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HellFrost
04-15-2005, 08:56 PM
Hey guys,

I was noticing that there wasn’t a thread dedicated to the Hellions so I decided to compile a list of all the Hellions (not that there were that many).

Hellions I
Thunderbird
Catseye
Jetstream
Empath
Poulette
Beef
Bevatron
Tarot
Magma

Hellions II
King Bedlam
Tarot
Paradigm
Switch
Feral
Magma

NXAX: Hellions
Hellion
Mercury
Tag
Rockslide
Dust
Wither
Icarus(I guess he counts)

Whos your favorite, who had the coolest powers, who is your least favorite, whats your opinion on them, and why? If you want, you can list your favorites from each group as well.

I personally loved Catseye the most. She was adorable, and her and Rahne(my favorite New Mutant) had the cutest friendship. She always made me smile when she talked and her death actually made me really upset. I personally think they should bring her back somehow. They did after all do that with Tarot, another great character from the Hellions.

I also really like Cessily(Mercury) the most in NXAX too. She is a great character and has a lot of potential to be even better. Her brother/sister relationship with Julian(Hellion) is really great and could lead into lots of conflict. what do you guys think.

xmanson
04-15-2005, 09:01 PM
I liked Empath... he was Emma's perfect "offspring"....

HellFrost
04-15-2005, 09:06 PM
I liked Empath... he was Emma's perfect "offspring"....
Lol. He would have been the perfect son for her. I liked him a lot too. Whatever really happened to him? I can't remember the last time I saw him in a book.

xmanson
04-15-2005, 09:09 PM
Lol. He would have been the perfect son for her. I liked him a lot too. Whatever really happened to him? I can't remember the last time I saw him in a book.

He was in X-Treme X-Men, working at X-Corp LA.

Really, maybe somwday it'll be revealed Emma is his real mother...

Archer
04-15-2005, 09:10 PM
Empath rocked. Really terrifying powers, too.

HellFrost
04-15-2005, 09:13 PM
He was in X-Treme X-Men, working at X-Corp LA.
Really!?!?!? wow... so he's like a good guy now...?

Really, maybe somwday it'll be revealed Emma is his real mother...Lol. Yes, Emma made love to a spanish sex god working as a stripper at one of the Hellfire clubs parties for the upperclass women of society, while she was drunk from drinking too many glasses of red wine. I can see it now. ;) :D :evilsmile

HellFrost
04-15-2005, 09:16 PM
Empath rocked. Really terrifying powers, too.
His powers were kinda creepy. Another level of telepathy that solely deals with emotion. Nick(PhoenixboyX) always says it's ridiculous that he was able to control them, but I figure it is all because of the high levels of infatuation he'd make his victims feel for him that he could simply manipulate their actions by telling them how to act, and they'd enjoy doing it for him... wow... that isn't just creepy, it's dirrty ;)

xmanson
04-15-2005, 09:18 PM
His powers were kinda creepy. Another level of telepathy that solely deals with emotion. Nick(PhoenixboyX) always says it's ridiculous that he was able to control them, but I figure it is all because of the high levels of infatuation he'd make his victims feel for him that he could simply manipulate their actions by telling them how to act, and they'd enjoy doing it for him... wow... that isn't just creepy, it's dirrty ;)

His powers are really good. He was a great and menacing enemy that just kinda faded away... really... they don't make evil anymore like they used to...

HellFrost
04-15-2005, 09:20 PM
His powers are really good. He was a great and menacing enemy that just kinda faded away... really... they don't make evil anymore like they used to...
Lol. I agree, but did he really ever best Emma with his powers? I know he tried using them on her once, but she overcame it and stuff. I know they really started to hate eachother towards the end too, which is another really good conflict in a mother son relationship.

Archer
04-15-2005, 09:23 PM
His powers were kinda creepy. Another level of telepathy that solely deals with emotion. Nick(PhoenixboyX) always says it's ridiculous that he was able to control them, but I figure it is all because of the high levels of infatuation he'd make his victims feel for him that he could simply manipulate their actions by telling them how to act, and they'd enjoy doing it for him...

Controlling someone's emotions is no more far fetched than controlling their thoughts . . . especially as emotions are much more powerful motivators than thoughts. That's kind of the *point* of emotions, heh. All evil telepaths are super-creepy (if you don't believe me, read the awesome X-Manson fanfic!) - but Empath being so young, and so totally casual about his manipulation of people, that just about quadrupled the scary factor.

As a big Magneto fan (gee, you think anyone noticed?) I also love how comprehensively Empath was able to screw with his head in New Mutants :)

wow... that isn't just creepy, it's dirrty ;)

Yeah, the stuff with Sharon and Tom round NM 39 or so, that just made me blink repeatedly and re-read over and over . . . he had them screwing each other half to death for a bit of a laugh, how the hell did that get past the Comics Code? :D :D

PhoenixBoyX
04-15-2005, 09:26 PM
I'm voting Catseye...she was so damn cute!
-Nick

HellFrost
04-15-2005, 09:29 PM
Yeah, the stuff with Sharon and Tom round NM 39 or so, that just made me blink repeatedly and re-read over and over . . . he had them screwing each other half to death for a bit of a laugh, how the hell did that get past the Comics Code? :D :D
Lol. But, poor Catseye, she was so nice, and I loved her... and she had purple hair... not sure what that has to do with anything but it was purple. :o

xmanson
04-15-2005, 09:31 PM
Lol. I agree, but did he really ever best Emma with his powers? I know he tried using them on her once, but she overcame it and stuff. I know they really started to hate eachother towards the end too, which is another really good conflict in a mother son relationship.


That's why i love continuity so much - the characters have a history together. But it's so easy to forget everything. They could do an Unlimited issue where they are reunited.

HellFrost
04-15-2005, 09:35 PM
That's why i love continuity so much - the characters have a history together. But it's so easy to forget everything. They could do an Unlimited issue where they are reunited.
OMG, they so should!!!!

I miss them so much. It's so unfair that so many loveable character(in my opinion) got killed. *thinks of poor Catseye... tear*

But how would they do it? Since they are dead, they would have to make up some exuce... I guess they could use the King Bedlam excuse they used for Tarot. And then they could like, so join together and take over the world. :p :D :evilsmile

Twigglet
04-16-2005, 05:26 AM
I bought the NXM:AX trade a few weeks ago, and I love love love Tags power, for some reason I think it's awesome.

Tre Styles
04-16-2005, 04:06 PM
Hellions I
Catseye
Jetstream
Empath
Tarot
Magma

Hellions II
King Bedlam
Tarot
Paradigm
Magma

NXAX: Hellions
Hellion
Mercury
Dust
Wither


These are my favorites from each group. I really like Catseye, Tarot, Magma, and King Bedlam the most. King Bedlam was a evil SOB, but he was a cool one. And he has style. Not many can stand up to Emma Frost. It would be fun to see him and Empath team up.(Hey, maybe Empath is making everyone around him THINK he's on the side of good now... :evilsmile )The newest Hellions, I think I like Mercury and Hellion the best. It's their personalities. And Wither I just like because of his mad potential....

xmanson
04-16-2005, 04:35 PM
OMG, they so should!!!!

I miss them so much. It's so unfair that so many loveable character(in my opinion) got killed. *thinks of poor Catseye... tear*

But how would they do it? Since they are dead, they would have to make up some exuce... I guess they could use the King Bedlam excuse they used for Tarot. And then they could like, so join together and take over the world. :p :D :evilsmile


I was talking about reuniting Emma and Empath.

But for the rest of them , a flashback would be nice.

crystalline green
04-17-2005, 02:59 PM
Finally a Hellions thread! :D

I really miss the original team. Of them all I think Catseye, Roulette, and Thunderbird were my favorites. Catseye because she was just adorable and an extremely sympathetic character. I thought she had a lot of depth and potential that was tragically thrown out the window due to her untimely demise. Roulette I liked, not so much for her personality, but because I thought her powers were very cool, but I have a soft spot for all the luck manipulating mutants anyway. :) And Thunderbird was cool because he was just hot. I thought Mr. Proudstar was at his handsomest before he bulked up. He had leadership potential also which I don't recall being explored since.

Of the current team I think Julian is easily my favorite. He is probably the most developed character on the team so far, but I'm looking forward to learning more about the others. I think its novel to see a badboy who's also charismatic enough to be a leader instead of just being a rebel upstart.

The Lucky One
04-17-2005, 08:37 PM
Empath was a terrific villain... always surprised no one did more with him. (In canon, anyway... the justifiably classic Kid Dynamo really fleshed him out pretty well.) What he did to Tom and Sharon was truly sick, and I'm really surprised Claremont was able to get away with it. (For those unaware, he made them so overcome with animal lust that they nearly screwed each other to death over a period of days out in the wilderness.)

Speaking of non-canon Hellions stuff, I remember a Generation X novel by Scott Lobdell that involved the supposed ghosts of the Hellions starting to appear on campus... turned out to be D'Spayre, but it was pretty cool.

-D

xmanson
04-17-2005, 08:54 PM
Empath was a terrific villain... always surprised no one did more with him. (In canon, anyway... the justifiably classic Kid Dynamo really fleshed him out pretty well.) What he did to Tom and Sharon was truly sick, and I'm really surprised Claremont was able to get away with it. (For those unaware, he made them so overcome with animal lust that they nearly screwed each other to death over a period of days out in the wilderness.)

Speaking of non-canon Hellions stuff, I remember a Generation X novel by Scott Lobdell that involved the supposed ghosts of the Hellions starting to appear on campus... turned out to be D'Spayre, but it was pretty cool.

-D

Isn't there an Annual like this? Adaptation of the book?

Archer
04-17-2005, 09:52 PM
Just want to second the Kid Dynamo love. It's a great read.

The Lucky One
04-17-2005, 11:37 PM
Isn't there an Annual like this? Adaptation of the book?


Yeah, from what I've heard, they did later adapt the book into an annual. Leaving a lot of stuff out, of course, like Synch and Skin's road trip to Boston and the new student, Statis.

-D

Sandoz
04-18-2005, 07:05 PM
I'm a big fan of the Hellions, past and present. Empath is one of my favorite X-characters of all time; his power is quite interesting and he himself was delightfully twisted. I totally love the idea of Empath coming back to the Institute to see Emma again. Who knows, maybe he could give Laurie a hand with her own emotion-manipulating power. (And wouldn't Dani have a great reaction to that. :evilsmile )

As for the modern-day Hellions, I really like Julian. I'm curious as to where his relationship with Sofia will go, and I'm glad he'll be in the spotlight in the upcoming Hellions mini-series.

Matthew K.
07-27-2006, 05:48 PM
Hey guys,

I was noticing that there wasn’t a thread dedicated to the Hellions so I decided to compile a list of all the Hellions (not that there were that many).

Hellions I
Thunderbird
Catseye
Jetstream
Empath
Poulette
Beef
Bevatron
Tarot
Magma


Whos your favorite, who had the coolest powers, who is your least favorite, whats your opinion on them, and why? If you want, you can list your favorites from each group as well.

I personally loved Catseye the most. She was adorable, and her and Rahne(my favorite New Mutant) had the cutest friendship. She always made me smile when she talked and her death actually made me really upset. I personally think they should bring her back somehow. They did after all do that with Tarot, another great character from the Hellions.

I also really like Cessily(Mercury) the most in NXAX too. She is a great character and has a lot of potential to be even better. Her brother/sister relationship with Julian(Hellion) is really great and could lead into lots of conflict. what do you guys think.

