diff types of kryptonite

[wingsofdamnation]

iv missed a lot of season 3 in smallville and apparently they brought in something about black kryptonite. im not a big superman fan so i have no idea what that does to him. i like smallville alot tho and so far have noticed three different types of krptonite with their own effects on clark

green kryptonite- the usual thing that happens to superman
red kryptonite- effects clarks mentality and makes him wild and daring
black kryptonite- have no idea what the hell it does(can someone fill me in?)

if there are any others out there feel free to throw them in!

[davids]

green well you know what that does.
gold k takes away powers for ever
white is deadly to all plants and fungi
red causes strange mutations last 48 hours
blue is deadly to bizzaro's
jewel does nothing

[wingsofdamnation]

green well you know what that does.
gold k takes away powers for ever
white is deadly to all plants and fungi
red causes strange mutations last 48 hours
blue is deadly to bizzaro's
jewel does nothing
ok but what does the black one do?

[Toreador]

Actually jewel kryptonite enhances psychic abilities. General Zod and others used a fragment of jewel kryptonite to escape from the Phantom Zone.

[J-Groove]

In smallville black K was brought about at the begining of season 4, it was used to bring back a lost side of Clark, he has become Kal-El fully and Martha used the Black K to let Clark free. As far as DCU and black K..I have no idea.
-John

[Rik]

Black K never existed in the comics. However, it appears that in Smallville, it has the power to physically split or reintegrate personalities. Thus it was originally used to split "Kal" (while he was brainwashed by Jor-El into becoming an evil Kryptonian zombie) into his original self and new Borg-like self...whereupon the two battled for control while still joined at the hip, and when Clark overcame Kal, they recombined into one person (might have been interesting if they'd remained two separate people--can anyone say "Eradicator"?)
Last night, Black K split Lex into his good and evil selves (and it was pretty obvious the evil half was stronger) and later rejoined them. Apparently Black K works on earthlings as well as Kryptonians.
It is interesting to note that the in first appearance of RED Kryptonite in the comics, it did much the same thing, splitting Superboy into himself and an evil, non-super Clark Kent. And it also worked on earth creatures, spliting a butterfly/caterpillar and frog/tadpole into separate animals.

[wingsofdamnation]

Black K never existed in the comics. However, it appears that in Smallville, it has the power to physically split or reintegrate personalities. Thus it was originally used to split "Kal" (while he was brainwashed by Jor-El into becoming an evil Kryptonian zombie) into his original self and new Borg-like self...whereupon the two battled for control while still joined at the hip, and when Clark overcame Kal, they recombined into one person (might have been interesting if they'd remained two separate people--can anyone say "Eradicator"?)
Last night, Black K split Lex into his good and evil selves (and it was pretty obvious the evil half was stronger) and later rejoined them. Apparently Black K works on earthlings as well as Kryptonians.
It is interesting to note that the in first appearance of RED Kryptonite in the comics, it did much the same thing, splitting Superboy into himself and an evil, non-super Clark Kent. And it also worked on earth creatures, spliting a butterfly/caterpillar and frog/tadpole into separate animals.
thats funny cause in another red k appearance it did something totally different. it was in supermans pal jimmy olsen, and jimmy is exposing superman to red k and superman says that it made superman the opposite of what he was. 'insted of being strong and goo iv become weak and grown horns!' or something like that

[wingsofdamnation]

here we go

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/1027/400/1027_4_068.jpg

[SUPERMAN PRIME]

do u people actually like the fact that in Smallville the kryptonians are too evil ? Jor-El was never the bad guy...

[Gaz]

do u people actually like the fact that in Smallville the kryptonians are too evil ? Jor-El was never the bad guy...
Yes, Smallville is NOT the DCU we know, so things can be different and it is good drama for Clark to have to choose between being the man Jor-el wants him to be and the man Jonathan raised him to be.

[wingsofdamnation]

do u people actually like the fact that in Smallville the kryptonians are too evil ? Jor-El was never the bad guy...
i like it alot actually. it makes it seem like clark was sent there for a purpose and not just landed there accidentallly. i like the fact that clark was sent to earth to rule it.

[PatrickG]

Jor-El on Smallville has some splainin' to do. He wasn't evil when he visited Smallville in the 1963 episode. Either something changed or we're being tricked.

