X-Men Solicitations for July!!! (Plus House of M stuff)

[xmanson]

HOUSE OF M

HOUSE OF M #3 (of 8)
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Penciled by OLIVIER COIPEL
Cover by ESAD RIBIC
The world has turned upside-down and only two people know the truth. Follow Wolverine as he tries to piece together the mystery of the House of M, but first he must figure out -- who are his friends and who are foes?
The last page of this issue will blow your minds and crack the Internet right in half!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

HOUSE OF M #4 (of 8)
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Penciled by OLIVIER COIPEL
Cover by ESAD RIBIC
The fate of the entire world rests on the shoulders of one young girl, the newest of new mutants, Layla Miller. She is about to become the most important person in the Marvel Universe and this is her first appearance.Starring the entire Marvel Universe.
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

IRON MAN: HOUSE OF M #1 (of 3)
Written by GREG PAK
Pencils and cover by PAT LEE
Tony Stark is the smartest, most successful Sapien on the planet—the best and brightest of a dying species. Does it bother him that the House of M uses the technology produced by Tony’s multi-billion-dollar company to keep Sapiens down? That must be the reason he keeps his most powerful creation a secret – a familiar-looking suit of armor!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

FANTASTIC FOUR: HOUSE OF M #1 (of 3)
Written by JOHN LAYMAN
Pencils and cover by SCOT EATON
The Fantastic Four as you never could have imagined them! The trusted advisor at Magneto’s right hand is almost certainly the second most powerful man in the world. But the question is…will second-best be enough for Victor Von Doom?
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

SECRETS OF THE HOUSE OF M
Written by MIKE RAICHT
Witness history in the making! Revealing startling new details of the moment that changed everything, SECRETS OF THE HOUSE OF M is an essential companion to the limited-series mega-event. This keepsake volume also includes an overview of significant events and world leaders in the House of M reality, and HANDBOOK-style bios of all the key players – including S.H.I.E.L.D. operatives, mutant heroes and super-humans! Plus: newspaper and magazine articles, personal journal entries, a guided tour of the House of M reality, and more!
48 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$3.99

MUTOPIA X #1 (of 5)
Written by DAVID HINE
Penciled by LAN MEDINA
Cover by ANDY PARK
House of M tie-in!
Lights, camera, terrorists! Special investigator of human and mutant affairs, Ismael Ortega, teams up with ordinary cop, Lucas Bishop, to make sure terrorists from the Human Resistance Movement don’t kill hundreds by sabotaging a glamorous movie premiere!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

UNCANNY X-MEN #462
Written by CHRIS CLAREMONT
Pencils & Cover by ALAN DAVIS
House of M tie-in!
"SEASON OF THE WITCH" Part 1 (of 4)!
The return of Captain Britain! Brian Braddock is released from his duties as protector of the Omniverse to deal with a threat of even greater proportions—as if that was even possible! Meanwhile, Pyslocke and Rachel find themselves trapped in a situation with no way out!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP ...$2.50

NEW X-MEN #16
Written by NUNZIO DEFILIPPIS & CHRISTINA WEIR
Pencils & Cover by AARON LOPRESTI
House of M tie-in!
"HOUSE DIVIDED" Part 1 (Of 4)
When orders come down that a leader of the human resistance in Japan must be assassinated, S.H.I.E.L.D.’s highly trained Hellions squad is called in to do it. But when a team of future mutant leaders called the New Mutants find out about this, they must intervene to put an end to a guaranteed disaster of global portions!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

INCREDIBLE HULK #83 & #84
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by JORGE LUCAS
Cover by Andy Brase
House of M tie-in!
THE LAST REFUGE Part 1 & 2 (of 4)
In the Australian outback, Bruce Banner has found a peace he’s never known amongst a tribe of Aborigines. But when their safety is threatened by a battle between a sect of AIM and the ruling totalitarian mutant government, the Hulk is forced to intervene in a BIG way. A House of M tie-in as the aforementioned "House" discovers that there is one mortal in all the world who can stand against it, and he's drawing an incredible line in the sand, setting a stage for an unprecedented showdown. The Hulk like you’ve never seen him before!!!
32 PGS. (each)/T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99 (each)

SPIDER-MAN: HOUSE OF M #2 (of 5)
Written by MARK WAID & TOM PEYER
Pencils and cover by SALVADOR LARROCA
Peter Parker may be the world-famous SPIDER-MAN, hottest celebrity of the moment, but a disgruntled employee named J. Jonah Jameson has just been handed a loaded gun…one that could destroy everything Peter holds dear. Is Peter about to pay the ultimate price for humiliating Jonah one too many times?
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

THE PULSE: HOUSE OF M SPECIAL EDITION
Written by Brian Michael Bendis & various
Art & Cover by Mike Mayhew
EXTRA, EXTRA—READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!
You’re in the world of the HOUSE OF M. Super heroes battle over your head, the flag of M waves over you—oppressing you, and the world falls apart around you. When you need to know what’s happening, who’s doing it, and where you’ll need to hide, you can count on only one source—THE PULSE!
THE PULSE: HOUSE OF M SPECIAL EDITION is the ACTUAL newspaper from the HOUSE OF M! Your best source for late-breaking-survival! Packed to the gills with House of M secrets you can't get anywhere else. Contains exclusive art and text.
12 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$.50

THE PULSE #10
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Penciled by MICHAEL LARK
Cover by MIKE MAYHEW
House of M tie-in!
A startling chapter in the HOUSE OF M saga as HOUSE OF M and NEW AVENGERS writer Brian Bendis peels a shocking layer off the mystery of the Marvel Universe that no AVENGERS fan (old or new) dare miss!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

CABLE/DEADPOOL #17
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Pencils & Cover by PATRICK ZIRCHER
"ENEMA OF THE STATE"
House of M tie-in!
So-- here it is – sort of the conclusion to the epic world-hopping story arc as Deadpool, Cannonball and Siryn desperately search for the missing Cable.
After scouring several alternate worlds and various alternate Cables, where they find the one TRUE Cable will come as a very, VERY big shock – and set up a whole new roller coaster ride for Marvel's oddest couple! (Part 3 of 3 – even though it really does continue into the next issue...)
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

ULTIMATE X-MEN #61
Written by BRIAN K. VAUGHAN
Pencils and Cover by STUART IMMONEN
"MAGNETIC NORTH" Part 1 (of 5)
Ultimate Starts Month sends Emma Frost, Alex Summers and the X-Men's greatest enemy into an epic new storyline! When teenage mutant Lorna Dane accidentally commits a horrific crime, will the X-Men protect her, or leave her to the fury of S.H.I.E.L.D.?
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP ...$2.50

