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Emerald Ghost
04-17-2005, 03:30 PM
You're taking a shower, and realize you can control water. You are a mutant. Would you go with Professor X, Magneto, or Apocalypse, assuming each approaches you?

Ant-Man
04-17-2005, 03:32 PM
I would go with whoever paid the most money.

Emerald Ghost
04-17-2005, 03:35 PM
I would go with whoever paid the most money.

Mr. Sinister, probably. Should have added him as well...

Titanium
04-17-2005, 03:41 PM
Xavier's likely to get you killed.
Magneto's likely to get you killed.
Sinister's likely to kill you after torturing you in his lab.
Appocalypse will treat you well as long as you are strong.

Sir_Hawkeye
04-17-2005, 03:45 PM
I would have to say Xavier's because I couldn't deal with killing innocent people. I also would do this because he could best teach me to use my powers and I would be a soldier kinda. Although if Magneto wasn't on his kill humans, world domination sprees he tends to go on occasionally (if he was nice and calm like he is now in Excalibur) I would go with him possibly.

Sion
04-17-2005, 03:50 PM
I would have to say Xavier's because I couldn't deal with killing innocent people. I also would do this because he could best teach me to use my powers and I would be a soldier kinda. Although if Magneto wasn't on his kill humans, world domination sprees he tends to go on occasionally (if he was nice and calm like he is now in Excalibur) I would go with him possibly.


Same here.

Emerald Ghost
04-17-2005, 03:50 PM
I would have to say Xavier's because I couldn't deal with killing innocent people. I also would do this because he could best teach me to use my powers and I would be a soldier kinda. Although if Magneto wasn't on his kill humans, world domination sprees he tends to go on occasionally (if he was nice and calm like he is now in Excalibur) I would go with him possibly.

The three magneto personalities.

1. Humans are evil! They should all be killed...before they kill us! You know they're thinking about it!

2. Humans are evil. Bah, leave them to kill themselves, I don't care. We'll be comfortable in this veritable mutant utopia over here alone by ourselves with no one else. ('till it's destroyed...lol)

3. I am willing to try Xavier's dream, perhaps I was wrong. By the way, I'm a nice guy, I've never done anything wrong. Do you really think me capable of trying to destroy the world? Puh leeeeze.

Just trying to help. :)

Emerald Ghost
04-17-2005, 03:51 PM
And to answer my own question.

Magneto. Yeah, it's evil, but if I were the underclass, threatened, killed, hated...yeah, Magneto's view would start to look very good at that point.

And it's fun to be the underdog.

Flight
04-17-2005, 04:04 PM
I'd become Apocalypse's aquatic bitch

RedNave
04-17-2005, 04:09 PM
Either Xavier or Magneto, depending on Magneto's current stance on basline humans.

Siddon
04-17-2005, 04:14 PM
Chuck Austen's dream


mmmmmm sex

Bryan Rios
04-17-2005, 04:20 PM
I'd go where the hotties are. And Xavier's seems like where most would be. And I SUPPOSE I'd want to learn how to best use my powers.

After that, though, I'm gone. =/

nubly
04-17-2005, 04:21 PM
screw all of them. i would approach mr wynn and get a job in one of his casinos

HellFrost
04-17-2005, 04:25 PM
Magnetos or Apocalypse. I've never been one to want to avoid fights(as some of you know). I also honestly agree with Magneto and think Xaviers "dream" will only ever work out in the end because these are comic books, and the heroes always win.

I've always been one to root for the Villian in most cases.

Emerald Ghost
04-17-2005, 04:25 PM
screw all of them. i would approach mr wynn and get a job in one of his casinos

Who is Mr. Wynn?

Zero Hunter
04-17-2005, 04:33 PM
More than likely Magneto. I think if I was a mutant and had to live with the constant fear of my own government sending their giant death machines after me just because i could do unuals things I would probaly become a very bitter man. I wouldn't be about killing inocent humans, but anyone involved in antimutant activitys would be fair game. That would mean the hate groups like Friends of Humanity, any milatary personel involved in covert ops against mutants, anyone who worked at Sentinial production facilities, and generaly anyone who was coming after me.

HellFrost
04-17-2005, 04:52 PM
More than likely Magneto. I think if I was a mutant and had to live with the constant fear of my own government sending their giant death machines after me just because i could do unuals things I would probaly become a very bitter man. I wouldn't be about killing inocent humans, but anyone involved in antimutant activitys would be fair game. That would mean the hate groups like Friends of Humanity, any milatary personel involved in covert ops against mutants, anyone who worked at Sentinial production facilities, and generaly anyone who was coming after me.
I do have to say if I had some type of choice I'd like to join the Hellfire club(assuning I'm wealthy in that world as well).

