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PrimalScream
05-31-2005, 07:30 AM
i think it's thor or sentry or maybe the hulk at a push.who do you think/know it is? :confused:

Titanium
05-31-2005, 08:38 AM
No one is stronger than Hulk. No one.

estee
05-31-2005, 09:22 AM
Obviously, the Scarlet Witch. She smoked 'em all and it took a non-Avenger to save the day.

The Shadow
05-31-2005, 09:31 AM
Photon (Monica) because she can move at the speed of light and become energy and fry someones ass before they knew it.

ChildOfTheDarkholde
05-31-2005, 09:35 AM
Photon, Sersi

PrimalScream
05-31-2005, 09:38 AM
what can sentry do?what are his abilities?he is described as Marvel's superman.is he better or worse than the boy scout?

Giant Guy
05-31-2005, 09:53 AM
Pure strength ie: muscle - 1. HULK, 2. Thor, 3. Hercules

Most Powerful - Captain Marvel/Photon

PrimalScream
05-31-2005, 09:58 AM
Pure strength ie: muscle - 1. HULK, 2. Thor, 3. Hercules

Most Powerful - Captain Marvel/Photon

do you mean Genis-vell or Monica? Genis took the marvel name from monica and now is has also called himself photon.

Dark Soul # 7
05-31-2005, 10:05 AM
Donīt forget about Quasar who has managed to defeat a rogue Watcher all on his own. I say he can take Photon(Monica) and Hulk.
How he does against Thor, Sersi or Sentry I donīt know.
But heīs in the top five.

PrimalScream
05-31-2005, 10:10 AM
Donīt forget about Quasar who has managed to defeat a rogue Watcher all on his own. I say he can take Photon(Monica) and Hulk.
How he does against Thor, Sersi or Sentry I donīt know.
But heīs in the top five.

definitely.i forgot all about him. does he still have ego the living planet trapped inside him?

Dark Soul # 7
05-31-2005, 10:12 AM
definitely.i forgot all about him. does he still have ego the living planet trapped inside him?
Never knew he had it in the first place.
Are we talking about the same guy?

PrimalScream
05-31-2005, 10:20 AM
yeah he got it in maximuim security saga and had to leave earth incase it escaped from his body or something.poor guy. :(

Dark Soul # 7
05-31-2005, 10:23 AM
yeah he got it in maximuim security saga and had to leave earth incase it escaped from his body or something.poor guy. :(
well I know he came back so he probably got rid of Ego.

PrimalScream
05-31-2005, 10:27 AM
and your right about him being powerful. during maximuim security the silversurfer wasn't strong enough to absorb ego but quasar managed it with little discomfort.sorry to keep bringing up ego.

Giant Guy
05-31-2005, 10:47 AM
do you mean Genis-vell or Monica? Genis took the marvel name from monica and now is has also called himself photon.

I forgot Genis has taken Photon. I definitely meant Monica. She needs to be Captain marvel now.

Quasar may be number 2 next to Captain Monica.

Tobias March
05-31-2005, 11:08 AM
Someone give me a heads up on Sersi? What was her story?

And wasn't Starfox an Eternal? Does that count for anything (long before my time).

Atom_basher
05-31-2005, 12:25 PM
the top 5 are in no particular are order

Thor
Photon (Rambeau)
Sersi
Quasar
Sentry

bjtrdff
05-31-2005, 12:36 PM
Sentry sassed Galactus to a draw...hulk didn't...;)

Gaz
05-31-2005, 01:35 PM
Sentry sassed Galactus to a draw...hulk didn't...;)
"HULK SMASH POINTY HELMET MAN!" :D

StoneGold
05-31-2005, 01:58 PM
Sentry's whole point of existance is that he's the most powerful guy in the MU. That's his shtick.

marvelboi77
05-31-2005, 02:30 PM
Looks to be the Scarlet Witch.

mushroom2703
05-31-2005, 02:33 PM
Lmao scarlet witch. I know it must be the sentry, but i'd still regard the Hulk as the msot powerful. Its the Hulk's bag. If the sentry didnt have super-strength, he'd still have his other funky powers. If the Hulk didn't have super-strength, he would just be the dumbest. Thats not cool.

