Most Underrated Marvel Characters

[Metaphysician]

Who in the Marvel Universe is most forgotten, most underutilized, most disrespected by writers and readers??

[Gumbo Maximillian]

Taskmaster?

[Grazzt]

Gladiator and Apocalypse are both really bad jobbers.

Cloak and Dagger are underused, in my opinion. As is Alpha Flight.

[Artemis1]

In the term uderrated:
Spiderman
Green Goblin
Vulture
Hobgoblin 2
Red Skull
Apocalypse

[raoulduke]

Seriously, why do people still think Spider-Man is underrated?

[Pendaran]

After a recent experience, I would have to say Iron Fist.

Oh, and in general, Gladiator and the New Gods.

[Mole_mans_revenge]

[QUOTE=Grazzt]Gladiator and Apocalypse are both really bad jobbers.QUOTE]

*agrees* :D

[Slayven]

Who in the Marvel Universe is most forgotten, most underutilized, most disrespected by writers and readers??
Prime
Hardcase
Boneyard
Skeletron
Overshadow
Hybrid(the wraith and the symbiote)
Captain Universe
Daimon Hellstrom
Sundown

[Artemis1]

Seriously, why do people still think Spider-Man is underrated?

In Comic Book Rumbles, people put him down weaker than he is. I mean, people thought he would have a very hard time with the NINJA TURTLES! He's way too underrated.

[Artemis1]

There's also the forgotten Stegron who we all love to see fight Spidey.

[BcAugust]

Hannibal King.
Dracula
Varnea
Frank Drake
Lilith, Mother of Demons
...
Actually, any Marvel supernatural other then Dr. Strange, pretty much.

[raoulduke]

In Comic Book Rumbles, people put him down weaker than he is. I mean, people thought he would have a very hard time with the NINJA TURTLES! He's way too underrated.

Underestimated on CBR?

Was that before or after he made a great case for beating Kenshin?

Seriously, only dumb people underestimate him. The rest of us see him as the Batfamily-crushing juggernaut he is.

[raoulduke]

Hannibal King.
Dracula
Varnea
Frank Drake
Lilith, Mother of Demons
...
Actually, any Marvel supernatural other then Dr. Strange, pretty much.

BROTHER VOODOO!

Of course I hear he's getting his own live-action show on UPN. If that's a good or bad thing, I don't know.

[Gideon Quinn]

Doctor Druid.

[Trystenn]

Daimon Hellstrom
You shall be remembered for that.

[fnhspidey]

I would have to say that Nova is not used enough.

[Goldenbane]

Captain Universe
Photon
Nova
The Abomination
Hobgoblin
Firelord

[Dark Soul # 7]

Firelord
So very true. When has he EVER won a fight?

Mephisto
Blackheart
Quasar

[hitokiri_]

spiderman and wolverine

they are not in the titles like jla, jsa, flash, batman, wonderwoman, superman, etc.

[Knightosis]

Galactus. :(
Shang-Chi & White Tiger as well.

[Dizzy D]

Most disrespected by writers:
Marvel's Hercules: He's still the version that is supposed to have done all the Labours (which required more than just brute strength), but 99% of the time he is the dumb guy that punches, follows Caps orders and is there because they couldn't get Thor.
The best I've seen him has been long, long ago where he takes along Firelord to pay back for the damages he has done to the city when fighting Spider-Man.

seconding Alpha Flight (always seen as a 2nd rate team, even though they had line-ups that would have given the Avengers a good fight)

Most forgotten/underutilized:
Marvel Boy, Gilgamesh (pun both intended and not) and seconding Daimon Hellstrom.

[GozertheGozarian]

Jack of Hearts
Crossbones

[Kaiju]

Black Bolt- The jobbing to Subby is the one that made me shake my head. Subby damaged his antenna and BB curled up into a fetal ball and had to be rescued.

The antenna acts as a focus for BB but he can still use his powers fairly easily without it. The writer seemed to have no clue that source of Black Bolt's power wasn't in his antenna and he seemed to think that it was attached to his nervous system. :evilangry

His punking at the hands of Ronan the Accuser was pretty bad as well.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Cloak and Dagger
Moleman

[CDTM]

I'd say probably Cassandra Batgirl. She does have some comparable dodge feats as Iron Fist's most impressive, involving just subtly moving her body to avoid masses of gunnfire, and her strength, while not even close to Fist's level, is still pretty impressive by street standards, e.g. breaking through bullet proof glass with just her hand.

[Knightosis]

I'd say probably Cassandra Batgirl. She does have some comparable dodge feats as Iron Fist's most impressive, involving just subtly moving her body to avoid masses of gunnfire, and her strength, while not even close to Fist's level, is still pretty impressive by street standards, e.g. breaking through bullet proof glass with just her hand.