TheHellions Rock! (even if they were occassionally colored pink & purple they were still badass rivals for the New Mutants)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3893/screenshot2sw5.png (http://imageshack.us)

Outta the original, authentic, & best Hellions team Catseye & Proudstar stood out (Tarot & Firestar were also enjoyable, but I liked Catseye's character image and fun, innocent, & somewhat adventure-addicted personality & Thunderbird's sense of leadership loyalty & strength). Both Catseye & Tbird were offered membership with the good guys (Tbird with the X-Men, Catseye with the New Mutants), but turned down the offer to remain loyal to their Hellions buddies & teamates (even though it woulda be a nice what if, if Catseye did side with the New Mutants).

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4282/screenshot1gg3.png (http://imageshack.us)

It was of poor quality that Marvel would just "off" the whole Hellions team as such just to introduce a new, rather crummy vilain as "the next big threat" to the X-universe. We didn't see the whole team die on panel (only Jetstream, Beef, & the now currently revived Tarot--who bit the big one twice in two separate issues). In the next issue (UXM 282) I couldn't manage to pick out any familar Hellions gathered around Fritzroy, so I figured Catseye, Roulette, Empath & the rest (except for may be Bevatron) escaped. That seemed most plausible at the time, but then I heard fans saying the whole team was killed off & websites claimed that they were all dead.

Regardless, I didn't enjoy the Hellions demise either at the hands of that bastard Fritzroy, but in the new handbook it states that only Jetstream, Beef & Tarot were confirmed dead (& Tarot is now revived), while Catseye & Roulette aren't confimed & it's not known what happened to Bevatron. So, theoritically (fingers crossed) we could get us that Hellions reunion in an XM Unlimited book or something similar! :D

About the newer Hellions tribe, Mercury & Hellion are my favorite characters (while Rockslide is good for a laugh). The both have killer designs & Mercury's power is kickass.

Haunt
07-27-2006, 06:30 PM
i wasn't a diehard fan of Beef or Bevatron but i would have liked for the original group to survive. we never did get to see Catseye's rumoured genius-level intelligence.

p.s. i truly wish that the latest New Mutants series had been about Xavier and Emma's competing schools; with Julian, Mercury, and such being housed at the Massachusetts Academy.

rilokyle
07-27-2006, 06:50 PM
Finally! A Hellions-love thread!!

The original Hellions were such a cool group of kids. I liked how their rivalry with the New Mutants turned into a quasi-friendship of sorts. Catseye and Wolfsbane made great friends, both coming from similar backgrounds, and having similar powers.

Chris really wrote such great personalities from the Hellions, and I think a lot of present villain teams really lack such depth.

Like aforementioned, I really liked Catseye. She didn't understand why she had to fight with the New Mutants when she considered them her friends, and the fact that she learned how to read, write, and speak in a matter of months is astounding.

I also really liked Tarot. She had such a unique power, and I always wanted to know who she had a crush on- I think it was Cypher.

Roulette was also cool- she was more of a devious party girl, but she too had a cool power.

Oh, and Magma- just plain awesome. She needs to be used more today because she is such a complex and interesting character.

I didn't like how they were killed off so out of the blue, and little was made of their death in the aftermath. I mean, Uncanny X-Men 314 is an amazing issue (when Emma learns her students are all dead), but after that, there wasn't much mention of them. Even when Empath and Tarot were revealed to be alive, I would have liked to see Emma reuinite with them. Especially Tarot- I mean, she came back randomly for 4 issues and disappeared without so much as a reason why she was resurrected in the first place. I'd like some closure with that.

But yeah, I heart the Hellions. :D

Frank
07-27-2006, 06:59 PM
Tarot was great.

And my favorite was Jetstream. Such a great look! A better rocket man than Cannonball.

X-Factor
07-27-2006, 07:00 PM
My favorite is Hellion, followed by Tarot.

In all honesty the original Hellions were filler save Empath and the Y-Chromosomes of the lot.

The second were comprised of a mismatched team and a undesirable retcon. A fairly decent story came out of it I would admit that.

The third set is decent, but perhaps not well complimenting to each other. There's way too much of a center to Mr. Keller's personality that the others in a sense aren't all they could be in a different setting (or perhaps some are too dependent on his character).

Still, I think they are my favorite of the three.

If it were a poll I must give best power to obscure mutant Switch.

daniel2099
07-27-2006, 07:00 PM
I wonder tarot was there more to her ?
when she came back from the dead i though it might not be the
first time she returned

is she sill a mutant ?
where her card tricks her mutant power ?

they need a mysticy screw over mutant and since the fist magk is sill dead they can play tarot in that role

Haunt
07-27-2006, 07:20 PM
My favorite is Hellion, followed by Tarot.

In all honesty the original Hellions were filler save Empath and the Y-Chromosomes of the lot.

The second were comprised of a mismatched team and a undesirable retcon. A fairly decent story came out of it I would admit that.

The third set is decent, but perhaps not well complimenting to each other. There's way too much of a center to Mr. Keller's personality that the others in a sense aren't all they could be in a different setting (or perhaps some are too dependent on his character).

Still, I think they are my favorite of the three.

If it were a poll I must give best power to obscure mutant Switch.

i don't agree that the first team were filler; definately not anymore than the current New X-Men. and you're forgetting a Hellion team. Emplate had his own version of the Hellions (Murmur, Bulwark, Vincente, & a female whose name i can't remember). they would be the 3rd Hellions.

X-Factor
07-27-2006, 07:43 PM
i don't agree that the first team were filler; definately not anymore than the current New X-Men. and you're forgetting a Hellion team. Emplate had his own version of the Hellions (Murmur, Bulwark, Vincente, & a female whose name i can't remember). they would be the 3rd Hellions.

Filler was the wrong word. I think it was just a convenient match up to the New Mutants of that time and I think they deserve a little more credit than filler.

I liked Catseye much more than Rahne and wish she would've gotten more time spent on her. I never liked Magma even as a New Mutant and her later convultion by multiple writers made it much worst. Beef and Bevatron definitely weren't memorable though.

There is that unoffcially named group of Hellions. That would have to be my least favorite group, although Vincente and Emplate are good villains. I enjoyed seeing Bulwark depowered by Leech that was fun.

Answering the rest of the thread stater's questions, I'll make this post brief and just make a brief list with sub-tiers.

Hellions I
Tarot
Catseye
Empath
Roulette

Beef
Bevatron
Jetstream

Magma
Thunderbird

Hellions II
Tarot
Switch

Feral

Paradigm
Magma
King Bedlam

NXAX: Hellions
Hellion
Mercury
Dust

Tag
Rockslide

Wither
Icarus

Icarus I find boring. There's nothing standout about him and I am personally not a fan of certain families dominating the character population. Familiarity leads to contempt after all, and I fail to see the positives of having plenty Summers and Guthries.

Claremont or Bendis can dispose of them if they please (I kid).

xmanson
07-27-2006, 08:02 PM
Empath would kick the butt of all current Hellions together.

As I said, they don't make evil characters like they used to.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/xmanson/NewMutants026-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/xmanson/NewMutants026-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/xmanson/NewMutants026-14.jpg

Matthew K.
07-28-2006, 03:00 AM
Empath would kick the butt of all current Hellions together.
he didn't do a very good job of kicking anyone's butt when the New Mutants kidnapped him & then the Hellions got him back & scolded his sorry ass :p

Zombienorthstar
07-28-2006, 07:10 AM
Empath currently is a great character...watching him use his powers to console Magma over the death of her boyfriend in the 198 was really interesting. It showcased how while hes not evil...hes willing to be abit manipulative to do the right thing occasionally. i always prefer shades of grey to black and white

id rather Emma not actually be his mother....but definetley play up the mother/son relationship...which is just asinteresting.

Metallurgique
07-28-2006, 07:54 AM
I agree, Empath is a really interesting character. Early on, he was very one-sided. Evil, Evil, Evil. But later on, he very much loved for Magma and wanted to stay with her no matter what. When Nova Roma was first revealed to be a lie, he lost everything - including Amara, who now believed she was Alison. As we now know, via retcon, Nova Roma was real and Empath was trying to preserve it (albeit unwittingly).

He tried a couple of times to reconcile with Alison before wandering off into Limbo at the end of "Child's Play." Then he was back with X-corps, pretty much as a good guy.

Emma's manipulation of Firestar and Catseye may mean that Empath, in the early days, was under heavy influence by Emma. Sure, there's that scene between him and Emma where he gets a psychic beat-down, but I don't think Manny is was evil as he seemed at the time.

He's got alot of potential.

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I loved the original Hellions, although I did not care for later additions Bevatron and Beef (especially Beef, who replaced long-time leader Warpath and was generally horrid). They were, of course, an imitation of the NM's, but they were the perfect foil for the NM's and their clashes were really involved, because you got the feeling that some of them would've been close friends were they not always put into the position of being on opposite sides.

I'd have liked to have seen Tarot and Doug get together. This was long hinted at but it never happened.

Catseye, Tarot, Roulette, and Thunderbird/Warpath were my favorites from that group.

Among the "new Hellions" Dust and Mercury are my favorites.

Jack Flash
07-31-2006, 07:05 AM
i love the hellions. but you forgot about M-Plate's Hellions! They rocked too!

Golon9977
07-31-2006, 07:12 AM
I'm voting Catseye...she was so damn cute!
-Nick
Another one of Catseye. She has a lot of potential I thought and always wanted her to be a New Mutant so she may be spotlighted more. Her background got me curious. She was killed off panel so I am hoping they bring her back.

twilight
07-31-2006, 07:51 AM
I really like Thunderbird/Warpath and Hellion.
The smarmy little scag.

jester1436
07-31-2006, 02:37 PM
I love the original Hellions, it was a huge mistake when they offed them back in the day. That said, the recent Marvel handbook Hellions entry made it seem like the only definitely dead ones were Jetstream and Beef, which I found interesting. I'd love to see Catseye and Roulette return like Tarot did, though, you know, actually do something beyond one storyline.

fishtaco
07-31-2006, 03:14 PM
With the exception of Beef and Bevatron, I love the original Hellions. The Lucky One already pointed out how disturbingly sick Empath is, and Firestar #'s 1-4 just showed how manipulated they were. They were great foils to the New Mutants. I didn't think it was neccessary to kill off the Hellions to establish how threatening Trevor Fitzroy was, though. I'd have liked to have seen Tarot and Doug get together. This was long hinted at but it never happened. Yes, I remember Claremont hinting at that in New Mutants (1st Series) #53. There was another issue that revealed that Tarot was secretly in love with one of the New Mutants, but it was unclear which one. Which issue was this?

And let's not forget what happened with Cypher and Roulette!

Nyssane
07-31-2006, 04:44 PM
No love for Bevatron? I always liked the guy, even though he never really stood out. He was cute, though. So was Switch, who had to be the gayest villain since the Nasty Boys.

Matthew K.
07-31-2006, 05:50 PM
I love the original Hellions, it was a huge mistake when they offed them back in the day. That said, the recent Marvel handbook Hellions entry made it seem like the only definitely dead ones were Bevatron and Beef, which I found interesting. I'd love to see Catseye and Roulette return like Tarot did, though, you know, actually do something beyond one storyline.
As did I my friend. I couldn't agree more on the points you brought up about the New Handbook! :)

xmanson
07-31-2006, 06:20 PM
No love for Bevatron? I always liked the guy, even though he never really stood out. He was cute, though. So was Switch, who had to be the gayest villain since the Nasty Boys.


Who's Switch?

Nasty Boys... were so queer.

Kingrambo912
07-31-2006, 06:23 PM
Man Marvel needs to see this thread. as much as I am against bringing characters back from the dead, I too think these characters were robbed. At least Tarot, Empath, and Thunderbird are all around. It would be nice if there was a reunion among them and Firestar and Magma.
And speaking of Empath, it would be nice if he could be a teacher at the institute working with Hellion or some of the others.