DDM
05-31-2005, 03:01 PM
Hulk (raw stength)
Thor
Iron Man
Photon
Moondragon (psionic powers)
Carol Danvers as Binary, Warbird
Scarlet Witch (plot device)

Ant-Man
05-31-2005, 03:06 PM
Sentry's whole point of existance is that he's the most powerful guy in the MU. That's his shtick.

Exactly. It's Sentry all the way ;) .

DDM
05-31-2005, 03:14 PM
Exactly. It's Sentry all the way ;) .

Sentry is useless if people can't remember him.

Gaz
05-31-2005, 03:16 PM
Sentry is useless if people can't remember him.
Um, no-one does remember him, beyond Reed and Strange.He still killed Carnage in seconds.It's if HE remembers that his powers are back in play.

StoneGold
05-31-2005, 03:23 PM
Sentry is useless if people can't remember him.
Read Legion of Superheroes to find out how wrong that is. The most powerful guy in that universe is such BECAUSE people don't remember him.


Besides, if something is the most powerful, but is relatively unknown, does that make it less powerful? No. It just makes it less well known.

Will.S
05-31-2005, 03:23 PM
Well, Sentry of course.

Before him, I'd say Hulk (does he even count?), Thor and Photon (Monica).

Kid Kyoto
05-31-2005, 03:26 PM
Captain America, I mean he's got a frizbie and a big A on his forehead and everything.

damngary
05-31-2005, 03:29 PM
I think:
Sentry
Thor
Hulk
..... their are others, but it would take to long for me.

I cant count Scarlet Witch yet, mainly just because she cant control herself yet, I know hulk is not the smartest (in a sense), but scarlet witch justlost her mind and it seemed she cant control it, (just an opinion, dont kick my a$$)

Ant-Man
05-31-2005, 03:35 PM
Captain America, I mean he's got a big A on his forehead and everything.

If he has a big A on his forehead, then what's in his mouth?

nubly
05-31-2005, 03:50 PM
jarvis took on a demonized car with nothing but an umbrella. surely that must count for something

Gaz
05-31-2005, 03:52 PM
jarvis took on a demonized car with nothing but an umbrella. surely that must count for something
Most idiotic Avenger? :p

BobC
05-31-2005, 04:44 PM
Wrong on Photon. She zapped Zuess with all her power and he was still conscious. And since Thor is more or less on Zuess' level powerwise, Thor is the most powerful Avenger. Ever. Sersi and Photon and Hercules and the Hulk are all a close second.

ghostrider666
05-31-2005, 06:24 PM
THOR, the God of thunder.

Atom_basher
05-31-2005, 06:32 PM
How is quasar not making these lists

LordAllMighty
05-31-2005, 07:39 PM
When you say power, do you mean energy output?

If so...

Able to discharge an almost unlimited amount of energy for extremely long periods of time (i.e. able to lay waste to a planet).
Thor
Sentry (If what I've read about his powers are true ;))

Able to discharge high levels of energy for long periods of time
Quasar
Photon
Sersi
Thunderstrike

Able to discharge high levels of energy for short periods of time
Capt. Marvel (Genis)
Scarlet Witch
Invisible Woman
Firestar
Jack of Hearts
Human Torch
Firebird
Iron Man
Warbird

Able to discharge low levels of energy for long periods of time
Living Lightning
Crystal
Justice

Able to discharge low levels of energy for short periods of time
Vision
Jocasta
Wasp
Darkhawk

HartyPotter
05-31-2005, 08:46 PM
Sentry seems to be the clear answer if you've read up on him. Perhaps only a time traveller can beat him? Otherwise, if there are any limits to his power, it hasn't been established yet.

Dark Soul # 7
05-31-2005, 10:29 PM
How is quasar not making these lists
Because they havenīt read the Quasar respect thread.
So hereīs a link to it.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=29822&highlight=Quasar
great thread by Thorion.

Dark Soul # 7
05-31-2005, 10:31 PM
the top 5 are in no particular are order

Thor
Photon (Rambeau)
Sersi
Quasar
Sentry
I couldnīt agree with you more.

Wrong on Photon. She zapped Zuess with all her power and he was still conscious. And since Thor is more or less on Zuess' level powerwise, Thor is the most powerful Avenger. Ever. Sersi and Photon and Hercules and the Hulk are all a close second.
I can understand Sersi and Photon but the Hulk and Hercules? All they have is strength, Quasar is way more powerful than them.