Uh CDTM? The topic is most underrated MARVEL characters.

Batgirl isn't Marvel buddy. ;)

[hathead]

Electro...nuff said

[Ramz]

Hannibal King.

What exactly can Hannibal king do?

[Kevinroc]

Electro...nuff said

Last time I saw Electro Iron Man had designed a special energy bubble to contain him and Electro fainted when Luke Cage wanted to beat the crap out of him after having Spider-Man web up his hands. (New Avengers #4.)

Sure, it sounds like a pathetic showing but I don't think it's too bad a showing. Electro shouldn't be much of a match for Iron Man with prep time.

[StoneGold]

Speedball, natch.


Crossbones seems to be getting some serious respect from Brubaker at least. And Electro has been getting some respect lately, between shutting down NYC in NA#1 and his MK Spider-Man appearances.

[Jack]

Electro has been getting a lot of respect lately.

Spider-Man is criminally disrespected here.

The entire New Warriors lineup. Allow me to go into more detail.

Speedball taps into an entire dimension of infinite kinetic energy, but just when that's not quite uber enough it turns out that this dimension is made up of every single moment of time ever. Oh, and Robbie doesn't just tap into it... he is it. He's a cosmic being treated like a joke by almost every writer to touch him. I'm looking at you, Bendis.

Firestar has gone toe to toe with Heralds. In fact in space, where she was able to cut loose at her full power without the risk of hurting anyone, she was said to be more powerful than Firelord. Also said to be able to destroy planets.

Justice has lead the New Warriors into literal warzones, and when he was in prison he got his daily exercise by handing the entire staff of Guardmen (in power armour) their asses.

Nova has fought and won intergalactic wars and has a powerset that defies Spidey for sheer versatility. He's KOed versions of Thor and Iron Man with his gravimetric pulse, which has also hurt Gladiator of all people. In addition he can absorb and redirect Firestar's maximum energy output - see where I pointed out that she could destroy planets.

Namorita/Kymaera/whatever she's calling herself these days has a Sub Mariner+ powerset, with more actual abilities than Namor. Flight, superstrength/durability, electricity absorption/redirection, cloaking, etc etc.

Rage gets stronger as he gets angrier, like a mini-Hulk.

Night Thrasher is a mini-Batman, only he puts a lot more money into his armour than Bats does, and he's constantly improving it. Mad skills plus high-tech armour plus telepathic resistance with a load of cash to back it up.

[Pendaran]

For the curious, scans of Nova KTFOing those people with his nova blast, and bloodying Gladiator up with it in an extant thread.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=53832&page=5&pp=15

Nova takes the beating of a lifetime, involving things like, oh, this:

http://photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/Folder%202/?action=view&current=nova06.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/Folder%202/?action=view&current=nova07.jpg

And he keeps getting up and going.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/Folder%202/?action=view&current=nova08.jpg

[BcAugust]

What exactly can Hannibal king do?

Ok, for one, Top notch Marvel Vampire. Which by itself means stuff like lifting 20-50 tons(Maybe more, but hannibal has never done str feats), high level hypnosis(An alt world version managed to hypnotize Blade, which even Dracula couldn't do, and Dracula's hypnotized Dr. Strange.) Shapeshifting into bats(Including a human sized one), wolves(including a wolfman form), and mist(Auto change if he gets hit too hard or even just changing part of his body to mist). Plus his ability to call vermin (Rats, bats, wolves, even overriding their survival instinct if he commands, and can call over a thousand rats or packs of wolves) And superman senses, durability, regeneration from anything that doesn't kill him instantly(Walked out into the sun, let it burn him to the muscle, then healed back in less then 15 seconds in the shade) Oh, and he can survive and even move with a stake in the heart. Oh, and the immortality too.

Personal level, he's one of the most incredibly strong willed people on Marvel Earth. To the point where he's stood up to both Dracula and Varnea in their lord of vampire incarnations and refused to obey them, willingly throws himself through bonfires(A vampire bane) Or stay awake through the day. And has never killed a human being through bloodlust(Nightstalkers may or may not have had him killing humans. It's unclear). ( He actually went a week without drinking blood, when Dracula devolves into mindlessness in three or so days) He's also a good detective, has a good knowledge of the occult, and is a good enough fighter that he, with vampire powers, can fight Blade to a standstill.

Anything else?

[olympichero62]

Iron fist, shang chi, and Iceman.