Dioces
07-31-2006, 06:28 PM
I know they brought back Tarot in X-force awhile back, but did they ever explain why or how?

Haunt
07-31-2006, 07:26 PM
I know they brought back Tarot in X-force awhile back, but did they ever explain why or how?

they said that Christopher Aaronson brought her back to life. didn't make any sense though, since that's not his power. oh well, at least she's back. now i just need Catseye, Roulette, and Jetstream. i'm just curious to see what they'd look like; grown-up. and it'd be real easy to bring them back.

Roulette - she alters probabilities. i think she's lucky enough to not have been completely drained by Fitzroy.

Catseye - had genius level intelligence. maybe she just played dead and has 8 lives left.

Jetstream - was a cyborg thanks to Donald Pierce. maybe he had a failsafe program.

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on another note, Empath was 'evil' because Emma rewarded that behavior. she was training them all to be future members of the Inner Circle.

Matthew K.
07-31-2006, 07:27 PM
I know they brought back Tarot in X-force awhile back, but did they ever explain why or how?
according to wiki:

"It appears her resurrection and life force is somehow bound to King Bedlam, though this was never fully explained."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarot_%28comics%29

Nyssane
07-31-2006, 07:40 PM
Who's Switch?

From the second Hellions. He's the blond that often wears lipstick and has the power to swap bodies with others.

Matthew K.
07-31-2006, 07:42 PM
they said that Christopher Aaronson brought her back to life. didn't make any sense though, since that's not his power. oh well, at least she's back. now i just need Catseye, Roulette, and Jetstream. i'm just curious to see what they'd look like; grown-up. and it'd be real easy to bring them back.

Roulette - she alters probabilities. i think she's lucky enough to not have been completely drained by Fitzroy.

Catseye - had genius level intelligence. maybe she just played dead and has 8 lives left.

Jetstream - was a cyborg thanks to Donald Pierce. maybe he had a failsafe program.

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on another note, Empath was 'evil' because Emma rewarded that behavior. she was training them all to be future members of the Inner Circle.

Yeah, I want the team back together again too & the new handbook provides some hope :D

Haunt
07-31-2006, 08:31 PM
From the second Hellions. He's the blond that often wears lipstick and has the power to swap bodies with others.


and here's a link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_(comics)

and here's him looking like he might not be completely straight
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Mutants/S/Switch/IndexGraphic.jpg

protege
07-31-2006, 08:44 PM
Hey guys,

I was noticing that there wasn’t a thread dedicated to the Hellions so I decided to compile a list of all the Hellions (not that there were that many).

Hellions I
Thunderbird
Catseye
Jetstream
Empath
Poulette
Beef
Bevatron
Tarot
Magma

Hellions II
King Bedlam
Tarot
Paradigm
Switch
Feral
Magma

NXAX: Hellions
Hellion
Mercury
Tag
Rockslide
Dust
Wither
Icarus(I guess he counts)

Whos your favorite, who had the coolest powers, who is your least favorite, whats your opinion on them, and why? If you want, you can list your favorites from each group as well.

I personally loved Catseye the most. She was adorable, and her and Rahne(my favorite New Mutant) had the cutest friendship. She always made me smile when she talked and her death actually made me really upset. I personally think they should bring her back somehow. They did after all do that with Tarot, another great character from the Hellions.

I also really like Cessily(Mercury) the most in NXAX too. She is a great character and has a lot of potential to be even better. Her brother/sister relationship with Julian(Hellion) is really great and could lead into lots of conflict. what do you guys think.
From the first hellions, i would've liked to see tarot, Roulette, and Empath join the new mutants. Who were beef and bevatron again? I didn't know Feral was a hellion- and i don't know the others; Paradigm, Switch, and king bedlam.

Nyssane
07-31-2006, 09:02 PM
and here's a link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_(comics)

I wrote that. :) And I had him linked to the GLBT Comics characters, but someone took him off just because they obviously haven't read any issues with him in it.

I've always wondered if Empath was bisexual, though.

Matthew K.
07-31-2006, 09:09 PM
From the first hellions, i would've liked to see tarot, Roulette, and Empath join the new mutants. Who were beef and bevatron again? I didn't know Feral was a hellion- and i don't know the others; Paradigm, Switch, and king bedlam.
Beef & Bevatron were additions to the original Hellions team. They only had a handful of appearances with the Hellions team (Beef was added to replace Thunderbird; Bevatron replaced Firestar)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bevatron_%28comics%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_%28comics%29

Feral, Paradigm, Switch & KB were members of the villain team calling themselves the Hellions, which was formed much later.

I've always wondered if Empath was bisexual, though.

What led you to think that?

Nyssane
07-31-2006, 09:15 PM
What led you to think that?

I dunno, I just always wondered. I mean, with a power like that, you could do anything you wanted to anyone without the fear of being "labeled" or "judged." I mean, he must've experimented just a *smidgen* with the male gender. ;) That's like saying Madrox never did anything with his clones.

Haunt
07-31-2006, 09:51 PM
I wrote that. :) And I had him linked to the GLBT Comics characters, but someone took him off just because they obviously haven't read any issues with him in it.

I've always wondered if Empath was bisexual, though.

hmm. with Empath, i doubt it. given his no-boundaries-personality, we would know if he were that experimental. i think it more likely that he's a sexual sadist or something like that. speaking of that, i wonder whatever happened to Ms Steed from Hellfire Club London. :)

darkchambers
08-01-2006, 03:22 AM
Hellion is by far my favorite Hellion. He's a bad ass, and a jerk, and yet still lovable. He's one of those nice, rare characters that can lead a team and still get awat with being a jerk at times.

Next up is Empath, who is a gray character through and through. I love manipulative characters and he is by far one of the best and most interesting.

More favorites of mine are Warpath, Dust, Mercury and Magma.

Matthew K.
08-01-2006, 12:53 PM
I dunno, I just always wondered. I mean, with a power like that, you could do anything you wanted to anyone without the fear of being "labeled" or "judged." I mean, he must've experimented just a *smidgen* with the male gender. ;) That's like saying Madrox never did anything with his clones.
I don't know if that's a right on line comparision (Empath always seemed hot for Magma), but Madrox probably did have some mutual masterbation time with his friends...but with that power, who wouldn't ;)

fishtaco
08-01-2006, 02:05 PM
I know they brought back Tarot in X-force awhile back, but did they ever explain why or how?I'm not sure why everybody (including UXN.net) says that this was left unexplained, because if I recall correctly, it was. Tarot is bound by her cards, and because of one of them she must live her life again and again until she "gets it right". Something like that, I think. She explained it to Warpath (who at the time stopped using that name, but naturally decided to use it again when Feral cut Siryn's throat open) when she encountered him walking around San Francisco, in X-Force (1st Series) #87. The New Hellions story was awesome. Best part of Moore's X-Force run, in my opinion.

Kingrambo912
08-01-2006, 02:08 PM
I don't think it was her cards. I read these issues about two days ago and she said she was bound to Chris who helped nurse her back when she came back. She could not explain exactly why she was back, only that she had to make up for something.

fishtaco
08-01-2006, 02:16 PM
I don't think it was her cards. I read these issues about two days ago and she said she was bound to Chris who helped nurse her back when she came back. She could not explain exactly why she was back, only that she had to make up for something.hmmm, that may be right, but I'm nearly positive she said something about having to live her life again and again until she "gets it right", or something. I'm maybe a couple thousand miles away from my back issues at the moment, so I can't verify.

Zombienorthstar
08-01-2006, 02:50 PM
they said that Christopher Aaronson brought her back to life. didn't make any sense though, since that's not his power. oh well, at least she's back. now i just need Catseye, Roulette, and Jetstream. i'm just curious to see what they'd look like; grown-up. and it'd be real easy to bring them back.
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I think you can find the logic...King Bedlams powers were to disrupt the physical state...mostly mental....what if a disruption of death was to keep her alive....its a long shot but im all about the flimsy no prize attempts.

Dazzler
08-01-2006, 03:14 PM
Roulette is by far my favorite Hellion. That girls is bad bad bad. But not SOOOO bad. I just like her attitude (devil may care) and her powers. If anyone could escape the grisly fate of the Hellions, it's her.

Plus, i love Tarot and Catseye (*sigh*). Would have loved to see what Bevatron could do.

I have never, ever, understood why these characters with such rich potential were wasted so sadly.

--Dazz

DDM
08-02-2006, 09:01 AM
Lol. I agree, but did he really ever best Emma with his powers? I know he tried using them on her once, but she overcame it and stuff. I know they really started to hate eachother towards the end too, which is another really good conflict in a mother son relationship.

Empath was punished by the White Queen in The New Mutants #26 for his meddling with Firestar's emotions; she said Emmanuel ruined years of work in the space of a day as documented in Uncanny X-Men #193 & the results are Firestar's rebellion against Frost's mental conditioning in Firestar #1-4. Essentially, Empath is the catalyst for Firestar's breaking the White Queen's telepathic hold over Firestar which caused her to not to go through with the White Queen & Black King's plans: The assisignation of Selene, the new Black Queen of the Hellfire Club. As a result, Frost placed psionic inhibitors in Empath's brain keeping him from using his talent, yet that did not stop him from having Magma & Sunspot kidnapped to be part of the Shadow King's Gladiators. Empath said he had something planned for Emma Frost, the White Queen, but nothing is ever said of the plans afterward.

Empath did use his powers on the White Queen in The New Mutants #26; however, she easily countered his empath powers with her powerful telepathy.

The White Queen gave Empath an ultimatum: Either follow her or die.

Months later, the White Queen ordered Empath to manipulate Magneto into handing the New Mutants over to her Masschusettes Academy in The New Mutants #38-40.

Metallurgique
08-02-2006, 10:28 AM
He also manipulated Sharon and Tom at that time, in a very vile way. This led to him being "kidnapped" in return by Illyana and being basically given a beat-down by the NM's, and then later by Thunderbird/Warpath after his fellows "rescued" him. From that moment on, Manny was terrified of Illyana, much to her delight.

DDM
08-02-2006, 11:00 AM
He also manipulated Sharon and Tom at that time, in a very vile way. This led to him being "kidnapped" in return by Illyana and being basically given a beat-down by the NM's, and then later by Thunderbird/Warpath after his fellows "rescued" him. From that moment on, Manny was terrified of Illyana, much to her delight.

I love the New Mutants revenge on Empath in The New Mutants #43. Yes, Manny is truly terrified of Magik because he knows once in Limbo his powers are useless against her. I think Empath was also afraid of being permanently teleported to Limbo since he knew Magik would stay true to her word.

fishtaco
08-03-2006, 08:50 PM
I love the New Mutants revenge on Empath in The New Mutants #43. Yes, Manny is truly terrified of Magik because he knows once in Limbo his powers are useless against her. I think Empath was also afraid of being permanently teleported to Limbo since he knew Magik would stay true to her word.I like how she reminded him about this when she started dancing with him at the Hellfire Club party.

Novaya Havoc
08-03-2006, 09:18 PM
I'm all about the Tarot. I was so jazzed when they picked her up in X-Force, because she could really make an awesome, mysterious character with a more mystical power.

I really see the POTENTIAL in characters. In New Mutants? Tarot was kinda... well... lame. She, you know, made Tarot cards come alive. So what happens if you get, like, the two of pentacles? Two coins with pentagrams fall on Storm? You can only get "DEATH" so many times before it's kinda pointless. Otherwise, she was just some generic student in a pink leotard.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/01251--01500/01493.jpg

Yeah. An overhaul would be nice.

worstblogever
05-03-2008, 05:59 PM
Figured with those requesting for Hellfire Month, we do profiles of the Hellions as well...