Black Kryptonite on the show is, I think, an homage to the Kryptonite in SUPERMAN III that was made from cigarette tar and had similar effects.

In the current comics:

Green kills Superman.

Red mutates Superman in dangerous and potentially lethal ways.

Yellow K. makes Superman age faster.

Jewel amplifies energy.

We don't know about the other colors like purple. I'm betting Blue still affects Bizarro.

[Gaz]

Jor-El on Smallville has some splainin' to do. He wasn't evil when he visited Smallville in the 1963 episode. Either something changed or we're being tricked.
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But he was arrogant and his girl did get killed and he was chased off the damn planet for it. So he might have gotten cynical and bitter as he got older.
OTOH, who wants "Jor-el" to attack Lionel or Martha and bellow "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!"? :D

[datsyuk]

That sounds pretty brutal. he doesn't stand a very good chance in many situations like that.

[Toonimator]

I think Black K only affects humans if there's energy coursing through it, like the super-heat from the experiment or Clark's vision. If the black K in the experiment had cooled down and Lex picked it up, it'd be harmless to him.

As for Jor-El, yeah, there's some explanations needed, but the last time Clark encountered his voice, in the chamber with the slots for the artifacts I think, Jor-El seemed a LOT different, not pushing Clark to rule, just to find the artifacts so he can learn the history of his people & such. A couple theories: everything up till then had been Jor-El simply TESTING Clark, to see if he was raised right (though the switch to Kal-El in the "phantom zone" or whatever seemed a bit extreme; Clark couldn't reassert himself on his own); or Jor-El up until now (maybe until the chamber scene) wasn't the real Jor-El; or his kinder demeanor was simply to emphasize that Kal NEEDS the artifacts to allow Krypton to survive in some measure, even if just knowledge.

Can't wait to find out!

[SuperSaiyaMan12]

I think Black K only affects humans if there's energy coursing through it, like the super-heat from the experiment or Clark's vision. If the black K in the experiment had cooled down and Lex picked it up, it'd be harmless to him.

As for Jor-El, yeah, there's some explanations needed, but the last time Clark encountered his voice, in the chamber with the slots for the artifacts I think, Jor-El seemed a LOT different, not pushing Clark to rule, just to find the artifacts so he can learn the history of his people & such. A couple theories: everything up till then had been Jor-El simply TESTING Clark, to see if he was raised right (though the switch to Kal-El in the "phantom zone" or whatever seemed a bit extreme; Clark couldn't reassert himself on his own); or Jor-El up until now (maybe until the chamber scene) wasn't the real Jor-El; or his kinder demeanor was simply to emphasize that Kal NEEDS the artifacts to allow Krypton to survive in some measure, even if just knowledge.

Can't wait to find out!
I think the producer of Smallville is disquising Brainiac as Jor-el, remember in S:TAS when Brainiac was a kryptonian computer which betrayed it's masters?

[Rik Levins]

thats funny cause in another red k appearance it did something totally different. it was in supermans pal jimmy olsen, and jimmy is exposing superman to red k and superman says that it made superman the opposite of what he was. 'insted of being strong and goo iv become weak and grown horns!' or something like that

True! And it did a lot of other stuff as well. Made him fat, turned him into a baby, made his hair and nails grow uncontrollably, gave him a third eye, took away his powers but gave him telepathy in their place, turned his head into that of a gigantic ant...

No, I'm not making any of that up.

Okay, then, I wasn't planning to write an essay, but here in a nutshell is Pre-Crisis Red Kryptonite 101:

Tecnically, the VERY first appearance of red K* was in a 1959 Superboy story (Adventure Comics #252). I don't really consider that to be the "true" first appearance, though. That version was just concentrated green kryptonite, which for some reason turned red, but still affected Superboy like regular kryptonite.

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/superwhoswho/kryptonite-red-adv252-06.JPG

Three issues later, a supposed Martian (who bore no resemblance at all to J'onn J'onzz) introduced another type of red kryptonite, which had the splitting effect I mentioned earlier.

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/superwhoswho/kryptonite-red-adv255.JPG

Shortly thereafter, there was a Superman story ("Superman Versus the Futuremen") in which villains from the year 2000 exposed Supes to yet another sample of red K. This one stripped him of his powers for two hours, and worked as many times as they continued dosing him with it. (Which was throughout most of the story).