[Aziz Abbasi]

Moon Knight
Human Torch

In the term uderrated:
Spiderman
spiderman and wolverine
Spider-Man is criminally disrespected here*Glad to see I'm not the only one who finds this one underrated, before 2004 when they made him join the "New Avengers" he was the only superhero to operate alone most of his time, & make all of his stuff on his own
*Beside those he is the only one who makes fun of villains before knocking them unconscious with a good reason, to baffle his foes and be more confident
He is also hated for ridiculous reasons, the most ridiculous I heard & read is the webbing, many heroes transport using a thread, but his thread are more functional than anything Batman can use and saves much more space
*This is the one character IMO who should be loved & admired by all, loved much more than Batman
Iron fist, shang chi, and Iceman.All three you voted for I agree with entirely

[Mobey Wee]

Wow, this is an old one. I wouldn't have thought a lot still holds true. Spidey and Iron Fist still getting disrespected? I also seem to recall Iceman laying the smack down in a few rumbles here recently.

[OverMaster]

I'd say The Aquarian, but the very nature of the character makes hard to correctly gauge him.

[Aubergine~!]

Wow, this is an old one. I wouldn't have thought a lot still holds true. Spidey and Iron Fist still getting disrespected? I also seem to recall Iceman laying the smack down in a few rumbles here recently.

Iron Fist has gotten a lot of respect, thanks in part to that awesome ongoing he had. Same with Nova I'd think.

[cbrer]

Cloak and Dagger (well mostly Cloak...)
Selene (Black Queen)
Elixir

[Iron Shadow]

Colossus, USAgent, Blazing Skull, Human Torch (android), Beast, Moonknight

[Holy Spirit]

Galactus

He is older than the universe has tech Reed Richards can't wrap his mind around and I am tired of writers treating him like an immature idotic fool.

His weakness is not hunger, it's stupidity.:mad:

[shadowsetaq28]

Galactus

He is older than the universe has tech Reed Richards can't wrap his mind around and I am tired of writers treating him like an immature idotic fool.

His weakness is not hunger, it's stupidity.:mad:

Agree he should eat the entire Marvel,because he is Galactus

[Legato]

Storm: She is one of the best leaders the X-Men ever has, when depowered can be a badass normal, has held her own against classic Juggernaut. However she hasn't been doing anything impressive ever since being married to Black Panther. I place the blame on the writer who treats her as nothing more than just being Black Panther's trophy wife.

Emma Frost: Remembering her run in Generation X she hasn't been treated well by writers after Generation X ended.

[Iron Shadow]

Galactus

He is older than the universe has tech Reed Richards can't wrap his mind around and I am tired of writers treating him like an immature idotic fool.

His weakness is not hunger, it's stupidity.:mad:

Cannot BELIEVE i didn't think of that! Thank you for reminding me. I am SOOOO sick of hearing about all these people who have beaten Galactus or made a chump out of him. He may be the single best example of what we're talking about.

[Siriel]

Galactus

He is older than the universe has tech Reed Richards can't wrap his mind around and I am tired of writers treating him like an immature idotic fool.

His weakness is not hunger, it's stupidity.:mad:

He recently completely punked Red Hulk while (awesomely) ranting about how he wasn't to be messed with. In a series that had been writing Red Hulk as the ultimate killing of machine of bullshit.

Mind you, he's still badly written sometimes, but he does get respect.

[Iron Shadow]

He recently completely punked Red Hulk while (awesomely) ranting about how he wasn't to be messed with. In a series that had been writing Red Hulk as the ultimate killing of machine of bullshit.

Mind you, he's still badly written sometimes, but he does get respect.

Please tell me you have scans of that, or know where to find them? Please???

[Iron Shadow]

Nvm, found them myself :)

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1525/galactus0.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1955/galactus.jpg

[Holy Spirit]

He recently completely punked Red Hulk while (awesomely) ranting about how he wasn't to be messed with. In a series that had been writing Red Hulk as the ultimate killing of machine of bullshit.

Mind you, he's still badly written sometimes, but he does get respect.

......................if you say so. Everybody has a right to their opinion, but I respectfully disagree.

It annoys me greatly when I see a being that is the third force in the entire universe have any kind of trouble taking a single planet. I understand not being able to eat earth for obvious reasons but come on, the other planets should be no more difficult to get for him than it is for me to get a sandwhich at the supermarket. How beings that he could kill with a stray thought are somehow even the smallest of an obstacle is silly.

I nearly cried when I saw Storm, Black Panther, Torch, and Thing slow down Galactus and TWO heralds from taking the living planet. Three vs Four and those Three are cosmics and the four are not...........

What I mean when I say respect is that the fantastic four where called to help the living planet, knew that they were taking on Galactus, and thought that a line up of Storm, Black Panter, Torch, and Thing was enough to do anything.

