Seifeld one of the greatest ever?

[hugh45]

I need some of y'all to explain to me,in why this show is consider one of
the greatest tv shows ever.It never had a wide crossover appeal like
the Mary Tyler Moore Show;Get Smart;Bill Crosby Show,should that be
considered when claiming something to be the greatest show ever.

I never understood many of his jokes and had someone to explain to me
most of the time.

I know other people (non-whites) who watched the show and got,but
not many.Please help this confuse bro.

[mgs]

a. you have to 'know' New York City

b. you are open-minded about comedy

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I think the show Is good. But Its nowhere close to the praise It gets. Most shows are like that. I watched Scrubs and found It was a good comedy. Not the show Its praised as being as great.


Once a show comes along and changes the game ( Friends , M.A.S.H , Seinfeld , Arrested Development ) critics rush out and proclaim It the " Greatest Ever ! " . But thats TV. And you usually forget what came before sad to say.

[TJEscobar]

I have never much of it but I liked what I saw. My favorite sitcom of all time is the Fresh Prince tho.

[Leslie Lee III]

I'm black, got all the jokes, loved the show. Best sit-com ever.

[Scorpion13]

Why was it so popular? It was just damn funny. No relationship stuff, no drama, just smart, witty humor, and great characters.

[StrawNilla]

For me, the greatest sitcom ever is a show that accomplishes its main goal: being funny. Seinfeld accomplished this (for the most part), and I think that's why many proclaim to be so great.

Not to mention that the show did touch on topics that were rather raw for a network like NBC, it was sort of like a toned down Sex and the City without all the focus on love in a relationship.

[Deathstroke]

b. you are open-minded about comedy

Or have a lobotomy so you agree with the crowd that thinks the show was any good.

I laughed at only one episode "The Contest."

Other than that it was an exercise in stupidity.

[GozertheGozarian]

Have to agree with Deathstroke. The ONLY show I've ever come across that managed to be worse than friends.

[JohnPopa]

It was as it joked 'a comedy about nothing.' It didn't follow the standard sit com formulas and it had its own brand of comedy and continuity, similar really to something like 'The Simpsons' that was both complete absurdism and yet also completely grounded in enough reality to still work as comedy.

Any show is hit or miss, especially one that works its best the farther out of the standard formula it goes.

One or two people's 'hated it' doesn't change the fact that the show added a lot of references and jokes to popculture and helped revitalize the sit com that was dying on the vine in the wake of losing the big eighties sit coms like 'The Cosby Show' and 'Cheers.'

[estee]

I'll admit that Sienfeld was a helluva lot better than Friends.

I liked the concept of these four totally amoral people who were able to maintain stable relationships with each other. The rest of the world suffered greatly because of them though.

Friends was like the anti-Seinfeld, totally fake and contrived.

[dougputhoff]

I use to love Seinfeld, but now it seems so vapid. The characters just seem to be amoral monsters, especially after 9-11. Now it's just a nothing show about a nothing era. About as relevant as an episode of I Dream of Jeanie.

[Matt K]

I use to love Seinfeld, but now it seems so vapid. The characters just seem to be amoral monsters, especially after 9-11. Now it's just a nothing show about a nothing era. About as relevant as an episode of I Dream of Jeanie.

I don't get your comments. How does 9/11 change how these characters are? And can you explain your nothing era comment. I remeber a lot of things happening in the 90's (hell, that's where I spent about half my life). And I have to say I really despise this whole 9/11 changed everything. Besides ineffective ariport security measures and an incompetent president getting reelected 9/11 didn't seem to make things any different than before. It's not like we hadn't seen domestic terrorism before either (OK bombing for example).

Back to the topic, I loved Seinfeld and I have to say I like it even better watching the episodes again in syndication. It might not be super funny all the time, but I defenitly could identify with some of the situations and others were still very funny.

[Leslie Lee III]

Besides ineffective ariport security measures and an incompetent president getting reelected 9/11 didn't seem to make things any different than before.

Thank you. Is the Arrested Development not funny anymore because of the Tsunami?

[dougputhoff]

I don't get your comments. How does 9/11 change how these characters are? And can you explain your nothing era comment. I remeber a lot of things happening in the 90's (hell, that's where I spent about half my life). And I have to say I really despise this whole 9/11 changed everything. Besides ineffective ariport security measures and an incompetent president getting reelected 9/11 didn't seem to make things any different than before. It's not like we hadn't seen domestic terrorism before either (OK bombing for example).

