I Heart Havok

[eurazn]

I suppose the same could be said for if he had ended up with Psylocke? I guess I always read too much into the kiss they had together just before he stepped through the Siege Perilous.

I thought that moment between Alex and Betsy was actually a little too random (and you know I love me some Psylocke). There was no build-up or hints for anything leading down that road. It was almost as jarring as the Dazzler/Pete Wisdom hook-up.

[fortyseven]

Havok is pretty terrific. I miss him the most out of Polaris, Rachel and him.

[Aguja]

I thought that moment between Alex and Betsy was actually a little too random (and you know I love me some Psylocke). There was no build-up or hints for anything leading down that road. It was almost as jarring as the Dazzler/Pete Wisdom hook-up.

There was something there but it was pretty dark because he seemed kind of terrified of Betsy lol.

I miss the OutBack team. I wish they'd do a first class of that team.

[The M.E.]

There was something there but it was pretty dark because he seemed kind of terrified of Betsy lol.

I miss the OutBack team. I wish they'd do a first class of that team.

best idea evar!!!

[Tekkaman Blade]

The latest Havok sitings with a variant cover to Journey into Mystery and preview art from X-Men Legacy #250.

Less than a month to go until Havok finally makes his return!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1303326900.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/e0aabe7i8686/prv8686_pg7.jpg

[Havok83]

What a great cover. Cant wait to see Alex back in action

[Siena Blaze]

Havok always gets great covers and manages to look great doing his thang.

[Aguja]

Hopefully appearing in the new movie will translate into more panel time in the comics.

[BBeeryan]

I believe that you are referring to what transpired during 'Wild Kingdom' (which was my least favorite storyline of Milligan's run on X-Men).

This scene from Uncanny X-Men #248 is still Havok and Storm's most notable 'interaction' and a personal favorite.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/686748-havok16.jpg
I like this scan because the others cower in fear of when she gets up.

[eurazn]

There was something there but it was pretty dark because he seemed kind of terrified of Betsy lol.

I miss the OutBack team. I wish they'd do a first class of that team.

Well, she did suggest KILLING him at one point, so ... lol.


The latest Havok sitings with a variant cover to Journey into Mystery and preview art from X-Men Legacy #250.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1303326900.jpg

Less than a month to go until Havok finally makes his return!

His original costume will always be my favorite, but the way his current costume is depicted in this image is pretty awesome!

[Pixie_Solanas]

No one wants to see his blond plumage. Get that egg wisk back on your g-d head.

[Havok83]

Well, she did suggest KILLING him at one point, so ... lol.



His original costume will always be my favorite, but the way his current costume is depicted in this image is pretty awesome!
For me his best costume is his current one. I love how it draws upon many elements from his past looks while maintaining a very modern feel

[Tekkaman Blade]

With the numerous variant covers that Neal Adams has recently provided on upcoming books like Captain America, Daredevil, Punisher, and Ultimate Hawkeye it would be great if the X-Men office could get him to draw a variant X-Men cover with Havok in the original costume seeing as it was Adams who designed that particular costume.

Who knows how likely the opportunity will be again or what the chances are of him doing artwork for Marvel might be in the near future after he completes his current work output.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/74105/1690379-x_men_visionaries_neal_adams_tpb_v2___page_1_super .jpg

[Polaris]

Oooo nice cover! The original 5 and Havok.

[Justin K.]

Havok is currently a contestant in the battle for the Ultimate Alpha male of the X-books:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=13168136&postcount=397

[Siena Blaze]

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That's a nice cover. Any particular reason Polaris was not included?

[Royal Flush]

That's a nice cover. Any particular reason Polaris was not included?

I agree that seems to be the only thing missing

[jmc247]

That's a nice cover. Any particular reason Polaris was not included?

People forget how much a non character she was consider until quite reciently and of course is still considered by some to be a non character.

[infernohara]

I'm sure shes there. I think I see something green clinging on to Alex's leg behind Cyclops in the picture.

At least that was thought process for her I'm sure back in the day. Claremont is an amzing writer, but he really screwed Polaris into housewife.

