Is One Piece actually any good?

[twilight]

One Piece is starting sometime next month and i was wondering wether i should make any effort to watch it?

Is it any good?

Iv'e heard a lot about it but also a lot of very different oppinions

[CDTM]

One Piece is starting sometime next month and i was wondering wether i should make any effort to watch it?

Is it any good?

Iv'e heard a lot about it but also a lot of very different oppinions

From the little I've seen, it's basically one of any dozen dopey animes.. Best enjoyed if you don't mind turning your brain off and just watching the spectacle.

But see it for yourself and judge, as your taste may vary.

I can't figure out why they're putting something that was on Fox Kids down on a near midnight timeline now.. That's usually the adult oriented times.

[G_Man]

From the little I've seen, it's basically one of any dozen dopey animes.. Best enjoyed if you don't mind turning your brain off and just watching the spectacle.

But see it for yourself and judge, as your taste may vary.

I can't figure out why they're putting something that was on Fox Kids down on a near midnight timeline now.. That's usually the adult oriented times.

It's because despite the kidde artwork, One Piece can be surprisingly bloody in it's fight scenes and frequently deals with the issue of death.

Ex. One of the characters literally watched her adopted mom get blown away (bullet to the head) when she was just a kid, and then she was forced to spend years working for the guy who did it.

[Guts/Batman]

The manga is. The dub is not.

I'd love to see the original japanese version though.

[Metaphysician]

Impression I've gotten is, regardless of whether you like the manga or not, the dubbed anime on TV is crap.

[mdf2]

The manga is. The dub is not.

I'd love to see the original japanese version though.

The dub.

I nearly DIED when I heard Sanji start talking in his 'NOO YAWK' accent.

To a certain extent, people can't help the way they speak, but...

Sanji is all about class. It's a prejudice, I know, but an accent like that doesn't fit his image, at least for me.

And assuming he DID speak like that, you'd think he'd try to get rid of it, or at least try to model his speech on the people he 'did' consider classy.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Nami is hot.

Elasticboy is fun but he needs his medicine.

I´ll never understand the hoopla about Zoro, though; the guy´s not even a bishie and has every otaku and their pet pikachu pillow eating in his palms.

Fights take a bit too long to wrap up, which was the main reason why I dropped DBZ altogether.

[Guts/Batman]

Nami is hot.

Elasticboy is fun but he needs his medicine.

I´ll never understand the hoopla about Zoro, though; the guy´s not even a bishie and has every otaku and their pet pikachu pillow eating in his palms.

Fights take a bit too long to wrap up, which was the main reason why I dropped DBZ altogether.


I knida wonder what would happen if they made episodes 25-27 minutes long instead of 22.

Although i agree with you. Fights take too long.

[ChaosBurnFlame]

Nami is hot.

Elasticboy is fun but he needs his medicine.

I´ll never understand the hoopla about Zoro, though; the guy´s not even a bishie and has every otaku and their pet pikachu pillow eating in his palms.

Fights take a bit too long to wrap up, which was the main reason why I dropped DBZ altogether.

The thing about Zoro is he's boring.

He's sorta like Plank, except not cool.

[Kamen Rider Luffy]

I don't see why some people dislike Zoro I Mean sure he can be a little bit overpowered at times but besides that he is crucial in the story. And on the Manga and anime its become one of my most lovable ones just avoid the filler arcs though especially the long one kaizoku has to do right now >< ,and avoid the dub if you can.

[ChaosBurnFlame]

I don't see why some people dislike Zoro I Mean sure he can be a little bit overpowered at times but besides that he is crucial in the story. And on the Manga and anime its become one of my most lovable ones just avoid the filler arcs though especially the long one kaizoku has to do right now >< ,and avoid the dub if you can.
Its because there's two types of badassness:

Real

and Manufactured.

Real Badassness needs no advertising, it just is. Much like Animated Aquaman, he was written as King of Atlantis, not "Lets make him as badass as we can squeeze into the story!". Its more like "How can we give him a hook without it SUCKING like in the comics?"