PrimalScream
06-01-2005, 03:46 AM
How is quasar not making these lists

quasar was mention in the previous page by me and dark soul.

Smarty Jones
06-01-2005, 04:06 AM
"Sentry is useless if people can't remember him."

More specifically, The Sentry has not done anything in an actual book to suggest he's that powerful. Most of his miniseries cited off-panel stuff that's been taken as the gospel on CBR (especially that "holding Galactus to a stalemate" line that's thrown around so much).

Assuming we're talking about characters with a significant and substantial membership with The Avengers, I have to say:

1.) Thor. He's been the gold standard of superhuman might among the Marvel heroes for years, even before he took over Odin's place as king of Asgard.

2.) Quasar. We're talking about a cosmic being not that far removed from Galactus' most powerful herald, The Silver Surfer.

3.) Photon. When utilized to her full potential, Monica Rambeau can give some of the most powerful people in Marvel a run for their money. She can move at the speed of light, alter her body density and discharge powerful energy beams.

4.) The Scarlet Witch. Wanda Maximoff has shown the ability to alter reality itself, given the appropriate amount of concentration. However, The Scarlet Witch has never shown that kind of ability consistently.

mattbib
06-01-2005, 04:36 AM
Wrong on Photon. She zapped Zuess with all her power and he was still conscious. And since Thor is more or less on Zuess' level powerwise, Thor is the most powerful Avenger. Ever.Except for the fact that he's dead and the others are not. ;) Plus if Sentry IS Superman's equal, we already saw Superman take down Thor in JLAvengers.

That said, how awesome would an Avengers mini be featuring the most powerful Avengers ever? Thor, Sentry, Quasar, Sersi, Captain Marvel II, Wonder Man, maybe a couple others...all responding to some mega-threat?

AllisterH
06-01-2005, 12:32 PM
Thor isn't on Zeus level (well, classic Thor anyway).

They did tussle once but Zeus put the smackdown on Thor.

As for a team featuring quasar, thor, sersi, there actually was once such a team.

However, I believe Gruenwald himself wasn't very fond of it because IIRC, "How do you write a situation where those 3 lose?"

True, this was before Morrison's Big 7 JLA which showed you can write great stories involving powerful characters but still, a team consisting of those 3 plus Monica Rambeau AND vision/iron man?

Dark Soul # 7
06-01-2005, 12:35 PM
True, this was before Morrison's Big 7 JLA which showed you can write great stories involving powerful characters but still, a team consisting of those 3 plus Monica Rambeau AND vision/iron man?
Add Sentry, Hercules and Hulk to that team and weīve got the most powerful Avengers team ever.

Nightcrawler
06-01-2005, 12:40 PM
Sentry. But since he isn't an Avenger yet, Thor, Hercules, and Hulk.

Dark Soul # 7
06-01-2005, 02:16 PM
Ok so so far the Avengers the most of us mention as the most powerful are. Thor, Hulk, Photon(Monica), Quasar, Sersi, Scarlet Witch and Sentry.
These are the ones whoīve been mentioned the most times I think.
Now an adventure with them out in space would be friggin brilliant.

We R. Venom
06-01-2005, 02:30 PM
The sentry is definately the strongest now. then thor and the hulk. at least on top.

Atom_basher
06-01-2005, 03:00 PM
are we talking physical strength, or overall power, i cant see hulk and hercules beating quasar

Dark Soul # 7
06-02-2005, 04:32 AM
are we talking physical strength, or overall power, i cant see hulk and hercules beating quasar
the thread title says most powerful so thatīs what Iīve been going on.

twilight
06-02-2005, 05:05 AM
I would imagine Thor or Scarlet Witch.

Or possibly the winsome Wasp :)

cable guy
06-02-2005, 06:17 AM
Scarlet Witch (House of M, say no more)
Thor (Was #1)
Sentry (may become # 1)

Capricons
12-04-2009, 10:57 AM
Thor, Quasar or Binary

Sersi and Photon are up there but Photon is stuck using that energy attack and Sersi doesn't really have the speed thing

Gabe De Los Muertos
12-04-2009, 11:00 AM
Sentry. Unlike Thor he doesn't die.

rogerio
12-04-2009, 11:02 AM
Black Widow.:smile:

Mobey Wee
12-04-2009, 11:20 AM
And this one was 4 years old. Wow.

trojanrabbit
12-04-2009, 11:32 AM
And this one was 4 years old. Wow.

