Your Mental Image of X-Men

[heretic]

I am certain that many long-time readers have seen an artist's depiction of a character and thought 'That ain't right!' IOW a mental image of the X-Character has developed above and beyond the pictures you see on the funny pages.

Here are a couple of mine: Storm: Sorry, but the all-too-common 'White Chick With Tan' thing is a bit sad and irritating. Take a look at some of the Dinka-born models in Europe... or Grace Jones in her prime... for an image of Ororo's features (prominant cheekbones and full lips/nose especially) and general body type. Despite the blue eyes and SilkyTresses(tm), I think Ororo would be only a few shades lighter than many of the women mentioned above in skin tone (we are talking Dark Chocolate here).

Before you ask small boobs and noticable muscle definition are mandatory.


Wolverine: Look, the guy is _short_! Most teenagers should easily be able to look him in the eye and all but the most petite adults of both genders (think just about all the X-Men) would be noticably taller.

Most artists get the powerful build and excess body hair right, but he should be neither overly pretty nor young looking. Logan would have enough lines in his face to pass for someone in his mid-to-late 40s at first glance (although his features should be of the sort that could be anything from an exceptionally worn 30 year old to a phenominally well-preserved man in his eighth decade).


Kitty: If I grew up in the suburbs, she would probably be the Girl Next Door. As it stands she is an ordinary suburban-born (and slightly geeky still insofar as her lack of fashion conciousness) College Freshman at first glance, perhaps in better shape than most. Yes she should look like she works out (and got talked into a tattoo), but in jeans and a jacket she would come off as a perfectly ordinary, if personable, young woman.


General for Women: Think Atheletes, not Playboy Centerfolds.

Further comments?

HTG

[The_15th_Sven]

General for Women: Think Atheletes, not Playboy Centerfolds. [/list]

Deffinately agree. I loved kitty's comment in Astonishing X #1 when emma asked why she was late: "Sorry, I was remembering to put my clothes on" :cool:

[The_15th_Sven]

General for Women: Think Atheletes, not Playboy Centerfolds. [/list]

Deffinately agree. I loved kitty's comment in Astonishing X #1 when emma asked why she was late: "Sorry, I was remembering to put my clothes on" :cool:

[Vegetarian Goat]

I think the only artist that has truly NAILED Kitty since Byrne left is Alan Davis. Every other interpretation of her ends up looking to polished.

[streator]

i disliked kia asimaya's interpretation of nightcrawler. he was horribly thin, lanky, and really not in character. larroca draws a good nightcrawler, in my opinion. he does look like a demon, but he still has a sense of charm about him.
i also disliked how colossus appeared during the mid-90's. too bulky.

[Gaz]

I think the only artist that has truly NAILED Kitty since Byrne left is Alan Davis. Every other interpretation of her ends up looking to polished.
I don't know, I like Cassaday's version, she has that whole "pretty but not perfect" look in AXM which feels right, and he makes her actually look her age, she's not a kid but noticably younger than Scott and Emma.

[jeangreydp]

For me, I always see Jean as drawn by Ian Churchill, or Greg Land. Usually I feel something is off otherwise.

[Bryan Rios]

Deffinately agree. I loved kitty's comment in Astonishing X #1 when emma asked why she was late: "Sorry, I was remembering to put my clothes on" :cool:
That line was fabulous.


I don't know, I like Cassaday's version, she has that whole "pretty but not perfect" look in AXM which feels right, and he makes her actually look her age, she's not a kid but noticably younger than Scott and Emma.
I agree completely. Cassaday's version of Kitty is perfect, I'd say.

[xakko]

this is why i'm nervous about the new casting for kitty for X3. kitty should be underendowed, as it were, with a nose that could never be mistaken for "button" when she and marrow were teammates, marrow kept going off on her being so perfect, but all i could remember is kitty's insecurities being around rachel

and logan isn't supposed to be handsome. short, covered in hair, i don't see where the idea of him being sexy comes from.