Or Jim Harper, the Golden Guardian. He shouted with clenched fists for Cyborg Superman to get back and face him. He has no way to stop him, but he's still badass.


Zoro however falls into "Manufactured" badassness.

Which really isn't a badassness but a writer tyring to saying "I WANT you to think this guy's badass". Its like 90's Wolverine.

Lets examine. 20 minutes before Zoro shows up, we 'hear' about how Badass he's supposed to be. Then they show him strapped to a cross, without drinking or eating for 3 weeks.

The whole introduction was manufactured to make Zoro look as badass as possible.

It was like Wolverine Vs Lobo.

100% manufactured.

EDIT: I mean, if there was an anime character capable of casting the Superstar spell from Buffy, Zoro's the guy.

[SuperSaiyaMan12]

Its because there's two types of badassness:

Real

and Manufactured.

Real Badassness needs no advertising, it just is. Much like Animated Aquaman, he was written as King of Atlantis, not "Lets make him as badass as we can squeeze into the story!". Its more like "How can we give him a hook without it SUCKING like in the comics?"

Or Jim Harper, the Golden Guardian. He shouted with clenched fists for Cyborg Superman to get back and face him. He has no way to stop him, but he's still badass.


Zoro however falls into "Manufactured" badassness.

Which really isn't a badassness but a writer tyring to saying "I WANT you to think this guy's badass". Its like 90's Wolverine.

Lets examine. 20 minutes before Zoro shows up, we 'hear' about how Badass he's supposed to be. Then they show him strapped to a cross, without drinking or eating for 3 weeks.

The whole introduction was manufactured to make Zoro look as badass as possible.

It was like Wolverine Vs Lobo.

100% manufactured.

EDIT: I mean, if there was an anime character capable of casting the Superstar spell from Buffy, Zoro's the guy.
Zoro is a guy who regulary fought incredibly tough foes, developed his own fighting style, and was a pirate hunter who could go three days without food. He kind of sounds like Saito, and you like him don't you Chaos?

[ChaosBurnFlame]

Zoro is a guy who regulary fought incredibly tough foes, developed his own fighting style, and was a pirate hunter who could go three days without food. He kind of sounds like Saito, and you like him don't you Chaos?
Saito didn't develop his own fighting style, hunt pirates, or go thre days without food.
Saito was based off a real guy that escaped assasinations and 3 wars without dying and later died of an ulcer in his 80's while working as a security guard.

He basically was right in the front of 3 wars, was prominent in each, was never killed, and died a reliatvely peaceful life 40 years afterwards.

Saito was in at least 9 other manga series and 12 different historic movies, being portrayed as a romantic, a hero, a villian, etc.

He's basically Davy Crockett to the Japanese.

Zoro however is totally ficticious.

20 minutes before showing up, they give him so mcuh "he's a badass" press, its almost like The Immortal from that ep of Angel.

And then creates his own fighting styles, Warning Warning, Mary Sue off the Port Bow!

Go lengths without food and water, WARNING WARNING< SUPERSTAR SPELL IN EFFECT!

[G_Man]

Basically, Zoro is the anime equivalent of Wolverine. And really, they talked about how evil he was, and how inhuman, not how cool. He has alot of incredible feats for someone whose supposedly human. Though, to be fair, alot of the people in that series have ludicrous feats under their belt.

True, most have Devil Fruit powers as an excuse, but there are a few supposedly normal humans with high-end feats under their belt. Mr. 4 and his 4-ton bat come to mind. As does Ussopp surviving a hit to the head from said bat, despite them stating it broke his skull.

Some members of CP9 are insanely powerful, even though only two of them have Devil Fruit powers. Hell, they schooled Zoro. And it's not like he wins his fights with ease. He often ends his battles collapsing in a heap after barely pulling a win through sheer willpower or figuring out a new technique.

He can be a little bland, but he has some moments of characterization. He's just a little too serious for his own good, and it makes him come off as very stiff.

[Rod G]

I enjoy watching One Piece.The edits don't bug me at all.
The version on US television is as close to the original as Standards and Practices will allow it to be.