RUNAWAYS #6
Written by BRIAN K. VAUGHAN
Penciled by ADRIAN ALPHONA
Cover by JO CHEN
"TRUE BELIEVERS"
It's the explosive conclusion to the Runaways' most spectacular adventure. In a final battle that will change the team's lineup forever, the Runaways confront Victor Mancha's father, the major Marvel villain who just might persuade his son to join the dark side. Plus, the mysterious benefactor behind Turbo's group of former teen heroes is finally revealed! PART 6 (of 6).
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

X-MEN #173
Written by PETER MILLIGAN
Pencils and Cover by SALVADOR LARROCA
"BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE"
Gambit and Rogue’s tumultuous relationship reaches its ultimate breaking point! Will Gambit give in to his desires and find love in the arms of another woman? Also, the X-Men consider a new member – one of their greatest foes of all time! Part 3 (of 3).
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP ...$2.50

NYX #6
Written by JOE QUESADA
Penciled by ROBERT TERANISHI
Cover by JOSHUA MIDDLETON
Alphabet City’s mutant strays are back! Kiden, Tat, Cameron and X-23 begin to uncover the what’s and why’s of their strange union, all the while unaware of Zebra Daddy’s young errand boy on their trail. But is it all a choreographed coincidence that means much more than anyone could guess? Check out the explosive new issue as we speed toward next month’s unbelievable and inevitable conclusion.
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99

NIGHTCRAWLER #8
Written by ROBERTO AGUIRRE-SACASA
Pencils & Cover by DARICK ROBERTSON
"THE WINDING WAY" Part Two: Dark Carnival
Kurt's journey along the winding way begins in earnest as he, buddy Logan, and hottie nurse Christine Palmer travel to the eerie forests of Bavaria, where our favorite blue elf was raised by the gypsy enchantress, Margali Szardos. But what are the dark forces compelling Kurt to revisit his past?
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

[xmanson]

WEAPON X: DAYS OF FUTURE NOW #1 (of 5)
Written by FRANK TIERI
Pencils & Cover by BART SEARS
Because you demanded it, Weapon X is back! The War of the Programs is over and now Director Malcolm Colcord is ready to take his plans to the next level! It’s the Weapon X you love, only now, all bets are off. Witness the beginning of the end of Frank Tieri’s Weapon X saga! Starring Agent Zero, Fantomex, Sublime, Chamber, and of course, Wolverine!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

X-MEN: KITTY PRYDE -
SHADOW & FLAME #2 (of 6)
Written by AKIRA YOSHIDA
Pencils & Cover by PAUL SMITH
The mystery behind Kitty’s trip to far-off Japan deepens when she is attacked by a whole mess of ninjas! What do these ninjas want with Kitty? And what long-forgotten villain from Kitty’s past is about to finally make his move? Part 2 (of 6).
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

ORORO:
BEFORE THE STORM #2 (of 4)
Written by MARC SUMERAK
Penciled by CARLO BARBERI
Cover by MARK BROOKS
Ororo embarks on the grandest adventure of her young life! When an archaeologist in search of an ancient Egyptian artifact seeks the services of Achmed El-Gibar's band of thieves to aid his cause, you can bet that El-Gibar's prize pupil will be leading the pack! But will an early encounter with a foe from her future leave young Ororo in over her head? The calm has ended– get ready for the Storm!
32 PGS./All Ages …$2.99

EXILES #66 & #67
Written by TONY BEDARD
Pencils & Cover by JAMES CALAFIORE
"DESTROY ALL MONSTERS" Parts 1 and 2 (of 3)
The bold new Exiles era charges forward! Old teammates are buried, and the search for a way to heal another brings the Exiles face to gruesome face with some of the fiercest monsters in Marvel Universe history!
Guest-starring KRAKOA, the island that walks like a man!
32 PGS. (each)/T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99 (each)

NEW X-MEN:
HELLIONS #3 (of 4)
Written by NUNZIO DEFILIPPIS
& CHRISTINA WEIR
Pencils & Cover by
CLAYTON HENRY
"FORTUNE AND GLORY"
What if you could get anything you wanted? Well, the Hellions have. Their biggest dreams have all come true—but with a price. The Hellions are called in to recover a secret object for the mysterious Kingmaker… but what happens when they discover the nefarious plot the Kingmaker has for it? Part 3 (of 4).
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

X-MEN: THE END – HEROES AND MARTYRS #5 (of 6)
Written by CHRIS CLAREMONT
Penciled by SEAN CHEN
Cover by GREG LAND
The saga of the final days of the X-Men continues! What is behind the long-concealed link between Gambit and Mr. Sinister…and what will it mean for Gambit and Rogue’s children?
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99

WOLVERINE #30
Written by MARK MILLAR
Pencils & Cover by JOHN ROMITA JR.
"AGENT OF S.H.I.E.L.D."
Who else wants some? Wolverine continues to dole out the punishment, and the bad boys keep lining up to get it. With his to-do list of villains to crush shrinking by the minute, Wolverine sets his sights on the brass ring: the new Supreme Hydra himself. It’s a grudge match like you’ve never seen before! Part 5 (of 6).
32 PGS./Parental Advisory ...$2.50


Thanks to 'Somebody', who posted them on the Alvaro boards.

[Fede]

i want images! :D

when are they coming out? do you know?

umm, ultimate emma and polaris... :D

the house of m is confusing...only two people know the truth...about what?
is wanda going to change the whole world reality, but they have no idea of whats happening? sorry if the question is stupid, but after all this months reading things about house of m, i still dont get it

[xmanson]

i want images! :D

when are they coming out? do you know?

No idea. Next week?

[DavidQ!]

Aaron Lopestri and Mike Ryan two of my faves on new Xmen definitely going to buy it no doubts.

[Flight]

X-MEN #173
Written by PETER MILLIGAN
Also, the X-Men consider a new member – one of their greatest foes of all time! Part 3 (of 3). This has me most interested
Who could they be talking about? Sebastian Shaw? lol

[DavidQ!]

Layla Miller? couldnt they come up with a better name.

[nubly]

i think the x-men have had too many of their villians join.

mimic, banshee, sunfire, rogue, magneto, sabretooth, marrow, sage, frenzy, white queen, juggernaut.

being a retconned hero doesnt count...

