Superboy's Costume

[Batfan]

Is there a reason why Superboy doesn't wear a costume. I mean I don't really count jeans and a t-shirt a suit. Will he ever have one?

[Master Darque]

He did at first , during the Death of Supes arcs .... dunno why he dropped it . Guess he's growing up ...doesn't wanna be a spandex kid anymore .

[Bordnlazy]

Is there a reason why Superboy doesn't wear a costume. I mean I don't really count jeans and a t-shirt a suit. Will he ever have one?

Maybe he hates wedgies and loves pockets, i kind of dig the look :cool:

[Mon-el]

i kind of dig the look :cool:

I do as well. I think the T-shirt/Jeans is 100 times infinity better than the bowel cut and the jacket with the earring.

You got to look Superboy had a costume for 100 Issues so thats roughly what about 8 years averaging 12 Issues a year, not to mention events,like Zero Hour, Death of Superman or Team Books like Young Justice or Team Superman. We haven't had the T-shirts/jeans look barely under 2 years yet (Titans are on Issue #22). c'mon

Plus you have to look at it from Dc Marketing perspective. Most of Dc hero's sell alot of T-shirts thru use of Symbols on T-shirts. So thats another added bonus factor for Dc to sell his costume that can relate better than a uniform could.

[Batfan]

wow i didn't know the t-shirt and jeans was a popular vote. I guess I just like something a little more heroic, I mean he is Superboy. I didn't mind the first costume he had, but just without the leather jacket.

[Mon-el]

wow i didn't know the t-shirt and jeans was a popular vote. I guess I just like something a little more heroic, I mean he is Superboy. I didn't mind the first costume he had, but just without the leather jacket.

Actually I think your in the Majority of the vote and I'm in the minority, well that was going by the last time I looked at Dc Message Board and other message boards. I seen that alot of people post that they prefer a costume. Nothing wrong in liking what you like.

[Forsaken_One]

Actually I think your in the Majority of the vote and I'm in the minority, well that was going by the last time I looked at Dc Message Board and other message boards. I seen that alot of people post that they prefer a costume. Nothing wrong in liking what you like.
Of course even if you're right then they're just a majority of Internet users who care enough to post on message boards, which is in itself a minority. So it's not exactly indicative of the actual numbers of readers, regardless of how much that overall number has been shrinking.

[Mon-el]

Of course even if you're right then they're just a majority of Internet users who care enough to post on message boards, which is in itself a minority. So it's not exactly indicative of the actual numbers of readers, regardless of how much that overall number has been shrinking.

True you have a point. I don't agree with everyone or every thread. It is hard to sometimes agree with someone and not have the exact same post. Sometimes I silently agree and disagree, but everyone should have his/her/their own opinion. I think thats why I like CBR, Their are a wide range of difference of opinions on these boards. I agree its not a actual number. I was just stating that Batfan shouldn't feel wrong. I haven't looked for the topic in awhile. I was just stating that the people that do post I have seen alot of posts stating that they like prefer a costume over the Jean/T-shirt look.

P.S but we all seem to like comics.

EDIT: The board keeps going on the fritz for me and that last sentence I made was horrible.

[jetter_cheeze]

The T-shirt and jean looks fit for what his character is doing now, stripping himself down to the basics to discover who he is and how he came to be. He is superhero comic's most successful clone.

[Loren]

Superboy actually went through at least three costumes before adopting his current look.

First was the original jacket-and-fade-haircut look:

http://www.keystar-r-s.com/reviews/pics/comics/dc/Superboy.jpg

There's also the occasional variation of that outfit, with the absent jacket:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0106/29/superboy.jpg

Second, the short-lived simple jeans-and-tshirt that Kon adopted when he lost his powers:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/83650406540.78.gif

Third, the Pascual Ferry-designed costume that Kon started wearing when Joe Kelly took over his title.

http://hallofheroes.free.fr/Images/Heros/superboy.jpg

I wasn't sure about that last one when I originally saw it, but it grew on me quickly, and I didn't care to see it scrapped so that Kon could get a buzz cut and a black t-shirt.

Loren

[Brian R]

I dig that last pic, but without the jacket, to me those just dont say "superhero".

[PanzerMega]

I dig that last pic, but without the jacket, to me those just dont say "superhero".

worked for Starman.

