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DrewTheXenocide
05-26-2005, 06:56 PM
Punk that derived in England to be exact. And I need some help with bands and resources. I don't want to be too broad. Just around four major bands that helped revolutionize music in general. They don't necessairily have to be popular,.
Actually, since the group I'm doing it with, already decided to do The Clash and The Sex Pistols. The two obvisou choices. I kinda want somewhat lesser known bands, that revolutionized the music more.
And any text based references would be a great help too. Some more famous ones that I could probably pick up at the library or bookstore.
Pepsigirl
05-26-2005, 07:02 PM
Just British bands? So no Ramones or New York Dolls or anything like that? Alright ummmm, The Damned and uh... I'm not that big on punk, but you should probably include The Damned in there somewhere.
E. Spears
05-26-2005, 07:15 PM
I'd put Siouxsie and the Banshees on that list, but maybe they're not punk and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
/no good at genres.
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Siouxsie & the Banshees, the Clash, X-Ray Spex, the Slits, the Sex Pistols are a good start. I'd hardly call Siouxsie & the Banshess a "lesser known band" considering they existed for 20 years (1976-1996) & inspired many other people to start their own bands!
Pepsigirl
05-26-2005, 07:30 PM
I'd put Siouxsie and the Banshees on that list, but maybe they're not punk and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
/no good at genres.
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I'm as confused as you are. I have no idea where punk ends and everything else begins.
E. Spears
05-26-2005, 07:52 PM
I'd hardly call Siouxsie & the Banshess a "lesser known band"
Me neither, I just mentioned them because they's British and punk.
Pepsigirl--sweet, now we can be confused together. yeeehaw.
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Punchy
05-26-2005, 11:59 PM
Actually, since the group I'm doing it with, already decided to do The Clash and The Sex Pistols. The two obvisou choices. I kinda want somewhat lesser known bands, that revolutionized the music more.
You gotta have The Buzzcocks in there. Also maybe Generation X.
howyadoin
05-27-2005, 12:13 AM
If Siouxsie Sue makes the list, then the Jam should, too.
I'd put Siouxsie and the Banshees on that list, but maybe they're not punk and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
/no good at genres.
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Siouxsie, Severin, Sue Catwoman, Billy Idol among others--aka "The Bromley Contigent"--originally followed the Sex Pistols to shows w/creator, Malcolm McLaren. Siouxsie wore provocative outfits such as her now infamous open bra, swatizka, & fishnets to cause a stir; she also wore her make-up to mimic that of the film, Clockwork Orange. Mclaren decided to do a "punk festival" at the 100 Club in 1976. Janet Susan Ballion became Siouxsie Sioux, Steven Bailey became Steven Severin (formerly Steve Havoc). Together they formed "Suzie & the Banshees" (this may be misspelled by accident, but this how the Banshees were billed on their debut). Billy Idol was originally schedule to be the Banshees guitarists, but he did not take them up on their offer since no one in the band knew anything about music. Idol would form Generation X instead.
With borrowed instruments from the Clash & little rehearsal time, Siouxsie & the Banshees took the stage with the 20 minute "The Lord's Prayer." (Marco Pirroni played guitar & the Sex Pistol's Sid Vicious played the drums) By the end of the gig, the Banshees were under the management of Malcolm McLaren & slowly the Banshees learned how to play their instruments. For two years the Banshees' fan following grew, yet they could obtain a recording contract until 1978. Robert Smith played a prominent role with the Banshees over the years between 1979-1984 as he substituted for them when one of the Banshees' guitarists deserted them in the middle of the Join Hands tour; he also recorded the 1984 album, Hyaena as a Banshee. In 1979, ex-Slits drummer, Budgie became the permanent drummer; he would also be the only other core Banshee accepted into the group. The Banshees would go through several guitarists over the years, never keeping any on a long term basis for various reasons. Siouxsie & the Banshees would be with Polydor from 1978-1995.
Siouxsie was at the epicenter of punk.
K'Nort
05-27-2005, 11:00 AM
Stranglers
Jam
Buzzcocks
Sham 69
Edit: Books
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805046402/ref=sid_av_dp/102-0639040-4679326?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0879306076/ref=sid_dp_dp/102-0639040-4679326?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312264941/ref=sid_av_dp/102-0639040-4679326?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
TomGun13
05-27-2005, 12:04 PM
Check out this site its from The Ongoing History of New Music from a radio station in Toronto. This is the first of 4.
http://edge102.com/ongoinghistory/sp_punk_rock1.cfm
And by the way you should watch the documentary End of The Century- The Story of the Ramones. Lots of good stuff. Joe Strummer talks about seeing them for the first time and it was like they were the Beatles on Sullivan.
Shevek
05-27-2005, 12:05 PM
No mention yet of The Ruts?
Crass might be worth a mention too, although i don't know enough about them, but i know they were very influential on the politics of the British punk scene...
Also if you're talking about punk in Britain you ought to mention the very strong influence of Jamaican immigrant culture (both musically in the form of ska and reggae and more generally as regards militant/anti-establishment youth culture) on punk as an emerging movement... search for the DJ and record promoter Don Letts...
Siouxsie and the Banshees: The Authorised Biography (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1860743757/qid=1117222895/sr=8-7/ref=pd_csp_7/104-1916794-6755165?v=glance&s=books&n=507846). The authorized book gives all the gory behind the scenes details of the group. Siouxsie is very vocal about her in-fighting she had with the Severin as the band disintergrated by 1995...
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