Remember when the Celestials came and Odin and the other Skyfathers had to band together and prepare the destroyer and fight them. People don't give Galactus that kind of respect, even though he is more powerful and important to the universe then they are.

[Iron Shadow]

......................if you say so. Everybody has a right to their opinion, but I respectfully disagree.

It annoys me greatly when I see a being that is the third force in the entire universe have any kind of trouble taking a single planet. I understand not being able to eat earth for obvious reasons but come on, the other planets should be no more difficult to get for him than it is for me to get a sandwhich at the supermarket.

I nearly cried when I saw Storm, Black Panther, Torch, and Thing slow down Galactus and TWO heralds from taking the living planet. Three vs Four and those Three are cosmics and the four are not...........

What I mean when I say respect is that the fantastic four where called to help the living planet, knew that they were taking on Galactus, and thought that a line up of Storm, Black Panter, Torch, and Thing was enough to do anything.

Remember when the Celestials came and Odin and the other Skyfathers had to band together and prepare the destroyer and fight them. People don't give Galactus that kind of respect, even though he is more important to the universe then they are.

Galactus shouldn't have even have had to bother looking down at them. That team couldn't take Hulk, let alone Galactus.

[Pendaran]

People don't give Galactus that kind of respect

A hit parade of someone of the most powerful superheroes on Marvel Earth /barely/ took a starving, dying, poisoned Galactus.

He's beaten the Silver Surfer with his finger.

He took out Beta Ray Bill by clapping his hands together.

A fight between him and Tyrant wasted galaxies.

He's switched around galaxies for each other, by all of flashing his eyes as far as how long that took him to do and how much effort it came off as involving.

Even in a period where Mephisto was being written as ludicrously powerful, Galactus started /eating his realm/

The guy has taken on Agamotto in Agamotto's place of power and gone blow for blow with him. With the rest of the Vishanti complaining the fight was starting to destabilize multiple dimensions.

Galactus, while he gets his share of bad writing, also gets his share of respect.

[Siriel]

......................if you say so. Everybody has a right to their opinion, but I respectfully disagree.

It annoys me greatly when I see a being that is the third force in the entire universe have any kind of trouble taking a single planet. I understand not being able to eat earth for obvious reasons but come on, the other planets should be no more difficult to get for him than it is for me to get a sandwhich at the supermarket.

I nearly cried when I saw Storm, Black Panther, Torch, and Thing slow down Galactus and TWO heralds from taking the living planet. Three vs Four and those Three are cosmics and the four are not...........

What I mean when I say respect is that the fantastic four where called to help the living planet, knew that they were taking on Galactus, and thought that a line up of Storm, Black Panter, Torch, and Thing was enough to do anything.

Remember when the Celestials came and Odin and the other Skyfathers had to band together and prepare the destroyer and fight them. People don't give Galactus that kind of respect, even though he is more important to the universe then they are.

On the other side of thing, you have him being exhausted and having had his energy drained for months and doing stuff like wiping out the Annihilation Wave with a single attack once he was free.
To be clear, this is an invasion that had it's own series. That Galactus one-shotted despite being weakened and drained.

Does he have his low moments? Sure. Just like everyone.
Does he gets respect? Most of the times, yes.

[Mobey Wee]

Galactus can tank Loeb writing. That says a lot.

[OverMaster]

The problem with Galactus is it's near impossible to portray him as succeeding without wiping a planet off, and since most Marvel characters are located around Earth, well... you do the math. Which wouldn't be so much of an issue if he weren't overused so much.

[Holy Spirit]

A hit parade of someone of the most powerful superheroes on Marvel Earth /barely/ took a starving, dying, poisoned Galactus.

He's beaten the Silver Surfer with his finger.

He took out Beta Ray Bill by clapping his hands together.

A fight between him and Tyrant wasted galaxies.

He's switched around galaxies for each other, by all of flashing his eyes as far as how long that took him to do and how much effort it came off as involving.

Even in a period where Mephisto was being written as ludicrously powerful, Galactus started /eating his realm/

The guy has taken on Agamotto in Agamotto's place of power and gone blow for blow with him. With the rest of the Vishanti complaining the fight was starting to destabilize multiple dimensions.

Galactus, while he gets his share of bad writing, also gets his share of respect.

But see, this thread is about underrated beings, and Galactus is very much underrated. I know full well he is respected on this board but in his own universe not even close. Most of what you just posted are feats of power, which is wonderful and all but he is the third force of the entire universe how many times are people genuinely in awe of him.

I am not saying he doesn't get any respect but nowhere near enough compared to what he deserves.