[Ant-Man]

i think the x-men have had too many of their villians join.

mimic, banshee, sunfire, rogue, magneto, sabretooth, marrow, sage, frenzy, white queen, juggernaut.

being a retconned hero doesnt count...

Mystique is the new X-Men member, and she has already been a member of X-Factor.

[nubly]

mystique? where did you hear that at?

[Flight]

i think the x-men have had too many of their villians join.

mimic, banshee, sunfire, rogue, magneto, sabretooth, marrow, sage, frenzy, white queen, juggernaut.

being a retconned hero doesnt count... Most of those circumstances were believable. Villains make great redemption seeking hereos.

And ooh, Mystique. Ok, well that ends that discussion lol Can't wait!

[xmanson]

The House of M solicitations sound awful... Wolverine is the one find the truth? Yeah... soooooo nice. Why? Because he can smell that things are weird?

[Ant-Man]

mystique? where did you hear that at?

I remember reading an interview with Peter Milligan last month, where he stated that Mystique would be appearing in future issues of X-Men. So I just assumed that it would be her.

[Flight]

The House of M solicitations sound awful... Wolverine is the one find the truth? Yeah... soooooo nice. Why? Because he can smell that things are weird? I agree. The more I hear about it, the more it puts me off

[tjarvis]

Really? I have to admit the more I hear about the House of M, the more inrigued I'm becoming.

[Beast]

Some good stuff is on the horizon. Yay. :D

[Flight]

Really? I have to admit the more I hear about the House of M, the more inrigued I'm becoming. It just sounds like a ripoff of the Age of Apocalypse to me with Legion being replaced with Scarlet Witch and Wolverine becoming Bishop

[PhoenixBoyX]

NEW X-MEN #16
Written by NUNZIO DEFILIPPIS & CHRISTINA WEIR
Pencils & Cover by AARON LOPRESTI
House of M tie-in!
"HOUSE DIVIDED" Part 1 (Of 4)
When orders come down that a leader of the human resistance in Japan must be assassinated, S.H.I.E.L.D.’s highly trained Hellions squad is called in to do it. But when a team of future mutant leaders called the New Mutants find out about this, they must intervene to put an end to a guaranteed disaster of global portions!
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99
I wonder if it'll be the original Hellions, or the new Hellions..cause from the images we've seen, it's the old New Mutants...
-Nick

[Hi-Fi]

Ultimate X-Men sounds great!! Lorna's debut!! Emma!!
i'm so happy with BKV writing this book!

[PhoenixBoyX]

Ultimate X-Men sounds great!! Lorna's debut!! Emma!!
i'm so happy with BKV writing this book!
I'm happy when BKV write ANY book.
-Nick

[jeangreydp]

:( Still no Jean.

Le sigh.

[Beast]

Ultimate X-Men sounds great!! Lorna's debut!! Emma!!
i'm so happy with BKV writing this book!
Lorna actually first appeared back in Bendis' New Mutants. :)

[PhoenixBoyX]

:( Still no Jean.

Le sigh.
Hopefully she'll be all over the place in House Of M, since there won't be an Astonishing and X-Men isn't tying in and Uncanny seems to not be about House of M in a direct sense.
-Nick

[Hi-Fi]

Lorna actually first appeared back in Bendis' New Mutants. :)

I know, but i'm really excited to discover the personality Brian will inflict to her... :)

And PhoenixBoyX, i agree...Y The Last Man, Runaways and Ultimate X-Men are 3 of my favourite books right now!

[PhoenixBoyX]

I know, but i'm really excited to discover the personality Brian will inflict to her... :)

And PhoenixBoyX, i agree...Y The Last Man, Runaways and Ultimate X-Men are 3 of my favourite books right now!

Y IS SO FLUCKING GOOD.
But back to the subject of the solictis...I wonder how X-Men will manage not to tie in...and I REALLY wanna know who the villian is...if it's Mystique, that'd be okay as she just came off her solo book and worked for Xaver for a while. I love and trust Milligan!
-Nick

[Hi-Fi]

I'm pretty sure it's mystique. Milligan said she would appear in X-Men, and if i remember correctly, she's in that group shot of House of M with the rest of the X-Men.

I trust Milligan too...i'm loving the intimist aproach of his first arc...

[streator]

yeah, my money is on mystique as well from that interview a while back.
no gambit solict... wasnt the title greenlit through 16 or something?

[Hi-Fi]

I think both Gambit and Rogue are cancelled...I'm glad Nithcrawler is sticking..it's the best out of the 3...

[xmanson]

well, the X-men arc will probably be placed before House of M (if House of M does bring the big changes promised).

[Brian M.]

Wow really not a big X Month unless it' House of M.
Pick up list:
House of M #3, #4
Secrets of House of M
Cable and Deadpool #17
Uncanny X-Men #462
X-Men # 173
X-Men: The End Book Two # 5
Wolverine #30
Ultimate X-Men #61

No Astonishing or Excalibur, almost seems like a slow X-Month. Lot of solo series gone. Can't say I'm sad.

[fishtaco]

Wow. Looks like a very exciting month!!!!!

Pull:
House of M- the internet will be split in half?eh. ok.
WeaponX- didnt read the first thing. think ill pick it up. This looks good though
Uncanny X-men- Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.
New X-men- The Hellions work for SHIELD? Aaron Lopretsi too.
Cable and Deadpool- enough said. Id never miss this. never.
X-men- whoa. I would love to see Mystique as an X-man. That would be fly
Ororo: Before the Storm- very curious as to who that villain is.
New X-men: Hellions- Who is the Kingmaker?
X-men: The End- awesome book.


Where is ROGUE and GAMBIT? Glad ASTONISHING isnt there, but EXCALIBUR really shouldnt be on hiatus. oh well. I dont think Im reading Mutopia X. Also, Where is DistrictX? Did that get cancelled too?

[iceman rocks]

X-men #173 sounds the most interesting but i cant see how rogue and gambit split up because in x-men heros and martyes they have children is that meant to be the future cause they are together in the future. anyway i hope the new team member is mystique it would be cool. where the hell is lorna and bobby they were not on the cover of issue #171 and everyone else was i hope they dont get kiled by golgotha they are my fav characters. I love Rogue she is the best and i hope she gets her powers back, but if mystique joins the team there better be a reason for why she wants to be. I hope salvador draws this comic till the end.

