The Stryfe & MLF Appreciation Thread

[Sheldon]

http://home.**********/~pjo/comics/sixpack/images/stryfe4.jpg
Sure his helmet made it impossible for him to turn his head without hitting something, and sure unleashed to legacy virus, one of the longest lasting and silliest x-subplots ever, but we must accept his genius as the founder of the most feared group ever.....the Mutant Liberation Front!!!!

An equal opportunity employer, the Mutant Liberation Front deserves recognition of such fearful acts as.....umm well none come to mind, but any team featuring Thumbelina is a quality unit. Remember when Reaper got his hands chopped off? or when Forearm got his neck broke? Good times my friends good times....

Look at how fearsome they are!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/schoo/mlf_a.jpg

What is your favorite MLF moment?

[Sheldon]

Here is a great pic of Stryfe beating on Apocalypse! Can anyone say pwned?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/schoo/styfe_apoc.jpg

[fishtaco]

Stryfe rocks.

[Sheldon]

Yes he does
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/schoo/stryfe_face.jpg

Of note....how come Cable doesn't display the same level of male pattern baldness these days as back when he and stryfe debuted?

[Flight]

My favourite moment was in an X-Factor when X-Factor had hold of Stryfe's legs, The MLF had hold of his head and they were playing Tug of War with him through one of Zero's portals.

[Sheldon]

Zero's portals were always such a point of comedy. Remember when Reaper got his foot chopped off?

[Erik Lehnsherr]

I have plenty of Stryfe standouts:

When he framed Cable while almost killing Xavier in one fell swoop

His teleportation to Apocalypse and his clean defeat of the High Lord

Stryfe's riddles at Jean and Scott were just beautiful. Some of my favorite villian taunting in Marvel history.

[Kid Seven]

Thumbelina. Mini Me in drag?

Stranger things have happened. ;)

[Sheldon]

Thumbelina is hot.

[Sheldon]

The designers from LOTR copied Stryfe's helmut and gave it to Sauron!
http://www.tolkiengathering.com/GOTF2003/images/scrapbook-pics/sauron.JPG

[Flight]

The designers from LOTR copied Stryfe's helmut and gave it to Sauron! If I were Sauron, I'd watch out for deadly 70's lightshades instead of posing for photographs

[Kid Seven]

I love Stryfe's dialogue up there:
"Millions cry in agony every day! But that screaming is unto silence...when compared...to the lonely cries...of an abadoned child!"

I'm gonna start using dialogue like that more in my life.

"This weather is perfect! It is unto heaven!"

[Blackcat]

What is your favorite MLF moment?

When Strobe blinded Rogue

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[hbkabdul]

why does MLF look like MILF? anyway did Stryfe ever take over Latveria? when and how did that happen if it did.

[cable guy]

Stryfe is Awesome!

Hopefully he comes back soon.

[mattbib]

Ugh. I hated Stryfe and hope he never comes back. The evil twin/clone thing is sooooooo tired...even in X-lore.

As for the MLF the only few who were ever fleshed out that I liked were Tempo, Forearm (who's now dead), and Reaper (during Malibu's Exiles series; though he, along with Wildside, are both pretty much braindead since the recent Weapon X series).

[Alan2099]

Forearm showed back up in the latest X-force series.

Still, the MLF works better as canon fodder than characters.

[Flight]

How does Stryfe get into that costume?

[fishtaco]

Yeah, Forearm showed up in the recent toilet paper material X-Force mini. This is yet another perfect example of Rob Liefeld being Rob Liefeld, and Mike Marts not doing his job by fixing the mistake. It's a total catastrophe.

Cool members of the MLF: Stryfe, Forearm, Reignfire, Zero, Reaper, Sumo, Kamikaze, Strobe, Tempo, Dragoness, Feral, Moonstar, Rusty, Sunspot, Skids, and Selby 9even though he only appeared in one issue).

[DDM]

How does Stryfe get into that costume?

The zippers from the future of course...

[Ant-Man]

How does Stryfe get into that costume?