So don't let any whiny naysayers tell you otherwise.This isone wacky yet cool show.

[Nyssane]

Yes, you should watch One Piece. It doesn't get real good until the Arlong arc, though. There's some very serious moments, and a lot of the fight scenes are very gruesome. But it has the perfect blend of comedy, action, and drama. I'd recommend buying dual-language DVDs though when they're released (they're bound to come out sometime soon), so you could see the original Japanese version. If the one coming on the new Toonami is the one from Fox Box, then yeah, don't watch it. n.n It was an absolute catastrophe of anime. But whatev.

[The Real Nemo]

I've heard that there are less edits in the Cartoon Network version than there were in the Fox version...

[Captain Sarcasm]

Its because there's two types of badassness:

Real

and Manufactured.

Real Badassness needs no advertising, it just is. Much like Animated Aquaman, he was written as King of Atlantis, not "Lets make him as badass as we can squeeze into the story!". Its more like "How can we give him a hook without it SUCKING like in the comics?"

Or Jim Harper, the Golden Guardian. He shouted with clenched fists for Cyborg Superman to get back and face him. He has no way to stop him, but he's still badass.


Zoro however falls into "Manufactured" badassness.

Which really isn't a badassness but a writer tyring to saying "I WANT you to think this guy's badass". Its like 90's Wolverine.

Lets examine. 20 minutes before Zoro shows up, we 'hear' about how Badass he's supposed to be. Then they show him strapped to a cross, without drinking or eating for 3 weeks.

The whole introduction was manufactured to make Zoro look as badass as possible.

It was like Wolverine Vs Lobo.

100% manufactured.

EDIT: I mean, if there was an anime character capable of casting the Superstar spell from Buffy, Zoro's the guy.

You've seen one episode. ONE EPISODE. And it was *dubbed* by the worst dubbing studio on the face of the earth.

I've read every issue of the original manga translated directly from the original japanese and entierely uneditied.

My Experience >>>>> Your Experience = Shut the hell up.

[Cephus]

I enjoy watching One Piece.The edits don't bug me at all.
The version on US television is as close to the original as Standards and Practices will allow it to be.

So don't let any whiny naysayers tell you otherwise.This isone wacky yet cool show.

Heck, the only thing I'm tired of is listening to you defend this Standards and Practices crap.

Editting is editting and it is bad, 100% of the time. If you can't do it right, don't do it at all.

[lonewolf23k]

You've seen one episode. ONE EPISODE. And it was *dubbed* by the worst dubbing studio on the face of the earth.

I've read every issue of the original manga translated directly from the original japanese and entierely uneditied.

My Experience >>>>> Your Experience = Shut the hell up.


Word. Plus, to expand on what G-Man mentionned, he's Anime's answer to Wolverine: His whole personality doesn't go beyond "Laconic Ass-Kicking Brooding Loner Bit". Although there's a lot more depth to the guy, considering his background.

I myself was nearly moved to tears when I discovered his past, where his best friend, with whom he'd practically made a "one day we'll see which one of us is the best swordsperson" pact, died the day after from a stupid accident, leaving him to push himself to become the world's greatest swordsman, with the depressing thought "I'll never know if I could've been better then her now" constantly running through his mind.

Cripes, it's more "to-the-point" characterisation then Logan got in his whole "Origin" mini-series, and it was contained inside a single flashback.

[Captain Sarcasm]

Zoro however is totally ficticious.

20 minutes before showing up, they give him so mcuh "he's a badass" press, its almost like The Immortal from that ep of Angel.

And then creates his own fighting styles, Warning Warning, Mary Sue off the Port Bow!

Go lengths without food and water, WARNING WARNING< SUPERSTAR SPELL IN EFFECT!

Okay, first off, what the hell is this 'Superstar spell' thing?

Second, there's nothing Mary-Sueish about his fighting style. It's an actual unique creation unlike anything that had been seriously considered, ever, AFAIK.

