The Lucky One
06-02-2005, 05:09 PM
X-Men #1-3 works as the last Magneto story (though of course it really wasn't). The best stories featuring him include UXM #150, the Classic X-Men one listed above, God Loves, Man Kills, and the Savage Land arc that concluded in UXM #274. He was pretty out-of-character in Fatal Attractions, a 1993 crossover, but since you're new to him, you might not mind as much.
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Mister Mets
06-02-2005, 05:24 PM
A FIRE IN THE SKY by Chris Claremont(X-Men Classic #19)
Personally I find that to be the best Magneto story ever. It presented to the reader his past life and his relationship with his wife, Magda, and his first daughter, Anya. The whole story left me crying...
I love this story (probably my favorite Magneto story). Thr best place to find it is Magneto #0, which includes another excellent back up story, and can be found in dollar bins.
Other Favorite Magneto Stories
Uncanny X-Men #111-113- In the first epic by Claremont & Byrne, Magneto just beats the holy hell out of the X-Men, and tortures them horrificly.
X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills- The X-Men & Batman team up against a power mad minister. One of the best comic book stories ever.
New X-Men #146-150- The infamous Planet X storyline, in which Magneto does some very nasty things to New York City, and the X-Men. And it doesn't end well for him.
Uncanny X-men #150- Solid single issue story in which a powerless X-Men must stop Magneto's plans for world domination. Highlights include Magneto taking on nuclear submarines, and Storm debating whether or not she should kill him.
X-Men the Movie- Excellent performance by Ian McKellin
X 2: X-Men United- See above.
Magneto's top 10 stories:
Uncanny X-Men #104 (vs the new X-Men)
Uncanny X-Men 111-114 (The X-Men get separated from Phoenix & Beast; each thinks the other is dead which sets in motion a darker tragedy. Magneto's base is destroyed & defeated)
Classic X-Men #12
Classic X-Men #19 (becomes Magneto)
Uncanny X-Men #149-150 (Magneto questions his methods when he nearly kills Kitty Pryde)
Uncanny X-Men #161 (flashback)
Uncanny X-Men #199-200, The New Mutants #35 (joins the X-Men, becomes Headmaster of Xavier's school)
The New Mutants #38-40 (Magneto closes the school due to Empath's instructions by the White Queen; the New Mutants become Hellions; the White Queen makes the Avengers her pawns as they fight Magneto for her)
Uncanny X-Men #274-275 With Rogue, Kazar, & Nick Fury as allies, Magneto fights Zaladane as she attempts to consolidate her power by absorbing Magneto's powers along with the ones stole from Polaris; Zaladane is killed in this issue as Magneto returns to his true nature. Or does he?)
The New Mutants #75 (Magneto vs Sebastian Shaw)
X-Men #1-3 (second series), the end of an era
Flight
06-02-2005, 05:32 PM
Planet X is the ultimate Magneto story!
jcp011c
06-02-2005, 06:10 PM
I must be the only person here who liked the "Eve Of Destruction" storyline.
Still, to pick 10 I'd really have to think - as I'm not a big fan of the first few appearance of Magneto and didn't warm up to the character until they gave him some humanity, around UXM #150.
All time favorite would have to be X-Men 1-3. Eve of Destruction and the Mangeto Dark Seduction Mini Series were also good.
Anything but Magneto War. The whole confusing details with Astra and Joseph the clone...really botched up what could have been a great storyline.
Be Stiff
06-02-2005, 06:16 PM
Planet X is the ultimate Magneto story!
Seconded. You have to understand that it's trying to reconcile all the disperate Magnetos over 40 years of publishing into a single entity in the same way the run as a whole reconciles all the different takes on Phoenix into one entity. You've got the crackpot schemer of Lee/Kirby/Tomas in the run up to #146 as well as the Claremont noble wiseman in the form of Xorn, then the post X-Men #3 nutter who can and will kill thousands to achieve his goals. You've got all the character memes in there: the machavellian, the mentor, the genocide survivor, the maniac, the depressive.
A few thoughts on the resurrection suffle: I posted on another board just after Here Comes Tomorrow that the perfect way to bring him back would be via Jean: she fixes things that get broken, and she clearly has nothing but compassion for him as she reaches out to remove sublime (immediately prior to getting killed, of course). It would have been a great arc to have Jean as a cosmic parole officer rehabilitating him.