Well, I didn't include them in those threads, because they're not technichally in the Hellfire Club.

However, I'm enough of a sport to at least do a search, and bump a Hellions thread up so they can be discussed.

Don't ask me when I'll get around to real profiles of them, though. I might need some time...

Dagger
05-03-2008, 07:01 PM
I'll help you out, WBE!!! I'll read up on all the original members, and any additions and create profiles on them! Even though I own most of their appearances, I wish they would just be retconned into being alive again!!!!

worstblogever
05-03-2008, 07:04 PM
I'll help you out, WBE!!! I'll read up on all the original members, and any additions and create profiles on them! Even though I own most of their appearances, I wish they would just be retconned into being alive again!!!!

Feel free to contribute in any way you feel necesarry. In a round-about way, this is your idea.

Dagger
05-03-2008, 07:09 PM
Feel free to contribute in any way you feel necesarry. In a round-about way, this is your idea.

Awesome I'm on it!

worstblogever
05-03-2008, 07:13 PM
Hellions Respect Thread


It’s still Hellfire Club Month… but it turns out that people are a-clamoring for the Hellions! Well, I suppose I can give them some recognition, too, in this existing thread.

Beef
Bevatron
Catseye
Empath
Jetstream
Magma
Roulette
Tarot
Thunderbird


And while I’m at it, I’ll mention

Firestar

who's not technichally a Hellion, but was around as well.

And when I’m done with all them… we can discuss the Hellions II team that turned up in X-Force under King Bedlam like that ONE time.

Feral
Jesse Bedlam (briefly!)
King Bedlam
Paradigm
Switch
and Magma and Tarot were back... but they have an entry w/ the originals...


And after that… well, let’s take a peek at the Academy X squad of Hellions.

Dust
Hellion
Icarus (at one time a member)
Mercury
Rockslide
Spectre (at one time a member)
Tag
Wither

ChristosSoter
05-03-2008, 07:22 PM
Thanks for making this, Hellfrost! I love it!

My favorites are Hellion and Roulette.

In terms of dead Hellions, Jennifer would be the easiest to bring back. We never actually saw her die, and her powers could have helped.

ChristosSoter
05-03-2008, 07:28 PM
Anole (never formally joined, but did switch tutors from Emma Frost to Northstar, so he could briefly be considered a member)

Emma was never Anole's advisor as far as I know. He chose Wolverine, then switched to Karma. Julian asked him to switch to Emma, but he said no. When the squad system was introduced, he was put on Northstar's squad. When Northstar died, Karma became his advisor yet again. Then M-day happed, and now he has no advisor.

Leirus
05-03-2008, 11:03 PM
Catseye would be the easiest to resurrect...

What if "She transformed into her cat form in the fight and, in panic, fleed the place of the deadpool... Traumatized having seen the burning corpses of her friends, she was unable to swith back into her human form... She lives now as a respetable purple house cat with tons of kittens"

Er, maybe without the last part. Would have been cute having Rahne found her in X-Factor... but now it is too late for this

I also got the impression from X-Force that Tarot could not really die, and she had to return to life every time in order to do the right thing. It gave her a misterious coolness of character with fate related powers

Dagger
05-04-2008, 12:54 AM
I'm going to do my first profile for the Hellions month, and I have decided to stick to the older class(aka my favorite class:tongue:)

For my first official entry into the Hellions bio is Beef.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03091.jpg

Real name: Buford Wilson
First appearance as a Hellion: New Warriors #9
Last appearance as a Hellion: Uncanny X-Men #281
Current status: Deceased
Powers : Augmented muscle mass gives him superhuman size, strength, endurance and resistance to physical injury.

Beef was recruited into the Hellfire Club after the defection of Thunderbird II to the New Mutants and later X-Force. In his first appearance, he and his fellow Hellions attacked the New Warriors home, and bested Silhouette and Tai.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03087.jpg
Getting into a contest with the New Warriors, he battled Namorita, and lost.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03088.jpg
In his second, and final appearance, Beef was attending a party being thrown by the White Queen, where the X-Men's Gold Team was invited, they were attacked and many Hellions were apparently killed by the Upstart, Trevor Fitzroy and a group of futuristic Sentinels. Beef met his demise after Fitzroy burst onto the scene and threw a drained Jetstream, he used his sophisticated body armor to hurl Beef from the Manhattan club the party was being thrown in through a couple skyscrapers and onto the street, where he plummeted to his death.

Any thoughts on the team's secondary powerhouse, aka the slab of meat, aka Beef?

worstblogever
05-04-2008, 01:34 AM
I'm going to do my first profile for the Hellions month, and I have decided to stick to the older class(aka my favorite class:tongue:)

For my first official entry into the Hellions bio is Beef.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03091.jpg

Any thoughts on the team's secondary powerhouse, aka the slab of meat, aka Beef?

Beef?

He's what's for dinner.

All joking aside... he was the generic enhanced strength and stamina powered guy. Which, considering the enhanced senses and (sometimes) flight that Warpath/Thunderbird II has... Beef's not an upgrade for the squad, but a downgrade.

That and he was pretty dull, personality wise.

Well, one more joke...
One of the things that keeps Emma Frost awake at night is Beef (you know, because the deaths of the Hellions haunt her). :redface:

ChristosSoter
05-04-2008, 07:03 AM
I didn't like Beef all that much. He had lame powers and not much of personality.

Dagger, will you do Roulette's bio next?

worstblogever
05-04-2008, 07:12 AM
I didn't like Beef all that much. He had lame powers and not much of personality.

Dagger, will you do Roulette's bio next?

I think we were going alphabetically through the originals, Christos.

Kage Kisaragi
05-04-2008, 07:17 AM
NXAX: Hellions
Hellion
Mercury
Tag
Rockslide
Dust
Wither
Icarus(I guess he counts)

Why? Well I didn't like the team as a whole, as they were the to put it simply "bad guys", they were on the same side as the new mutants but thanks largely to Hellion himself and his then all encompassing jerk aura. The rest of them came off as faithful badass followers. Especially Santos who I saw as Hellions personal muscle. He was like a big jock who you just knew was as about as he was small. (which is to say not very nice at all.)

Still, Mercury even then was a cool character to me, still love her. She was easily my favorite person on their team, afterwards came Dust. I think Wither would have been a good 3rd pick for me if he had stuck around.

HellFrost
05-04-2008, 07:18 AM
Hellions Respect Thread
Aw, thank you WBE, I wanted to bring this back for the HellFire month, but didn't know if people were going to hate on me for bumbing my own thread.:smile:
Thanks for making this, Hellfrost! I love it!

My favorites are Hellion and Roulette.

In terms of dead Hellions, Jennifer would be the easiest to bring back. We never actually saw her die, and her powers could have helped.
And you're welcome! Didn't know I was a huge Hellion's fan didja?

My personal favorite Hellion is probably... Hellion. I know I know, he's so knew and what not, but at the same time, he actually has potential to become something even greater. I really hate the fall-out that is happening between him and Emma but what are you gonna do. If he truly resented her, he'd choose another codename.

Second would have to be Catseye. She was by far my favorite and I loved her relationship with Rahne, my favorite New Mutant.

Third would have to be a tie between Tarot and Roulette. I created a thread (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=148961), awhile back, discussing how I would bring back Tarot (of course the thread was not exclusively Tarot-centric). I just hope that no one laughs at my art if anyone does check out the link I posted.

Of course, I pretty much love every single one of them, those I listed are just part of the over-all.
Catseye would be the easiest to resurrect...

What if "She transformed into her cat form in the fight and, in panic, fleed the place of the deadpool... Traumatized having seen the burning corpses of her friends, she was unable to swith back into her human form... She lives now as a respetable purple house cat with tons of kittens"

Er, maybe without the last part. Would have been cute having Rahne found her in X-Factor... but now it is too late for this

I also got the impression from X-Force that Tarot could not really die, and she had to return to life every time in order to do the right thing. It gave her a misterious coolness of character with fate related powers
I would LOVE for there to be a loop hole in Catseyes death. I miss her

And I kind of like the idea you have for Tarot.

I'm going to do my first profile for the Hellions month, and I have decided to stick to the older class(aka my favorite class)
I really appreciate what you're doing. I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone in here when I say, I hope you keep going. I think all the Hellion's need a nice little spotlight, and you did a fantastic job with Beef.

Any thoughts on the team's secondary powerhouse, aka the slab of meat, aka Beef?

Beef. I have to say that he doesn't compare to James, but he was still funny. I agree that he was a downgrade but I still really appreciate what he added to the team. I just wasn't crazy about his codename. lol

Beef?

He's what's for dinner.

All joking aside... he was the generic enhanced strength and stamina powered guy. Which, considering the enhanced senses and (sometimes) flight that Warpath/Thunderbird II has... Beef's not an upgrade for the squad, but a downgrade.

That and he was pretty dull, personality wise.

Well, one more joke...
One of the things that keeps Emma Frost awake at night is Beef (you know, because the deaths of the Hellions haunt her).

I agree with your points on Beef and believe he was created to be cannon fodder. I did like him a little still.

And LOL at the jokes.:biggrin:

HellFrost
05-04-2008, 07:27 AM
NXAX: Hellions
Hellion
Mercury
Tag
Rockslide
Dust
Wither
Icarus(I guess he counts)

Why? Well I didn't like the team as a whole, as they were the to put it simply "bad guys", they were on the same side as the new mutants but thanks largely to Hellion himself and his then all encompassing jerk aura. The rest of them came off as faithful badass followers. Especially Santos who I saw as Hellions personal muscle. He was like a big jock who you just knew was as about as he was small. (which is to say not very nice at all.)

Still, Mercury even then was a cool character to me, still love her. She was easily my favorite person on their team, afterwards came Dust. I think Wither would have been a good 3rd pick for me if he had stuck around.
The NX:AX Hellions were meant to be a foil for the New Mutants. What did you expect...?

I loved Hellions "jerk aura" and the leadership skills he possessed (and has seemingly lost to give another character ((a certain angry electric asian rebel girl (((one who most certainly did NOT deserve it!)))))).

They were not "bad guys" at any stretch. They were bullies. There's a difference.

worstblogever
05-04-2008, 07:36 AM
Aw, thank you WBE, I wanted to bring this back for the HellFire month, but didn't know if people were going to hate on me for bumbing my own thread.:smile:

And LOL at the jokes.:biggrin:

Hey, I resurrected this bad boy just to keep the Hellfire Club thread on topic! People were revolting, like "GRR! ARGH! Where be the Hellyuns!" Well, by people, I mean Dagger. :biggrin: Still, there were others, and the future HC members did deserve a little of the spotlight, too. 5 threads around all the HC and Hellions in a month still seems like a healthy amount.

And the jokes? Well, Beef's easy. Making a Bevatron joke, now THAT is hard.

pryde15
05-04-2008, 08:01 AM
Emma was never Anole's advisor as far as I know. He chose Wolverine, then switched to Karma. Julian asked him to switch to Emma, but he said no. When the squad system was introduced, he was put on Northstar's squad. When Northstar died, Karma became his advisor yet again. Then M-day happed, and now he has no advisor.

Wolverine? He had Northstar.

I believe they all had Northstar, but he was the only one who wouldn't switch.

pryde15
05-04-2008, 08:02 AM
I wish the Hellions were alive, they are really interesting characters and it would've been great to see them develop.

worstblogever
05-04-2008, 08:10 AM
Emma was never Anole's advisor as far as I know. He chose Wolverine, then switched to Karma. Julian asked him to switch to Emma, but he said no. When the squad system was introduced, he was put on Northstar's squad. When Northstar died, Karma became his advisor yet again. Then M-day happed, and now he has no advisor.