He must telikinetically form his armor around himself.

[mattbib]

Forearm showed back up in the latest X-force series.Oh brother. Apparently so did Sumo and Zero, who were also both dead.

[LoneWolf21]

Oh brother. Apparently so did Sumo and Zero, who were also both dead.


Zero is partway explainable, since it was a robot. Could have been a different model. Hell wasn't that whole MLF from an alternature future anyway?

[mattbib]

Hell wasn't that whole MLF from an alternature future anyway?Not that I recall.

[Ryan K]

Stryfe (Domino) was from an alternate future in the X-Force mini but I don't recall them saying the MLF members were.

Anyway I like the idea of the MLF more than the execution. I did enjoy some of the members, Dragoness was cool.

I hate Stryfe. Always.

[fishtaco]

Oh brother. Apparently so did Sumo and Zero, who were also both dead.Sumo didnt show up. Since Zero is a robot, Im sure there are more than one. The one that died is the one that Stryfe got when he was a child (freaky image). Stryfe gave Martynec (the man behind the Camp Verde massacre) a Zero unit as a gift. It was seen in X-Force # 73.

[Nyssane]

Cool members of the MLF: Stryfe, Forearm, Reignfire, Zero, Reaper, Sumo, Kamikaze, Strobe, Tempo, Dragoness, Feral, Moonstar, Rusty, Sunspot, Skids, and Selby 9even though he only appeared in one issue).

*scratches head* Thumbelina's not on that list...

Blasphemy!

I *liked* Thumbelina and how she was the underdog of the MLF.

[mattbib]

Sumo didnt show up.No? Cool. I was going by UXM.net's summary of X-Force #6:
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2319

[Sheldon]

Thumbelina and Big Bertha need to have an epic battle.

And DDM's comment about zippers from the future is a classic.

[fishtaco]

[QUOTE=fishtaco]Sumo didnt show up.QUOTE]No? Cool. I was going by UXM.net's summary of X-Force #6:
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2319I occasionaly notice on the issue summaries that they leave out a character or they add in a character that wasnt really there. ugh that mini was awful. Cannonball joined the MLF. ugh

[Sheldon]

Cannonball is a great fit for the MLF! It will give him the edge he needs to be a true player in the 616 for years!

[mattbib]

Cannonball is a great fit for the MLF! It will give him the edge he needs to be a true player in the 616 for years!Yeah, THAT would bring Sam into the spotlight in ways that being an X-Man never could have.

[Blackcat]

But who of the MLF is still up and walking around. Locus has been killed by Sabretooth. Reaper and Wildside are 'put out'by Cable. Kamikaze was killed by Archangel. Stryfe is dead as far as I know. And did Fourarm die or not?

So not many are still around I guess.

What happened to Thumbulina and Strobe and the other members by the way ??

[Sheldon]

In Rob Liefelds mind they are all still up and walking around.

[Alan2099]

In Rob Liefelds mind they are all still up and walking around.
In Rob's mind people's shoulders are five feet wide, their feet are three inches wide, and women have larger bulges in their pants than men do.

Liefeld's mind is a scary scary place.

[nubly]

when did sabretooth kill locus? the only characters that are alive and didnt show up in the x-force mini are strobe, tempo, dreagoness and feral. i doubt that skids, moonstar, jade dragon, collective man or nuwa will rejoin the MLF. and those crappy MLF characters from the punisher series do not belong with the MLF

[mattbib]

when did sabretooth kill locus? the only characters that are alive and didnt show up in the x-force mini are strobe, tempo, dreagoness and feral.Dragoness did show up in X-Force #5. She's shown in a group shot on page 16.

[mattbib]

[QUOTE=mattbib]I occasionaly notice on the issue summaries that they leave out a character or they add in a character that wasnt really there. ugh that mini was awful. Cannonball joined the MLF. ughJust pulled the issue and you're wrong. Someone who could only be Sumo (or the Blob) is seen on page 8, standing behind Stryfe and Thumbellina.