I love his portrayal in NOVA, there was no unnecessary talking form him, Nova could do nothing to stop him or more importantly he was no real threat to even slow him down. It was beautiful, that is how he should treat every planet that is not named earth. I understand it is a big deal to the beings on the planet but to Galactus it not something that shouldn't even make him blink.

But as I said to the other guy everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

[Mobey Wee]

I think they're just pointing out, that what you're talking about is pretty much a given for most super hero comics. Don't think anyone's really disagreeing about anything.

[Siriel]

how many times are people genuinely in awe of him?

Honestly?

Virtually every time someone not-ridiculously-cosmic is fighting him, they comment on how ridiculously out of their league he is.

Kind of like at one time when Surfer trapped him in a statue or something.

Reed: "Incredible! Surfer has stopped Galactus!"

*Galactus decides that he wants to move now and shatters the prison by moving*

Reed: "We're all fucked."

Things along those lines.

[Holy Spirit]

I think they're just pointing out, that what you're talking about is pretty much a given for most super hero comics. Don't think anyone's really disagreeing about anything.

I understand what you are saying but that is what the topic is about so...........................


And another thing! Why is Galactus so stupid he knows that the planets will be resisting him why not protect his equitment better! And it really shouldn't be that hard to find a loyal servant, you would think that after the umpteenth herald betrayal he would stop trying it the same way over and over. He could easily create his own herald level being from nothing like he made Tyrant except this time actually bother to give them a loyal personality.

But anyway you never know if things will change in the future!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Captain England]

Galactus has a big hat.

[Holy Spirit]

Honestly?

Virtually every time someone not-ridiculously-cosmic is fighting him, they comment on how ridiculously out of their league he is.

Kind of like at one time when Surfer trapped him in a statue or something.

Reed: "Incredible! Surfer has stopped Galactus!"

*Galactus decides that he wants to move now and shatters the prison by moving*

Reed: "We're all fucked."

Things along those lines.

Yep, that's about how it goes right before they start to pawn him!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
The thread wants you to point out people you feel are underrated that is all I am doing.

Who do you think is underrated?

[Captain England]

Even if Galactus had a big bag of Doritos he would probably want more Doritos.

[Siriel]

And another thing! Why is Galactus so stupid he knows that the planets will be resisting him why not protect his equitment better!

Because he doesn't need to?

Aside from specific "Galactus is extremely weakened" situations, there isn't much that can be done against him as far as individual planets are concerned.

Unless stuff like "Reed Richard has acquired the Ultimate Nullifier" happens, but no amount of protection would help against that anyway.

Basically: If they have something that can beat Galactus, then there's no point for him to try to protect his stuff.

[OverMaster]

Galactus has a big hat.

And you know what they say about guys with big hats...

[shadowsetaq28]

Since Dr.Strange is so weak now he should be on the list ?

[Captain England]

Since Dr.Strange is so weak now he should be on the list ?

If Dr Strange goes on the list then so does every single random joey ninja in the marvel universe.

[Siriel]

Since Dr.Strange is so weak now he should be on the list ?

That's not being underrated though. That's him being specifically depowered.

[Captain England]

And you know what they say about guys with big hats...

They have hats.

[Mobey Wee]

Now Doc Strange during his time with the New Avengers....

[Iron Shadow]

Even if Galactus had a big bag of Doritos he would probably want more Doritos.

Dude, I love the best of Captain England :)

[Siriel]

Who do you think is underrated?

I'm not exactly a Marvel guy.

Aside from Rogue, but she gets plenty of respect.

[Jacob B]

Well I'd say Blob is disrespected by writers and readers. (Like this forum)

No offense.

[Captain England]

Well I'd say Blob is disrespected by writers and readers. (Like this forum)

No offense.

Galactus could eat way more Doritos than the Blob. Galactus would be still eating Doritos when the Blob had stopped eating Doritos and Galactus would be like dude is that all the Doritos you're going to eat cause if you're not going to eat them I'm totally going to eat them and then Galactus would have another Pepsi Max.

[Iron Shadow]

Well I'd say Blob is disrespected by writers and readers. (Like this forum)

No offense.

That's surprising. Although to be fair, I do think that their are plenty of fairly powerful guys that Blob could beat. You just seem to pick the wrong ones.

[Iron Shadow]

Galactus could eat way more Doritos than the Blob. Galactus would be still eating Doritos when the Blob had stopped eating Doritos and Galactus would be like dude is that all the Doritos you're going to eat cause if you're not going to eat them I'm totally going to eat them and then Galactus would have another Pepsi Max.

Zombie Blob: Mmmmm, Galactus, yummy!
Galactus: Holy crap, no, get away from me you fat freak! I said no, ow! that hurts, ahh frick aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!.....
Zombie Blob: snork hurk gobble *fart* gobble nawm nawm
(stomach bursts from eating too much Galactus)
Zombie Glob: Oooh, goodie, room for more!