It seemed off, some *** entered that on Wikipedia. I should've totally known better, but I figured if it wasn't so, one of the many Anole fans would set me straight. Consider it one less profile that I'll do.

FemGeek
05-04-2008, 08:34 AM
Awww, i miss the Hellions this much (you probably can't see me gesturing). I don't care much for the New Xmen Hellion team, it's the oldschool team I miss. Especially Catseye.

Seikun21
05-04-2008, 09:54 AM
Wolverine? He had Northstar.

I believe they all had Northstar, but he was the only one who wouldn't switch.

No he started off with Wolverine, but we never saw them interact on panel. We just saw Victor run up to Karma and ask her to become his adviser because he and Logan didn't mesh well.

So when Julian switched from Northstar to Frost, Victor decided not to since he liked having Karma as his adviser. And then the squad system was formed and Victor was transferred to Northstar because Shan didn't have a squad.

And then Northstar died and Wolfsbane left the school, so she was given both the Paragons and Alpha Squadron.

Also I'm pretty sure Rockslide's first adviser was Iceman before he moved onto Emma, not Northstar.

lockerogue
05-04-2008, 10:19 AM
Wasn't Roulette like a big slut. Well anyway my favorite Hellions were of course the originals. Even though I sometimes hated Empath.

Dagger
05-04-2008, 12:28 PM
I didn't like Beef all that much. He had lame powers and not much of personality.

Dagger, will you do Roulette's bio next?
I feel ya, as she was my favorite female Hellion, but I'm doing them alphabetically. Don't worry though, I will do an extensive bio on the resident bitch of the Hellions!!
Beef?

He's what's for dinner.

All joking aside... he was the generic enhanced strength and stamina powered guy. Which, considering the enhanced senses and (sometimes) flight that Warpath/Thunderbird II has... Beef's not an upgrade for the squad, but a downgrade.

That and he was pretty dull, personality wise.

Well, one more joke...
One of the things that keeps Emma Frost awake at night is Beef (you know, because the deaths of the Hellions haunt her). :redface:
lol
I really appreciate what you're doing. I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone in here when I say, I hope you keep going. I think all the Hellion's need a nice little spotlight, and you did a fantastic job with Beef.
Don't worry. I loves me some Hellions, and plan on spotlighting my group for everyone's enjoyment! Plus it'll give WBE some time for him to focus on his grouping, since it was his idea to spotlight the Hellfire Club, and I just couldn't have a Hellfire month w/o the Hellions being represented:wink:


Beef. I have to say that he doesn't compare to James, but he was still funny. I agree that he was a downgrade but I still really appreciate what he added to the team. I just wasn't crazy about his codename. lol

I agree with your points on Beef and believe he was created to be cannon fodder. I did like him a little still.
Yeah, I agree too. I'm a little disappointed they didn't have a chance to flesh these guys out before they got the ax, but hey, ya win some ya lose some.
Hey, I resurrected this bad boy just to keep the Hellfire Club thread on topic! People were revolting, like "GRR! ARGH! Where be the Hellyuns!" Well, by people, I mean Dagger. :biggrin: Still, there were others, and the future HC members did deserve a little of the spotlight, too. 5 threads around all the HC and Hellions in a month still seems like a healthy amount.
LOL. Sorry for being such a pain in the beef stick!:tongue:

La Fea
05-04-2008, 12:59 PM
Fave Hellions:
1. Hellion
2. Switch
3. Tarot
4. Wither
5. Catseye

Dagger
05-04-2008, 01:04 PM
My second entry into the Hellions bio is Bevatron.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03093.jpg

Real name: Fabian Marechal-Julbin
First appearance as a Hellion: New Warriors #9
Last appearance as a Hellion: Uncanny X-Men #282
Current status: Deceased
Powers and Abilities: Generate bioelectricity as static pulse discharges through his fists

Speaking with a French accent, Bevatron was recruited by the villainous White Queen after the loss of Firestar. Appearing very cocky, he, along with his other new recruit Beef, tested their mettle against the New Warriors, where he was badly injured during his battle with Firestar.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03095.jpg

He apparently fell from the New Warriors secret headquarters.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03092.jpg

While attending a party thrown by the White Queen, where she proposed a truce between the Hellfire Club and the X-Men, they were attacked by Trevor Fitzroy, and some highly advanced sentinels. Bevatron met his untimely demise by being completely drained by Fitzroy in his Antarctic base.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03001--03250/03094.jpg

Any thoughts on the second profile in the Hellions roster, Bevatron?

Hakael
05-04-2008, 03:08 PM
Favorite Hellions:

1. Hellion
2. Rockslide
3. Tarot
4. Empath
5. Mercury

La Fea
05-04-2008, 03:11 PM
EEK! Empath. Yeah, he'd knock one of my beetchulls off my list.

ChristosSoter
05-04-2008, 03:38 PM
Great bio, Dagger.

Roulette next, please!

Dagger
05-04-2008, 05:00 PM
Great bio, Dagger.

Roulette next, please!
All in due time! I'm going alphabetically!

HeckBoy
05-04-2008, 05:28 PM
Don't really know much about the original Hellions, so my list of favorites deals mainly w/ the most recent squad.

1. Hellion - I'm usually turned off by the cocky character, but I really like Julian. He might have seemed really pretentious when he was first introduced, but he's shown that he's a good person deep down. He just has more depth now. I just wish he'd snap out of his emo-stage.
2. Rockslide - Since he lost his Thing-lite image, I'ved like him more. Visually speaking, he used to remind me of the Thing so much that I couldnt really see him as anything more than just a knockoff. Now that he has a new look, and new explosion/reforming powers, along w/ his original humor, I've grown to like him more (although I think it works best when he has a foil to play off of, which he doesn't really have on the Young X-Men at the moment).
3. Jetstream - Powers are remarkably similar to Cannonball's, but the bionic enhancements show the toll his powers had on his body. I guess mainly, his similarity (power-wise) to Jet from the Cyborg 009 anime (a favorite of mine) is what makes me like him.
4. Mercury &Dust - I grouped them together mainly b/c I just couldn't choose between the two, good or bad. It's good b/c I like them both equally well, bad b/c neither really sticks out in my mind enough. Both are, in a sense, elementals, capable of existing in a different physical state. I like Mercury's denmother-ish role as the caretaker of the team, while I like that Dust will go to pretty far lengths to do what she has to in a fight (yet still manages to stay true to herself and her beliefs). Yet, other than that, neither girl really gets that much quality face time to explore their characters more.

pryde15
05-04-2008, 05:32 PM
Roulette, Empath, Tarot, and Catseye will always be my favorite Hellions.

HeckBoy
05-04-2008, 05:40 PM
On a side-note, but still related to Hellions, is Colossus affected by Wither's touch? Like I never understood the need to qualify Colossus as being made of 'organic' steel when there are other characters w/ different transitional forms as well that aren't considered "organic _______." Other than being an unidentified metal, is there anything particularly "organic" about it? Oh, and I'm going by Wiki's definition of organic as anything that came from a living thing, is decay-able, or is made from carbon.

Jack Flash
05-04-2008, 07:18 PM
Fave Hellions:
1. Hellion
2. Switch
3. Tarot
4. Wither
5. Catseye

There is a distinct lack of Vincente in this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HellFrost
05-04-2008, 09:17 PM
Hey, I resurrected this bad boy just to keep the Hellfire Club thread on topic! People were revolting, like "GRR! ARGH! Where be the Hellyuns!" Well, by people, I mean Dagger. Still, there were others, and the future HC members did deserve a little of the spotlight, too. 5 threads around all the HC and Hellions in a month still seems like a healthy amount.

And the jokes? Well, Beef's easy. Making a Bevatron joke, now THAT is hard.

Lol. True. I believe that the Hellions are a huge part of what the HellFire Club was.

I'm sure you'll think of something for Bevatron:wink:
I wish the Hellions were alive, they are really interesting characters and it would've been great to see them develop.

Agreed. I don't understand why they all needed to die (not that I'm a fan of the idea of any of them dying). I really think that the characters such as Catseye and Tarot had a lot of potential to be heroes in the Marvel U and I would have loved to see Roulette become a big baddie. She could have been pretty damn threatening had she the time to grow and develop more.

Awww, i miss the Hellions this much (you probably can't see me gesturing). I don't care much for the New Xmen Hellion team, it's the oldschool team I miss. Especially Catseye.

Catseye is hands down my favorite of the original Hellions. She was sooooooo purrrrrty!

Don't worry. I loves me some Hellions, and plan on spotlighting my group for everyone's enjoyment! Plus it'll give WBE some time for him to focus on his grouping, since it was his idea to spotlight the Hellfire Club, and I just couldn't have a Hellfire month w/o the Hellions being represented

Yeah, I agree too. I'm a little disappointed they didn't have a chance to flesh these guys out before they got the ax, but hey, ya win some ya lose some.

LOL. Sorry for being such a pain in the beef stick!

Ah! I didn't realize that WBE had a group of his own. Makes sense:smile:

And I agree about wishing they had more time. Although, if they did, we might not have the wonderful Emma Frost join the ranks of the X-Men. And since she is my reason for being... that would be tragic.

Any thoughts on the second profile in the Hellions roster, Bevatron?

I really liked Bevatrons powers. He was like a miniature Havok in a sense. His codename however... makes me twitch. Not in a good way. What the hell is a "Bevatron" anyway?!?!?

All in due time! I'm going alphabetically!

I was wondering if you guy are doing the entirety of the Hellions in Alphabetical order or if you split the Hellions according to team and are doing them in alphabetical order PLUS, in the order the teams were created in. I'm cool with whatever, just curious so I know what to expect.:smile:

Don't really know much about the original Hellions, so my list of favorites deals mainly w/ the most recent squad.

1. Hellion - I'm usually turned off by the cocky character, but I really like Julian. He might have seemed really pretentious when he was first introduced, but he's shown that he's a good person deep down. He just has more depth now. I just wish he'd snap out of his emo-stage.
Ugh! I hate the Emo-tude... It bothers me like whoa! I miss my King-of-the-World Julian Keller...

2. Rockslide - Since he lost his Thing-lite image, I'ved like him more. Visually speaking, he used to remind me of the Thing so much that I couldnt really see him as anything more than just a knockoff. Now that he has a new look, and new explosion/reforming powers, along w/ his original humor, I've grown to like him more (although I think it works best when he has a foil to play off of, which he doesn't really have on the Young X-Men at the moment).

I was actually a fan of the "Thing" look he was originally intended to have. I've grown to like his new form, however I was in love with his magma form. I'm not sure how I feel about his exploding power yet because it makes him insanely powerful. It creates a "Wanda" factor to his abilities.

3. Jetstream - Powers are remarkably similar to Cannonball's, but the bionic enhancements show the toll his powers had on his body. I guess mainly, his similarity (power-wise) to Jet from the Cyborg 009 anime (a favorite of mine) is what makes me like him.

I don't really know anything about Cyborg 009 but I agree about the Cannonball similarity. I loved that his powers crippled him. I would have liked to see where he was going with that.

4. Mercury &Dust - I grouped them together mainly b/c I just couldn't choose between the two, good or bad. It's good b/c I like them both equally well, bad b/c neither really sticks out in my mind enough. Both are, in a sense, elementals, capable of existing in a different physical state. I like Mercury's denmother-ish role as the caretaker of the team, while I like that Dust will go to pretty far lengths to do what she has to in a fight (yet still manages to stay true to herself and her beliefs). Yet, other than that, neither girl really gets that much quality face time to explore their characters more.