Atomic Mongoose
04-17-2005, 05:10 PM
So I'm in the shower and realize I have the ability to control water, and have the choice of siding with Xavier, Magneto, or Apocalypse?

Without a doubt, I'd go with Magneto.

Xavier strives towards attaining a dream. Magneto strives towards making the best of reality. I don't have the patience to sit around and "play nice" with the rest of the world, in hopes that they won't send a horde of Sentinels after me the moment my powers flare up and I accidentally bust open a fire hydrant.

Apocalypse strives toward total mutant domination of the planet, by weeding out the weak from the strong. The problem with that is there are FAR fewer "strong people" in the world than weak. It's why we have so few leaders and so many followers. Apocalypse's plan would just lead to us still being screwed, it's just that we'll be the dominant species when the sh*t hits the global fan and EVERYONE bites it.

I'm pretty much a Type-A personality, so Magneto would be the leader who is most appealing to me. I'd want what's entitled to me, and not have to compromise with anyone to get it. I'd probably be fine with doing some pretty crazy and fanatical things, as well. Not saying I'd be some cold-blooded human-killer, but given the situations the X-Men, Brotherhood, etc. have been in, I probably wouldn't have any problem with it.

atoningunifex
04-17-2005, 05:31 PM
I wouldn't go with either of them.

Both dreams are far too simplistic and limited. Xavier's dream of everyone all get along is so naieve as to be ridiculous. But Magneto's dream is sheer madness. Apocalypse doesn't have a dream. He just wants to be the biggest dick on the porn set.

In all likelihood I'd just go about living my life. If anything, I'd follow Kitty Pryde's idea- the one she had in X-Treme at the end of GLMKII. Camps and dreams and ideologies are fine and dandy. But both Xavier and Magneto set themselves apart in order to achieve their goals. There's something to be said for stayting in the thick of things and just living your life.

Flight
04-17-2005, 05:44 PM
In all likelihood I'd just go about living my life. If anything, I'd follow Kitty Pryde's idea- the one she had in X-Treme at the end of GLMKII. Camps and dreams and ideologies are fine and dandy. But both Xavier and Magneto set themselves apart in order to achieve their goals. There's something to be said for stayting in the thick of things and just living your life. But you can CONTROL WATER!
You should be threatening people while they're in the bath for Lord Apocalypse!

atoningunifex
04-17-2005, 05:47 PM
But you can CONTROL WATER!
You should be threatening people while they're in the bath for Lord Apocalypse!

if they're in the bath they're already sitting in a tubful of their own dirt. That's punishment enough.

Besides which- Lord Apocalypse is b-o-r-i-n-g. All that prancing about talking about survival of the strongest and all that bunk and yet he ALWAYS loses.

Whatever.

Thondred
04-17-2005, 07:00 PM
No doubt about it, Xavier. To be a part of the X-Men alone would be a thing of beauty. To be taut to use my powers, within a wonderous mansion, by people you can respect and look up to, is a great thing. And what would the world be without the dreams that some claim as impossible? Granted, there will always be rascism and biggotry of some kind, but it is possible that some day the majority of the human race will wake up and stop being to cruel and stupid. Great dreams beget great achievements. History is full of just such examples, from the lunar landing, to Einsteins physics breakthroughs, to the inspirational run of Terry Fox way up here in Canada. Dream big to achieve big!

nubly
04-17-2005, 10:38 PM
Who is Mr. Wynn?

steve wynn. he owns some casinos in vegas. if i had a mutant power, i would try to get onstage and do some 'magic tricks' with it. make a nice living out of it

Bryan Rios
04-17-2005, 10:46 PM
Wait... control water? Psh, why can't it be something cool like uhh making plants and big trees grow or something? =/

Archer
04-17-2005, 10:54 PM
I'm not into that world domination thing, so no Apocalypse.

While I generally agree with Xavier's ideals, I absolutely could not agree with his claiming to be all about integration and loving humans, while at the same time hiding away behind costumes and masks and secret identities. I could follow Xavier's *dream*, but not his *actions*.

Fairly sane Magneto, believing that our minority needed to be protected, and that the majority couldn't be trusted . . . yes, I could certainly go with that.

Crazy, "I KEEL YOU ALL BEFORE YOU KEEL MEEEEEEE!!!" Magneto, I might end up hanging with simply to keep an eye on him.

Ideally though, I'd take the best of both worlds and move to Genosha :P

Rachel Grey
04-17-2005, 11:19 PM
Either Xavier or Magneto depending on how pissed off I am at the time.