[Captain England]

Zombie Blob: Mmmmm, Galactus, yummy!
Galactus: Holy crap, no, get away from me you fat freak! I said no, ow! that hurts, ahh frick aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!.....
Zombie Blob: snork hurk gobble *fart* gobble nawm nawm
(stomach bursts from eating too much Galactus)
Zombie Glob: Oooh, goodie, room for more!

Zombie Galactus has a hat made out of bones.

[shadowsetaq28]

Well I'd say Blob is disrespected by writers and readers. (Like this forum)

No offense.

Well nice avatar,better than the last one i saw.
I kinda liked Blob in the original series of X-men,and a bit in Evolution,to bad he suck in the movie.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Unless stuff like "Reed Richard has acquired the Ultimate Nullifier" happens, but no amount of protection would help against that anyway.

Honestly, there's still nothing preventing Galactus from just teleporting the UN back into his ship, dumping Reed in an uninhabitable planet three dimensions over, or aging him to dust in a moment, or...

[Siriel]

Honestly, there's still nothing preventing Galactus from just teleporting the UN back into his ship, dumping Reed in an uninhabitable planet three dimensions over, or aging him to dust in a moment, or...

Messing with someone holding the thing is generally a bad idea, as it can lead to him accidentally destroying the universe.

And, as a wise man once put it, Galactus likes the universe. It's where he keeps all his stuff.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Messing with someone holding the thing is generally a bad idea, as it can lead to him accidentally destroying the universe.

And, as a wise man once put it, Galactus likes the universe. It's where he keeps all his stuff.Well, yeah, but that's only if Reed has a chance to pull the trigger, which should never be a real factor against someone who can twist time into an origami crane with the slightest thought.

[Siriel]

Well, yeah, but that's only if Reed has a chance to pull the trigger, which should never be a real factor against someone who can twist time into an origami crane with the slightest thought.

You are now talking of PIS, I was talking of Respect.

Personally "To drive him off, they needed a weapon capable of fucking up the universe which is linked to the guy's power" is a sign of...well, pretty good respect from the writer's part, actually.

[obadiah horn]

Ive got to go with Sue Storm, she has been trained by Iron Fist solo'd the wrecking crew, held off pucnges from Gladiator ,stopped Tsunamis in both universes, blocked nuclear blast, held off wielders of the power cosmic and SOLO'D A CELESTIAL!!!!!


Yet writers are still content to have her just blocking bullets and huddling under her bubble protecting her kids half the time.:mad: :mad:

[Pendaran]

Well, yeah, but that's only if Reed has a chance to pull the trigger, which should never be a real factor against someone who can twist time into an origami crane with the slightest thought.

The ultimate nullifier is kinda sensitive. Throwing power around when it is deployed with someone's finger on the trigger is a nonzero chance of total catastrophic fucking ups happening. Or just throwing power around it generally. One does not want to set off the universe killing weapon.

[The Once And Forever]

And, as a wise man once put it, Galactus likes the universe. It's where he keeps all his stuff.

Gotta love the Dresden Files reference.

Unless it's from something else, which the Dresden Files aped.

Which is possible, sadly.

[Acecool]

Honestly?

Virtually every time someone not-ridiculously-cosmic is fighting him, they comment on how ridiculously out of their league he is.

Kind of like at one time when Surfer trapped him in a statue or something.

Reed: "Incredible! Surfer has stopped Galactus!"

*Galactus decides that he wants to move now and shatters the prison by moving*

Reed: "We're all fucked."

Things along those lines.

You mean Rise of the Silver Surfer wasn't true to the comics. My world is shattered now, thanks.

[T-1000]

The GLA

....

What?

Ok, so maybe they aren't underrated, since they are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel, but I kinda always wanted to see these guys get their own series. I know that they are the amateurs, but I always wanted to see them actually develop into their own team.

In a world with plenty of well developed teams who have all already come into their own and are already expected to come through whenever the world is about to end, I really wanted to see these guys work their way up from the bottom to... well maybe not the top but at least a few stories above ground level.

[Jacob B]

Zombie Blob: Mmmmm, Galactus, yummy!
Galactus: Holy crap, no, get away from me you fat freak! I said no, ow! that hurts, ahh frick aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!.....
Zombie Blob: snork hurk gobble *fart* gobble nawm nawm
(stomach bursts from eating too much Galactus)
Zombie Blob: Oooh, goodie, room for more!

That's hialarious! My favorite part was when Galactus said "No get away from me you fat freak!"