Thirldly, how is going for a month without food or water, voluntarily, all to save a young girl he barely knows *not* badass? Most people would die within days, and Zolo had been there for weeks with no signs of starvation or dehydration. If that's not badass, I'd like to see you do the same.

Also, that first thing? That's the thing that pros, guys that write things like TV shows and novels and comics call 'foreshadowing.' Say it with me - for-sha-doh-ing.

[lonewolf23k]

Thirldly, how is going for a month without food or water, voluntarily, all to save a young girl he barely knows *not* badass? Most people would die within days, and Zolo had been there for weeks with no signs of starvation or dehydration. If that's not badass, I'd like to see you do the same.

I think it's safe to say that, once again, CBF thinks that his subjective opinion is somehow reflective of an absolute truth of the cosmos, and that he's trying to "educate us" about it...

In other words, he's blowing hot air, and his statements should be disregarded...

[Captain Sarcasm]

I think it's safe to say that, once again, CBF thinks that his subjective opinion is somehow reflective of an absolute truth of the cosmos, and that he's trying to "educate us" about it...

In other words, he's blowing hot air, and his statements should be disregarded...

Yeah, but somebody's gotta be the honesty police about this.

[Azangel]

My Experience >>>>> Your Experience = Shut the hell up.


Personal insults not appreciated... you could have done without this, CS.

[SuperSaiyaMan12]

Personal insults not appreciated... you could have done without this, CS.
I was tempted to say "tro**" to CBF, but I held my hand. I just got a little busy and forgot to press the mod button. And Azangel, CS did have a point, but he could have said it a little nicer.

I hope I didn't overstep any boundries man. Just trying to give some constructive critism.

[Azangel]

:) You're learning!

And I'm checking on a couple things at the moment... no worries!

[SuperSaiyaMan12]

:) You're learning!

And I'm checking on a couple things at the moment... no worries!
I didn't fall the the dark side :cool: ;) by saying "tro**"

[Captain Sarcasm]

Personal insults not appreciated... you could have done without this, CS.

Well, I intended it as more of a comment on the validity his opinions than him personally, but you and SSM are both right...I could have said that in a much nicer way.

CBF, I'm sorry for insulting you and speaking to you so rudely. I hold nothing against you personally, and if you are still willing to speak to me on AIM, I'd like to apologize to you there as well, in person.

Again, I apologize for my conduct, which I now realize is more impolite than I had originally thought.

[Azangel]

Thank you, CS.

[Captain Sarcasm]

Thank you, CS.

You're welcome.

[Kraah]

Personal insults not appreciated... you could have done without this, CS.
Personally, I don't think Sarc has anything to apologize for at all. If you do a search through CBF's posts regarding Zoro, OP, or more or less anything, you'll see that Sarc's posts are not even mildly insulting compared to his, and that his comments are perfectly in line, when you consider that CBF continues to troll on about a topic he admits he knows nothing about, simply because he wants to piss off people. Sarc just tried to educate him abit, instead of ignoring him like most others do, since it's like trying to teach math to a brick wall.

Don't demean yourself like this Sarc, you have nothing to apologize for. You're not the one getting mod warned out of threads all the time.

[Azangel]

Kraah, CBF has been warned on the Rumbles board about posting about Zoro, this is the first time he's done it here. So it's going to stand for the moment, he simply gave his opinion. If CBF has never watched OP, it is an uneducated opinion, but people give uneducated opionions on these boards all the time... If he continues, it will be dealt with, alright?

On the other hand, telling someone directly to shut the hell up is just flat rude. Now CS has apologized, and you're telling him not to? Please. I can only go by what is said on this board... I don't have the energy or desire to read through 364,499 posts on the Rumbles board. Let's just drop this or I'll go back and start deleting posts.

That said...

Can we get back to the topic, PLEASE?

How's this...I've only seen one episode of One Piece, last night. What's it about? Why does this kid want to be a pirate? Why the hell does Zoro have green hair? Why is Luffy (?) a giant rubberband?