Oh, and the t-shirt and jeans look is cool. A kid like Connor would wear something like that.

He probably wouldn't be caught dead wearing:

http://www.geocities.com/area51/shire/2545/jlasb.gif

[Loren]

It occurred to me that it probably wouldn't hurt to have a photo of Kon's current costume:

http://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aamembers/sboy3.jpg

I don't really dislike the outfit so much as the haircut. That, and the fact that Kon went from being fairly tall and thin to being stocky and buff.

Loren

[Alan2099]

He really doesn't look like the old Superboy anymore. I know they may have been trying to make him look older and more amture, but it's like they skipped straight to the Sins of Youth age. I'd prefer my Superboy to look a bit more boyish.

[west3man]

He really doesn't look like the old Superboy anymore. I know they may have been trying to make him look older and more amture, but it's like they skipped straight to the Sins of Youth age. I'd prefer my Superboy to look a bit more boyish.
Yeah. They did stop making him look boyish.

I dug the costume. The jeans and t-shirt thing seems too easy to duplicate. To me, part of what makes a costume worthwhile is the fact that it distinguishes the hero from any ol' Joe walking down the street. Sure, someone could copy it, but they'd have a harder time copying the costume than the "wardrobe" he dons, these days.

There is something KINDA cool about the t-shirt/jeans thing, but it's lacking something - especially considering the fact that he hangs with a group of teens who DO wear colorful spandex.

[Toonimator]

I think the new physique is partly to show that he can age now like everyone else, and partly to bring his powers more in line with Superman. He's still got the TK stuff, but most of Supes' powers are turning up now. Might be he'll have some actual super-strength developing as part of why he's gotten bigger? Wasn't his TK sort of a stand-in for strength before?

Not crazy about the hair. It'd gotten longer when he was with the Legion, but went right back to the short version when he got back! what gives?

[Kid Seven]

This current outift's working thus far for me. I guess it's that it seems to fit his personality. I would be above tweaking it however, as long as the general theme of 'outfit/not outfit' was kept.

[BoosterBronze]

in defense of the first Superboy costume, it was what, 1994 when that came out? That hair was considered cool then, half the dudes at my school had that exact cut.

[west3man]

I liked the original costume and pretty much every one since then.

I can't picture the one Black Zero wore, but it was pretty cool, I think.

[Loren]

He really doesn't look like the old Superboy anymore. I know they may have been trying to make him look older and more amture, but it's like they skipped straight to the Sins of Youth age. I'd prefer my Superboy to look a bit more boyish.

Good point. Superboy just doesn't look much like a teen anymore. He looks like someone in his early-to-mid-20s.

Loren

[Smokey]

maybe they're taking off smallville, superboys supposed to be 17 but is played by a 28 yr. old

[west3man]

The only Black Zero pic I could find:

http://www.challengersoftheunknown.com/Superboy64px.jpg

Not quite as cool as I remembered.

[Ned Leeds]

I think the current T-Shirt/Jeans outfit is his best one yet. The original was horrendous... even by 1990's standards.

[Loren]

maybe they're taking off smallville, superboys supposed to be 17 but is played by a 28 yr. old

Meanwhile, the guy playing Superman in the upcoming movie is only 24.

So 'Superboy' is three and a half years older than 'Superman.'

Loren

[Indy24LA]

I like the black tee and jeans, it says to me, teenager. Even if Tim, Cassie and Bart have costumes, it makes sense for a 16 year old kid to wanna be different. Especially rebel a little against Supes, who is the ultimate authority figure.

[PatrickG]

I'm not so keen on it.

I think the problem (illustrated nicely by the Lex/Clark DNA deal in Titans) is that Kon has two personalities and people are generally a fan of one or the other.

Some people like the idea of Kon as a badass ladies man with an attitude who at his best is basically The Fonz with super-powers.

Other people see him as a super-powered Huck Finn-meets-Artful Dodger. He can be a little shady and a little streetwise but he's ultimately this adventurous personification of youth with a strong conscience, sense of responsibility and longing to be accepted.

[Mon-el]

A big Thanks to Loren, West, Panzer(welcome to CBR BTW) for posting images. I hope none of you mind I post a couple of them myself.

Sins of Youth Story Arc:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/Mon-el/sb1.jpg

I know, I know, Before someone else states that Kon-El is Superman in that pic and its him grown up. It still relates to Kon-El and a costume variant of the first costume with the cape.