[Atomic Mongoose]

I agree with Heretic's comments about Storm having been drawn as a white chick with a tan, in the past. I never even realized she was of African descent until a couple years after I started reading comics!

I also think characters like Jean Grey and Psylocke, who were supposedly successful fashion models, should have uh... I dunno... unique facial features, maybe??? ANYBODY can look like a Playboy Bunny, but fashion models are usually not considered 'pretty' by conventional means, but more 'unusual' and 'memorable'. That's also how I see Kitty Pryde... I kinda think of her as a girl who has some quirky features, but slap on a lil' make-up and put her in the right dress, and she'd be a knock-out. It's just understated, i.e. Willow from BtVS.

I always liked Colossus massive and freakishly muscular. I like Nightcrawler skinny and agile... I hate it when he's drawn with the proportions of a 5'10", 180 lb. Midwestern Average Joe... it's just not Nightcrawler.

The ONLY artist who I will admit, cookie-cutters every one of his characters, from the face down to the body-type, is Joe Muderiera, but I love him anyway. His depictions of the X-Men are actually the ones that pop into mind instinctively, nowadays.

[KHNH]

I have been frustrated with X-Women for a while, probably the last 5 years or so. They all look exactly alike, (with, at times, Storm as an exception.) I am, of course, speaking of body-type and facial structure.
My main problem:
The hair is almost irrellevant, because everyone has midlength/long straight/wavy. Kitty, as I recall, *used* to have curly hair, but Whedon's run especially seems to have ended that. Rachel Summers' short hair is the only marked example of an outlier.
More on hair outliers:
Hub [Excaliber] has dreads.
Surge and Karma (from Academy X) have short hair. (for now)
Dust has Mystery Hair! (Damn that bur'qa!)
Ultimate Dazzler has spiked hers on occasion, and Ultimate Jean wears hers short.
[I am not including Storm's mohawk because, for god's sake, that was 20 years ago!]

That's all I can think of.
So, to sum up, when I think of X-Women, I think of long, flowing brightly-coloured hair. (Other than Kitty, and sometimes Rogue, can anyone think of an X-woman with brown hair?)

[Tenebrae]

Wanda has brown hair, if she counts as an X-woman, but yep, I've noticed before that brown hair isn't that common in comics generally. I'm sure there are lots of examples, but women with blonde, black or red hair seem to be far more commonplace.

Maybe artists feel brown hair isn't as vibrant and striking as the other colours, which is a shame really because I certainly don't think Kitty or Wanda have suffered for it.

[KHNH]

Maybe artists feel brown hair isn't as vibrant and striking as the other colours, which is a shame really because I certainly don't think Kitty or Wanda have suffered for it.

Not to get horribly off-topic, but studies show that men prefer marrying/working for brunettes- they are 'more trustworthy' appearing, apparently.
At any rate, if I was to design a character, I would give her short brown hair. Like, an inch past her ears. In a Vidal Sassoon bob. Very chic, and very easy to draw for artists.

[Huzzah!]

storm is supposed to look milado. They are going for a mother of all creation type look and giving her a multiethnic appearance. I mean she has straight white hair and blue eyes. Its sort of what an "Eve" might look like.


as for short hair its just not popular. Writers and artist have tried but it always fails. You have to introduce a character with short hair for it to stick.

[Archer]

Much as I like Lopresti's art on Excalibur, his Magneto and Xavier don't really match up with how I picture them.

Actually I'm trying hard to think of anyone who gets them just right for me, heh.

Xavier is far too often drawn like a musclehead, or at the other end of the spectrum the terrifying pot-bellied Xavier from the end of Morrison's run (don't have my comics here with me, so I can't check who drew it). From the previews of House of M, though, I like what Coipel is doing with him - lean, sharp, a bit aquiline.

I think the closest to my mental image of Magneto would be either john Bolton in Classix X-Men #12 or JrJr around Uncanny 200. Lopresti just makes him too "pretty" for me, and I don't like him being bodybuilder-big, which a lot of pencillers do. The way I picture him he's muscular but not *huge*, and looks fairly unassuming - the kind of guy who would be totally dramatic and impressive/terrifying in costume, but you wouldn't really noticed if he was walking down the street in a suit.