[Blackcat]

when did sabretooth kill locus? the

Sabretooth killed Locus in the Weapon X serie (or do I say Weapon X book? what'sa the difference?) Weapon X wanted Locus on their programm, but when the agents arrived, she had been killed by Sabretooth, who was trying to kill all mutants Weapon X wanted on their program, as a revence for mindcontrolling him by Mesmero. You couldn't see the fight between Locus and Sabretooth itself but we saw her dead body. :(

[Haunt]

seeing all the love for the Nasty Boys, i thought i'd unearth this Mutant Liberation Front thread. afterall, they were just as lovable. heck, some of them were even homolicious (i'm looking at you Thumbelina). so who were your favorite M.L.F'ers and your fondest memories of them?



my two favorites were Wildside (Richard Gill) and Reaper (Pantu Hurageb). i vividly remember picking up the X-force comic and being overjoyed to learn their real names for the first time. it's too bad that Reignfire story went south. i wanted to learn more about the entire team. Wildside supposedly had a good upbringing. imagine that. and Reaper hates humidity. weird that sometimes he's entirely white but appeared flesh-coloured in that Exiles book.

[Erik B]

im not a big xmen fan. too much going on, the need to know 8 million years worth of nonsense. to many writer changes. so yeah im out of the loop.
Im familar with The Onlsaught Saga, the Fatal Attractions saga, a bit of the Bloodlines saga, the end game saga when apocalypse infect baby cable and all of the grant morrison era. I collected uncanny and xtreme xmen from 2001-2004 and then dropped it and i am currently only buying astonishing and dropping that after. question is was Xcutioners song worth it? or should i skip it since i really dislike xmen and dig spidey more?

[thik_3rd]

Cool members of the MLF: Stryfe, Forearm, Reignfire, Zero, Reaper, Sumo, Kamikaze, Strobe, Tempo, Dragoness, Feral, Moonstar, Rusty, Sunspot, Skids, and Selby 9even though he only appeared in one issue).
is this list ordered or just the random listing of the ones you like?

[brundlefly]

I love Stryfe's dialogue up there:
"Millions cry in agony every day! But that screaming is unto silence...when compared...to the lonely cries...of an abadoned child!"

I'm gonna start using dialogue like that more in my life.

"This weather is perfect! It is unto heaven!"

Heh, I loved Stryfe's dialogue. Nobody could chew scenery like that guy. He should have spent his spare time giving overwrought stage interpretations of Shakespeare's works when he wasn't trying to kill Apocalypse or various members of the Summers family.

I've said before that Stryfe had legs as a villain when all clues pointed to him being Cyke and Maddie's son, but once he was revealed as nothing but a clone, his days were numbered. Now it's hard to remember whether or not he's currently alive or dead or what he even did the last time he appeared, so it's best he just remain in character limbo. But the MLF could work as the power base for either a new villain or an old villain who has been out of the picture for a while.

[Niro]

one of the best stories i ever read involving stryfe was the "what if..." series where the title was "what if stryfe killed the x-men".

It was great

[Nyssane]

Everyone knows the only cool member of the MLF is Thumbelina.

[Sheldon]

Nice work Haunt! I forgot about this gem of a thread! We need to bask in the glory of the MLF!

I wish that David Hine had a fixation on the MLF so that Civil War X-men would be about them and not that tentacle belly guy.

[Sheldon]

Everyone knows the only cool member of the MLF is Thumbelina.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/schoo/thumb.jpg

Indeed I can't believe that Slott hasn't had her throw down with Big Bertha yet.

[PanzerMega]

Reaper losing limbs was hilarious.

As lame as they look now in retrospect, I dug the MLF back in the day. I wonder how long it took for the creators to name those villains. Sumo? Kamizake? Forearm? Awful!

[Alan2099]

Heh, I loved Stryfe's dialogue. Nobody could chew scenery like that guy. He should have spent his spare time giving overwrought stage interpretations of Shakespeare's works when he wasn't trying to kill Apocalypse or various members of the Summers family.