Heh, and how pissed off Mags is at the time :p

pirulaso
04-17-2005, 11:25 PM
who would die faster? ripping the water outa magneto or magneto ripping iron outa the protagonist?

yeah i guess i would sign with magneto. gotta keep an eye on him. either that or xavier...

Go Go
04-17-2005, 11:33 PM
No one would first join up with SHIELD to be a double agent at one of the camps? But how would there ever be a "traitor" type storyline with where you went? Where would be the drama?

Master Darque
04-18-2005, 08:38 AM
I'm pretty much a Type-A personality, so Magneto would be the leader who is most appealing to me. I'd want what's entitled to me,
I'm curious as to what you feel you'd be entitled to in this world where you find you're an aqua-mutant .... as well as curious as to whether you feel entitled to something in this real world of ours . In any world , all you should be entitled to is life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness . Maybe follow the golden rule of treating people the way you'd wanna be treated . Make your own way as long as you aren't necessarily hurting others .

Guess I'm an obvious choice for Xavier's School ...... I believe in his dream ...I know that it'd never be a reality in my lifetime but maybe for my kids or grandkids ? It's worth fighting for .

Tre Styles
04-18-2005, 08:53 AM
More than likely, I'd go with Xavier's philosophy of mutant/human intergration. I would not wanted to be separate or segregated from the rest of society in Magneto's worldview, nor would I want all humanity to die as in Apocalypse's worldview(and sometimes Magneto's). I would fight for a world that would accept me as the person I am. And I think that through Xavier's dream that is possible. Sure, sometimes some of his methods I would question, just like any of his students were freely able to do(Cannonball, Kitty, Storm, etc...), and create my own unique version of the dream as many of his students would and are freely able to do. With Mags(not current, I know) and Apocalypse, it's their way or die. No thanks, I'd be chillin' in the mansion, but at the same time be friendly and social with humans and mutants alike.

Erik Lehnsherr
04-18-2005, 08:54 AM
Magneto of course. Everything he has ever said has come to reality. There was another mutant holocaust. Humans secretly DO want to work against mutants than work with them. And more than even that, as a mutant, your entitled. After all the pure hatred spewed at mutants for simply existing, how can I not join up with the great Magneto? He was right all along.

Tre Styles
04-18-2005, 08:58 AM
More than likely, I'd go with Xavier's philosophy of mutant/human intergration. I would not wanted to be separate or segregated from the rest of society in Magneto's worldview, nor would I want all humanity to die as in Apocalypse's worldview(and sometimes Magneto's). I would fight for a world that would accept me as the person I am. And I think that through Xavier's dream that is possible. Sure, sometimes some of his methods I would question, just like any of his students were freely able to do(Cannonball, Kitty, Storm, etc...), and create my own unique version of the dream as many of his students would and are freely able to do. With Mags(not current, I know) and Apocalypse, it's their way or die. No thanks, I'd be chillin' in the mansion, but at the same time be friendly and social with humans and mutants alike. Also, I'd like to add that in my view, I don't believe that Xavier is all that trusting of humanity, he is aware of the racists out there but he at least sees hope in the future.It's more than possible for me to follow his way.

Tobias March
04-18-2005, 12:10 PM
You're taking a shower, and realize you can control water. You are a mutant. Would you go with Professor X, Magneto, or Apocalypse, assuming each approaches you?

Well knowing my luck I imagine my water mutation would be quite messy :p Filled with anger, fear and resentment I imagine I would go along with Mags' whole 'your are a god among insects', schtick. Until the mortality rate kicked in of course :rolleyes:

Atomic Mongoose
04-18-2005, 01:26 PM
I'm curious as to what you feel you'd be entitled to in this world where you find you're an aqua-mutant .... as well as curious as to whether you feel entitled to something in this real world of ours . In any world , all you should be entitled to is life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness . Maybe follow the golden rule of treating people the way you'd wanna be treated . Make your own way as long as you aren't necessarily hurting others .

I would definitely feel a sense of entitlement to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Unfortunately, in the whole "mutant situation", that would need to be fought for more agressively. I also agree with Tobias March's post that brought up Magneto's "You are a God among insects" philosophy, which I'd believe is very true. If I am gifted and a cut above the rest, why should I let inferiors hold me back from getting what I want? Why should I hope for peaceful coexistence, when I can bypass all that social and political tip-toeing and just take what I want? You only live once, so I'd want to make damn sure I get the best out of life. How exactly I make that life for myself isn't so much a concern for me.