[Grendel0606]

X-men #173 sounds the most interesting but i cant see how rogue and gambit split up because in x-men heros and martyes they have children .
X_Men - the end is A possible future (basically the future that Claremotn would write at the moment) but it is not THE definite set-in-stone-future for the X-Men. All of the "End" series are more or less elaborate "what if " tales

[iceman rocks]

o right ok thanks for the info

[Erik Lehnsherr]

HOUSE OF M

FANTASTIC FOUR: HOUSE OF M #1 (of 3)
Written by JOHN LAYMAN
Pencils and cover by SCOT EATON
The Fantastic Four as you never could have imagined them! The trusted advisor at Magneto’s right hand is almost certainly the second most powerful man in the world. But the question is…will second-best be enough for Victor Von Doom?
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99


I knew i!. I knew Doom would be apart of this and it's even better than I dare dream...a eventual confrontation between Magneto, Richards, and Doom. Thank goodness. Magneto/Doom in '05 comes true. :D :evilsmile

[Tag06]

http://www.herorealm.com/solicits/july_marvel_THefgh5ths93nf9/

[atoningunifex]

heh heh heh...gender mixup on the uncanny cover. coolness. yay for alternate versions of characters!

[Tag06]

heh heh heh...gender mixup on the uncanny cover. coolness. yay for alternate versions of characters!

Yeah it pleases me greatly. A male Storm!!! YAY!

Like XM:The End cover!!

[iGotKittyPryde]

I'm planning on getting:
HOUSE OF M #3 (of 8)
HOUSE OF M #4 (of 8)
SECRETS OF THE HOUSE OF M
UNCANNY X-MEN #462
SPIDER-MAN: HOUSE OF M #2 (of 5)
THE PULSE: HOUSE OF M SPECIAL EDITION
THE PULSE #10
NYX #6
X-MEN: KITTY PRYDE -
SHADOW & FLAME #2 (of 6)
WOLVERINE #30

A few comments, if I can, on House of M: I'd be interested if perhaps the other person who knew what was happening was Dr. Doom, and he has to make the decision between being the right hand man of the most powerful man in the world or making things right and going back to a reality where he can still try and make himself the #1 most powerful. I dislike that Wolverine is supposedly one of the ones that knows. As I was telling people the other day, it'd make more sense if Wolverine was like, the Marvel equivelent of Batman or some such, but nothing of the sort seems to be the case. It's not even like he's one of the more powerful characters in the universe or has any powers that would lead you to believe he might be able to see through it, unless as someone suggested, he smells that something isn't right, which is a tad too hokey for my tastes.

Also, it appears that "House of M" might be the term used for the government controlling things, if the Iron Man solicit is correct.

Oh, and my bet on the old foe in the Kitty mini, having just read "Kitty Pryde/Wolverine" would be the main villian in that, who was supposedly killed at the end of it: Ogun. I suppose the plot could be that Ogun is back from the dead and trying to get Kitty 1 on 1 without Wolverine, for revenge. Of course that'd be a stretch, since it'd be using the plot of a 20 year old comic but at least it's a rather notable mini to be drawing from (being that the mini included Kitty becoming "Shadowcat", learning ninja skills, etc.)

[Grendel0606]

I'm planning on getting:
HOUSE OF M #3 (of 8)
HOUSE OF M #4 (of 8)
SECRETS OF THE HOUSE OF M
UNCANNY X-MEN #462
SPIDER-MAN: HOUSE OF M #2 (of 5)
THE PULSE: HOUSE OF M SPECIAL EDITION
THE PULSE #10
NYX #6
X-MEN: KITTY PRYDE -
SHADOW & FLAME #2 (of 6)
WOLVERINE #30

A few comments, if I can, on House of M: I'd be interested if perhaps the other person who knew what was happening was Dr. Doom, and he has to make the decision between being the right hand man of the most powerful man in the world or making things right and going back to a reality where he can still try and make himself the #1 most powerful. I dislike that Wolverine is supposedly one of the ones that knows. As I was telling people the other day, it'd make more sense if Wolverine was like, the Marvel equivelent of Batman or some such, but nothing of the sort seems to be the case. It's not even like he's one of the more powerful characters in the universe or has any powers that would lead you to believe he might be able to see through it, unless as someone suggested, he smells that something isn't right, which is a tad too hokey for my tastes.

Also, it appears that "House of M" might be the term used for the government controlling things, if the Iron Man solicit is correct.

Oh, and my bet on the old foe in the Kitty mini, having just read "Kitty Pryde/Wolverine" would be the main villian in that, who was supposedly killed at the end of it: Ogun. I suppose the plot could be that Ogun is back from the dead and trying to get Kitty 1 on 1 without Wolverine, for revenge. Of course that'd be a stretch, since it'd be using the plot of a 20 year old comic but at least it's a rather notable mini to be drawing from (being that the mini included Kitty becoming "Shadowcat", learning ninja skills, etc.)
Ogun's been around since, hasn't he, in the Kitty- Agent of SHIeld LS and in some issues of Wolverine. All forgettable stories. I wish it were another villain, but I suppose you are right.

[iGotKittyPryde]

Ogun's been around since, hasn't he, in the Kitty- Agent of SHIeld LS and in some issues of Wolverine. All forgettable stories. I wish it were another villain, but I suppose you are right.

Hmmm... didn't realize he'd been seen anytime since... haven't read "Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D." though I plan to...

But yeah, he seems like the obvious foe from the past

[DDM]

Ogun's been around since, hasn't he, in the Kitty- Agent of SHIeld LS and in some issues of Wolverine. All forgettable stories. I wish it were another villain, but I suppose you are right.

Ogun tried to possess Kitty's body in the Kitty Pride & Wolverine #1-6 limited series; Ogun failed. However, Ogun's near possession is what allowed Kitty gain her ninja skills. Kitty makes a reference to Rachel about the adventure in Excalibur #17 as she demonstrates to get out of the meat locker with a few slight moves (Excalibur's powers had been neutralized on this planet).

[iceman rocks]

Wow the cover for x-men #173 looks great does that mean rogue has her powers back? or is that meant to show how she feels about gambit wow that cover is cool. I like uncanny cover looks good like the way everything the different that male psylock looked gay lol, a male rogue thats looks cool. and most of them i like aswell.

[Crimson]

Wow the cover for x-men #173 looks great does that mean rogue has her powers back? or is that meant to show how she feels about gambit wow that cover is cool. I like uncanny cover looks good like the way everything the different that male psylock looked gay lol, a male rogue thats looks cool. and most of them i like aswell.