I've said before that Stryfe had legs as a villain when all clues pointed to him being Cyke and Maddie's son, but once he was revealed as nothing but a clone, his days were numbered. Now it's hard to remember whether or not he's currently alive or dead or what he even did the last time he appeared, so it's best he just remain in character limbo. But the MLF could work as the power base for either a new villain or an old villain who has been out of the picture for a while.
last I remember, the real Stryfe was trapped in hell and being tortured.

So I figure it's only a matter of time before Mephisto or Sattnish or somebody decides he'd make a good lackey. ... or at leas that's what would happen if the X-characters weren't so seperated from the rest of the marvel Universe.

[brundlefly]

last I remember, the real Stryfe was trapped in hell and being tortured.

So I figure it's only a matter of time before Mephisto or Sattnish or somebody decides he'd make a good lackey. ... or at leas that's what would happen if the X-characters weren't so seperated from the rest of the marvel Universe.

Since we're on "what's Stryfe up to these days," I wiki'd him just for the hell of it and he supposedly got out of hell, then pulled a Hal Jordan-in-DC's Final Night-style 'heroic sacrifice' of some kind in a Bishop/Gambit miniseries and is once more dead (and presumably not in hell this time). That noble sacrifice stuff sounds very out of character for the self-proclaimed "Chaos Bringer" and that mini must have gone under my radar. Did anyone read the Bishop/Gambit series in question? Was it any good or just another forgettable X-spinoff?

[rilokyle]

I always really liked Skids and Rusty.

I wonder what Skids is up to now? We saw her during "Blood of Apocalypse" but nothing since. She needs to join an x-team pronto.

[thik_3rd]

yeah, because 3 months is too long to be in limbo for a character that has appeared in a few odd dozen issues in the past 2 decades.

[Nyssane]

yeah, because 3 months is too long to be in limbo for a character that has appeared in a few odd dozen issues in the past 2 decades.

Meeeow, someone's feeling catty.

[Haunt]

Reaper losing limbs was hilarious.

As lame as they look now in retrospect, I dug the MLF back in the day. I wonder how long it took for the creators to name those villains. Sumo? Kamizake? Forearm? Awful!

well those first two were immediately killed. and, realistically, what else could you name Forearm? can't call him Barbarous.


Nice work Haunt! I forgot about this gem of a thread! We need to bask in the glory of the MLF!

I wish that David Hine had a fixation on the MLF so that Civil War X-men would be about them and not that tentacle belly guy.

you never know. he might just make Johnny Dee one of the Mutant Liberation Front.

[Sheldon]

X-men Civil War would have been the perfect avenue for the MLF. Why use X-force to liberate the 198, when the MLF have liberate in their name!

[Alan2099]

Since we're on "what's Stryfe up to these days," I wiki'd him just for the hell of it and he supposedly got out of hell, then pulled a Hal Jordan-in-DC's Final Night-style 'heroic sacrifice' of some kind in a Bishop/Gambit miniseries and is once more dead (and presumably not in hell this time). That noble sacrifice stuff sounds very out of character for the self-proclaimed "Chaos Bringer" and that mini must have gone under my radar. Did anyone read the Bishop/Gambit series in question? Was it any good or just another forgettable X-spinoff?
I didn't even know there was a Bishop/Gambit team-up book.

I have to agree with that being out of character though. Sinister would more likely sacrfice themselves than Stryfe would. Stryfe was raised evil and has been that way his entire life.

[rilokyle]

yeah, because 3 months is too long to be in limbo for a character that has appeared in a few odd dozen issues in the past 2 decades.
WOAH. Keep the claws in please.

And she played such a minor role in that arc that it barely did her justice. She was a popular character back in the 80s when she was with X-Factor, and then later with the New Mutants.

[Butch Mapa]

Hmmm, how many of the MLFers still have their powers post Decimation?

Personally, I was a fan of Reaper (more for his looks), Wildside (even though he looked like a mess), Dragoness, Zero, and maybe Sumo. Tempo had such a lame costume.