Titans Tommorrow storyarc: (Teen Titans #17)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/Mon-el/sb3.jpg


Again I know, Technically Kon is Superman by this point in a what if Future, But again it is Kon-El with yet another costume.



I made a list of the T-shirt/Jean look that hes appeared in the past couple of years, and its a far cry of how many appearances of the other costumes.

The Legion #24,#25,#26
Green Arrow #46
Teen Titans #1-22
Legion/Titans: Special
Superman/Batman #13
Action Comics the first couple of Austens run the number escapes me at the moment and the dreadful Repo-Man arc of Austen's/

I never liked him wearing Sunglasses either. I never understand why people wear sunglasses inside as well.

I have a friend that likes to poke fun of me for liking the T-shirt/Jean look. He tells me that since Supergirl and Superman costumes are made by Martha Kent, but no mention of Sb. Superboy's T-shirt is constantly getting ripped in about every appearance right. He keeps asking me all it would take is Lex Luthor to track downs Conner's "Secret Identity" is to hack into graffetti website and see whos buying a mass amount of Black S T-shirts.

[Mon-el]

The Legion Foundations arc: (The Legion #26)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/Mon-el/sb2.jpg

Everything is right in the world in this image(IMO). This is what makes me Love everything about the Legion from Superboy volume 1 to the new adventures to all Legions. Again technically Kon-El in a what if Future Timeline, we still don't know if that future existed or not.

[west3man]

The Legion Foundations arc: (The Legion #26)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/Mon-el/sb2.jpg

Everything is right in the world in this image(IMO). This is what makes me Love everything about the Legion from Superboy volume 1 to the new adventures to all Legions. Again technically Kon-El in a what if Future Timeline, we still don't know if that future existed or not.
So, Superboy went to that future, right?

Was it worth reading? I'd like to at least see how they got him in that Super-suit... meaning, how they CONVINCED HIM (not the actual getting in the suit).

[DMike]

The Legion Foundations arc: (The Legion #26)



Everything is right in the world in this image(IMO). This is what makes me Love everything about the Legion from Superboy volume 1 to the new adventures to all Legions.

I disagree. That whole look felt forced and very Pre-Crisis. It was like they were actually trying to make Kon into Kal, which (1) takes away from Connor's individuality as a character, (2) falls flat because they literally altered his body and facial features, made him slimmer, and grew his hair out all to make him look like the "old" Superboy.

That was my problem with that entire story: Connor's not Kal-El (even clones are different by way of environment), and that Legion's not the Preboot Legion, so it felt like everyone in the story was being manipulated into being what they were two reboots ago than who they are now.

And just for the record, if Connor does grow to full adulthood and go back to a spandex costume, the Superman Jr. look is probably the LAST one I'd want him to have. We all know DC won't have the balls to kill Superman off for good, so what's the point of having Connor look like that when it's clear that he's one of the few legacy characters who's never actually going to replace his elder? I say the more individual the better, which is why I like his current look: it's nothing like Superman.

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[Beta Ray Bill]

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[flounder588]

I dunno, i started reading comics in 1993 (when i was 12) with the death of superman arc. From that story, i was attracted to the kid's stories.

At the time, the attitude worked. If i somehow magically got super powers, i'd act like a goofball too... that's when you thought you could have everyone and anything was possible... you could still make the NBA if you only grew that extra few inches, you could become the world's best hacker if you only had the time and a new computer, etc.

As i've gotten a bit older, the kid's personality has been very immature and you saw little growth... here i was hitting 20 and i saw the kid the type of personality you deny ever having...

Enter the new costume-less style and the laid back attitude... to be honest, this fits with me and where i'm at in my life... it's the type of attitude i'd expect from an early 20 year old... similar to what i see of people after freshman year of college... So for those of us that saw superboy in his debut in 93 and 'grew up' with this version, the new direction has matured along with us.

anyways, just my 2 cents from why i like the new costume...

[Apathy Boy]

I do as well. I think the T-shirt/Jeans is 100 times infinity better than the bowel cut and the jacket with the earring.Heh. "Bowel cut?"

Well, it did sort of look like ass, so I guess that's a fair comment to make.

[Bordnlazy]

worked for Starman.

Oh, and the t-shirt and jeans look is cool. A kid like Connor would wear something like that.