She's had her powers back for a while now.

[DDM]

On the Mutopia #1 cover, is that Sebastian Shaw & Emma Frost???

[xmanson]

Anyone saved the Uncanny cover??? I can't open the site here.

[Crimson]

Anyone saved the Uncanny cover??? I can't open the site here.

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/7497/uncx462cov1pp.th.jpg (http://img201.echo.cx/my.php?image=uncx462cov1pp.jpg)

Click it

[xmanson]

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Thanks a lot!!!!

Looks great.

[hbkabdul]

i think the x-men have had too many of their villians join.

mimic, banshee, sunfire, rogue, magneto, sabretooth, marrow, sage, frenzy, white queen, juggernaut.

being a retconned hero doesnt count...

when did sabertooth join the x-men?

[Hi-Fi]

Great Ultimate X-Men cover...i'm excited about Polaris and Magneto together!

[Atomic Mongoose]

On the Uncanny X-Men cover, is that Mad Jim Jaspers flying through the air between He-Rogue and Captain Britain?

[Beast]

On the Uncanny X-Men cover, is that Mad Jim Jaspers flying through the air between He-Rogue and Captain Britain?
Looks like him. :)

[xmanson]

Looks like him. :)

It's a tiny pic, but the suit looks similar.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1910

[xmanson]

The cover to X-Men kinda confirms the suspicion from a lot of people...

[nubly]

when did sabertooth join the x-men?

i think it was x-men unlimited #3. he only went on one mission with the x-men, that i can recall. i dont think he actually joined the x-men but all the interviews marvel gave prior to this issue stated that he was going to join.

[streator]

i think it was x-men unlimited #3. he only went on one mission with the x-men, that i can recall. i dont think he actually joined the x-men but all the interviews marvel gave prior to this issue stated that he was going to join.
he also fought against the phalanx with them.

[iceman rocks]

go to my website @ www.freewebs.com/dansmarvelweb then click on x-men it has some stuff just got it started also theres a preview of rogue and logans kiss.

yer the uncanny cover is weird but i like it.

[DDM]

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/7497/uncx462cov1pp.th.jpg (http://img201.echo.cx/my.php?image=uncx462cov1pp.jpg)

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Opal Luna Saturnine returns! Brian Braddock becomes the real Earth 616 Captain Britain again! Meggan! It's an Excalibur reunion...sort of.. :D

[Kid Seven]

Alan Davis. Captain Britain. Meggan. -sigh- All is right in the world.

[fishtaco]

oh my god that is the best CDP cover ever. hahaha.

Im really intrigued in the New X-men cover. That is interesting.

Can someone name some of the people in the backround of the Uncanny cover? I cant see.

[DDM]

Can someone name some of the people in the backround of the Uncanny cover? I cant see.

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/7497/uncx462cov1pp.jpg

male versions of Rogue, Marvel Girl (Rachel Summers), Psylocke, Polaris along with Black Bolt, Opal Luna Saturnine, Meggan, Sir James Jaspers, Female Thor, Hulk (previously appeared in Excalibur #50)...

I'm not sure who the flaming character is, but it is more than likely Magma.

[fishtaco]

thanks dude. Yeah, that looks like Magma. I presume she will join the XSE with Cannonball (rejoining) in Uncanny X-men 460. those are probably the old new mutants CC was talking about.

Magma, an X-man: awesome.
Mystique, an X-man: really awesome.


Domino, an X-man: now were talking

[Stagier]

ok wait
the new mutants appearing in new mutants look like the originals. well dani, rahne and ILLYANA!
young avengers kate is the new hawkeye!?!! gah!
RUNAWAYS VOL 2 is only 6 issues?!! what?!

[iceman rocks]

Thanki you if u went on my website i only just started making yesturday and i glad i had some peiople on it, it's in the making still putting loads more stuff on.

[Rachel Grey]

OMGWTFBBQ?!?!!! :eek: :(

What's with the sex changes? :(

[Bryan Rios]

OMGWTFBBQ?!?!!! :eek: :(

What's with the sex changes? :(
Best response ever.

[Sabre]

The X-Women make for some ugly, ugly men :eek:

[Rachel Grey]

Man-Rogue looks way too much like Wolverine & Man-Rachel/Marvel Boy looks disturbingly like a 20yo Rupert Grint.... God, I hope this is very temperary. In fact I hope the cover is a fake that Marvel is just using to mess with our heads.

[LoneWolf21]

Nice fanservice shot of Namor's butt for the ladies and gay men on that cover.

[venuscameback]

It just sounds like a ripoff of the Age of Apocalypse to me with Legion being replaced with Scarlet Witch and Wolverine becoming Bishop

hey Flight, where'd Thumbelina go? did she get sacked or did she leave of her own accord? Did she betray you and hook up with some other gang who tried to take y'all down? :eek: was she a traitor from the get-go, sent to infiltrate you

as for House of M, I agree with everything you just wrote

I started out with a lot of goodwill towards House Of M, despite feeling horribly let-down and ripped off by the Avengers Disassembled as a cross-over (The Avengers story itself was ... okay, but I bought most of the cross-over issues in other titles, advanced ordered them, and found almost all of them had nothing to do with the central Disassmebled story AND most of them were pretty lame stories to boot). After Disassembled i won't be buying any of the tie-in titles I don't already buy and will probably drop one or two for the House of M duration.

I'd assumed House of M would be Wanda's version of reality; it just hadn't occurred to me - and it realy should have done - that all the tie-in books would be set in that reality. Just like Age of Apocalypse.

I'll buy the first couple of issues of the House of M central mini and then consider buying more of that one title when I've read them. but these solicitations ... I've gone from cautiously looking forward to House of M to almost dreading it.


venus

[venuscameback]

Also, it appears that "House of M" might be the term used for the government controlling things, if the Iron Man solicit is correct

but one of the solicits mentions a House of M flag so I'm guessing Magneto's the emperor/king, founder of a dynasty known as the House of M.

Oh, and my bet on the old foe in the Kitty mini, having just read "Kitty Pryde/Wolverine" would be the main villian in that, who was supposedly killed at the end of it: Ogun.

I really hope not, but I agree my first reaction was Ogun. He was also the villain in the the last, Kitty Pryde: Agent of SHIELD, mini that stank. but it's hard to think of who else is a personal enemy of hers.