The whole impostor angle is bullshit, of course, and it's very harmful to both the character and the universe he inhabits. I'm guessing the goody Mags we see right now is what happens when you let an increasingly apeshit scarlett witch near her dad's dead corpse, especially when she's always wanted him to act just like the Mags in Excalibur. that would be a neat way around things.
Zero Hunter
06-02-2005, 06:27 PM
Aside from the reveal that Xorn was Magneto Planet X was just crap. Pure and simple. Even Marvel relized how bad they screwed up and that is why they let Claremont change the Magneto in that story to an imposter so fast. It was just crap. Morrison took a character who had been given tons of growth and turned him back into a raving nutjob which he hadn't been shown as in 20 years except for the horrible Eve of Destrustion story.
cable guy
06-02-2005, 07:05 PM
I really liked Planet X. But I hated the fact Magneto was Xorn(at the time), because I thought Xorn was a cool character.
I'll admit right now, I liked it better the second time I read it.
Be Stiff
06-02-2005, 07:22 PM
Actually, after XM #3 he's shown to be consistently nutty, launching an EMP blast that kills thousands, posing as Erik the Red to do... stuff, near ripping the bones out of Wolverine, threateninging to flip the earth on it's poles, forming half of Onslaught and bringing the world to the brink of war. In terms of numbers, he kills almost as many prior to Planet X as during.
There are three Magneto personalities: The Lee/Thomas/Kirby scheming despot (UXM #1-UXM #150), the Claremont visionary (big sloppy retcon, this) #150-X-Men #3 and from then on we get the genocidal maniac (broken up with a quick attempt to redem him as Joseph that they retconed into oblivion) until NXM #115 when he's present to witness first hand the deaths of 16 million people at the hands of himan built death machines.
Magneto's "growth" was cut off and cautarised as soon as XM #3 was retconned. Morrison did nothing new, he just found a better way to tie the character together into a cohesive whole. Planet X was a fine, fine story arc - #146,# 149 and #150 are all absolutely classic issues.
Forefinger
06-02-2005, 11:50 PM
i always liked the magneto and rogue savage land arc that ended in #275. cant remember where it started though
Me too. That whole period of X-Men was my favorite. The Shiar story after that was pretty darn good as well.
jetter_cheeze
06-03-2005, 12:03 AM
A really good alternate take on Magneto can be found in the original age of apocalypse stroyline. Magneto fighting for Xavier's cause...good stuff.
dotdotdot
06-03-2005, 12:41 AM
some where he's leading the team, xmen 1-3, planet x, uncanny 273(?)-275
etc
Huzzah!
06-03-2005, 04:12 AM
basically what ddm has said.
Planet x was all hype no substance as soon as here comes tommorow came out. Before that i disliked the story, but could respect it somewhat. Sure pill popping genocide neto was terribly out of character, but the working better as a t-shirt angle was interesting in some way. When Morrison made it a mind control story how could he expect anything but a retcon? Selling magneto that short and making him a tool or really a lesser villain had no way of sticking.
Morrison was one of these writers that had decent enough ideas, but had no way to make them congeal within the x-verse. Okay the x-men are wearing leather now, but why? The explaination given is shoddy at best, and wolverine's written disdain for costumes is another such awkward moment. Of course this switch was poorly placed too, it would have made far more sense to make the change when the x-men went public. The major changes are hoisted upon the characters, thus they are unnatural in appearance. It's easy to make xavier go public if it isnt xavier in his body, its much harder, more satisfiing and more likely to stick if the character makes some growth and comes to the decision himself.
this is the problem with planet x and its setup through the xorn mess. Now not only does the xorneto thing not make sense but the fact that we are just presented with a pill popping magneto drugdealer without in story as to why is sloppy writing. The sublime mind control seems almost more like damage control than anything.
Be Stiff
06-03-2005, 09:28 AM
He was being slipped the drugs by one quarter of Weapon XIV, if I remember right.
Pill-popping is completely consistent with the character's history, man. He's hooked on his power and he gets hooked on whatever gives him more power, that's thoroughly established.