[jmc247]

I'm sure shes there. I think I see something green clinging on to Alex's leg behind Cyclops in the picture.

At least that was thought process for her I'm sure back in the day. Claremont is an amzing writer, but he really screwed Polaris into housewife.

Turning her into Alex's weak fembot is the reason I will never ship the two of them. Fundamentally turning the character on her head from her tough Silver Age persona into Alex's housepet didn't poison Alex as a character for me, but it did kill any potental that I one day might support their relationship.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Silver%20Age%20and%20Claremont/uncanny-x-men-97.jpg

It would have been different if Lorna wasn't already an established character with her own persona well before Claremont showed up.

[Polaris]

How romantic! Love the tongue action. Havok is such a studmuffin.

[infernohara]

Its funny JMC, after seeing some of what you posted about Claremont thought about the 2 of the characters I can actually see what was going on. I'm not sure if he wanted Polaris to be housewife as the end product or he was just trying to give people a different view of what mutants though.

What I mean is: I read the phalanx convenant recently and it was trying to show that Havok wasn't born a hero, he was just kinda forced into it and is more a reluctant hero. I remember him saying something like he'd rather be in bed and oblivious to the phalanx invasion going on, but hes here protecting the world because hes needed or something to that affect. I'm guessing claremont wanted Havok and Polaris to be mutant heroes, but not in a traditional sense. They know they're mutants, but they want to actually lead normal lives instead of fight for mutant causes if that makes sense. Eventually they were put as the mutant heroes that Cyclops and the other 05 were meant to be, but perhaps to late. If that makes sense. I can tell by the scans that people put up with the Outback era X-men with Havok's constant questioning of his abilities. They were trying to mold a guy that truly wasn't "in the game". Polaris being just as guilty by association because she was just a reflection of Alex.

[jmc247]

Its funny JMC, after seeing some of what you posted about Claremont thought about the 2 of the characters I can actually see what was going on. I'm not sure if he wanted Polaris to be housewife as the end product or he was just trying to give people a different view of what mutants though.

What I mean is: I read the phalanx convenant recently and it was trying to show that Havok wasn't born a hero, he was just kinda forced into it and is more a reluctant hero. I remember him saying something like he'd rather be in bed and oblivious to the phalanx invasion going on, but hes here protecting the world because hes needed or something to that affect. I'm guessing claremont wanted Havok and Polaris to be mutant heroes, but not in a traditional sense. They know they're mutants, but they want to actually lead normal lives instead of fight for mutant causes if that makes sense. Eventually they were put as the mutant heroes that Cyclops and the other 05 were meant to be, but perhaps to late. If that makes sense. I can tell by the scans that people put up with the Outback era X-men with Havok's constant questioning of his abilities. They were trying to mold a guy that truly wasn't "in the game". Polaris being just as guilty by association because she was just a reflection of Alex.

I am well aware of that is what he was going for with Alex and it didn't actually hurt him nearly as much as he still had the connection to Scott and played a big role in things like during the Outback era.

Lorna had no connections beyond Alex and to a much lesser extent Jean and it was entirely under the bus for the character thanks in part to his plans for Alex, but I also think he wanted to juxtapose the non-hero Lorna with the heroes Jean and Storm. Hence those characters kicking her mind controlled ass, in Storm's case more then once.

[Polaris]

Its funny JMC, after seeing some of what you posted about Claremont thought about the 2 of the characters I can actually see what was going on. I'm not sure if he wanted Polaris to be housewife as the end product or he was just trying to give people a different view of what mutants though.

What I mean is: I read the phalanx convenant recently and it was trying to show that Havok wasn't born a hero, he was just kinda forced into it and is more a reluctant hero. I remember him saying something like he'd rather be in bed and oblivious to the phalanx invasion going on, but hes here protecting the world because hes needed or something to that affect. I'm guessing claremont wanted Havok and Polaris to be mutant heroes, but not in a traditional sense. They know they're mutants, but they want to actually lead normal lives instead of fight for mutant causes if that makes sense. Eventually they were put as the mutant heroes that Cyclops and the other 05 were meant to be, but perhaps to late. If that makes sense. I can tell by the scans that people put up with the Outback era X-men with Havok's constant questioning of his abilities. They were trying to mold a guy that truly wasn't "in the game". Polaris being just as guilty by association because she was just a reflection of Alex.
Their more recent appearances have shown that they have both moved beyond this hands-off, normal life mindset. The dedication to maintaining consistency with Claremont's vision for both characters still exists. I think both characters would be served better if that vision was abandoned completely by Marvel. As long as it remains, they will be sidelined and secondary, because there is no room for a title devoted to this mindset.