People forget that in the comicbooks, humans aren't necessarily the helpless victims that need to be protected from Magneto. Following the Golden Rule, as you put it, would be just fine and dandy, if I knew for certain that some backwoods redneck wasn't going to be elected into office and start manufacturing giant robot death machines to come blow my ass half way into orbit. Until then, I'd take my chances with Magneto and his more pro-active stance on attaining the American dream.

As for "Do I feel entitled to something in this real world of ours?", honestly, yeah I do. I feel that I am entitled to absolutely anything I work hard enough to attain. I don't feel a sense of entitlement in terms of "birthright" or any of that, but I feel that if I've earned something, then I'm entitled to it. If there's one type of person I absolutely cannot stand (not saying this is you :)), it is the type of person who is afraid to go after what they want, and content to just be mediocre. I feel like 9 times out of 10, these people hold me back, and hold back others like me. I've got no sympathy for people who settle for being Average Joe when they could be excellent at something, or achieve something others can't.

Crimson
04-18-2005, 01:33 PM
I'd probally do a Colossus... follow Professor X at first but after years of seeing human hate mutants make a switch to Magneto.

Nightcrawler
04-18-2005, 02:20 PM
Maybe Apocolypse. After we take over the world, I get some land.

YoungG03
04-18-2005, 02:49 PM
Magneto is cool but he dies all the time and the people he hangs with usually are too shady (From Fabian to Toad)

Charles is cool and all but do I really want to keep risking my life for something I KNOW that has to be? It never gonna change....The only reason I hang wit Charles is because I be thinking Im a officer or something. Anyway;; I dont actually have to be a Xmen...Im sure theres things I can do....Shit join the Avengers or something.

Ill kill Apocalpse first chance I get cause he would do it. Beside what makes him any better.


But are these the only choices...and Im not even considering Sinister unless he tricks me.

I really see me being in S.H.E.I.L.D or Avengers though. That way I try to lead by example...Hopefully I want be an OJ or something But what Cable whole cause and such...And aint nobody want to be a Morlock type?

Jack Flash
04-18-2005, 03:02 PM
honestly, i'd most likely follow Emma Frost's early credo of making money and protecting myself. then once I had established myself as safe and wealthy, donate to both causes.

Master Darque
04-18-2005, 03:11 PM
As for "Do I feel entitled to something in this real world of ours?", honestly, yeah I do. I feel that I am entitled to absolutely anything I work hard enough to attain. I don't feel a sense of entitlement in terms of "birthright" or any of that, but I feel that if I've earned something, then I'm entitled to it. If there's one type of person I absolutely cannot stand (not saying this is you ), it is the type of person who is afraid to go after what they want, and content to just be mediocre. I feel like 9 times out of 10, these people hold me back, and hold back others like me. I've got no sympathy for people who settle for being Average Joe when they could be excellent at something, or achieve something others can't.

I am answering what I underlined in your quote :
Would you feel entitled to the love of another just because you worked hard in an effort to attain it ?

Yeah , I understsand if you earned it , you're entitled to it . I feel I earned every penny of my check every week ... why am I paying taxes ?

The only person that can truly hold you back , my friend ....is you .

I have a feeling you and I would be squaring off when the Professor sent a team to stop Magneto's plans ..... I think I'd look in your eyes and see someone I could have been friends with ....

Comic book-ly speaking . As it is , you and me could go have a beer irl and argue the mutant stance !

The Pizza Man
04-18-2005, 04:05 PM
I'd hang with Xavier till we got to the savage land which is bound to happen at some point. Then I'd wander out into the snow covered part and turn all the snow and ice into its liquid state and flood most of the world :D

Emerald Ghost
04-18-2005, 04:09 PM
I'd hang with Xavier till we got to the savage land which is bound to happen at some point. Then I'd wander out into the snow covered part and turn all the snow and ice into its liquid state and flood most of the world :D

Stay away from Bobby, he likes to pull pranks...

Archyduke
04-18-2005, 05:44 PM
I'd tell everyone I was bitten by a radio-active bubble or bombarded with cosmic streams of water and become a media idol. Screw this whole "world that fears and hates me" business...

Edit: Or, if I *had* to be honest about my origins, the X-Statix approach :D. Sure, they had a pretty high mortality rate, but at least they didn't slouch around wallowing in self-pity most of the time. Well... at least not *all* of the time....

HellFrost
04-18-2005, 06:57 PM
honestly, i'd most likely follow Emma Frost's early credo of making money and protecting myself. then once I had established myself as safe and wealthy, donate to both causes.
You are AWESOME! That's exactly what I figured when I said I'd join the Hellfire club.