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Did the Oklahoma City Bombing result in America's going to war? Did it result in the office of Homeland Security and the Terror Alert System. Did it help to aggravate a recession? Did it make many people seriously question the value we put on celebrities (such as Jerry Seinfeld) and the lack of value we put on people who make a greater contribution to society, such as EMTs, Police Officers, and Firefighters? Did it lead to a decrease in the box office for serious films and an increase for escapist entertainment such as "Spider-Man," the Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings series?

[Patient Boy]

Using that line of reasoning nothing would be worth watching after 9/11.

[Matt K]

Did it make many people series question the value we put on celebrities (such as Jerry Seinfeld) and the lack of value we put on people who make a greater contribution to society, such as EMTs, Police Officers, and Firefighters?

It did? When did this happen? We still have people moaning about how the cops are out to get us. As for Firemen and EMTs, I have no clue when they lost their value since they always seemed cool to me.

Did it lead decrease in the box office for serious films and an increase for escapist entertainment such as "Spider-Man," the Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings series?

Again, are you sure this actually happened (I don't have the numbers but this is the first time I heard about this)? And your sure that the cause was 9/11, not file sharing (like the MPAA wants you to believe) or the horrid economy? And as far as I know all of these movies were in develoment way before 9/11. Hell, Spiderman was finished well before 9/11. As for serious movies, what do you call Hotel Rwanda, Million Dollar Baby, Super Size Me, Some Kind of Monster (one of the few documentries ever released nationwide in a movie theater), Tears of the Sun, etc?

[Leslie Lee III]

Did the Oklahoma City Bombing result in America's going to war? Did it make many people series question the value we put on celebrities (such as Jerry Seinfeld) and the lack of value we put on people who make a greater contribution to society, such as EMTs, Police Officers, and Firefighters? Did it lead decrease in the box office for serious films and an increase for escapist entertainment such as "Spider-Man," the Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings series?

No, but I don't really think it's clear 9/11 did any of that either. That NYPD stuff, just like the american flags, was a fad that is more than done. People still like TV and celebrities, always have always will. People like to laugh, and listen to music, and watch movies and be entertained so there will still be celebrities.

[meethraa]

I'm currently watching reruns on tv and it's still my favourite sitcom.
I'd say George Costanza is the funniest character in the history of american television.

[meethraa]

I use to love Seinfeld, but now it seems so vapid. The characters just seem to be amoral monsters, especially after 9-11. Now it's just a nothing show about a nothing era. About as relevant as an episode of I Dream of Jeanie.
I can't agree one bit with the singling out of both Seinfeld and 9/11, even from the point of view of the most isolationist american. That logic could be applied to virtually any work of comedy and any major tragedy, and a lot of serious things happened in the 90's while Seinfeld was at it's peak.

[dougputhoff]

I use to love Seinfeld, but now it seems so vapid. The characters just seem to be amoral monsters, especially after 9-11. Now it's just a nothing show about a nothing era. About as relevant as an episode of I Dream of Jeanie.

Except for the finale. The finale was one of the great TV moments of all time. Those sociopaths got what they deserved.

[Leslie Lee III]

Except for the finale. The finale was one of the great TV moments of all time. Those sociopaths got what they deserved.

It was fictional comedy show. Is there really a need to pass harsh moral judgment here?

I mean, did the dark ages start again and no one tell me about it?

[dougputhoff]

It was fictional comedy show. Is there really a need to pass harsh moral judgment here?

I mean, did the dark ages start again and no one tell me about it?

It's known as dramatic justice, and it this case, it worked.

[Matt K]

Except for the finale. The finale was one of the great TV moments of all time. Those sociopaths got what they deserved.

Ugh, I thought the finale was one of the weak points of the show. And for someone who claims to have liked the show, you really seem to have a lot of animosity for it.

[GremlinClr]

I use to love Seinfeld, but now it seems so vapid. The characters just seem to be amoral monsters, especially after 9-11. Now it's just a nothing show about a nothing era. About as relevant as an episode of I Dream of Jeanie.

I just don't get this. "I used to love Seinfeld! But then some terorrists blew up some buildings and killed alot of people and now I hate it!"

It seems to me from that statement that before 9/11 you looked at the world through rose colored glasses like it was a utopia from 9/10 back.

I just don't see the connection between an act of terorrism and a TV comedy.

[dougputhoff]

9-11 changed my perspective on the world. It changed a lot of people's perspectives--the way Pearl Harbor changed many people's perspectives 60 years earlier.

[GremlinClr]

9-11 changed my perspective on the world. It changed a lot of people's perspectives--the way Pearl Harbor changed many people's perspectives 60 years earlier.

Ok, I see that but...how? Did you not realize there was terorrism in the world before that? Maybe I'm not seeing the signifigance as 9/11 was just an act of terorrism to me. These acts have happend before, they will happen after, 9/11 was just on a much larger scale.