He probably wouldn't be caught dead wearing:

http://www.geocities.com/area51/shire/2545/jlasb.gif

LOL he looks like a mad scientist bastard son forced to work as a Male prostitue. but in all honesty i didnt think the costume was bad back in the 90s, But i do think that his current look and attitude match up pretty good. That one posted of the future storyline if he became superman , was a really cool variation.

[The Joker]

During the 90's, Superboy looked like someone you would see off of "Queer eye for the Straight Guy" or something. I like the current look, but I agree that it's lacking something. Just not very SUPER if you ask me. Especially when everyone else on the team is wearing some type of uniform.

Although it does reflect his attitude right now. So I guess it fits for the time being. He looks COMPLETELY different from when he debuted. Body type, and all. Although making him appear more muscular probably has something to do with the fact that he's supposed to be strength wise, in Superman's league. But in the real world, it would just appear like he got on steroids or something.

[Shellhead]

He looks COMPLETELY different from when he debuted. Body type, and all. Although making him appear more muscular probably has something to do with the fact that he's supposed to be strength wise, in Superman's league. But in the real world, it would just appear like he got on steroids or something.

I think DC and Marvel no longer respect the intelligence of their fans. Strong heroes can't just have superhuman strength, they have to look like total steroid freaks. Just look what happened to Cage... he looks like a parade float these days. I blame Mark Mcguire and Barry Bonds, too, for upping the ante.

[west3man]

Heh. "Bowel cut?"

Well, it did sort of look like ass, so I guess that's a fair comment to make.
I noticed that, too.

Disgustingly humorous, it was.

[Mon-el]

So, Superboy went to that future, right?


Sorry Westman, I fell asleep watching movies last night I never got back online to answer this question.

Superboy did go to the future acutally he was forced since the Persuader kinda of just grabbed him(Remember this is only a Possible Future, Since the ending of That particular Legion title and group is still up for grabs, on what exactly did happen to them we don't know yet). This can be detailed in Titans/Legion Special. Legion #24-36, and a Titans Issue(cant think of the number at the moment).

Was it worth reading?.

Well Dc did make a Trade of the Issues (Foundations), and If I recall Numbers for the Title did seem to jump a little when Superboy came back. Alas they decided to make it a trade only after the series was cancelled so it was too little too late if you ask me. When they could have tried to make previous trades available to help the title before they decided to completely go in another direction with the re-beat.

If you ask the Legion Fan in me: I say it's worth reading.

If you ask the ordinary comic book fan in me: I would say its not great by any means. Average at best.

I'd like to at least see how they got him in that Super-suit... meaning, how they CONVINCED HIM (not the actual getting in the suit).

Actually, It was Ferro's ideal. Since Ferro is from our time, and Superboy's Black T/Jeans got ripped in battle that day. Ferro had the Anthramites(who make all the legion Costumes) make him that particular costume. Which Superboy didnt seem to mind at all wearing since he has grown up in alot of ways.

[Mon-el]

Off Topic:

DMike:

I would like to debate a couple of things of what you said in a earlier post, but that contains nothing to do with Superboy's costume. Maybe we can continue it PM's since we are comparing Pre-Crisis to Post Crisis Superboy. Not that I want to change your mind or opinion.

That whole look felt forced and very Pre-Crisis. It was like they were actually trying to make Kon into Kal

That's Exactly what I wanted to happen. Which I stated it was my opinion. I didn't think it was forced since Kon was been alive for 11 whole years before that actually took place, and gone through at least 4 costume changes before then.

Maybe if I give you a better perspective on what type of reader I am. You can see where I am coming from.

You know those comments that people make about 30 year old Silver Age Fanboys that exist: I am one of those people. I'm guilty. I grew up in the 70's on classic Comics. I was raised to have respect for history, of what came before. I have attained a run of Superboy Volume 1 for the past 25 years. I have in my collection Issues Superboy(volume 1) #37-#254. Heck, I even loved the New Adventures of Superboy in the 80's Almost all the Adventure Comics/Action dealing with Superboy/Legion run(outside a couple of Issues) including tales of Superbaby. So I am a long time Silver Age Superboy fan. I love everything about Platinum/Golden/Atomic/Silver/Bronze age comics from the smell to the way they feel in your hand.