[jmc247]

Their more recent appearances have shown that they have both moved beyond this hands-off, normal life mindset. The dedication to maintaining consistency with Claremont's vision for both characters still exists. I think both characters would be served better if that vision was abandoned completely by Marvel. As long as it remains, they will be sidelined and secondary, because there is no room for a title devoted to this mindset.

Claremont's vision may have made some sense given he wanted to keep them around, but not use them on a consistent basis and there was only one and then two x-books in that era. Today in the era of multiple x-books it simply serves to keep the characters from moving forward.

[Polaris]

Havok does not have to be the best and most effective leader in every appearance to be a good leader, but the old inferiority thing is so overplayed whenever he's in the same airspace as Cyclops. It will always be a part of his history and character and I would never propose erasing it just because I don't like it, but we don't need to be reminded of it every time they meet.

[infernohara]

I am well aware of that is what he was going for with Alex and it didn't actually hurt him nearly as much as he still had the connection to Scott and played a big role in things like during the Outback era.

Lorna had no connections beyond Alex and to a much lesser extent Jean and it was entirely under the bus for the character thanks in part to his plans for Alex, but I also think he wanted to juxtapose the non-hero Lorna with the heroes Jean and Storm. Hence those characters kicking her mind controlled ass, in Storm's case more then once.

True. Havok did have a larger hand in things in the outback era. Still, I figure whatever he went through you could use him as a conduit for what lorna went through as well. (I'm assuming here)

That was a pretty interesting thought about Polaris alongside of Jean and Storm. She would've been controlled because she didn't get the conditioning the others had.....so she was more suceptible to manipulation as was shown in her early career with Eric the red. To be fair with the Storm beatdown, we have no idea how versed Malice was with polaris's powers. One can assume she may have been at the top of her game, but Sinister surely didn't fear her whatsoever. So I'm inclined to believe that she was only doing a low level amount of tricks. Surely nothing of greater skill than Lorna of the latter years. I'd like to see a battle between the two with both at the top of their game and Lorna at full control of her powers like in Emperor Vulcan.

Edit: Also it seems this was kinda duplicated in Dazzler's case. (To compare to Lorna) She still has the same hangups, but is much more popular....I wonder why this is?


Their more recent appearances have shown that they have both moved beyond this hands-off, normal life mindset. The dedication to maintaining consistency with Claremont's vision for both characters still exists. I think both characters would be served better if that vision was abandoned completely by Marvel. As long as it remains, they will be sidelined and secondary, because there is no room for a title devoted to this mindset.

I noticed this as well. They seem to actually want to fight the good fight and put a normal life on hold as of late, but its rather easy to pigeonhole them back to where they came from and a real easy way to get them into limbo again. I agree with you assessment that it she be elimnated completley. I suppose instead of just writing it off for it to be a natural progression of sorts. Kinfd of have the reflect on the past and show us what they wanted before and whatever key moment that happened for each of them that would leave this mindset behind and cement them as the true heroes they are. To final not live in the brothers shadow and be his own man for Alex and to not be a just a carbon copy of Magneto in Lorna's case. Maybe show how she sees mutants and humans together as an alternate of Magneto's mutants only reign.

[jmc247]

Its hard for Alex not to ever really claim his own territory that Scott hasn't as Scott has claimed alot of territory and had alot of views over the years on how he would protect mutants, humans, etc.