Stryfe could have been cool. But all clones have a coolnes cap.

Wasn't the Bishop/Gambit mini done by Loeb/Sale?

[Butch Mapa]

double post

[Butch Mapa]

triple post-- whoops

[d newton]

3 favourite MLF fights:
1 - Havok & Psylocke vs Reaper.
2 - Rogue (with some help from Polaris) vs Dragonness.
3 - Iceman vs Thumbelina & Slab.
[Guess which X trade I just bought?] :D

[Zomling]

Since we're on "what's Stryfe up to these days," I wiki'd him just for the hell of it and he supposedly got out of hell, then pulled a Hal Jordan-in-DC's Final Night-style 'heroic sacrifice' of some kind in a Bishop/Gambit miniseries and is once more dead (and presumably not in hell this time). That noble sacrifice stuff sounds very out of character for the self-proclaimed "Chaos Bringer" and that mini must have gone under my radar. Did anyone read the Bishop/Gambit series in question? Was it any good or just another forgettable X-spinoff?

I read it, it wasn't bad. I quite enjoyed the redemptive aspect of Strfe's character.

Having said that I hope he returns to the X-books in the future. It is possible that something may be happening in recent issues of X-Force, with Warpath encountering the great bear which seems to be manipulate by someone (Stryfe?). Let's hope so. If Cyber can return from the dead by possessing someone else's body then so could Stryfe.

[MartinRedmond]

They should make some multiplayer, sprite based, sidescrolling X-Men game including a gazzillion characters where you get to beat up the MLF.

[DrNoh]

My favourite moment was in an X-Factor when X-Factor had hold of Stryfe's legs, The MLF had hold of his head and they were playing Tug of War with him through one of Zero's portals.Dude, I second that!! It's one of the most funny events in comics to me. That was so hilarious and awesome!!

I also like the scene with Reaper vs. Quicksilver and Gambit. And any MLF events Peter David wrote, like when Slab met up with Thumbelina.

IMO, the Stryfe portrayed in SONS OF THE ATOM should not have been the same character. He certainly didn't act like it. Awesome as he is, Stryfe should stay dead.

-- DN

[Vanish]

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp139/maleficent_grl/thumbelinaroxyo.jpg

You wish you was so fly.

Detroit. Heheheh I love that Lil' Lady.

[Mr. Cakes]

Thumbelina is the best member of the MLF ever.

When I asked Chris Yost if he would ever use her, since she's the only chunky woman in X-History, he said:

"Why are you disrespecting Fat Karma?"

[Vanish]

Thumbelina is the best member of the MLF ever.

When I asked Chris Yost if he would ever use her, since she's the only chunky woman in X-History, he said:

"Why are you disrespecting Fat Karma?"

PONG!

Fat Karma lost the weight, though!

Thumbelina has an inactive thyroid gland, an epidemic plaguing many women in America and a major contributer to the prevalence of obesity.

I think Thumby won that and you can tell that to this Christopher of yours!

[DrNoh]

Overdue thanks to Vanish for the memories. That scene was hilarious.

Gatecrasher from EXCALIBUR also certainly broke many stereotypes of comic book women, and she was far from skinny.

Stryfe is one of the few characters I know of who have committed so many atrocities they can't actually be shown in comics.

[MartinRedmond]

I like the MLF better than Stryfe. No idea why they don't use them more. It was nice having mutants, who were obviously wrong, that had a conflicting view to the X-Men. :confused:

[YoungG03]

say what ya say...i liked the legacy virus. It added suspension and real fear to the mutants of Marvel. I wish it was still around but being controlled like HIV or something...

[AdamYJ]

say what ya say...i liked the legacy virus. It added suspension and real fear to the mutants of Marvel. I wish it was still around but being controlled like HIV or something...

The thing that people don't get is that the Legacy Virus wasn't supposed to be a subplot. It was supposed to be an addition to the status quo. There was no intention of curing it. It was devised as a parallel to AIDS or HIV. Every time anyone asked Scott Lobdell when the writers would have the Legacy Virus cured, he'd answer by asking "When will AIDS be cured?"