Mercury and Hellion are technically the two New Hellions I can't really choose which one I like more usually. But I like the fact that they have incredibly contrasting personalities and yet they still get along. I love their powers and the fact that they appear to be elemental and I love how well they work when used in conjunction. They appear to be near unstoppable.

On a side-note, but still related to Hellions, is Colossus affected by Wither's touch? Like I never understood the need to qualify Colossus as being made of 'organic' steel when there are other characters w/ different transitional forms as well that aren't considered "organic _______." Other than being an unidentified metal, is there anything particularly "organic" about it? Oh, and I'm going by Wiki's definition of organic as anything that came from a living thing, is decay-able, or is made from carbon.

If I remember correctly, Colossus' Osmium body is made up of carbon. I see it as his body replicating what the earth can do when it creates it's own minerals and such. Wither's powers would indeed work on Colossus, however, much like Emma's Diamond Form, it would take a very long while to actually have an effect.

There is a distinct lack of Vincente in this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Technically speaking... Vincente is not actually a Hellion. The writer's used that as an unofficial term to describe Emplates lackies due to Emma's history and role in the book. I like Vincente, but I found Murmur (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/glossary/showentry.asp?fldAuto=738) to be much more fascinating.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8545/murmurjs8.png

pryde15
05-04-2008, 09:19 PM
Everytime I think of Bevatron I think of a cow. Which would make more sense for Beef, but nope.

ToxicTeen
05-04-2008, 09:27 PM
My Favorite Hellions:

Wither- I really like him since he's one of the types who is conflicted with his own powers. Plus he's an artist. :wink: I just hope that he comes back soon and when he does, he doesn't get killed off so quickly. (They should have done a Divided We Stand story of Wither and also Mercury just to show what Mercury's been up to and what's Wither's been doing while everyone else was fighting bad guys and stuff. T___T ) Though I wonder how much Kevin has changed while he's been with Selene. Will he get some awesome power-boost or will end up as a slave to Selene?
Mercury- I really like her powers and her sweet personality. I wonder where she'll end up after Messiah Complex.
Dust - I like her for her powers. I just hope that Young X-Men doesn't ruin her.
Rockslide - I like him cause he's funny and his powers are neat. like Dust, I hope Young X-Men doesn't ruin him.
Hellion - I think he's cool but I feel bad for him after what's happen to him. He was the mutant kid who had it all and lost it. I hope things get better for him.

Even though he's not my favorite, I wonder what's become of Empath, the only first hellion member that is still alive?

pryde15
05-04-2008, 09:30 PM
My Favorite Hellions:

Wither- I really like him since he's one of the types who is conflicted with his own powers. Plus he's an artist. :wink: I just hope that he comes back soon and when he does, he doesn't get killed off so quickly. (They should have done a Divided We Stand story of Wither and also Mercury just to show what Mercury's been up to and what's Wither's been doing while everyone else was fighting bad guys and stuff. T___T ) Though I wonder how much Kevin has changed while he's been with Selene. Will he get some awesome power-boost or will end up as a slave to Selene?
Mercury- I really like her powers and her sweet personality. I wonder where she'll end up after Messiah Complex.
Dust - I like her for her powers. I just hope that Young X-Men doesn't ruin her.
Rockslide - I like him cause he's funny and his powers are neat. like Dust, I hope Young X-Men doesn't ruin him.
Hellion - I think he's cool but I feel bad for him after what's happen to him. He was the mutant kid who had it all and lost it. I hope things get better for him.

Even though he's not my favorite, I wonder what's become of Empath, the only first hellion member that is still alive?


Both Tarot & Empath are alive, but only Empath still has his powered.

Dagger
05-05-2008, 01:33 PM
I was wondering if you guy are doing the entirety of the Hellions in Alphabetical order or if you split the Hellions according to team and are doing them in alphabetical order PLUS, in the order the teams were created in. I'm cool with whatever, just curious so I know what to expect.:smile:
Yeah, I've got the first half up to Feral, and then WBE has the rest.

worstblogever
05-05-2008, 01:41 PM
Yeah, I've got the first half up to Feral, and then WBE has the rest.

While they aren't posted, I already have my first four done and ready to go. If I get them done, maybe I'll start on another "theme month" down the line. July could just be Brotherhood or Morlocks month, for all I know. Or August, if I'm a slacker.

Jack Flash
05-05-2008, 02:16 PM
While they aren't posted, I already have my first four done and ready to go. If I get them done, maybe I'll start on another "theme month" down the line. July could just be Brotherhood or Morlocks month, for all I know. Or August, if I'm a slacker.

I'd be down for helping with the Morlocks! <3 Scaleface!

I still say that Emplate's Hellions should be considered "Official!"

And I liked Bulwark and Murmur from the group too!

worstblogever
05-05-2008, 02:18 PM
I'd be down for helping with the Morlocks! <3 Scaleface!

I still say that Emplate's Hellions should be considered "Official!"

And I liked Bulwark and Murmur from the group too!

The fact that you love anyone who rolls with Vincente doesn't surprise me. :wink:

Dagger
05-06-2008, 10:32 PM
While they aren't posted, I already have my first four done and ready to go. If I get them done, maybe I'll start on another "theme month" down the line. July could just be Brotherhood or Morlocks month, for all I know. Or August, if I'm a slacker.
We need a Morlocks month!!!! Annalee ftw please!

HellFrost
05-06-2008, 10:37 PM
We need a Morlocks month!!!! Annalee ftw please!

OMFG! Annalee was my FAVE! And how's everything going with the spotlights? I'm really excited for them:smile:

La Fea
05-06-2008, 10:41 PM
There is a distinct lack of Vincente in this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah, he was a Hellion, right????????

He can bump up between Wither and Tarot.

P.S. Since we're being technical, one issue Hellion Sofia Louisa Antoinette Alopecia Mantega is my number one choice.

Dagger
05-06-2008, 11:01 PM
Sorry it's taken me so long, but I've been buuuusssyyy!!! So for my tardiness, I'm going to drop off 2 profiles tonight.

First up is the wonderfully naive Catseye!!!

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03501--03750/03538.jpg

Real Name: Sharon Smith
First Appearance: New Mutants (1st series) #16
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #282
Current Status: Deceased.
Powers and Abilities: transform into a housecat or a panther hybrid with enhanced strength, agility, reflexes, and senses, razor sharp claws, and a prehensile tail. Retains human intelligence in cat form.

Catseye is one of the original Hellions, and the purrfect foil for Rahne's Wolfsbane. She is reportedly a super-genius, yet we haven't seen her in any of her apperances able to form coherrent sentences. It is rumored that she is a mutated cat who can become human.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/00751--01000/00770.jpg
After their initial fight, Catseye and Rahne develop a great friendship, and Rahne, often getting Rahne to do stuff that she wouldn't normally do being all devoutly Catholic and all.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/00751--01000/00772.jpg
In a 'friendly' rivalry against the New Mutants, in search of Bird-Brain, Catseye and her team-mate Roulette, almost plunge to their deaths but thanks to Roulette's handy power, they safely land in a store canopy.

During their big-melee against the New Warriors for the fate of Firestar, Catseye soundly defeats her apponent Night Thrasher by easily tearing through his body armor. While the rest of her teammates are defeated, Catseye is the only hellion to go through the fight undefeated.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03501--03750/03541.jpg
In her next battle, she went up against the Upstart, Fabian Cortez, where she and the rest of her teammates met their unfortunate, untimely demise.

Any thoughts on the next entry, Catseye???

worstblogever
05-07-2008, 03:08 AM
Sorry it's taken me so long, but I've been buuuusssyyy!!! So for my tardiness, I'm going to drop off 2 profiles tonight.

First up is the wonderfully naive Catseye!!!

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03501--03750/03538.jpg

Real Name: Sharon Smith
First Appearance: New Mutants (1st series) #16
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #282
Current Status: Deceased.
Powers and Abilities: transform into a housecat or a panther hybrid with enhanced strength, agility, reflexes, and senses, razor sharp claws, and a prehensile tail. Retains human intelligence in cat form.

Catseye is one of the original Hellions, and the purrfect foil for Rahne's Wolfsbane. She is reportedly a super-genius, yet we haven't seen her in any of her apperances able to form coherrent sentences. It is rumored that she is a mutated cat who can become human.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/00751--01000/00770.jpg
After their initial fight, Catseye and Rahne develop a great friendship, and Rahne, often getting Rahne to do stuff that she wouldn't normally do being all devoutly Catholic and all.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/00751--01000/00772.jpg
In a 'friendly' rivalry against the New Mutants, in search of Bird-Brain, Catseye and her team-mate Roulette, almost plunge to their deaths but thanks to Roulette's handy power, they safely land in a store canopy.

During their big-melee against the New Warriors for the fate of Firestar, Catseye soundly defeats her apponent Night Thrasher by easily tearing through his body armor. While the rest of her teammates are defeated, Catseye is the only hellion to go through the fight undefeated.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03501--03750/03541.jpg
In her next battle, she went up against the Upstart, Fabian Cortez, where she and the rest of her teammates met their unfortunate, untimely demise.

Any thoughts on the next entry, Catseye???

Knocked out of a window, and no body was ever shown... she might not be dead. There is hope.

But as Morgan Freeman said in Shawshank Redemption, "Hope can be a dangerous thing."

By the way... what happened to Bevatron?

FemGeek
05-07-2008, 05:58 AM
I loooooove Catseye. My favourite thing about her was the way she talked, so cute. And who dosen't love a six foot girl with purple hair and a tail.

Jack Flash
05-07-2008, 07:44 AM
I liked Catseye much better than Bevatron or Beef. I totally don't believe she's dead.

I think they should reintroduce Beef as a flamboyantly gay character. Like over the top Camp to the max. With heat powers!

Dagger
05-07-2008, 08:37 AM
OMFG! Annalee was my FAVE! And how's everything going with the spotlights? I'm really excited for them:smile:
I was busy for a few days and couldn't get on here to put them on, but now that I have a couple days I'm going to jump right back on the horse for that.
Knocked out of a window, and no body was ever shown... she might not be dead. There is hope.

But as Morgan Freeman said in Shawshank Redemption, "Hope can be a dangerous thing."

By the way... what happened to Bevatron?
Catseye was drained along with the rest of the surviving Hellions by that damn Fitzroy:sad:

He was drained by Fitzroy.

worstblogever
05-07-2008, 09:30 AM
I was busy for a few days and couldn't get on here to put them on, but now that I have a couple days I'm going to jump right back on the horse for that.

Catseye was drained along with the rest of the surviving Hellions by that damn Fitzroy:sad:

He was drained by Fitzroy.

No, I mean what happened to Bevatron's entry? You skipped him, right? I thought you were going alphabetically...

Dazzler
05-07-2008, 09:37 AM
Catseye? Naive?

HA!

She's the ONLY Hellion who had *everyone's* number. She called people out left and right, even if it wasn't to scold them, she still would slip in very true subtle assessments of everyone's character when talking to (or about) them.

I would say rather than naive, she was the ultimate go with the flow kinda girl. ;)

--Dazz

Dagger
05-07-2008, 10:20 AM
No, I mean what happened to Bevatron's entry? You skipped him, right? I thought you were going alphabetically...
i posted an entry for him...did it get deleted?

Edit. Check page 7 WBE. It's near the top of the page.

worstblogever
05-07-2008, 10:22 AM
i posted an entry for him...did it get deleted?

Edit. Check page 7 WBE. It's near the top of the page.

Well damn. That'll teach me to sleep.

