View Full Version : Batgirl Vs black Panther
Atom_basher
05-12-2005, 11:43 PM
Can Young ms Cain pull out a win here. both get a halfhour of prep time, but neither gets to study the others fighting style
edit: neither are bloodlusted, this takes place in teh khazan arena
Phrozen
05-12-2005, 11:45 PM
If BP has on his vibrarium weave suit Batgirl doesn't have enough power to get through it.
Metaphysician
05-13-2005, 06:18 AM
OTOH, BP isn't likely to hit her any time today,at least with his standard equipment set.
Stalemate.
heretic
05-13-2005, 06:29 AM
Full Gear means T'Challa gets Vibranium ArmourCloth that Cassandra is not hammering through. More to the point, he has the stamina to outlast her so I'd call it 6:2:2 in his favor (Cass may get smart with a garrotte or other low-kinetic-energy gear)
No Gear means the Panther is in trouble. She's too fast for him to avoid/hit and can do Nasty Things when she connects. Cassandra 8:10
HTG
Kaiju
05-13-2005, 06:59 AM
OTOH, BP isn't likely to hit her any time today,at least with his standard equipment set.
Stalemate.
Does the standard equipment include his energy daggers, etc.?
Just a question, would anyone pick Batgirl to take Cap in a fight with their standard equipment?
fuaak
05-13-2005, 07:21 AM
Just a question, would anyone pick Batgirl to take Cap in a fight with their standard equipment?
I would give her a narrow edge. Like, 5.5/10 or 6/10, more with time to study his moves. She's that good (hey, you don't get called the best MA in DCU for nothing).
Random thoughts: The deal with Cap is that he starts fights at a tremendous psychological advantage. He's a legend. He's always sure that he wins, and usually so are his enemies, and that's how he tends to take people that are plain more powerful than he is, like Spidey.
Black Panther's a rare example of somebody who truly doesn't fear him at all, and BG starts from the same default position.
srankmissingnin
05-13-2005, 07:32 AM
I would have thought BP and DS where about even in the speed department and Batgirl couldn't touch him in their last fight, at the very list BP will be able to keep up with Batgirl and with his standard gear he gets the win.
fuaak
05-13-2005, 07:35 AM
Note: Deathstroke got upgraded during Identity Crisis. He apparently kicks everybody's ass now no matter what, and most likely would stomp BP into ground.
In their previous match BG and DS were nice and even.
With Panther's vibranium suit it's too big an uphill battle for Batgirl. He can absorby her damage. Batgirl can dodge him for a while, but eventually she'll tire out of dodging energy daggers, and he'll nail her. It won't be fast or easy, but overtime he'll wear her down and beat her.
Draconomicon
05-13-2005, 08:36 AM
Is it the BP from the current BP book?
If so expect Batgirl to be retconned to a black 42 woman from zaire. Her father was the Joker and her mother Ras al Ghul.
Doesnt make sense?
Just like the BP book with its endless retcons....
fuaak
05-13-2005, 08:56 AM
With Panther's vibranium suit it's too big an uphill battle for Batgirl.
Hey. What can cut through a vibesuit?
The thread starter specified a 30 minute prep-time without the option of studying the opponent, so I'm trying to figure out what gear she could pick up that would even the odds (with standard gear BG is at a serious equipment disadvantage - sci-fi armor and weapons against kevlar and standard bat-toys is pretty nasty).
Does the standard equipment include his energy daggers, etc.?
Just a question, would anyone pick Batgirl to take Cap in a fight with their standard equipment?
I'd give Cass the edge, yes.
OTOH, I wouldn't really give either odds against Panther. That suits cheap.
Hey. What can cut through a vibesuit?
The thread starter specified a 30 minute prep-time without the option of studying the opponent, so I'm trying to figure out what gear she could pick up that would even the odds (with standard gear BG is at a serious equipment disadvantage - sci-fi armor and weapons against kevlar and standard bat-toys is pretty nasty).
Kraven somehow cut through it. I think it takes cutting along the seams to get in without a plot device.
Phrozen
05-13-2005, 12:25 PM
Hey. What can cut through a vibesuit?
Lots and lots of Iron Fists. The fact that BP only got brain damage from it and wasn't splattered tells you something about how much force the suit can absorb.
Dr.Fate
05-13-2005, 01:23 PM
Lots and lots of Iron Fists. The fact that BP only got brain damage from it and wasn't splattered tells you something about how much force the suit can absorb. Exactly, a charged up Iron Fist from Danny could take Luke Cages head off, now multiple that by about 100 and you get what was thrown at BP.
No way is Batgirl doing damage through that suit with normal strikes.