(1) takes away from Connor's individuality as a character

Actually, It doesn't. Did 3600's Green Lanterns wearing the same exact costume as Hal Jordan take away any individual charateristic traits as a indvidual person? No, you still have Kilowog, Katma Tui, Tomar-Re, etc, etc, etc.

Did Magnetic Kid (Pol) take any individual characteristics away from Rokk(Cosmic Boy) when he dawned his older Brothers uniform? No he died heroic in battle.

Is Black Canary II (Dinah Lance) take away any of her Mother's characteristics when she wore her Mother's uniform? No shes still a completely different person.

Is Jason Todd or Tim Drake completely different from Dick Grayson? Yes, but they wore the same costume, and yet they are completely different people with each their own characteristics.

What about Barry Allen compared to Wally West....again 2 Completely different people wearing the Same Uniform each with their own different characteristics.

I can list examples all day long.

(2) falls flat because they literally altered his body and facial features, made him slimmer, and grew his hair out all to make him look like the "old" Superboy.

Ok this statement doesn't even need to be here.

Reason 1: It's a artist exspression. I seem to recall thats Batista's Superboy

Alex Ross's Superboy is drawn completely differnt from Curt Swan's Superboy to Dave Cockrum's Superboy to Alan Davis's Superboy to Steve Lightle's Superboy to Kurt Schaffenberger's Superboy, etc, etc, etc.

Reason 2: We are dealing with future timelines/parrllel dimensions/basically the space time continium.

So best examples I can give you that Worlds Finest with Bat-mite, Myzlypltz(sp?) where they entered each world and is completely different. 2. Batman TAS the Carrie Kelly DKR episdoe when they are describing bats, each was different in each of the kids eyes from a Dick Sprang's Batman to a Frank Miller's Batman. Heck I'll even make a Star Trek reference with Spock with the Goatee, from a different parellel what if universe.

And just for the record, if Connor does grow to full adulthood and go back to a spandex costume, the Superman Jr. look is probably the LAST one I'd want him to have. We all know DC won't have the balls to kill Superman off for good, so what's the point of having Connor look like that when it's clear that he's one of the few legacy characters who's never actually going to replace his elder? I say the more individual the better, which is why I like his current look: it's nothing like Superman.

Im not going to debate about Conner growing up, because that remains to be seen and it's kinda of silly to debate about something that might happen or not. I am going to debate about why can't Conner wear Pre-Crisis Superboy Uniform. To me Conner has to live up to the Legacy or the Icon of "Superboy" before being anything short of Superman again (IMO). Also (IMO) for 100 Issues he didn't even do that when he first appeared I didn't get "Superboy" I got some arrogant punk kid with a earring that has acted nothing short of a neanderthal. Since I like the new look and the change since he first appeared in TT he's acting more interesting as "Superboy" moreso than anything he's previously been in.

I want to offer a apology if any of this comes out snarky or anything. That is not my intention. Like I stated early I don't plan to change your mind or opinion. I just wanted to debate a couple of things.

[Argonaut]

You are entitled to your own opinion even if some of us differ from it.

[Loren]

Actually, It doesn't. Did 3600's Green Lanterns wearing the same exact costume as Hal Jordan take away any individual charateristic traits as a indvidual person? No, you still have Kilowog, Katma Tui, Tomar-Re, etc, etc, etc.

Did Magnetic Kid (Pol) take any individual characteristics away from Rokk(Cosmic Boy) when he dawned his older Brothers uniform? No he died heroic in battle.

Is Black Canary II (Dinah Lance) take away any of her Mother's characteristics when she wore her Mother's uniform? No shes still a completely different person.

Is Jason Todd or Tim Drake completely different from Dick Grayson? Yes, but they wore the same costume, and yet they are completely different people with each their own characteristics.

What about Barry Allen compared to Wally West....again 2 Completely different people wearing the Same Uniform each with their own different characteristics.

I can list examples all day long.

But none of these examples are quite like having two similar-looking characters run around in the same costume at the same time. Your last four examples are of one hero adopting the costume of an earlier hero who was no longer wearing it. When Wally ran alongside Barry, Wally had his own unique costume.

The one exception here is the GL uniform. But it's supposed to be a standardized uniform, not an individualized costume. And their radically different physical appearances made up for the lack of difference in their outfits.