[Dr. Killbydeath]

Dust has Mystery Hair! (Damn that bur'qa!)

Actually, she has longish wavy/straight hair (see Academy X #2)...


I don't see the problem with the ladies of Xmen (or comics for that matter). You see Xmen is a fantasy book (as all comics are), and therefore body images are reflected as such. As far as the whole portraying unhealthy body images, guess what, the women aren't the only ones. All the Men of Xmen work out like 20 hours a day to maintain their muscle mass. I mean how often do you find a mansion full of olympic strength level (at least) men.

As far as hair goes: most comics are written and drawn by men, these guys are going to break any barriers within the hair design field...

[xakko]

The hair is almost irrellevant, because everyone has midlength/long straight/wavy. Kitty, as I recall, *used* to have curly hair, but Whedon's run especially seems to have ended that. Rachel Summers' short hair is the only marked example of an outlier.

That's all I can think of.
So, to sum up, when I think of X-Women, I think of long, flowing brightly-coloured hair. (Other than Kitty, and sometimes Rogue, can anyone think of an X-woman with brown hair?)

Kitty's hair was straightening for years before astonishing. It was wavy at the beginning of Excalibur. and by the 120's went completely straight. Her hair right now kinda matches the way she wore it for Brien and Meggan's wedding, as well as subsequent appearances in GLMK2 and "prisoner of fire"

as for x-brunettes, dr. reyes comes to mind. jubilee, dani, and karma all have black hair. wind dancer and dusk from Academy X.

[Archer]

You see Xmen is a fantasy book (as all comics are), and therefore body images are reflected as such.

While I agree with your general reasoning, I personally find X-Men best when it's *not* being escapist fantasy . . . and to say all comics are fantasy is just inaccurate (unless you're using "fantasy" in a sense so wide that all *fiction* would be fantasy).

[KHNH]

While I agree with your general reasoning, I personally find X-Men best when it's *not* being escapist fantasy . . . and to say all comics are fantasy is just inaccurate (unless you're using "fantasy" in a sense so wide that all *fiction* would be fantasy).

Ok, but does NO ONE fantasize about short-haired brunettes? I *know* there's a demographic!
haha

[Dr. Killbydeath]

General rule: all superhero comics are escapist fantasy.


Escapist fantasy doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't realistic. But you have to realize that 1)all art is done by different artists, so body shapes often change, and depending on the artisting thoughts of beauty and the general thought of beauty in the comic book market they will have different proportions. 2)If a comic has someone made ou of Mercury or ice, body shapes shouldn't really be read into as much as they are. I think it's worst to have Britney Spears on primetime tv wearing basically nothing, understanding that most of her fans are preteens, than to see Powergirl drawn with a triple D cup, understanding that the majority (I'm going to be crucified for this) of comic book fans are pre-post pubesent guys...

[Archer]

Ok, but does NO ONE fantasize about short-haired brunettes? I *know* there's a demographic!
haha

Well someone must - I'm a short, spiky-haried brunette and I've had at least one psycho who . . .

. . . actually that wouldn't just be off topic, it would also be too much information, so I'll leave it at that :P

[Archer]

General rule: all superhero comics are escapist fantasy.

I'm not going to get into much of a debate about whether all (or nearly all) superhero comics are escapist fantasy, at least until I know what working definition of the term I'm using . . . but I will say that the superhero comics I enjoy the most are ones which aren't so much about escapism as using the superhero setting to explore everyday issues: Spider-Man for me is about the responsibility of power, not web slinging; the X-Men to me are about minorities and what affects them (in a very wide sense); almost all the ones I enjoy a lot are fundamentally about being true to yourself. The powers and spandex and more escapist elements are more background to me.