[Polaris]

I noticed this as well. They seem to actually want to fight the good fight and put a normal life on hold as of late, but its rather easy to pigeonhole them back to where they came from and a real easy way to get them into limbo again. I agree with your assessment that it should be eliminated completely. I suppose instead of just writing it off for it to be a natural progression of sorts. Kind of have the reflect on the past and show us what they wanted before and whatever key moment that happened for each of them that would leave this mindset behind and cement them as the true heroes they are. To final not live in the brothers shadow and be his own man for Alex.

Exactly. A reflection of the past showing where he came from and how much he has grown is a great way to go about it. Havok experienced years of failure and success as a leader. It adds to his experience. It has been a gradual move from reluctant hero, to committed mutant embracing his life and potential to do good as a mutant, since some are intent on turning back the clock on him. It is when writers want to illuminate the strengths of others who need no more development as a leader that Havok suffers.

[Tekkaman Blade]

That's a nice cover. Any particular reason Polaris was not included?

I really have no idea as to why Polaris was not included in the team shot for this cover, I guess it just wasn't in the cards when he did the layout. That version of the tpb was released in 1996.

Neal Adams even provided an updated cover for the re-release of the trade paperback (1999) with the same X-Men team shot and other characters added around them with Magneto, Sauron, the Savage Land Mutates, and even Xavier. Here is the updated version.

http://j4b.com.br/recado/ML/XMenVisionariesNealAdamsTPbc.jpg

http://j4b.com.br/recado/ML/XMenVisionariesNealAdamsTP.jpg

[Tekkaman Blade]

Havok does not have to be the best and most effective leader in every appearance to be a good leader, but the old inferiority thing is so overplayed whenever he's in the same airspace as Cyclops. It will always be a part of his history and character and I would never propose erasing it just because I don't like it, but we don't need to be reminded of it every time they meet.

Totally agree. Havok has lead and co-lead various teams ranging from X-Factor to the X-Men and most recently the Starjammers for quite some time. His old hangups and insecurities on being an efficient leader and comparing his performances to his older brother need not apply and really should not resurface again any time soon. It would just be retreading old ground again and regress his character which is not necessary.

I look forward to Mike Carey continuing on with the character development Havok received by Yost in the two mini's and Abnett/Lanning with War of Kings when he resurfaces in X-Men Legacy this year. Havok is more than capable now to stand out as his own man.

[Mitteloss]

Totally agree. Havok has lead and co-lead various teams ranging from X-Factor to the X-Men and most recently the Starjammers for quite some time. His old hangups and insecurities on being an efficient leader and comparing his performances to his older brother need not apply and really should not resurface again any time soon. It would just be retreading old ground again and regress his character which is not necessary.

I look forward to Mike Carey continuing on with the character development Havok received by Yost in the two mini's and Abnett/Lanning with War of Kings when he resurfaces in X-Men Legacy this year. Havok is more than capable now to stand out as his own man.

I agree, I think when Havok meets with Scott again there won't be that old comparison again but this time Havok would come across as his own man with self-confidence to lead and not subvert to Scott.

[Siena Blaze]

I really have no idea as to why Polaris was not included in the team shot for this cover, I guess it just wasn't in the cards when he did the layout. That version of the tpb was released in 1996.

Neal Adams even provided an updated cover for the re-release of the trade paperback (1999) with the same X-Men team shot and other characters added around them with Magneto, Sauron, the Savage Land Mutates, and even Xavier.

Thanks. I guess it's just one of the many perks of being a leader. You get to appear more often and talk to more people.

Havok needs to retain his role as a leader when he returns to Earth. One thing I really hated about Milligan's run was how he undermined Havok to prop up Emma Frost. It was so unnecessary to Emma's development and totally damaging to Havok.

[Havok83]

Thanks. I guess it's just one of the many perks of being a leader. You get to appear more often and talk to more people.