I'd love a great Kitty mini but the more I hear about this one the less enthused I feel - not sure if I'll pick it up or not.

Presumably Mutopia X replaces District X for the cross-over, rather than the latter having been cancelled as someone feared.

it would be cool if it was the original Hellion and the original New mutant line-ups in New mutants - i might be tempted to pick that up if that proves to be the case.

I'm curious that wepaon X is back - I wasn't aware there was any significant demand for it's return, but hopefully they will clarify the fate of many of the compound residents, such as Cecilie Reyes & Maggot, feared/assumed to be dead. If editorial or Frank Tieri planned to kill them, it was an incredibly lousy way to do it because it's so simple to writen them back into a future book. so if they are meant to be dead hopefully this series will establish that - or, better still, show them surviving. Be good to learn Leech's fate too.

I've skipped the last couple of Ultimate X arcs, I really like BKV in general but his Ult X has continued the decline I feel in that book; but this has me curious enough to give it a try again.

I'm hoping that Mystique isn't the New x-Men villain on the team; she's only worked with the team before through blackmail or control collars, never as a willing team member. i think the enforced membership for her is tired now & also we saw in her own title (#23) how mad Wolverine & Rogue were with her for attacking and gutting Xavier. Can't see them wanting her on the same team, even when they know the full story (assuming they didn't already).

Ideally Mystique will feature in the book, but it will be someone else who's the villain on the team. I like Mystique best when she's a villain, but I do trust Milligan to at least have her have her own secret, traitorous agenda if she is on the team - I'd rather he be writing her on the team than any other recurrent x-writer. His Human Target shows he's got strong insight into psychological issues of identity, and the problems Mystique should have as to who she really is, when she can appear to be anyone, could well be more entrenched and messed up than Chance's. so we could get a really good Mystique story out of this, which would be cool.

but we could get that without her joining the team.


venus

[venuscameback]

On the Uncanny X-Men cover, is that Mad Jim Jaspers flying through the air between He-Rogue and Captain Britain?


does anyone know if this Uncanny story is tied into House of M? 'cause if it's unrelated and just the Jim Jaspers Warp story then that's uber-cool for the story. but a bit daft to have two reality-changed stories running the same month.

He-Rogue looks suspocously like Wolverine to me; maybe like a What If Logan got Rogue's mutant powers when his powers emerged? heh, or maybe Rogue touched Wolverine for too long and permamently absorbed his powers and personality instead of Carol Danvers.

meanwhile it's possible that Thor's a woman on that cover, and that Polaris is male. but it's not clear enough to tell for sure. great cover though.


venus

[venuscameback]

male versions of Rogue, Marvel Girl (Rachel Summers), Psylocke, Polaris along with Black Bolt, Opal Luna Saturnine, Meggan, Sir James Jaspers, Female Thor, Hulk (previously appeared in Excalibur #50)...

I'm not sure who the flaming character is, but it is more than likely Magma.

plus Captain America and Namor, but I guess everyone recognised them to start with, hence you didn't mention them DDM.

but where's Black Bolt? Or is that who I'd assumed was a male version of Storm?

lonewolf21 - i think the butt shot would look better with clingier speedos. as it is I don't think there's anything sexy about it.


venus

okay that's me done now, someone else can post now. please.

[Grendel0606]

does anyone know if this Uncanny story is tied into House of M? 'cause if it's unrelated and just the Jim Jaspers Warp story then that's uber-cool for the story. but a bit daft to have two reality-changed stories running the same month.


venus
It is solicited as a "House of M" tie-in

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Its really cool to see Jim Jaspers on the Uncanny X men cover, but I thought Marvel no longer had the rights to use him. Does anyone know if theres been a change of heart?

Also, it looks like there is an alternate reality Rachel Summers on the cover. I thought it had been previously established in the cross time caper that no other counterparts of rachel existed?

Looks like a great issue.

[xmanson]

Also, it looks like there is an alternate reality Rachel Summers on the cover. I thought it had been previously established in the cross time caper that no other counterparts of rachel existed?


Well, that was not respected by other writers later on, so who knows...

[venuscameback]

Also, it looks like there is an alternate reality Rachel Summers on the cover. I thought it had been previously established in the cross time caper that no other counterparts of rachel existed?

Looks like a great issue.

maybe Jim Jaspers created a counterpart of Rachel et al especially for this adventure?

maybe the crosstime caper only meant that there were no alternate versions of Rachel at that time?

lol it's a weak answer, but it's the best I got


venus

[DDM]

Man-Rogue looks way too much like Wolverine & Man-Rachel/Marvel Boy looks disturbingly like a 20yo Rupert Grint.... God, I hope this is very temperary. In fact I hope the cover is a fake that Marvel is just using to mess with our heads.

Due to the Scarlet Witch & Magneto's manipulating reality, Brian Braddock & Meggan get demoted from Otherworld or orders from Opal Luna Saturnine (coming from Roma more than likely); due to reality warp, Saturnine tells Brian that he is Captain Britain once more & has to be a hero again to save the world & help return the Earth 616 reality back to normal. Since Opal Luna Saturnine maintains reality of the Earth 616 sector, Brian has little choice.

I believe Saturnine plucked the alternate heroes from other realities to help Captain Britain & Meggan.

[DDM]

does anyone know if this Uncanny story is tied into House of M? 'cause if it's unrelated and just the Jim Jaspers Warp story then that's uber-cool for the story. but a bit daft to have two reality-changed stories running the same month.

He-Rogue looks suspocously like Wolverine to me; maybe like a What If Logan got Rogue's mutant powers when his powers emerged? heh, or maybe Rogue touched Wolverine for too long and permamently absorbed his powers and personality instead of Carol Danvers.

meanwhile it's possible that Thor's a woman on that cover, and that Polaris is male. but it's not clear enough to tell for sure. great cover though.


venus

I believe Claremont is enhancing his uber-storyline with the House of M Uncanny X-Men #462-465 crossover since his original storyline involves the Fury, Jamie Braddock (plays with reality's "strings"), & maybe Sir James Jaspers (warps reality). After seeing the cover with Captain Britain, I'm relieved rather than uncomfortable about the crossover. This crossover seems to primarily be about Psylocke & Marvel Girl with Captain Britain & Meggan. I'm just so gald to see Opal Luna Saturnine!

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Crap this is the tale that Claremont has been building up to during his entire run, and now it's going to be weakened because it's going to tie into that damned House of M.