:)

[Kraah]

Kraah, CBF has been warned on the Rumbles board about posting about Zoro, this is the first time he's done it here. So it's going to stand for the moment, he simply gave his opinion. If CBF has never watched OP, it is an uneducated opinion, but people give uneducated opionions on these boards all the time... If he continues, it will be dealt with, alright?
Fine, I just thought it was common sense that when you got mod warned about trolling one place, you'd have sense enough not to start trolling again on the same forums elsewhere. But fine.

How's this...I've only seen one episode of One Piece, last night. What's it about? Why does this kid want to be a pirate? Why the hell does Zoro have green hair? Why is Luffy (?) a giant rubberband?

:)
It's about a crew of pirates, each with their own personal dream. Luffy wants to be the King of Pirates. The former King of Pirates was executed many years ago, and left his treasure, the One Piece, hidden somewhere in the Grand Line (a dangerous ocean). Zoro wants to be the greatest swordsman in the world, do to a promise he made to a friend when he was a child. Other pirates, with a dream of their own join the crew later in the series.

Green hair is apparently not a unnatural hair colour in OP.

Luffy ate the Rubber Devil Fruit, which made him into a Rubber man. A Devil Fruit grants the eater a specific power, depending upon what kind of devil fruit it is. The wielder can't swim in water though, and sinks like a stone.

[HynerianChef]

I enjoy watching One Piece.The edits don't bug me at all.
The version on US television is as close to the original as Standards and Practices will allow it to be.

So don't let any whiny naysayers tell you otherwise.This isone wacky yet cool show.
I kinda doubt Standards and Practices require badly chosen voice dub casting and, more importantly, replacing the entire musical score with terrible generic Saturday Morning cartoon music. :p Honestly, I've only seen part of a US dubbed episode and, if I hadn't seen the original first, I'd likely not give this show a chance.

How's this...I've only seen one episode of One Piece, last night. What's it about? Why does this kid want to be a pirate? Why the hell does Zoro have green hair? Why is Luffy (?) a giant rubberband?

To elaborate a bit on Kraah's answer, the world of One Piece is more or less divided into four oceans, North Blue, East Blue, South Blue and West Blue. The division between these oceans (aside from possible continents we haven't seen that I know of, since most of solid land we see seems to consist of islands, some big, some small) is made by two "lines". One is the Red Line, essentially a huge mountain range that runs across the world. The other is the Grand Line, a legendary and very dangerous ocean that is pretty much the focus point of all the weird stuff in the One Piece world. This ocean borders the others with the "Calm Belt", strips of ocean where there is never no wind or currents so that sailing is impossible, which of course only makes even getting to the Grand Line an even more daunting task.

Many years before the series begins there was a pirate, Gold Roger, so great that he pretty much conquered the ocean, nobody could stand in his way, etc. Hence why he was the Pirate King. 22 years before the start of the series he was executed and, smiling at death's door, announced he'd left his greatest treasure, "One Piece", hidden somewhere in the Grand Line and dared people to get it. This quite literally changed the world, as thousands of people went to the ocean in a quest to find this treasure and a new Age of Piracy began.

The main character, Monkey D. Luffy, is from an island that was used as a base of operation for about a year by the Red Hair Pirates, a pirate crew led by a charismatic captain called Shanks. It was during this time that Luffy accidentally ate one of Shanks's treasures, a Devil Fruit which gave him his powers. Luffy pretty much idolizes Shanks and wants to be a pirate, in fact more than that, his dream is to be the new Pirate King. The Red Hair Pirates eventually leave Luffy's island, but not before Shanks gives Luffy his lucky Straw Hat and tells him to one day become a great pirate and then find him to return the hat.

Advance a few years to the time when Luffy is 17 and sets out from his village to fulfill his dream of becoming the Pirate King. And that's basically the setup for One Piece. The adventures of Luffy and his crew. The first few adventures are basically gathering the initial crew that you've probably seen in the opening, though there are some members that join later on after they eventually reach the Grand Line. Like Kraah said, each member of the crew has his own dream. It's a pretty good and fun show, imho, generally pretty upbeat though, like others have said, despite its cartoony designs it can also be dramatic, emotional and pretty serious at times. To paraphrase something that Kraah once told me, if you like Naruto, then what that show is to ninjas, One Piece is to pirates.