And Hydro/Aquakinesis isn't useless, think about the possibilities :D

Neolucifer
04-18-2005, 06:59 PM
I'd stick around deadpool !! that is if i'm really resistant , or got a healing factor :D .

slively
04-18-2005, 08:31 PM
I'd open up a water park and name it wet-n-lively! :D

MrBiggs7
04-19-2005, 01:10 AM
I'd kick it with the Xmen just for the hotties. Nugga nugga nootch!

Bryan Rios
04-19-2005, 01:15 AM
I'd kick it with the Xmen just for the hotties. Nugga nugga nootch!
YES! Now THAT is what it's all about!

Tobias March
04-19-2005, 11:44 AM
Well knowing my luck I imagine my water mutation would be quite messy :p Filled with anger, fear and resentment I imagine I would go along with Mags' whole 'your are a god among insects', schtick. Until the mortality rate kicked in of course :rolleyes:

This is how I reckon it would go - Tobias March wakes up one morning and panics when he discovers his body is covered with a sticky substance :rolleyes: Running to the shower he tries to wash, but finds that instead the gellatin sheathe about his body has begun to catch the beads of water, until his body appears to be covered with carbuncle-like growths. These are sacs of condensed water under extreme pressure from the substance encasing them and over time pop explosively. Learning how to at first sling them over a distance, or use them to explode concussively within close quarters, Tobias goes on the run only to fall in with Magneto's Brotherhood. Unfortunately being a member of a team where Toad has an even higher status than you becomes galling after a while and Tobias is forced to go it alone after a few years....wandering off into the wilderness :(

HellFrost
04-19-2005, 01:45 PM
This is how I reckon it would go - Tobias March wakes up one morning and panics when he discovers his body is covered with a sticky substance :rolleyes: Running to the shower he tries to wash, but finds that instead the gellatin sheathe about his body has begun to catch the beads of water, until his body appears to be covered with carbuncle-like growths. These are sacs of condensed water under extreme pressure from the substance encasing them and over time pop explosively. Learning how to at first sling them over a distance, or use them to explode concussively within close quarters, Tobias goes on the run only to fall in with Magneto's Brotherhood. Unfortunately being a member of a team where Toad has an even higher status than you becomes galling after a while and Tobias is forced to go it alone after a few years....wandering off into the wilderness :(
that's... gross, but kinda sad :(

1HELLBOY
04-19-2005, 03:16 PM
I'm torn between Xavier and Magneto.

One side of me says "Give peace a chance," the other side of me says "KILL THE HUMAN SCUM, MAKE WAY FOR HOMO SUPERIOR!!" So you see my predicament.

Knightmare
04-19-2005, 04:29 PM
I'd have to go with Xavier's dream. Despite the fact that it is and most always will be nothing more than a dream that doesn't mean it's not worth pursing.And I'd rather chase a dream then just accept what reality has laid out. And I'm really about peace and all that, which is what made Xorn appeal to me so much.


Magneto is really just a guy struggling with the horridness he witnessed as a child but fails to realize that he is doing exactly the same. ( Was anyway.) I can understand his other goal of a possible Mutant utopia--but that is really as far away a dream as Xaviers. Utopia implies perfection, and regardless of if it came into existence, the exact same things would occur among mutants as did humans.

As for Apocalypse--screw that megalomaniac. he's was alive how many thousands of years and he's done what exactly. I men how long can it take an all powerful mutant to take over the world. Not to mention there's no purpose behind it. At least Magneto has a real motive and doesn't just run his mouth about Survival of the Fittest.

Bishop_Proudstar
04-19-2005, 06:20 PM
Remember that dumb crap that Cable was the connection between Xavier's and Magneto's dreams?

rogueslayer14
04-19-2005, 06:33 PM
I would go with Xavier's dream because I want to fight on the side of good.

DDM
04-19-2005, 06:59 PM
I would go with whoever paid the most money.

Hellfire Club?

DDM
04-19-2005, 07:03 PM
I would use my mutant power to make profit & become independently wealthy. However, I would disavow that I'm a mutant in public & swear that I'm just using special effects to enhance my show.

Personally, I would rather have the mutant power of telepathy.

Going this route would lead me to Hellfire Club, far away from either Xavier or Magneto's dreams.

HellFrost
04-19-2005, 08:23 PM
Personally, I would rather have the mutant power of telepathy.

Going this route would lead me to Hellfire Club, far away from either Xavier or Magneto's dreams.
Agreed. Telepathy is my favorite power in all of Marvel, and the Hellfire club, likes its telepaths.

Erik Lehnsherr
04-20-2005, 02:59 AM
Let's face it, Magneto= GOAT. How can you not follow him?