We R. Venom
05-13-2005, 01:28 PM
Well, Ill take the black panther. with that armor and his skills, too strong.
fuaak
05-13-2005, 01:32 PM
If the suit cannot be cut off, or penetrated with bladed weapons, can Tchalla be strangled through it?
If there's a way, Cass will find it and use it. If there isn't... well, Invulnerability Suit wins the day.
We R. Venom
05-13-2005, 01:36 PM
If the suit cannot be cut off, or penetrated with bladed weapons, can Tchalla be strangled through it?
depends how far it goes up i guess.
fuaak
05-13-2005, 02:01 PM
Kraven somehow cut through it. I think it takes cutting along the seams to get in without a plot device.
If that really works, it's conceivable that she could just do the same with a katana in a combat situation. She's nifty with swords like that. (*Looks at JLE scene of BG halving one of GA's arrows lengthwise while blindfolded*)
It's getting awfully tricky though... How do people usually get past that thing?
Just a question, would anyone pick Batgirl to take Cap in a fight with their standard equipment?
after the stuff I've seen Cap do in recent arcs? Nah, I doubt it.
Broblawsky0
05-13-2005, 03:25 PM
Black Panther seemed to stop using the suit by Avengers, so it may not count as standard equipment anymore.
Atom_basher
05-13-2005, 06:04 PM
correct me if im wrong, but isnt black panther wolverine like senses and endurance.
Dr Will Hatch
02-03-2010, 03:17 PM
How would current Panther and Batgirl do this?
HectorP
02-03-2010, 03:24 PM
Whoa necro.
Can BP keep up with her?
Pendaran
02-03-2010, 05:55 PM
What the necromancy..
the current one has a suit of high tech combat armour, that's a might bit beyond Cassie.
LordAllMighty
02-03-2010, 06:49 PM
I have no idea how this fight might go, mostly because of BP's new magical upgrade.
I'll let u know when Doomwars is over,
amazoniansrule
02-03-2010, 07:58 PM
I have no idea how this fight might go, mostly because of BP's new magical upgrade.
I'll let u know when Doomwars is over,
what magical upgrade??
LordAllMighty
02-05-2010, 01:19 AM
what magical upgrade??
After Doom kicked his ass, T'Challa had Witch Doctors magically upgrade himself...to the point that their magic couldn't kill him.
Aziz Abbasi
02-05-2010, 01:30 AM
Shori vs miss Cain? I don't know
T'Challa vs Ms. Cain? She can't be a better fighter
Sharpandpointies
02-05-2010, 03:22 AM
Shori vs miss Cain? I don't know
T'Challa vs Ms. Cain? She can't be a better fighter
I'm curious as to 'why not?', given that Cass has all the feats to prove that she is, in fact, a better fighter.
Pendaran
02-05-2010, 04:14 AM
I'm curious as to 'why not?', given that Cass has all the feats to prove that she is, in fact, a better fighter.
I think you are about to be told a story of one Norrin Radd and the day he and Mr Armbar went on a magical journey of wonders.
Sharpandpointies
02-05-2010, 04:20 AM
I think you are about to be told a story of one Norrin Radd and the day he and Mr Armbar went on a magical journey of wonders.
Could be...could be...
Pendaran
02-05-2010, 04:39 AM
Once upon a time, a very long time ago now, about last Friday, Cosmic the Armbar lived in a forest all by himself under the name of Sanders.
Armbar was the loneliest of all the nonsense martial art moves, and he would often see his neighbours, Punchy Nosebone and Victor W. Nostyle, surrounded by all their friends, going on trips and having exciting parties. But no one would come over to visit poor old Armbar, and he was all by himself.
Sometimes he would go to his jobbing log and sit and think about all the fun he was missing out on. "Job job job job job" he would say out loud as he thought, for he was a maneuver of very little brain.
One day a shiny silver man descended from the sky on a silver surfboard, right from the inside of the sun, in a solar flare that basically turned the forest into a radioactive crater.
"Cosmic the Armbar!" the silver man exclaimed!
"I feel like I should be dead fifty times over just for looking at you," is what Armbar might have said in reply, if he was not a maneuver of very little brain. Instead he just smiled to see what he knew would be his new friend.
"I have traveled through space, time, and black holes just to find you! Will you be my friend?" asked the silver man.
"Of course I will!" said Armbar, and leapt onto his new friend, bending his arm behind his back and paralyzing the energy being with sheer joy.
"Ow!" the silver man cried happily, and the two of them flew off into space together to have many wonderful adventures.
And Grover was the monster at the end of the book all along.
Sharpandpointies
02-05-2010, 04:46 AM
*Ovation*
*wipes eyes* Adrian has competition... :)
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