[Scubbily]

If you like any type of adventure manga/anime you'll most likely like One Piece. Take me for an example, I had no idea what One Piece was until I picked the first book up at a bookstore and started reading it in the aisle. I was blown away. Not only was it good, but it was funny as well. Luffy is a really cool character.

[Captain Sarcasm]

Fine, I just thought it was common sense that when you got mod warned about trolling one place, you'd have sense enough not to start trolling again on the same forums elsewhere. But fine.


It's about a crew of pirates, each with their own personal dream. Luffy wants to be the King of Pirates. The former King of Pirates was executed many years ago, and left his treasure, the One Piece, hidden somewhere in the Grand Line (a dangerous ocean). Zoro wants to be the greatest swordsman in the world, do to a promise he made to a friend when he was a child. Other pirates, with a dream of their own join the crew later in the series.

Green hair is apparently not a unnatural hair colour in OP.

Luffy ate the Rubber Devil Fruit, which made him into a Rubber man. A Devil Fruit grants the eater a specific power, depending upon what kind of devil fruit it is. The wielder can't swim in water though, and sinks like a stone.

And for some reason, while the Manga explained all that essential background info in the very first chapter, the anime pushed it back to episode 4.

Nobody knows why.

[Guts/Batman]

And for some reason, while the Manga explained all that essential background info in the very first chapter, the anime pushed it back to episode 4.

Nobody knows why.

I didn't see the first episodes. Just the one's that Luffy kicked Don Krieg's ass. It did start from the beginning of the manga right? Also, filler episodes. Any of em there yet?

Kinda like Yu-Gi-Oh anime started at vol. 7 because the stories weren't all about dueling. I mean i kinda got tired of the stupid games. But the title "King of Games" wouldn't apply if he was the king of ALL games.

Btw, just got the new shonen jump. I already can't wait for the next one to come out. Obelisk vs. Diabound. It's on.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Zoro *did* create the Santou (three-sword) Ryuu, but before that he was a genius in the Nitou style of his home island. He only took up three swords when his best friend died and he got her father's permission to use her sword as well as his own two blades.

As for his personality, outside of training and combat he's a lazy guy that can usually be found sleeping through nearly anything on the deck of the Going Merry, whenever he isn't drinking insane amounts of liquor (though he can't keep up with Nami when she really gets going) getting into insult matches with Sanji, another uberhuman without any Devil Fruit powers. His reputation was as a powerful *bad guy* until Luffy really meets him, and although he was the strongest swordsman in the East Blue, at the start of the series he would have been mulch against most of the major enemies they met on the Grand Line, as the East Blue is the weakest of the four major oceans.

And while everything up to arguably Arlong is fluff, the backstories for each of the characters is at least moderately interesting. The Arlong, Tony Tony Chopper, and Baroque Works arcs were all amazingly well done with powerful backstories and intricate plots. The Sky Sea arc was only so-so though the end of it was great, the Foxy Pirates miniarc was fluff in a good way, and the current Shipwright arc is getting to be a Baroque Works level arc with great battle scenes, great backstories, impressive character interaction and a very intricate plot with some really unexpected plot twists, though I think that Zoro and Luffy got kinda depowered for parts of the arc...


EDIT: If anything, Zoro would probably be analogous to Sannosuke Sagara; they both entered the series as well known mercenaries with a bad reputation, they both love drinking (though Zoro a bit more than Sano), they both are fighting in memory of a lost friend, they both love a good fight, they both have a combination of pride and convictions that makes them get up no matter what they undertake, they both have a tendency to undergo epiphanies in the middle of life and death combat (Sanjuu no Kiwami and figuring out how to cut metal) and they both have some problems with navigation.

[Scubbily]

The plot is what I love. When I was growing up I loved pirate stories so this just appeals to my old favorites. But nowadays I like basically anything.