And genocide isn't in character? Pior to UXM #150, he was more than capable. After XM #3 he just came out and tried it: at least three attempts in the 90s.
Not denying that Morrison can be an obnoxious, self-indulgent writer, but he nailed Magneto perfectly.
streator
06-03-2005, 09:45 AM
uncanny 309(?), the story about xavier/magneto/ameila voght
nxm 146 was a good magneto issue, taking that character as magneto
Erik Lehnsherr
06-03-2005, 10:02 AM
The day Planet X Magneto is the character "nailed perfectly", I'm done with the X-Men completely. Thank goodness that overextended verision of Magneto was thrown in the trash and now we are heading in his real direction with the choices he has to make about his daughter.
But X-Men #1-3, Magneto #0(the story where Anya dies tragically because of human bigotry and humans betraying Magneto to help Nazis was great), and X-Men #85(second series) where Magneto picks a lone human to decide the fate of humankind.
Erik Lehnsherr
06-03-2005, 10:04 AM
The day Planet X Magneto is the character "nailed perfectly", I'm done with the X-Men completely. Thank goodness that overextended verision of Magneto was thrown in the trash and now we are heading in his real direction with the choices he has to make about his daughter.
But X-Men #1-3, Magneto #0(the story where Anya dies tragically because of human bigotry and humans betraying Magneto to help Nazis was great), and X-Men #85(second series) where Magneto picks a lone human to decide the fate of humankind.
Mister Mets
06-03-2005, 10:27 AM
Aside from the reveal that Xorn was Magneto Planet X was just crap. Pure and simple. Even Marvel relized how bad they screwed up and that is why they let Claremont change the Magneto in that story to an imposter so fast. It was just crap. Morrison took a character who had been given tons of growth and turned him back into a raving nutjob which he hadn't been shown as in 20 years except for the horrible Eve of Destrustion story.
Note thst the Eve of Destruction was his last appearance, so Planet X was simply respectful of that issue's continuity.
* edit. Given that the thread was started by a newcomer to the X-Men, it may not have been a good idea to reveal the second biggest surprise of Grant Morrison's New X-Men run.
Nefarius
06-03-2005, 10:28 AM
That's my favourites:
1.Uncanny X-Men #149-150
2.The New Mutants #75
3.Eve of Destruction crossover
4.Fatal Attraction crossover
xakko
06-03-2005, 11:14 AM
I myself liked the Magneto of Uncanny 199 and 200, where he is reminded that for all his vast power, he is still human
Charagon
06-03-2005, 12:17 PM
Given that the thread was started by a newcomer to the X-Men, it may not have been a good idea to reveal the second biggest surprise of Grant Morrison's New X-Men run.
Why? It saves him from reading it.
Nightcrawler
06-03-2005, 12:20 PM
The first X-Men was great. A classic, for sure.
DarkisLight
06-03-2005, 09:04 PM
The day Planet X Magneto is the character "nailed perfectly", I'm done with the X-Men completely. Thank goodness that overextended verision of Magneto was thrown in the trash and now we are heading in his real direction with the choices he has to make about his daughter.
From one Magneto fan to another: I clap for thee! :D Exactly how I think of it.
Anyway, some of the best stories ARE the older ones when writers weren't trying to label their 2-dimensional characterizations as "new" and "moving forward". I still say 'A FIRE IN THE NIGHT' is the best story when it comes down to viewing Magneto more as a man than a mutant. The story following it in Magneto #0 is also good because it shows Magneto's slow progression into a villain with the death of his new girlfriend being the straw that broke the camel's back.
I personally have always been one to enjoy stories about a character's past or family relations. A story that focuses more on characterization than how much action the character can do in two panels. That's why I find myself attracted to such stories as 'A FIRE IN THE NIGHT' or even the story about Magneto finding out Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch are his children. Hell, I'm even considering scanning all 12(?) pages of 'A FIRE IN THE NIGHT' for a scan community at livejournal, so if you'd like me to save you the time of looking for it, I can PM it to you.
:)
Oh, and a little shout out to the Magneto fans on the boards: I made my own version of the popular "Magneto was Right" t-shirt designs and will have it uploaded to my website in a bit. I also made one of Deadpool and his belief that clowns are the greatest threat to the public. A link should pop up in my signature about it shortly...
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