Escapist fantasy doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't realistic. But you have to realize that 1)all art is done by different artists, so body shapes often change, and depending on the artisting thoughts of beauty and the general thought of beauty in the comic book market they will have different proportions. 2)If a comic has someone made ou of Mercury or ice, body shapes shouldn't really be read into as much as they are. I think it's worst to have Britney Spears on primetime tv wearing basically nothing, understanding that most of her fans are preteens, than to see Powergirl drawn with a triple D cup, understanding that the majority (I'm going to be crucified for this) of comic book fans are pre-post pubesent guys...

I don't think either is "bad", especially, but then again I'm not a great believer in the media having a huge impact on people. Just speaking artistically, though, it would be "good" to see more variation in body types. When every X-Man is cut like a bodybuilder, people like Colossus who should seem incredibly strong lose their impact.

[Dr. Killbydeath]

Regardless of what a the story is "about, you have to realize that the main character can stick to walls and shoot webbing, that in itself makes it escapist.


As for the media not having an afftect on people. Well, (not to be offencive or anything, but) you're wrong. The media always has and always will have an active role in influencing people. Propaganda has been used successfully since the days of the Roman empire, Napolean used it, Hitler used it, all American presidents have used it. Whether you agree or not, there has been a rise in the sexuality of young girls in the last ten years. The connection to Britney-eque role models is direct.

As opposed, young guys have always had an outlet for their fantasies, whether it's their dad's porns or a comic book, there really is no difference...

[Atom_basher]

actually storm was born in new york, so her features wouldnt be predominantly african

[Charagon]

Ok, but does NO ONE fantasize about short-haired brunettes? I *know* there's a demographic!
haha


I love short haired brunettes. Well, I don't know, is just above the shoulder considered short for a girl?


actually storm was born in new york, so her features wouldnt be predominantly african

Where did you get that from?

[Mr. Jip]

actually storm was born in new york, so her features wouldnt be predominantly african

WHAT?
i was born in Minnesota, but my features are predominantly ASIAN, NOT Scandinavian.

[Tenebrae]

Storm was born in New York, I believe, but her mother was African and her father was African-American, so that doesn't have a bearing on her physical characteristics. However, as I understand it, she isn't supposed to have traditional African features. As with her blue eyes and white hair, her facial features are a result of her mystical heritage, her ancestors being a line of priestesses. So, she's actually being drawn incorrectly when she is drawn with traditional African traits.

[newscott]

Cannonball should still have the goofy ears. He has matured, bulked up a little, but his eards were big and stuck out and it gave him a unique look that was oft forgotten.

As for how Logan should look, I liked the "Meldown" look, where he's almost troll-like in physique, and the way, in X-Men, Silvestri used to draw his face. Oh, and short like Art Adams used to draw him. like REALLY short.

[LoneWolf21]

this is why i'm nervous about the new casting for kitty for X3. kitty should be underendowed, as it were, with a nose that could never be mistaken for "button" when she and marrow were teammates, marrow kept going off on her being so perfect, but all i could remember is kitty's insecurities being around rachel

and logan isn't supposed to be handsome. short, covered in hair, i don't see where the idea of him being sexy comes from.

I'd imagine the Kitty thing was because at that point Kitty had practically become the archtype for the "perfect girl next door".

As for Logan, I think the image of him being much more handsome and sexy comes more from Hugh Jackman portraying him in the movies.

[Huzzah!]

WHAT?
i was born in Minnesota, but my features are predominantly ASIAN, NOT Scandinavian.

but do you worship thor?

as for wolverine i think jim lee generally drew him te best. short. cigar chomping. somewhat attractive (he sort of has to be to get his hotties). animalistic. very rendered. aged. etc.

[Archer]

Regardless of what a the story is "about, you have to realize that the main character can stick to walls and shoot webbing, that in itself makes it escapist.

I disagree, because as I said, to me the sticking to walls is a minor part of his character.