As for the MLF, I think they're a pretty good group. They were kind of X-Force's opposite number. It's true they didn't really do much in the way of evil acts, but the same can be said of the Brotherhood (the mutant terrorist group whose sole claim to fame is that they almost killed a Senator . . . twice :tongue: ).

[SayOcean]

The thing that people don't get is that the Legacy Virus wasn't supposed to be a subplot. It was supposed to be an addition to the status quo. There was no intention of curing it. It was devised as a parallel to AIDS or HIV. Every time anyone asked Scott Lobdell when the writers would have the Legacy Virus cured, he'd answer by asking "When will AIDS be cured?"

As for the MLF, I think they're a pretty good group. They were kind of X-Force's opposite number. It's true they didn't really do much in the way of evil acts, but the same can be said of the Brotherhood (the mutant terrorist group whose sole claim to fame is that they almost killed a Senator . . . twice :tongue: ).yeah i kinda liked the AIds mirror of the legacy virus....but it was the 90s AIDS was cool....now its all bout cancer

[Raker616]

Stryfe is a great character i'm glad that he's coming back, hopefully they can make him a legit threat again after his character was basically ruined after the clone fiasco (What is it with Marvel and clones btw?). I'm 50/50 on the MLF, they had a couple of cool members but overall I wasn't that impressed with them or their powers.

[rwsmith]

Thumbelina has an inactive thyroid gland, an epidemic plaguing many women in America and a major contributer to the prevalence of obesity.

And here I thought the major contributors were eating junk foods and laziness/inactivity. :wink:

[XaviersMisprint]

I love the MLF, bring them back!

Reaper, Wildside, Dragoness, Forearm, Thumbelina, Zero, Tempo, Strobe... they were all cool. Don't know how I feel about Locus, Kamikaze, Slab, Sumo, Stryfe, Reignfire, or Feral, though...

A lot of those characters are still around! Reaper, Wildside are around but are not powered, as are Thumbelina and Forearm I think...

Tempo and Dragoness are still powered, and Zero was an android. I believe there could still be potential for an MLF!

[Mr. Cakes]

I love the MLF, bring them back!

Reaper, Wildside, Dragoness, Forearm, Thumbelina, Zero, Tempo, Strobe... they were all cool. Don't know how I feel about Locus, Kamikaze, Slab, Sumo, Stryfe, Reignfire, or Feral, though...

A lot of those characters are still around! Reaper, Wildside are around but are not powered, as are Thumbelina and Forearm I think...

Tempo and Dragoness are still powered, and Zero was an android. I believe there could still be potential for an MLF!

Reaper's still around, he got repowered in X-Factor.

Wildside and Strobe are depowered. Forearm may have been depowered, if that's the one they meant on the New Avengers list (though he was killed by Anaconda in the Bloodsport tourney).

Thumbelina's not confirmed powered or depowered.

[YoungG03]

The thing that people don't get is that the Legacy Virus wasn't supposed to be a subplot. It was supposed to be an addition to the status quo. There was no intention of curing it. It was devised as a parallel to AIDS or HIV. Every time anyone asked Scott Lobdell when the writers would have the Legacy Virus cured, he'd answer by asking "When will AIDS be cured?"

As for the MLF, I think they're a pretty good group. They were kind of X-Force's opposite number. It's true they didn't really do much in the way of evil acts, but the same can be said of the Brotherhood (the mutant terrorist group whose sole claim to fame is that they almost killed a Senator . . . twice :tongue: ).


The Brotherhood had Magneto in the beginning though. Maybe they could be bought back. I can see that but with serious villians unlike Toad and Blob. What happen to Toad anyway? Maybe like the Hellfire Club.
MLF was just sorry and didnt even fit Stryfe. I geuss they were just cannon fodder.
Back to Legacy. It should be stlill here. Y did people have a prob wit it anyway? Plot device?