[DDM]

Crap this is the tale that Claremont has been building up to during his entire run, and now it's going to be weakened because it's going to tie into that damned House of M.

Claremont sounds very excited about these issues. Therefore, I don't think they have weakened his story at all.

[xmanson]

I guess the tie-in is that Storm, Bishop and Kurt are away.

Plus they could just mention that reality is a bit messy and that's it.

[fishtaco]

He-Rogue looks like X-man.

Why are they hyping a tie-in? A tie-in isnt something that you mention, it should be something thats always done.. Always.

It's like saying, "ooooo, we're doing some continuity! yay for us!" No! Thats how it always should be.

During the Psi-war event, every other X-book was paying attention. Cable (in Cable), X-Man (in X-man), Jean Grey (Uncanny), Emma Frost (GenerationX), and others all lost their powers because of the psi-war too that was going on in one X-title.

[DDM]

He-Rogue looks like X-man.

Why are they hyping a tie-in? A tie-in isnt something that you mention, it should be something thats always done.. Always.

It's like saying, "ooooo, we're doing some continuity! yay for us!" No! Thats how it always should be.

During the Psi-war event, every other X-book was paying attention. Cable (in Cable), X-Man (in X-man), Jean Grey (Uncanny), Emma Frost (GenerationX), and others all lost their powers because of the psi-war too that was going on in one X-title.

Aside from Secret Wars II tie-in books (the tie-ins with Secret Wars II are far more interesting than the main book), the main book should be the centerpiece of the story where the substance matters most. Tie-in books are peripheral.

[Faded]

He-Rogue looks like X-man.

Why are they hyping a tie-in? A tie-in isnt something that you mention, it should be something thats always done.. Always.

It's like saying, "ooooo, we're doing some continuity! yay for us!" No! Thats how it always should be.

During the Psi-war event, every other X-book was paying attention. Cable (in Cable), X-Man (in X-man), Jean Grey (Uncanny), Emma Frost (GenerationX), and others all lost their powers because of the psi-war too that was going on in one X-title.

Exactly. Well said

[Twigglet]

He-Rogue looks like X-man.

Why are they hyping a tie-in? A tie-in isnt something that you mention, it should be something thats always done.. Always.

It's like saying, "ooooo, we're doing some continuity! yay for us!" No! Thats how it always should be.

During the Psi-war event, every other X-book was paying attention. Cable (in Cable), X-Man (in X-man), Jean Grey (Uncanny), Emma Frost (GenerationX), and others all lost their powers because of the psi-war too that was going on in one X-title.

You would actually like the X-books to all be that closely related to each other? Think of all the trouble that would cause. Also because you read a lot of X-books it would work for you, but a lot of people only read Astonishing or Phoenix:Endsong. Why would they wanna see reprecussions from Gambit, as long as charcters stay dead, or keep the same powers, does it really matter to make all the books connected?

[Twigglet]

Crap this is the tale that Claremont has been building up to during his entire run, and now it's going to be weakened because it's going to tie into that damned House of M.

Considering Bendis himself has stated that all the writers involved in the HOM volunteered, I don't think that is much of a possibilty.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Considering Bendis himself has stated that all the writers involved in the HOM volunteered, I don't think that is much of a possibilty.

But I have no love for the House of M event.

And the story in Uncanny can still be weakened by the House of M storyline, because all of a sudden the story that's been building up in Uncanny, is sidetracked and made into a secondary event.

All that build-up, and where does it lead to? A secondary tale, fallen on the side during a big Company event, and big events are there to rob us of our money by putting out a hell of a lot of extra titles needed to understand the infernal thing.

[Bryan Rios]

Why complain about it so much? It will only be two issues that what Claremont is building up in Uncanny will be put aside. After that it will be back to whatever Claremont is doing. And since you don't care about House of M, you could drop Uncanny for those two issues and not have to worry about missing a thing.

[Twigglet]

But I have no love for the House of M event.

And the story in Uncanny can still be weakened by the House of M storyline, because all of a sudden the story that's been building up in Uncanny, is sidetracked and made into a secondary event.

All that build-up, and where does it lead to? A secondary tale, fallen on the side during a big Company event, and big events are there to rob us of our money by putting out a hell of a lot of extra titles needed to understand the infernal thing.

Wait there, who said Claremont hasn't been building up to this? If Claremont did indeed volunteer, and this has been planned for months, than it seems to me he hasn't sidetracked anything.

These titles aren't needed, and can be read alone.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Why complain about it so much? It will only be two issues that what Claremont is building up in Uncanny will be put aside. After that it will be back to whatever Claremont is doing. And since you don't care about House of M, you could drop Uncanny for those two issues and not have to worry about missing a thing.

no because James Jaspers, Jamie Braddock, Captain Britain, that is what CC has been working towards ever since the start of his run, it's what I've been waiting to read all this time.

[Grendel0606]

no because James Jaspers, Jamie Braddock, Captain Britain, that is what CC has been working towards ever since the start of his run, it's what I've been waiting to read all this time.
Taking part in the House of M storyline was voluntary. EAch writer could decide. If Claremotn decided to do so, then probably because he saw a way to clverly combine the two storylines. Kind of makes sense to me, really.
Imagine having the big reality-altering event in House of M with the Uncanny team involved and then having them meet Jaspers and Jamie. Kind of anticlimatic.

[xmanson]

House of M could be some kind of trigger, leading to the Braddock storyline.

[fishtaco]

You would actually like the X-books to all be that closely related to each other? Think of all the trouble that would cause. Also because you read a lot of X-books it would work for you, but a lot of people only read Astonishing or Phoenix:Endsong. Why would they wanna see reprecussions from Gambit, as long as charcters stay dead, or keep the same powers, does it really matter to make all the books connected?
Yes, I actually would like that. Notice that the people who star regularly in Uncanny, X-men, Astonishing, and New all live in the same freakin house! I think that people should be able to tell their own stories sure, but dont make it seem like nobody else is there.

For example, Joss should have taken some time out of most of the crap in issue #1 to have Kitty and Rachel talk about Kitty's choice to be on Scott's team, ESPECIALLY if we have already seen that Kitty doesnt agree with Cyclops's methods (X-Treme X-men 19). If Whedon is the big Claremont fan taht he claims to be, then he should have read X-Treme X-men. He didnt read any of it. It seems like the only X-men anything he has ever read is Grant Morrison's stuff, and then the Claremont/Byrne era when Kitty was new. Thats about it.