Huh???????

Mobey Wee
12-04-2009, 01:11 PM
Huh???????

Thread is 4 years old. And it was revived so he could not mention Sentry as one of the most powerful.

marshal99
12-04-2009, 04:10 PM
Sersi , she can turn everyone else into toads. :wink:

Gabe De Los Muertos
12-04-2009, 07:04 PM
Thread is 4 years old. And it was revived so he could not mention Sentry as one of the most powerful.

Capricorns bumped it, not me.

Croxx
12-04-2009, 07:53 PM
Actually Photon staggered Zeus in that issue. She was the only Avenger that even had an effect on Zeus (they were on Mt. Olympus at the time). I do not think a non-Odin powered Thor was ever as powerful as Zeus.

hbk13in
12-04-2009, 08:00 PM
It has to be Thor coz he supposedly uses only 10% of his total strength and power(Cap mentioned it during civil war) in Midgard. So if he was running at full capacity i dont think there is any one as powerful as him. And remember Thor cracked Galactus armor

Vic Vega
12-05-2009, 01:31 AM
From reading this thread it looks like the 5 most powerful Avengers are:

Sentry
Thor
Sersi
Monica Rambeau
Quasar

Thor is the only A lister of this bunch. Marvel's most powerful characters aren't necessarily its most popular.

Should Doctor Strage be on this list too?

Addams
12-05-2009, 01:48 AM
1) Hulk having a bad day

2) Hulk having a not so bad day

3) Hulk having a good day

4) Thor

JulyDarth
12-05-2009, 04:52 AM
Sentry. Unlike Thor he doesn't die.

No he only gets his ass kicked up and down the street by Blue Marvel and cries like a little baby once anyone enters his head

Will.S
12-05-2009, 07:16 AM
From reading this thread it looks like the 5 most powerful Avengers are:

Sentry
Thor
Sersi
Monica Rambeau
Quasar

Thor is the only A lister of this bunch. Marvel's most powerful characters aren't necessarily its most popular.

Should Doctor Strage be on this list too?
Yes, Doctor Strange would definitely be on that list.

Gabe De Los Muertos
12-05-2009, 10:41 AM
No he only gets his ass kicked up and down the street by Blue Marvel and cries like a little baby once anyone enters his head

Entering the Sentry's head is dangerous in itself, just ask Emma Frost.

nicktem
12-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Hulk is the strongest physically and i know Sentry is up there but we saw Hulk beat the Sentry so he is out. But I would say Thor even at his current level without the Odin Force because he is still god of thunder and from that unbelievably powerful but he also has his earth power, which comes from his mother Gaea. As seen in Thor 7 or something when he splits the Earth, like a 9 on the richter scale. All that plus being an immortal and having tons of experience wielding his powers, hammer, fighting and being through many wars, and a fighting resume that has had him beat the likes of Ego the Living Planet, Eternals, Giants and Bor the granddaddy of all the gods and the creator of Asgard, and all kinds of other hardcore things. Thor is definitely the most powerful charachter all round.

wishpig
12-05-2009, 09:35 PM
1. If Sentry wasn't so damn unstable, I think it's safe to say he would be the most powerfull. However, he tends to be on the useless side more often then not.

2. Thor with Odin-Force would be a second. Dude killed EVERY marvel superhero and villian. He freakin melted wolverine with HIS EYES! And he seemingly killed Hulk and the Thing at the same time.

3. Hulk cause lets face it... if any superhero with powers akin to Thor, superman, sentry ect had a brain, they would just throw the hulk into space and be done with. But since they don't I would say Hulk gets third place.

marshal99
12-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Strange should never have been an avenger , he's a defender.