[The Drunkard Kid]

To be fair, the crew of the Going Merry aren't actually pirates, except when dealing with other pirates. I can't think of one time they ever stole from non-pirates anything that the owners wouldn't have given them ten times over... They'd more accurately be described as adventurers, I guess.

[Hiromi]

Eyup, for Pirates they have a distinct lack of acts of piracy under there belts. Maybe assaulting that Navy Officer at the end of the Arlong park saga.

[Scubbily]

I'm not that far into it so for the time being they are pirates to me. But Drunkard I'd have to agree, they do seem to be more like adventurers.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Eyup, for Pirates they have a distinct lack of acts of piracy under there belts. Maybe assaulting that Navy Officer at the end of the Arlong park saga.Yeah, but even that guy was more of a pirate than a Marine.

[Guts/Batman]

So far in the reading i haven't really come by a villain i like.

Buggy i'd say was my fav cuz the way he was beat was just plain stupidly simple.

The Claw guy i hated cuz he kept whinign about how he hated being a pirate.

I'm glad to see Don Krieg finally lose. About damn time.

I forgot Hawk-eye, i thought he was bad ass. He kicked Zoro's ass like he was a mere pest. That was great. I like him.

[HynerianChef]

Buggy is cool, but he's more of a joke villain than a serious evil threat. I mean, he's a bad guy, but nowhere near the level of truly evil and vicious guys like Arlong, who is coming up next on your list, and especially Crocodile much later on. Personally, I started to like Buggy a lot more when he had his own mini-adventures, rescuing his crew from canibal tribes and stuff like that.

And Mihawk, technically, isn't really a villain. He's a "rival". :p

[Guts/Batman]

Buggy is cool, but he's more of a joke villain than a serious evil threat. I mean, he's a bad guy, but nowhere near the level of truly evil and vicious guys like Arlong, who is coming up next on your list, and especially Crocodile much later on. Personally, I started to like Buggy a lot more when he had his own mini-adventures, rescuing his crew from canibal tribes and stuff like that.

And Mihawk, technically, isn't really a villain. He's a "rival". :p


Picky picky, but he did totaly kick Zoro's ass then just floated away after telling Don Krieg essentially he was a wuss, which is why i like him.

While i'm here i might as well say that Luffy is too much an optimist for me. ALmost makes me sick how optimistic he is.

[G_Man]

While i'm here i might as well say that Luffy is too much an optimist for me. ALmost makes me sick how optimistic he is.

He's not too optimistic. In the Alabasta-arc, we see that in his conversation with Crocodile. He too thought Vivi was hopelessly naive in trying to save everyone (and agreed with Croc on that point in front of Vivi no less), he only went along with it because she was his friend.

[Guts/Batman]

He's not too optimistic. In the Alabasta-arc, we see that in his conversation with Crocodile. He too thought Vivi was hopelessly naive in trying to save everyone (and agreed with Croc on that point in front of Vivi no less), he only went along with it because she was his friend.


Guess i haven't read that yet. How far are the graphic novels? Far beyond where they are at in Shonen Jump. (The main reason why i don't get One Piece in graphic novel form is becasuee i have enugh comics to get as is.)

[Jack Ketch]

To answer the original poster's question - yes One Piece is good. In fact it is often great. (Though I cannot speak for the dubbed, cut version of the anime.)

The manga is a truly great piece of shonen adventure, which due to having an author who has clear ideas of the story he wants to tell and a structure that allows him to tell many different stories is head and shoulders above it's nearest rivals and peers.

The anime has it's flaws. Namely whenever it drifts into original non-manga stories it tends to mess up badly. However I'd rather have this than having fights drawn out to fill time. Again the structure allows filler arcs to slot in a lot easier than other manga-to-anime adaptations can. The thing that makes up for the filler in the anime is the original Japanese voice cast, which is fantastic.

And onto the side topic of Zoro. The core aspect of Zoro is the death of Kuina, and more importantly the fact that her death prevented her realising that just because she was female didn't mean she couldn't be a great swordswoman. Zoro tends to treat everyone equally regardless. Hence Sanji's favouring of women tends to annoy him.