As for the media not having an afftect on people. Well, (not to be offencive or anything, but) you're wrong. The media always has and always will have an active role in influencing people. Propaganda has been used successfully since the days of the Roman empire, Napolean used it, Hitler used it, all American presidents have used it. Whether you agree or not, there has been a rise in the sexuality of young girls in the last ten years. The connection to Britney-eque role models is direct.

I'm not saying there is no effect, I'm saying I'm not *big* on it. If some girl wants to dress like Britney because that's what she sees on MTV, then that is still her choice - and if her life gets screwed up because she's trying to emulate a pop star, then I have zero sympathy.

Also, correlation is not causation. It is possible that the "rise of sexuality of young girls in the last ten years" has contributed to the rise of such images in the media, or that both have fed into each other, or that they are both caused by something else.


As opposed, young guys have always had an outlet for their fantasies, whether it's their dad's porns or a comic book, there really is no difference...

I think young girls have always had an outlet for their fantasies, as well (well "always" might be a strong term, but certainly when *I* was a young girl, I had plenty of outlets).

[heretic]

actually storm was born in new york, so her features wouldnt be predominantly african
Father: Black-American Photojournalist

Mother: Kenyan Noblewoman

Sorry, we are not looking at a WASP here.

HTG

[Dr. Killbydeath]

I disagree, because as I said, to me the sticking to walls is a minor part of his character.

Powers=content, story=form. You can't have one without the other. Comics (in general) use the powers and fantasy to arrive at the stories and are therefore just as important to the story as the story itself.


I'm not saying there is no effect, I'm saying I'm not *big* on it. If some girl wants to dress like Britney because that's what she sees on MTV, then that is still her choice - and if her life gets screwed up because she's trying to emulate a pop star, then I have zero sympathy.

Also, correlation is not causation. It is possible that the "rise of sexuality of young girls in the last ten years" has contributed to the rise of such images in the media, or that both have fed into each other, or that they are both caused by something else.

Let me use a good example to show you why this isn't ture. Scooters. Remember those stupid metal scooters that the media started pumping a few years back? Those might have been the stupidest things ever, but with enough air time, every kid in America wanted one. Modern media realizes the truth about consumers (especially childred); they are stupid and want to be told what to do. You really think a 12 year old girl would want to wear a bikini if they hadn't seen every one of their role models in them? Of course not. Before this oversexualized pop garbage kids wanted to be kids, but the media realized something. Kids don't buy expensive clothes. Women do spend alot of money on expensive clothes. Therefore if they start making the children think they are women at a younger age they will spend more on clothes (as well as make up and other accessories). Clothing companies have more money, so they spend more on advertising, giving tv channels more cash to spend on making more roles for oversexualized teenage girls.

Meanwhile little Suzie trades in here cabbage patch doll for lipstick and mini skirts.


I think young girls have always had an outlet for their fantasies, as well (well "always" might be a strong term, but certainly when *I* was a young girl, I had plenty of outlets).

That might be true, but not always at such a young age...

[KHNH]

as for wolverine i think jim lee generally drew him te best. short. cigar chomping. somewhat attractive (he sort of has to be to get his hotties). animalistic. very rendered. aged. etc.

In other words: Hot.

Anyway, I think they have done a great job so far casting the X-Men in the movies - (save Rogue, who is too wimpy looking for my taste, and Magneto, who, in the comics, is not as old/weak.) Even Halle Barry as Storm was pretty much what I visualized...

One a small side-note for Storm, I once skimmed a book about the protrayal of Africans and African-Americans in comics, and Storm was mentioned briefly as fitting into a liminal area where she had 'White' features, ie., the white hair and [sometimes] blue eyes, while still being an 'African Princess' type figure. They commented also that, should one read the comic in black-and-white print, odds are the reader would not know immediately that she is black. (The book, btw, is called "Black Images in the Comics: A Visual History" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560975466/qid=1117214066/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9098649-2643366?v=glance&s=books)

[Ryan K]

Bump.
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[Affinity]

I always got kind of pissed at the change of Emma after Morrison's New X-Men.