Will.S
12-05-2009, 10:12 PM
Strange should never have been an avenger , he's a defender.
Why not? I think he adds oomph and I liked when the NA were based in his Sanctum.

djsweet
12-06-2009, 12:43 AM
Strange couldn't even save The Avengers from a plane falling out of the sky. I guess being a temporary Avenger made Stephen Strange really suck?
The Sentry hasn't done anything impressive as an Avenger. His only pertinent fighting history shown on panel was losing to The Hulk and not being able to capture The Punisher.
Thor, Monica Rambeau, Quasar, Serisi (an elemental Eternal) Moondragon (one of the most powerful psi-powers in the MU)
Then Hulk, Then Sentry. Have any of his other powers ever been shown? The Sentry is like a virgin bragging in the bathroom, all talk no action!

djsweet
12-06-2009, 12:45 AM
Strange couldn't even save The Avengers from a plane falling out of the sky. I guess being a temporary Avenger made Stephen Strange really suck?
The Sentry hasn't done anything impressive as an Avenger. His only pertinent fighting history shown on panel was losing to The Hulk and not being able to capture The Punisher.
Thor, Monica Rambeau, Quasar, Serisi (an elemental Eternal) Moondragon (one of the most powerful psi-powers in the MU)
Then Hulk, Then Sentry. Have any of his other powers ever been shown? The Sentry is like a virgin bragging in the bathroom, all talk no action!

djsweet
12-06-2009, 12:50 AM
Sentry still sucks

tornshattered
12-06-2009, 06:38 AM
Definitely the Scarlet Witch.


Sentry still sucks

Well, DUH.

[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite
12-06-2009, 06:49 AM
Then Sentry. Have any of his other powers ever been shown? The Sentry is like a virgin bragging in the bathroom, all talk no action!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=411307

Capricons
12-06-2009, 07:17 AM
Hulk is the strongest physically and i know Sentry is up there but we saw Hulk beat the Sentry so he is out. But I would say Thor even at his current level without the Odin Force because he is still god of thunder and from that unbelievably powerful but he also has his earth power, which comes from his mother Gaea. As seen in Thor 7 or something when he splits the Earth, like a 9 on the richter scale. All that plus being an immortal and having tons of experience wielding his powers, hammer, fighting and being through many wars, and a fighting resume that has had him beat the likes of Ego the Living Planet, Eternals, Giants and Bor the granddaddy of all the gods and the creator of Asgard, and all kinds of other hardcore things. Thor is definitely the most powerful charachter all round.

Hulk is just really muscle, his attack strategy is very one-dimensional unless we are using Professor hulk.
Thor to me will always be the rock, he flies, he has battle skills and he uses a wider attack strategy. Thor uses attacks like lightning or opening up portals. I would also give credit to Sersi because she has telepathic moves and can do crazy things like transmute people.


Sentry still sucks


He started big
He was this hero everyone forgot about, like everyone forgot about pre crisis Superboy. The caped hero is back on the scene, one guy is having psychotic emo temper tantrums and beating cartoon gods like Mxy
The other guy in a cape is having psychotic schizo episodes and stalemating Galactus

Big hype, all big entrances but the big balloon burst.
One was depowered as a troll in his mama's basement
The other one became a tomato can like Jobberseid

Sentry has trouble lifting the shield carrier
He had his face blow off by his wife
He was beat down by Ms Marvel
He was beat down by Blue Marvel
He was beat down by She-Hulk


and Please, do not *re-direct* this thread to rumbles
because in there one or two people are baiting the Mods to be attack dogs,
You won't be able to say anything without getting bitten and deleted, the flow in rumbles is to parrot what someone says. If you offer your own personal view you will have a bite taken out of you
and all this for offering an alternative opinion

Will.S
12-06-2009, 09:12 AM
Strange couldn't even save The Avengers from a plane falling out of the sky. I guess being a temporary Avenger made Stephen Strange really suck?
Had Dr. Strange not been with the New Avengers they wouldn't have had instant transportation, beaten the Hood's crew twice, or successfully left Iron Man's patented "Bait them with Cap and power drain them" trap.

MrPsyguy
12-06-2009, 09:18 AM
The amazing powerful Ms Marvel!:wink:

XPac
12-06-2009, 09:37 AM
Tough question.

Thor, Sentry, and Dr. Strange all have very high upsides. I might even squeeze Quasar in there too.

But at least right now, ya gotta go with Wanda.

scouse mouse
12-06-2009, 10:48 AM
One of these guys:
Sentry
Sersi
Captain Marvel/Photon/Pulsar/Monica Rambeau
Thor

Ken Ashcroft
12-06-2009, 03:44 PM
Any of the following

Thor
Forgotten One
Quasar
Dr Strange
Sentry