[HellFrost]

Yes, I actually would like that. Notice that the people who star regularly in Uncanny, X-men, Astonishing, and New all live in the same freakin house! I think that people should be able to tell their own stories sure, but dont make it seem like nobody else is there.

For example, Joss should have taken some time out of most of the crap in issue #1 to have Kitty and Rachel talk about Kitty's choice to be on Scott's team, ESPECIALLY if we have already seen that Kitty doesnt agree with Cyclops's methods (X-Treme X-men 19). If Whedon is the big Claremont fan taht he claims to be, then he should have read X-Treme X-men. He didnt read any of it. It seems like the only X-men anything he has ever read is Grant Morrison's stuff, and then the Claremont/Byrne era when Kitty was new. Thats about it.
Totally don't agree with. That would cause too many problems and create more delays in our books.

[Bryan Rios]

For example, Joss should have taken some time out of most of the crap in issue #1 to have Kitty and Rachel talk about Kitty's choice to be on Scott's team, ESPECIALLY if we have already seen that Kitty doesnt agree with Cyclops's methods (X-Treme X-men 19). If Whedon is the big Claremont fan taht he claims to be, then he should have read X-Treme X-men. He didnt read any of it. It seems like the only X-men anything he has ever read is Grant Morrison's stuff, and then the Claremont/Byrne era when Kitty was new. Thats about it.
Yeah... you're CLEARLY the Whedon expert and know EXACTLY what he's read, right? If you read Astonishing #1 you'd see that Kitty didn't even know why she is on his team.

[Doom Hammer]

http://www.herorealm.com/solicits/july_marvel_THefgh5ths93nf9/CABDPL017_COV.jpg

Duuuuuuuude...

[PhoenixBoyX]

Yeah... you're CLEARLY the Whedon expert and know EXACTLY what he's read, right? If you read Astonishing #1 you'd see that Kitty didn't even know why she is on his team.
12 points!
-Nick

[Hi-Fi]

Yeah... you're CLEARLY the Whedon expert and know EXACTLY what he's read, right? If you read Astonishing #1 you'd see that Kitty didn't even know why she is on his team.

Right on!

.....

[nubly]

You would actually like the X-books to all be that closely related to each other? Think of all the trouble that would cause. Also because you read a lot of X-books it would work for you, but a lot of people only read Astonishing or Phoenix:Endsong. Why would they wanna see reprecussions from Gambit, as long as charcters stay dead, or keep the same powers, does it really matter to make all the books connected?

i wouldnt mind if events that happen in an issue have a minor impact on other issues, as was explained with the psi-war event. in the 80s, everything was close. writers and editors today are too lazy to keep up with what is going on in other titles. that said, whedon is doing an ok job at astonishing but certainly nowhere the level that fanboys are climaxing about.

[fishtaco]

Yeah... you're CLEARLY the Whedon expert and know EXACTLY what he's read, right? If you read Astonishing #1 you'd see that Kitty didn't even know why she is on his team.No, I dont know exactly what he has read, and I didnt say that. I said that those books seemed to be the only things he has related to. I have read Astonishing #1, and she does know why she is on the team, and that is because Scott wanted her because she can best connect with humans because she looks human and does not have a criminal record. A good reason, but it still doesnt make sense because Cyke cant make her join his team. He decides who is on Havok's team and who is on his team, but Storm's team (whose methods she agrees with, and not Cyclops's) remains completely independant from Scott and Emma's "tyranny". My point was that either Joss Whedon did not read X-Treme X-men, or that he did read it but for some bizarre reason chose to ignore that, just so he can bring back Colossus (to no long term effect).

[fishtaco]

i wouldnt mind if events that happen in an issue have a minor impact on other issues, as was explained with the psi-war event. in the 80s, everything was close. writers and editors today are too lazy to keep up with what is going on in other titles. that said, whedon is doing an ok job at astonishing but certainly nowhere the level that fanboys are climaxing about.very well put.

[Bryan Rios]

No, I dont know exactly what he has read, and I didnt say that. I said that those books seemed to be the only things he has related to. I have read Astonishing #1, and she does know why she is on the team, and that is because Scott wanted her because she can best connect with humans because she looks human and does not have a criminal record. A good reason, but it still doesnt make sense because Cyke cant make her join his team. He decides who is on Havok's team and who is on his team, but Storm's team (whose methods she agrees with, and not Cyclops's) remains completely independant from Scott and Emma's "tyranny". My point was that either Joss Whedon did not read X-Treme X-men, or that he did read it but for some bizarre reason chose to ignore that, just so he can bring back Colossus (to no long term effect).
See, she DIDN'T know until Scott had to TELL her. Allow me to quote:
"Okay, officially really, really don't know why I'm here.. I'm not a fighter, not like you guys."
"You've been in it plenty kid. I'd take you at my back any day."
"But you're not a fighter. Your power isn't aggressive, it's protective. That's good to show. And people like you."

And uhh it looks from X-Men #157 that he's basically made everybody he's assigned stay on the teams they're on:
"Listen once because this will be the only time I say this... No adjustments will be made to the team assignments! Period!"

Not to mention this quote from Kitty in the same issue:
"Wait, I thought you didn't need me anymore?"

Way I see it, there were only two choices: Stay and be on the team. Or leave.

As for your saying you don't know what he has read:
If Whedon is the big Claremont fan taht he claims to be, then he should have read X-Treme X-men. He didnt read any of it.
Taken from your previous post.

[Schellenberg]

Holy cats, break out the stereotypes an' pass the sauerkraut: Kurt's "going home." Think this is the first time I've ever wished Paxxil or any other of those damned zombie drugs on anyone, but JEEZ, BUDDY! We like you better when you're NOT BROODING.

"Oh, ach...my...my ORIGINS."

I would love it all to bits if Kurt gets "home" to his goth-Hummel Black Forest only to find a stripmall and forty acres of boxy condos. I mean, they can't keep retconning these characters' ages and expect us to believe that he and his showbiz buddies were toodling up the damn Autobahn in horse-drawn circus wagons. It was cute when Lon Chaney, Jr. was dragging his knuckles across the Universal Studios backlot in "The Wolfman," but CENTURIES CHANGE, PAL. Any chance that anyone on this book researched how European "circus gypsies" live in recent years?

Or this: Any chance that Mystique'll fly through in an armored black-on-black Cooper S and flatten our little furry brooder? What's "roadkill" in German...?

[jdonovan]

Did anyone else notice that the prices went up on the tpb's? :evilangry