Quitely and Jiminez drew the DEFINITIVE Emmas for me. Her bitchy behavior was tolerable because she was young and almost immature. Quitely's humor is hilarious in its nuances, and stuff like Emma's posture or her downing some liquor from a flask, that was the perfect image of Emma that I like. Today, she's probably drawn more accurate if we consider her Hellfire Club origins and likely age, but I find myself angry at her behavior since she's not immature anymore. She's drawn as a grown woman who is just a pure bitch and that kills me, since she was a cute little bitch in Morrison's era.

I hate the new, older drawn Emma since it makes her less Paris Hilton-y and more *shudders* Sharon Stone. That's just me I guess, but that's my image of Emma that isn't fulfilled anymore. And I guess it IS inaccurate since she's definitely +27-years-old but you knowwww. It hurts.

[Affinity]

I also wonder why Storm does not have hair like Misty Knight?

[Faded]

I always got kind of pissed at the change of Emma after Morrison's New X-Men.

Quitely and Jiminez drew the DEFINITIVE Emmas for me. Her bitchy behavior was tolerable because she was young and almost immature. Quitely's humor is hilarious in its nuances, and stuff like Emma's posture or her downing some liquor from a flask, that was the perfect image of Emma that I like. Today, she's probably drawn more accurate if we consider her Hellfire Club origins and likely age, but I find myself angry at her behavior since she's not immature anymore. She's drawn as a grown woman who is just a pure bitch and that kills me, since she was a cute little bitch in Morrison's era.

I hate the new, older drawn Emma since it makes her less Paris Hilton-y and more *shudders* Sharon Stone. That's just me I guess, but that's my image of Emma that isn't fulfilled anymore. And I guess it IS inaccurate since she's definitely +27-years-old but you knowwww. It hurts.

Oh, totally! I don't like the melodrama that's been attached to the character recently. I know..they're trying to develop her and make her deep or something, but she's much less fun and moves away from what I enjoyed about the character.

Plus, while Quitely's design was kinda skanky, it was in your face and fabulous. All it really needed was pants, which Jiminez gave her in some issues (or it might've been her diamond form looking like pants, I don't remember).

[Nyssane]

Oh, totally! I don't like the melodrama that's been attached to the character recently. I know..they're trying to develop her and make her deep or something, but she's much less fun and moves away from what I enjoyed about the character.

Plus, while Quitely's design was kinda skanky, it was in your face and fabulous. All it really needed was pants, which Jiminez gave her in some issues (or it might've been her diamond form looking like pants, I don't remember).

While we're on the subject, I must say... Quitely drew the ugliest Cyclops I have ever seen. Yet, I remember back in the day, everyone was like "OMFG ONLY QUITELY CAN DRAW CYCLOPS EVER AGAIN, IT'S PERFECT." I was like *cringe* I'd take Kordey's Cyclops over Quietly's.

[rwsmith]

For some reason I always picture Mel Gibson from either Lethal Weapon or Braveheart as Wolverine. I think it's because of those lunatic eyes or something.

[Affinity]

While we're on the subject, I must say... Quitely drew the ugliest Cyclops I have ever seen. Yet, I remember back in the day, everyone was like "OMFG ONLY QUITELY CAN DRAW CYCLOPS EVER AGAIN, IT'S PERFECT." I was like *cringe* I'd take Kordey's Cyclops over Quietly's.

YEAH his jaw was pretty ugly. But I think he'd be able to draw a cool one today, seeing his work in All Star Superman.


Oh, totally! I don't like the melodrama that's been attached to the character recently. I know..they're trying to develop her and make her deep or something, but she's much less fun and moves away from what I enjoyed about the character.

Plus, while Quitely's design was kinda skanky, it was in your face and fabulous. All it really needed was pants, which Jiminez gave her in some issues (or it might've been her diamond form looking like pants, I don't remember).

TOTALLY in your face. It was amaaaaziiiinggg. Pants would have sold it! I do think Jiminez gave her pants. LEINEL YU drew the costume as ridiculous as it was in the Annual and she looked great! I like and miss that Emma.