Since all of these stories appeared in a relatively short time period, some fans wrote in basically asking, "Hey, make up your minds, just what DOES Red Kryptonite do?"

So it was decided (probably by Mort Weisinger) to answer, "Uh...All of the above. Every piece of Red Kryptonite has a DIFFERENT effect. Yeah, that's the ticket!"

And from then on, that WAS the official line. Soon the rules had been established as follows:

Every piece of Red K has a different effect on Superman, and it will affect Supergirl, Krypto, or any other Kryptonian the exact same way. Each piece will work only ONCE on a Kryptonian, after that he or she becomes immune to that particular sample. The effect lasts 48 hours, and then wears off. Each effect is preceded by a strong tingling sensation, so Superman can tell he's just been exposed to red kryptonite. And it causes his body to emit an aura that will also affect his clothing, so if the effect is, say, to make him invisible or shrink him to six inches tall, his costume will accompany him.

However, the writers also left themselves a convenient out: red K is totally unpredictable, and there can always be EXCEPTIONS to the rules. Sometimes the effects will last longer or shorter than the "normal" 48 hours. Some pieces CAN affect Superman more than once. And sometimes the stuff will affect Earthlings (as when a piece of red K gave Lois super-powers).

And that's everything you never wanted to know about Red Kryptonite.

*If you want to get even MORE technical, in the first comic book appearance of regular kryptonite, it was red. After that it was always colored green. No explanation given.

[Rod G]

I once wanted to introduce black kryptonite as a mineral which had the opposite effect of green kryptonite.That is,it was deadly only to non-kryptonians.

[wingsofdamnation]

True! And it did a lot of other stuff as well. Made him fat, turned him into a baby, made his hair and nails grow uncontrollably, gave him a third eye, took away his powers but gave him telepathy in their place, turned his head into that of a gigantic ant...

No, I'm not making any of that up.

Okay, then, I wasn't planning to write an essay, but here in a nutshell is Pre-Crisis Red Kryptonite 101:

Tecnically, the VERY first appearance of red K* was in a 1959 Superboy story (Adventure Comics #252). I don't really consider that to be the "true" first appearance, though. That version was just concentrated green kryptonite, which for some reason turned red, but still affected Superboy like regular kryptonite.

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/superwhoswho/kryptonite-red-adv252-06.JPG

Three issues later, a supposed Martian (who bore no resemblance at all to J'onn J'onzz) introduced another type of red kryptonite, which had the splitting effect I mentioned earlier.

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/superwhoswho/kryptonite-red-adv255.JPG

Shortly thereafter, there was a Superman story ("Superman Versus the Futuremen") in which villains from the year 2000 exposed Supes to yet another sample of red K. This one stripped him of his powers for two hours, and worked as many times as they continued dosing him with it. (Which was throughout most of the story).

Since all of these stories appeared in a relatively short time period, some fans wrote in basically asking, "Hey, make up your minds, just what DOES Red Kryptonite do?"

So it was decided (probably by Mort Weisinger) to answer, "Uh...All of the above. Every piece of Red Kryptonite has a DIFFERENT effect. Yeah, that's the ticket!"

And from then on, that WAS the official line. Soon the rules had been established as follows:

Every piece of Red K has a different effect on Superman, and it will affect Supergirl, Krypto, or any other Kryptonian the exact same way. Each piece will work only ONCE on a Kryptonian, after that he or she becomes immune to that particular sample. The effect lasts 48 hours, and then wears off. Each effect is preceded by a strong tingling sensation, so Superman can tell he's just been exposed to red kryptonite. And it causes his body to emit an aura that will also affect his clothing, so if the effect is, say, to make him invisible or shrink him to six inches tall, his costume will accompany him.

However, the writers also left themselves a convenient out: red K is totally unpredictable, and there can always be EXCEPTIONS to the rules. Sometimes the effects will last longer or shorter than the "normal" 48 hours. Some pieces CAN affect Superman more than once. And sometimes the stuff will affect Earthlings (as when a piece of red K gave Lois super-powers).

And that's everything you never wanted to know about Red Kryptonite.

*If you want to get even MORE technical, in the first comic book appearance of regular kryptonite, it was red. After that it was always colored green. No explanation given.
thanks for the info!