Havok needs to retain his role as a leader when he returns to Earth. One thing I really hated about Milligan's run was how he undermined Havok to prop up Emma Frost. It was so unnecessary to Emma's development and totally damaging to Havok.
IA. I thought he was a decent enough leader in X-factor and Mutant X, but he failed miserably in X-men v2

[Havok83]

What an amazing cover

http://s1.torbit.com/img/365ce368483b2571dc86df95499f18cea1e5d5e0-XMEN257.jpg

[kidfresh512]

What an amazing cover

http://s1.torbit.com/img/365ce368483b2571dc86df95499f18cea1e5d5e0-XMEN257.jpg

ooh love it

[fitditz]

returning to fill the summers male void post-schism

[The Surrealist]

returning to fill the summers male void post-schism

Possibly, I like Havok a lot, would like to see him regularly appear in X-Books again. He is one of those characters with a very lethal superpower though, so I imagine it's difficult to write him as a typical superhero. Luckily, the issues with him being supposedly the lesser Summers-brother makes up for it, though if he got over his hang-ups, that would be an improvement.

[fitditz]

I think the time lost in space will show to be beneficial to him.

[darknessatnoon]

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[zulu]

Havok looks so cool with his power signature always on.

[Lyrd]

Havoc... He's so hot right now...

[zulu]

Havoc... He's so hot right now...

Totally! I'm hoping Polaris and Rachel are pregnant.

[EXCELSIOR 2.0]

Totally! I'm hoping Polaris and Rachel are pregnant.

uh ew, that's his niece?

[zulu]

uh ew, that's his niece?

I used to think she was, but I found out they're not related. Not that it matters. They barely know each other. And Havok is hot.

[witchboy]

I'm assuming that zulu means Rachel is pregnant by her Shiar bf. Not that this would be the first case in incest in the Summers family.
Polaris pregnant could be interesting, maybe that would get Magneto's attention, but comic book babies always get taken away somehow unless you're Susan Richards.

[zulu]

Havok needs to have more development. He needs his own family on the side while he's doing his superhero thing. Polaris is too powerful to be on a team and should stay at home and cook meals for the team while watching the other women's illegitimate babies and protecting them with her force field. Havok needs to lead without distractions.

[witchboy]

I don't think Polaris is too poweful to be on a team and don't want her to a housewife! I do love the idea of Polaris being a babysitter for one story though, just to give her a maternal moment. Ever since the cute Luna/Lorna moment in War of Kings I am in love with Lorna as a great aunt, who needs to bond with all of Wanda's grown kids.

[zulu]

Would you settle for more bedroom scenes like the Scott/Emma one but with Havolaris?

[streator]

rip flight?

any context?

[Justin K.]

Sexilicious!

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/247/3/d/3d213556f8713801c90f5b3e9edd928a.jpg
By Nadino-Designs (http://nadino-designs.deviantart.com/)

[Aguja]

OMG Justin that is amazing. Did you make it?

[Justin K.]

OMG Justin that is amazing. Did you make it?

No, I came across it on Deviantart (link is beneath the pic)
Found some of the users work hit and miss but loved this piece.

[nickmarino]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5152115092_2d7a898189_o.jpg http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/uncanny/uncanny270.jpg

[zulu]

Yumyum!!! Havok can have any woman he wants. Soon he'll have new toys to play with.

[Havok83]

Havok and Dazzler could be fun

[zulu]

Havok and Dazzler could be fun

Blondes do have more fun. I've always wanted an Alex/Betsy hook up.

[jarrod]

Havok/Frenzy works on so many levels. As does Polaris/Gambit... as excited as I am to have PAD's Lornex back, I kinda wish they'd lasted in Legacy longer.

Will Lorna and Rachel keep in touch? :(

[Omegastorm]

Sexilicious!

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/247/3/d/3d213556f8713801c90f5b3e9edd928a.jpg
By Nadino-Designs (http://nadino-designs.deviantart.com/)

Hotness, more please.

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[BBeeryan]

Can someone be so kind as to post my favorite scene of Havok?

[Havok83]

I was looking at a family tree didnt even realize he had a younger sister, Haley from his adoptive family. Anyone interested in seeing her make a return now as an adult? I think it could be an interesting dynamic to have them reunited.

[jmc247]

Ultimate Havok makes his real return tomorrow in Ultimate X-Men.

Preview pages.


• The mysteries of the mutant dead deepen even further.

• A familiar and much feared foe makes an unexpected return.

• What do you know about the last time the world ended?

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