[Slung]

I hate the new, older drawn Emma since it makes her less Paris Hilton-y and more *shudders* Sharon Stone. That's just me I guess, but that's my image of Emma that isn't fulfilled anymore. And I guess it IS inaccurate since she's definitely +27-years-old but you knowwww. It hurts.

Actually, I think Sharon Stone would be the perfect Emma or Nicolette Sheridan. Thats how I see Emma, like Edie in Desperate Housewives - immature, bitchy and middle-aged.

[Faded]

While we're on the subject, I must say... Quitely drew the ugliest Cyclops I have ever seen. Yet, I remember back in the day, everyone was like "OMFG ONLY QUITELY CAN DRAW CYCLOPS EVER AGAIN, IT'S PERFECT." I was like *cringe* I'd take Kordey's Cyclops over Quietly's.

I liked Quitely's characters and his version of Emma--but don't get me wrong, I think most his characters looked like frumpy little underground creatures with a kinky fetish for leather.

He did make Cyclops "slim", so I guess I can see where his diehard fans would be pleased.


TOTALLY in your face. It was amaaaaziiiinggg. Pants would have sold it! I do think Jiminez gave her pants. LEINEL YU drew the costume as ridiculous as it was in the Annual and she looked great! I like and miss that Emma.

I really don't think Emma started to *really* decline until the Warsong reveal and Torn/Unstoppable in Astonishing. She was still kinda fun then, if not much less the breakout character she was.

She was still really great under Milligan and under Claremont during the first part of Chasing Hellfire.

[Toboe]

Actually, I think Sharon Stone would be the perfect Emma or Nicolette Sheridan. Thats how I see Emma, like Edie in Desperate Housewives - immature, bitchy and middle-aged.

That's how I see her as well! Emma's totally Edie!

[Slung]

That's how I see her as well! Emma's totally Edie!
Yeah, Nicolette Sheridan would make a GREAT Emma if they make another X-Men movie.

[Dagger]

Actually, I think Sharon Stone would be the perfect Emma or Nicolette Sheridan. Thats how I see Emma, like Edie in Desperate Housewives - immature, bitchy and middle-aged.


That's how I see her as well! Emma's totally Edie!
Totally agree! I love this idea!

[Syzygy]

Before you ask small boobs and noticable muscle definition are mandatory.


General for Women: Think Atheletes, not Playboy Centerfolds.


The logic-bomb explodes!:eek:

But what you don't know is that, in the MU, breast implants are not limited to silicone, but can also be made of unstable molecules. Very popular with the super-set. Ergo, a super set for the super-set.:D

[We R. Venom]

I think the only artist that has truly NAILED Kitty since Byrne left is Alan Davis. Every other interpretation of her ends up looking to polished.

That's not true at all. Another artist that has trully NAILED Kitty is, Colossus. :D

[heretic]

I also wonder why Storm does not have hair like Misty Knight?
Odd genetic thing. Her great-great... grandmother back in the time of the Pharohs had the same hair and eyes, as did many of the which-priestesses of her line.

HTG

[Slung]

As mentioned earlier, Storm does not have common African features. She is meant to have a complex and rich look that is very diverse. White hair, Asian-shaped blue eyes, brown skin, etc. I remember an issue where little girl nanny-fied Storm is found by doctors and they comment about her unusual multi-racial features.

[Charybdis4]

Odd genetic thing. Her great-great... grandmother back in the time of the Pharohs had the same hair and eyes, as did many of the which-priestesses of her line.

HTG

There's always been hints/suggestions that Ororo has a mystical heritage which could explain her unique appearance. I kind of like that idea. I always thought John Romita Jr drew an awesome Storm. She had a regal look to her which hit the nail on the head for me.

Byrne's Colossus was pretty spectacular as was his Nightcrawler.

[Slant]

That's not true at all. Another artist that has trully NAILED Kitty is, Colossus. :D

Clever. ;)