Dagger
05-07-2008, 10:24 AM
Well damn. That'll teach me to sleep.
I don't know whether to HAW HAW or LAWLZ in your face:tongue:

Dagger
05-10-2008, 06:14 AM
I know it's been a while but here's the next one for my list of bio's! This time I'm going to be doing it on Empath!

Real Name: Manuel Alfonzo Rodrigo de la Rocha
First Appearance: New Mutants (1st series) #16
Current Status: Alive and powered.
Powers and Abilities:
sense emotional states and desires from other sentient beings, manipulate the emotions of others


http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04001--04250/04010.jpg

Empath aka Manuel Alfonso Rodrigo De La Rocha is probably the most insidious Hellion to ever walk the halls of Massachusetts Academy. His total disregard for his victims made him a total asset for the Hellfire Club, if they could learn how to control him. He once used his abilities to coerce Firestar, a reluctant Hellion at the time, to aid him and his fellow students, Roulette and Thunderbird II(Warpath) in attacking the X-Men on the anniversary of James' brother's death.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03751--04000/03987.jpg

He was never one to back away from being manipulative, he once abused his powers on Tom Corsi and Sharon Friedlander and made them have a non-stop orgy almost killing them in the process. He also made Magneto become depressed and an alcoholic over his inability to properly protect his students.

Later, after falling in love with the former New Mutant, Magma, he joined her in returning to her home in Nova Roma. Where he learned that the real reason people believed they were a lost roman civilization was because they were being manipulated by a spell from the current black queen of the Hellfire Club, Selene. Using his powers, he kept the charade up, until intervention from Cannonball, and former teammates Warpath and Firestar disrupted his manipulations.

Last seen, he was working for Sunspot's X-Corp California branch.

What are your thoughts on the current addition, Empath?

worstblogever
05-10-2008, 07:11 AM
I know it's been a while but here's the next one for my list of bio's! This time I'm going to be doing it on Empath!

Real Name: Manuel Alfonzo Rodrigo de la Rocha
First Appearance: New Mutants (1st series) #16
Current Status: Alive and powered.
Powers and Abilities:
sense emotional states and desires from other sentient beings, manipulate the emotions of others


http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04001--04250/04010.jpg

Empath aka Manuel Alfonso Rodrigo De La Rocha is probably the most insidious Hellion to ever walk the halls of Massachusetts Academy. His total disregard for his victims made him a total asset for the Hellfire Club, if they could learn how to control him. He once used his abilities to coerce Firestar, a reluctant Hellion at the time, to aid him and his fellow students, Roulette and Thunderbird II(Warpath) in attacking the X-Men on the anniversary of James' brother's death.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/03751--04000/03987.jpg

He was never one to back away from being manipulative, he once abused his powers on Tom Corsi and Sharon Friedlander and made them have a non-stop orgy almost killing them in the process. He also made Magneto become depressed and an alcoholic over his inability to properly protect his students.

Later, after falling in love with the former New Mutant, Magma, he joined her in returning to her home in Nova Roma. Where he learned that the real reason people believed they were a lost roman civilization was because they were being manipulated by a spell from the current black queen of the Hellfire Club, Selene. Using his powers, he kept the charade up, until intervention from Cannonball, and former teammates Warpath and Firestar disrupted his manipulations.

Last seen, he was working for Sunspot's X-Corp California branch.

What are your thoughts on the current addition, Empath?

The non-stop orgy trick is pretty hot. Unless he were to ever use it on the Morlocks. Ugh. Picture Litterbug and Erg turning Masque into finger cuffs. I dare you. And he turned Magneto into Tony Stark, and lived to talk about it.

His back history with Magma and Warpath makes him a prime candidate for Young X-Men. I always wondered why they had him pick up Magma in X-Men: The 198... and then after teasing it, they left them to part ways again.

CarnatTreasure
05-10-2008, 06:16 PM
God I would love to have emplates powers, he seemed to be a little on the uni sexual side i mean everyone has some basic attraction to the same sex right??? i could totally see him making warpath get down and dirty with himI LOOOOVE THIS THREAD thanks guys for making a hellion thread they rocked and i loved how they were actually not following xaviers dream like the goody NM....I loooove the NM though I always thought Magik and roulette would make great friends

k.i.n.g.
05-10-2008, 09:56 PM
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I love the original line-up serving as the New Mutants' nemeses (are they good? bad? potential friends and lovers, or only a source of peril?). I tried to grab all the Hellion issues back in the day while going through the comic back-issue boxes.

They each had different make-ups, visuals, body types and personalities. Shame a good chunk of them are dead and/or semi-permanently missing (a.k.a. believed dead). The four <3'd ones are my favorite.

Dagger
05-15-2008, 12:13 PM
Sorry it's been a while! Moving on we get into a fan favorite, even though DDM doesn't think she should be included, I say he can shut the eff up and not participate if he doens't like her inclusion, today's bio goes to Firestar!!!
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04001--04250/04110.jpg

Real name: Angelica Jones
First Appearance: Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends
First in-continuity Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #193
Last Apperance: Civil War Frontline
Current Status: Retired
Powers and Abilities: Firestar is an Omega-level mutant with the ability to control the microwave band that surrounds the planet earth (as well as other forms of microwave energy). Specifically, she can absorb, generate, and manipulate microwave radiation. She can focus microwaves on a specific target, and cause it to burst into flame, explode, or melt. She can also sense microwave signals (such as cell-phone signals or remote-control devices) and disrupt electronics with her own microwave emissions. Firestar has also been able to disrupt the psionic powers of others using her own powers.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04001--04250/04109.jpg

Angelica was a lonely girl growing up, she discovered she had mutant powers. Being spotted by both Emma Frost's and Charles Xavier's mutant tracking systems, they were both on the move to recruit her. Beating Charles to the punch, she ended up being recruited to the Massachusetts Academy.

Emma Frost began training Angelica in the use of her powers for the Club's team of young mutants, the Hellions. She was never sent on field missions with the other Hellions, however, because of her lack of control over her lethal powers and because the White Queen wished to make her cruel and callous, and befriending other young mutants would work against that goal. Emma even went so far as making Angel believe that she killed her own horse with her microwave powers. The White Queen manipulated Angelica into perceiving Frost as a loving mother figure, unaware that Frost was secretly grooming her to be a potential assassin and bodyguard. Angelica did meet Cannonball and the New Mutants at an Academy dance.

Firestar is later emotionally manipulated by Empath, and accompanied the Hellions Thunderbird, Empath, and Roulette on a mission against the X-Men.

Angelica joined a new group of heroes, named the New Warriors, and came into conflict with her former allies when Emma became aware that Night Thrasher had hacked into her computer files on Firestar. Having a competition with Tai, Emma and her Hellions lost against the New Warriors, where Firestar confronted Emma saying she left of her own free will.

She became one of the few remaining surviving Hellions after Trevor Fitzroy decimated that group in his initial confrontation with the group.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04001--04250/04116.jpg

So what do you think of the newest bio on Firestar during her tenure with the Hellions?

worstblogever
05-15-2008, 12:22 PM
Sorry it's been a while! Moving on we get into a fan favorite, even though DDM doesn't think she should be included, I say he can shut the eff up and not participate if he doens't like her inclusion, today's bio goes to Firestar!!!
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04001--04250/04110.jpg

Real name: Angelica Jones
First Appearance: Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends
First in-continuity Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #193
Last Apperance: Civil War Frontline
Current Status: Retired
Powers and Abilities: Firestar is an Omega-level mutant with the ability to control the microwave band that surrounds the planet earth (as well as other forms of microwave energy). Specifically, she can absorb, generate, and manipulate microwave radiation. She can focus microwaves on a specific target, and cause it to burst into flame, explode, or melt. She can also sense microwave signals (such as cell-phone signals or remote-control devices) and disrupt electronics with her own microwave emissions. Firestar has also been able to disrupt the psionic powers of others using her own powers.

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04001--04250/04109.jpg

Angelica was a lonely girl growing up, she discovered she had mutant powers. Being spotted by both Emma Frost's and Charles Xavier's mutant tracking systems, they were both on the move to recruit her. Beating Charles to the punch, she ended up being recruited to the Massachusetts Academy.

Emma Frost began training Angelica in the use of her powers for the Club's team of young mutants, the Hellions. She was never sent on field missions with the other Hellions, however, because of her lack of control over her lethal powers and because the White Queen wished to make her cruel and callous, and befriending other young mutants would work against that goal. Emma even went so far as making Angel believe that she killed her own horse with her microwave powers. The White Queen manipulated Angelica into perceiving Frost as a loving mother figure, unaware that Frost was secretly grooming her to be a potential assassin and bodyguard. Angelica did meet Cannonball and the New Mutants at an Academy dance.

Firestar is later emotionally manipulated by Empath, and accompanied the Hellions Thunderbird, Empath, and Roulette on a mission against the X-Men.

Angelica joined a new group of heroes, named the New Warriors, and came into conflict with her former allies when Emma became aware that Night Thrasher had hacked into her computer files on Firestar. Having a competition with Tai, Emma and her Hellions lost against the New Warriors, where Firestar confronted Emma saying she left of her own free will.

She became one of the few remaining surviving Hellions after Trevor Fitzroy decimated that group in his initial confrontation with the group.
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So what do you think of the newest bio on Firestar during her tenure with the Hellions?

BUTTER RUM!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

I think mentioning the issue of Generation X where Angelica talked to Emma about manipulating her during her childhood, and they kind of made peace is an awkward, but important story. Part of the redemption of Emma Frost, to be sure.

Still, it seems like writers haven't let Angelica move forward since her time in the Avengers, with her just opting to retire during Civil War: Frontline... it's kind of disappointing... she's out there, powers and all... doing... nothin'.

chemicalx
05-15-2008, 01:08 PM
I miss Angelica, she has so much potential. I dont understand why she is in limbo and yet Justice gets to parade around forming teams and flirting with Ultra Girl!!!

Does no one even care where she is?!!

Jack Flash
05-15-2008, 07:56 PM
I loved how mean Empath was. and Butter Rum so should have dated Brightwind!

Monty_Cristo
05-15-2008, 07:58 PM
i wish there were still a team of young elitist snob mutants to counter the young x-men. i miss the conflict.

worstblogever
05-25-2008, 06:14 AM
Hey, what ever happened to the rest of the old-school Hellions profiles? I'm still sitting on ones for the New X-Men Hellions (Magma, Roulette, Tarot & Thunderbird) and all that... :confused:

Dagger
05-25-2008, 06:24 AM
Hey, what ever happened to the rest of the old-school Hellions profiles? I'm still sitting on ones for the New X-Men Hellions (Magma, Roulette, Tarot & Thunderbird) and all that... :confused:
Sorry, sorry sorry! I'll get right on them as soon as I can!

Dagger
05-25-2008, 06:52 AM
Real name: Haroun ibn Sallah al-Rashid
First Appearance: New Mutants #16
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #281
Current Status: Deceased.
Abilities: He can bodily generate thermo chemical energy and release it from his skin. This energy is accompanied by plasma. So far Jetstream can only release this energy in one direction, beneath him. The egual opposite reaction to this thrust causes his body to be propelled into the air like a human rocket.
Jetstream’s bionic system enables him to contain, focus, and control the power he generates. Among these systems is a bionic backpack, which can fold away into Jetstream’s body.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04634.jpg
Jetstream began his life as a young mutant with a gift quite similar to Cannonball's, yet unlike young Sam Guthrie, his ability didn't come in with the built in safety device of being invulnerable while he was blastin'. Yet, he was far more graceful and skilled at using his gift than Sam, having the ability to control the direction that he was flying in. After his powers blossomed, he burned himself quite badly, and thanks to his father's connections in the Hellfire Club, Sebastian Shaw(with some help from Donald Pierce's expertise) gave him his cybernetic jetpack to help him control his powers so not to burn him again.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04639.jpg
Other than having a rivalry with Xaviers students, mostly a petty rivalry, Jetstream was quite an honest and noble youth. Getting into spats with his more insidious(sp?) fellow student, Empath, he truly seemed ot bring out the worst in his fellow Hellions.