[Jacob B]

Galactus could eat way more Doritos than the Blob. Galactus would be still eating Doritos when the Blob had stopped eating Doritos and Galactus would be like dude is that all the Doritos you're going to eat cause if you're not going to eat them I'm totally going to eat them and then Galactus would have another Pepsi Max.

Sorry for the double post.

4 things about that.....1 is that Galactus is probably way over 100 feet tall...2nd if he's that big he'll have a stomach the size of jupiter...3rd doritos are small for both Blob and Galactus....4th and probably the most crucial Galactus doesn't eat regular earthing' food or any other food like that he turns planets into energy and consumes them....Blob would win by default.

[Holacik]

The GLA

....

What?

Ok, so maybe they aren't underrated, since they are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel, but I kinda always wanted to see these guys get their own series. I know that they are the amateurs, but I always wanted to see them actually develop into their own team.

In a world with plenty of well developed teams who have all already come into their own and are already expected to come through whenever the world is about to end, I really wanted to see these guys work their way up from the bottom to... well maybe not the top but at least a few stories above ground level.

Squirell girl is on their team.

[aut0matic]

the gladiator/king hulk from the planet hulk/wwh storyline...

we have red hulk, dumb green hulk, son of hulk, bruce banner, and hercules even stealing the guy's book, but where the hell is the hulk i give a shit about? seriously, what is marvel doing here?

[Mike Smith]

Wolverine. People always underestimate his claws.

[steve2275]

Ive got to go with Sue Storm, she has been trained by Iron Fist solo'd the wrecking crew, held off pucnges from Gladiator ,stopped Tsunamis in both universes, blocked nuclear blast, held off wielders of the power cosmic and SOLO'D A CELESTIAL!!!!!


Yet writers are still content to have her just blocking bullets and huddling under her bubble protecting her kids half the time.:mad: :mad:got a scan of that?
now...whered i put those doritos

[shadowsetaq28]

Nightcrawler FTW.

[Sharpandpointies]

Wolverine. People always underestimate his claws.

Now I know you're just being funny. ^_^

[Sharkerbob]

I would say Power Pack. Course, they don't get much attention despite a recent rival, but especially back in the 80's, they were one of the better, and more creative, comics out there.

[Gumbo Maximillian]

But him being weak from hunger isn't exactly an uncommon thing when he finally decides to get down to eating is it?


Because he doesn't need to?

Aside from specific "Galactus is extremely weakened" situations, there isn't much that can be done against him as far as individual planets are concerned.

Unless stuff like "Reed Richard has acquired the Ultimate Nullifier" happens, but no amount of protection would help against that anyway.

Basically: If they have something that can beat Galactus, then there's no point for him to try to protect his stuff.

[Siriel]

But him being weak from hunger isn't exactly an uncommon thing when he finally decides to get down to eating is it?

Hum?

Even then(with PIS on) Earth needs thing like the Godblast to make him decide that it's not worth the bother and that he'll go elsewhere.

Otherwise, even hungry and after having his energy drained, he annihilates the Annihilation Wave in one blast, so it's not like a single planet is going to overpower him.

That aside, his equipment is pretty much just there because he's too lazy to do it himself.

[Sharpandpointies]

That aside, his equipment is pretty much just there because he's too lazy to do it himself.

I vaguely recall reading that it's more efficient - he doesn't get as much of the energy if he just does it himself.

I could be misremembering.

[Siriel]

I vaguely recall reading that it's more efficient - he doesn't get as much of the energy if he just does it himself.

I could be misremembering.

This is someone who sends his Heralds around when he could just program some drone to find the planet, and who travels in a ship despite the fact that he can teleport.

It's all about laziness.:tongue:

[Sharkerbob]

I vaguely recall reading that it's more efficient - he doesn't get as much of the energy if he just does it himself.

I could be misremembering.

Pretty much that. He could turn a whole planet into consumable energy, but he needs the machines to be able to properly funnel it all to him. Either too much energy is lost without it or it isn't processed efficiently enough for him to properly digest.

Of course, high level cosmic entity that he is, I have to wonder why, but I guess the true reason is simply for dramatic effect.

[Mobey Wee]

Pretty much that. He could turn a whole planet into consumable energy, but he needs the machines to be able to properly funnel it all to him. Either too much energy is lost without it or it isn't processed efficiently enough for him to properly digest.

Of course, high level cosmic entity that he is, I have to wonder why, but I guess the true reason is simply for dramatic effect.

cosmic heartburn's a bitch, that's why!

[paki]

The Sub-Mariner

I mean he is Marvel's 1st superhero and has no official monthly comic

[Sharkerbob]

cosmic heartburn's a bitch, that's why!