In battle against the New Warriors, he pitted himself against Nova, who defeated him by punching him through a wall
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http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04642.jpg

Soon after their battle with the New Warriors, Jetstream was murdered by the time-travel, Trevor Fitzroy, as well as most of his other fellow Hellions.

So what do you think of the Jetstream?

Hakael
05-25-2008, 03:07 PM
Real name: Haroun ibn Sallah al-Rashid
First Appearance: New Mutants #16
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #281
Current Status: Deceased.
Abilities: He can bodily generate thermo chemical energy and release it from his skin. This energy is accompanied by plasma. So far Jetstream can only release this energy in one direction, beneath him. The egual opposite reaction to this thrust causes his body to be propelled into the air like a human rocket.
Jetstream’s bionic system enables him to contain, focus, and control the power he generates. Among these systems is a bionic backpack, which can fold away into Jetstream’s body.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04634.jpg
Jetstream began his life as a young mutant with a gift quite similar to Cannonball's, yet unlike young Sam Guthrie, his ability didn't come in with the built in safety device of being invulnerable while he was blastin'. Yet, he was far more graceful and skilled at using his gift than Sam, having the ability to control the direction that he was flying in. After his powers blossomed, he burned himself quite badly, and thanks to his father's connections in the Hellfire Club, Sebastian Shaw(with some help from Donald Pierce's expertise) gave him his cybernetic jetpack to help him control his powers so not to burn him again.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04639.jpg
Other than having a rivalry with Xaviers students, mostly a petty rivalry, Jetstream was quite an honest and noble youth. Getting into spats with his more insidious(sp?) fellow student, Empath, he truly seemed ot bring out the worst in his fellow Hellions.

In battle against the New Warriors, he pitted himself against Nova, who defeated him by punching him through a wall
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04641.jpg
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04642.jpg

Soon after their battle with the New Warriors, Jetstream was murdered by the time-travel, Trevor Fitzroy, as well as most of his other fellow Hellions.

So what do you think of the Jetstream?

Wow, Nova's come a long way... I think he could look at Jetstream funny now and blow him through a wall...

Jack Flash
05-25-2008, 09:03 PM
I never loved Jetstream like I did the others.

worstblogever
05-26-2008, 02:38 AM
Real name: Haroun ibn Sallah al-Rashid
First Appearance: New Mutants #16
Last Appearance: Uncanny X-Men #281
Current Status: Deceased.
Abilities: He can bodily generate thermo chemical energy and release it from his skin. This energy is accompanied by plasma. So far Jetstream can only release this energy in one direction, beneath him. The egual opposite reaction to this thrust causes his body to be propelled into the air like a human rocket.
Jetstream’s bionic system enables him to contain, focus, and control the power he generates. Among these systems is a bionic backpack, which can fold away into Jetstream’s body.
Jetstream began his life as a young mutant with a gift quite similar to Cannonball's, yet unlike young Sam Guthrie, his ability didn't come in with the built in safety device of being invulnerable while he was blastin'. Yet, he was far more graceful and skilled at using his gift than Sam, having the ability to control the direction that he was flying in. After his powers blossomed, he burned himself quite badly, and thanks to his father's connections in the Hellfire Club, Sebastian Shaw(with some help from Donald Pierce's expertise) gave him his cybernetic jetpack to help him control his powers so not to burn him again.

Other than having a rivalry with Xaviers students, mostly a petty rivalry, Jetstream was quite an honest and noble youth. Getting into spats with his more insidious(sp?) fellow student, Empath, he truly seemed ot bring out the worst in his fellow Hellions.

In battle against the New Warriors, he pitted himself against Nova, who defeated him by punching him through a wall
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04641.jpg
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/04501--04750/04642.jpg

Soon after their battle with the New Warriors, Jetstream was murdered by the time-travel, Trevor Fitzroy, as well as most of his other fellow Hellions.

So what do you think of the Jetstream?

Shame he died. I mean, after 9-11-01, people with names like Haroun ibn Sallah al-Rashid would have to spend hours getting harassed by paranoid racial profiling airport security. But Jetstream would've had that name and been able to fly anywhere his heart desired without having to jump through hoops for the TSA. Real wasted potential, there. :frown:

Oh, and I still hate Fitzroy, too.

Dagger
05-26-2008, 09:21 AM
I never loved Jetstream like I did the others.
Blasphemous, Jeddy! Jetty was my baby!!!

Jack Flash
05-26-2008, 09:57 AM
Blasphemous, Jeddy! Jetty was my baby!!!

I know! and I totally feel guilty over it! Maybe I am unconciously racist??!

Dagger
05-28-2008, 12:03 PM
I know! and I totally feel guilty over it! Maybe I am unconciously racist??!
It's because he's ARAB???? OMG!!! WTF, MATE!!!

Dagger
05-28-2008, 12:24 PM
I'm trying to get back on track, and here's today's update. We now have one Hellion who was hardly on the team, yet we have tons of info on her, but for the sake of my sanity, and inability to keep it current, we move on to MAGMA!
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Real Name: Amara Juliana Olivia Aquilla
First Appearance: New Mutants (1st series) #8
Last Appearance: Young X-Men #2
Current status: Member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants
Powers and abilities: geo-thermal powers allow her to assume an energized form in which she radiates heat and light, can ignite high temperature flames, cause and direct seismic upheavals, summon molten rock to the surface as lava or small volcano mounds, and project "magma blasts" by superheating rock or stone and then mentally launching it at her foes

Her time with the Hellions was brief, not even going on a single mission before her father had sent word for her to come home. Going back to Nova Roma with fellow Hellion, Empath, she sent out home. Encountering trouble, she soon fell in love with Empath, under his subtle manipulations, she came to realize that her identity as Amara was a ruse, and that the Nova Romans weren't Roman at all, but Europeans who were manipulated by the witch, Selene and further manipulated by Empath, because he didn't want to lose what he had in Nova Roma.
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Emerging years later after searching for herself, she had aligned herself with King Bedlam, and a whole group of 'New Hellions', Alison was quite bitter, and was acting very O.O.C. as she was aligning herself with villains for mere cash. Showing her true colors, she reverted back to form, and aided X-Force with taking down the 'New Hellions' and King Bedlam.
http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/05501--05750/05564.jpg

So what do you think of the new entry of Magma???

Dagger
05-28-2008, 12:55 PM
Here's a first! Two right in a row!!! Roulette!!!

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A seminal favorite, here's the bad girl of the group!

Real Name: Jennifer Stavros
First Appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Final Appearance: Unncanny X-Men # 282
Current Status: Deceased.
Powers and abilities: generate colored disks of psychic energy that can alter the probabilities of anything they touch, causing good luck or bad luck

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The real 'bitch' of the group, she definately had no problem using her powers for personal gain, often seen hanging out with Empath, she was the trouble maker of the group. Following teammate, Thunderbird II, she and Empath and Firestar followed him to NORAD, where he had kidnapped Banshee and ambushed the X-Men, thanks to her bad-luck powers, the X-Men's presence were alerted to the guards, and Empath made sure to twist their emotions and send Mandroids after the X-Men.

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She was later seen when the New Mutants had joined the Massachusetts academy, after a battle with the Beyonder and Mags inability to reach his students, he reached out to Emma Frost, not knowing that he was being manipulated by hellion, Empath. She, and the rest of her teammates seemed to form friendships with the New Mutants.

Later, at a party, she met up with, and had fun with new mutant, Cypher, where she got him drunk, and had him kick the tails of a bunch of the Hellfire Club members, and just had a really fun time, til old rivalries flared up again, and they went out after Bird Brain, and losing to the Muties once again.

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Getting into a fight with the New Warriors over teammate, Firestar, she went up against Speedball, and was trounced.

Her final appearance was at a party that the White Queen threw, trying to form an allegiance with the X-Men, where she, and the rest of her teammates had their life forces drained by Upstart, Trevor Fitzroy.

So what do you think of new entry, Roulette?

worstblogever
05-28-2008, 12:59 PM
Roulette? If only the party hadn't ended, Doug Ramsey wouldn't have died a virgin. She'd have used his linguistics talents on places where the sun didn't shine. And probably just to spite Tarot, who was supposed to have had a crush on Cypher, too, right? Perhaps the "b****" of the Hellions, but horny teenage girls in comics have never been cooler. I'm sorry... take any Kitty Pryde throwing herself at Colossus moments... any Jubilee goo-goo eyes on any dude... any New X-Man make out session, or Mercury making a pass at Wither... and FORGET ABOUT IT. Roulette just wins in that department for that party alone.

Jack Flash
05-28-2008, 02:50 PM
Here's a first! Two right in a row!!! Roulette!!!

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/06001--06250/06187.jpg

A seminal favorite, here's the bad girl of the group!

Real Name: Jennifer Stavros
First Appearance: New Mutants (vol. 1) #16
Final Appearance: Unncanny X-Men # 282
Current Status: Deceased.
Powers and abilities: generate colored disks of psychic energy that can alter the probabilities of anything they touch, causing good luck or bad luck

http://www.snikt.com/COTA/Image_Galleries/00751--01000/00980.jpg



I freaking loved Jennifer Stavros. She was just so damn mean. She's totally not dead. Plus what happened to her sisters!??!?! I think in a handbook it mentioned she had sisters. They are totally Young X-men material!

Agent_Torpor
05-28-2008, 03:42 PM
Doug Ramsey = the ultimate wet blanket.

Catseye
11-27-2008, 01:23 AM
This thread needs a revamp now that...well since Tarot isn't going to post, he ruined the whole thing. BUT WHATEVER.

So anyways, how did everyone feel about the recent take down of Empath? I thought it was pretty lame.

Tarot
11-27-2008, 01:32 AM
the Hellions have returned to stir up some, um, hell.
Plus, I am saddened by the lack of an entry in the thread for the beautigul Tarot.
Speaking of, which Hellion most needs to be not dead anymore?
Maybe Maddie already brought someone back when Empath joined the sisterhood

just another user
01-23-2009, 09:08 AM
This thread needs some more love.

What was it with November last year when we were innundated with New Members Sockpuppets named after Hellions who were never seen again?

Dagger
03-21-2009, 09:23 PM
Seriously, what happened to the pics I posted of all the Hellions on here? LAMEZORS!

justinkos91
03-21-2009, 09:56 PM
Am I the only one who enjoyed Tarot's return?
When I say return, I mean back from the dead, wearing a robe and carrying a scythe
she was darker, and had a deathly feel about her
but I liked it, plus there was something about Cheung that made her look good
Opinions on Bedlam's Hellions Tarot?
Hot or not?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/152519-187983-tarot.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/162226-157617-tarot.JPG

I appreciate Tarot. She was my favourite Hellion
It's a shame she's depowered...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/78422-65431-tarot.jpg

IseeFrost
03-21-2009, 10:03 PM
I think bringing back the Hellions took away from their deaths.

Fitzroy clearly killed Tarot or as Novaya would say "choked the life out da bitch"

Then when Emma finally woke up and saw all her students had died that's when she turned around and away from the Hellfire club. She wasn't there to protect them.

I know it's Marvel and a comic, so asking for someone to have a meaningful death is like asking for quality paper to return or to get a free bag/board with purchase.