I remember the Impossible Man nearly killed him by letting him eat Poppup, a "cosmically" unstable planet.

[Sharpandpointies]

This is someone who sends his Heralds around when he could just program some drone to find the planet, and who travels in a ship despite the fact that he can teleport.

It's all about laziness.:tongue:

Point.


Of course, high level cosmic entity that he is, I have to wonder why, but I guess the true reason is simply for dramatic effect.

I'm going with Siriel's answer: laziness.

...or bad gas. Could be either.

[yeoman]

I would say Power Pack. Course, they don't get much attention despite a recent rival, but especially back in the 80's, they were one of the better, and more creative, comics out there.


And the Energizer/Destoryer power set is still one of the most sick powerful powers in comics. Seriously, matter/energy absorbtion and storage for later use as energy blasts. The only thing that kept that from being the single most abused power in comics was they gave it to a kindergardner.

Given that they've aged a good deal since the book was cancelled (Going by Julie's appearences in Runaways) I'd really like to see Marvel check back in with them, even if only individually.

[Gumbo Maximillian]

Back to the original subject; one underused/under rated character is "The X-cutioner".

He's got a cool look and the idea behind what he does is actually kind of solide, I mean, there has to be somebody to bring in the mutants when they cross the line.

If he wasn't a psycho; or was, I think we are on to the second or third one by now, he would have a pretty good point.

[Gumbo Maximillian]

Point.



I'm going with Siriel's answer: laziness.

...or bad gas. Could be either.

Maybe boredom?

I mean he hangs out in space most of the time doing what, observation and flying around? There is very few times he is really challenged or even needs to do anything.

Coming down to a planet in a weakened state, not paying attention to what they are doing and taking an excessively long time to work on his machines maybe his way of letting them take a shot at him or try to come up with something to stop him as a form of etertainment or sport.

Sure he could probably do his planet eating smarter but then what would he have to look forward to?

[yeoman]

The ultimate nullifier is kinda sensitive. Throwing power around when it is deployed with someone's finger on the trigger is a nonzero chance of total catastrophic fucking ups happening. Or just throwing power around it generally. One does not want to set off the universe killing weapon.

BAH! We've seen what happens when you press it. You end up playing Baseball against Galactus.




What? I don't care if Marvel Adventures Avengers isn't canon for 616, it's more awesome and thus takes precedence in my person canon.

[Sharkerbob]

And the Energizer/Destoryer power set is still one of the most sick powerful powers in comics. Seriously, matter/energy absorbtion and storage for later use as energy blasts. The only thing that kept that from being the single most abused power in comics was they gave it to a kindergardner.

And I liked that they actually explored the potential psychological consequences of that, too.


Given that they've aged a good deal since the book was cancelled (Going by Julie's appearences in Runaways) I'd really like to see Marvel check back in with them, even if only individually.

Well, they have been putting out mini-series about them (usually team-ups), casting them back as kids with the original power designations. As kids comics, they're pretty good, would convert easily into a great cartoon, but they don't have the intellect/maturity of the original series. But yeah, as far as 616 goes, it'd be nice to see how more of them turned out. I know they had a retcon at one point, so who knows what version they'd cannonize.

[yeoman]

Well, they have been putting out mini-series about them (usually team-ups), casting them back as kids with the original power designations. As kids comics, they're pretty good, would convert easily into a great cartoon, but they don't have the intellect/maturity of the original series. But yeah, as far as 616 goes, it'd be nice to see how more of them turned out. I know they had a retcon at one point, so who knows what version they'd cannonize.

Eh, the Marvel Adventure mini's were a lot of fun. Totally not canon, but a lot of fun. The original series, while well written, could get kinda dark.

[Sharkerbob]

Eh, the Marvel Adventure mini's were a lot of fun. Totally not canon, but a lot of fun. The original series, while well written, could get kinda dark.

Well, right, that's what I was driving at. Each is good, they just have a different focus.

[T-1000]

Squirell girl is on their team.

And? But? So? Therefore what?

The running joke of Squirrel Girl aside, I stand by my statement.

[Wavemaninawe]

I always thought Forge was undersused/underdeveloped.

Here is a guy who has the intuitive ability to build whatever the heck he pleases in terms of engineering and mechanical/electronic design... said ability has been left open ended. None the less, he has spent most of his time hanging around a stale hangar running maintainence on the X-Jet. Add to that his status as a heavyweight sorcerer capable of taking down cosmics, except he never uses his magical training due to a plot device.

I suppose if he was cut loose, Reed Richards would be kind of redundant.

[shadowsetaq28]

Dr.Samson and Ant Man

[nervmeister]

The Incredible Hulk is the most underrated one there is!