Putting present-day Kon in a Superman costume gets a little too close to having two similar-looking characters (one who's a younger version of the other) wearing near-identical costumes simultaneously.

Loren

[west3man]

But none of these examples are quite like having two similar-looking characters run around in the same costume at the same time. Your last four examples are of one hero adopting the costume of an earlier hero who was no longer wearing it. When Wally ran alongside Barry, Wally had his own unique costume.

The one exception here is the GL uniform. But it's supposed to be a standardized uniform, not an individualized costume. And their radically different physical appearances made up for the lack of difference in their outfits.

Putting present-day Kon in a Superman costume gets a little too close to having two similar-looking characters (one who's a younger version of the other) wearing near-identical costumes simultaneously.

Loren It's not biggie for me, really, but I wanted to comment on this reasoning.

Wally's and Barry's costumes, when Wally FIRST became Kid Flash, were identical. He didn't get his own design until later - how much later, I dunno, but I've seen this information repeated time and again.

Like you said, a difference in physical size, facial features, and/or hair styles can be enough to differentiate between the two characters. Kon OUGHT to look like a teenager. If he's drawn that way, as he USED TO BE, we'd be fine. Of course, SOME teenagers are bigger than others, but I thought Superboy wasn't getting any older, in physical appearance, so...


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If I understood the context...

Someone else mentioned different artists' versions of characters as if that explains Superboy's slimmer appearance in Legion issues, thicker appearance in recent Titans issues, and 15-year-old, slim, fit appearance when he first appeared.

If the kid isn't growing, then that's not an issue. All that's left is for an artist to understand if the character is muscular or not, tall or not, broad-shouldered or not, etc. and then render that character in a way that is consistent with those traits. Sure, the face will look a little different and maybe other features will vary a little, too, but the difference between Superboy's size in his first appearance and the way he looks in recent Titans issues is due to the artist's choice to draw him bigger (as, perhaps, dictated by others).

Clearly, this artist knows how to draw slim teenagers. Look at Garth and Bart.

But CONSISTENTLY we see Kon drawn like he's a freakin' powerhouse. Maybe he's changing physically, these days, just as his powers are changing. I've noticed no one commenting about that in-continuity, though. As I recall, he does NOT have super-strength or -resistance to injury. He's just got tactile tk giving the illusion of same.

[Mon-el]

Loren: Please explain it to me, that anywhere in that post that I was quoted from, if I was comparing "Superboy" to "Superman" costume? I was comparing "Superboy" to "Pre-crisis Superboy" costume. In which by changing the costume the character did not lose any individual characteristics.

But none of these examples are quite like having two similar-looking characters run around in the same costume at the same time.

Exactly my point. Kon-El was in the 1000 years in the Future with the Legion so currently their is no Superboy in that timeline, or Superman for that matter if you want to say DC 1Million he was probably in the Sun by that point.

Your last four examples are of one hero adopting the costume of an earlier hero who was no longer wearing it.

Pre-Crisis Superboy Died fighting the Time Trapper in the Legion of the Superheroes(Volume 3, Baxtar Series) Issue #38 after he rescued the Legion and returned them to their Time, The story follows from #37 to #38. In which was found out the Time Trapper made a Pocket Universe all those years that allowed for Superboy's existence. So hes no longer wearing the "Superboy" Costume.

My examples are spot on. They explain the reason just because someone has worn a costume previously doesn't change the fact that they are completely different people. Mike said it took away from Kon-El being a individual character. All those examples prove that it doesn't.

When Wally ran alongside Barry, Wally had his own unique costume.

One can argue that Barry Allen is still in the Future with Iris, racing back to 1985 to die in Crisis. But Wally has worn the Barry's Costume in Crisis #12 and if your currently reading Flash he has gone back to wearing Barry's costume if you notice the lightning bolt around his waist is a straight line. West pointed out that Wally wore a smaller uniform when he first became Kid Flash.

The one exception here is the GL uniform. But it's supposed to be a standardized uniform, not an individualized costume. And their radically different physical appearances made up for the lack of difference in their outfits.

Green Lanterns: I thought someone would pull the uniform card on me. But its still a costume considering the mask. Until the Green Lantern Special almost every Green Lantern(humaniod and theirs quite a lot of them) wore the same costume. That is until Green Lantern became the Saga of the Green Lantern Corps.

Tim wore Jason Todd's costume to help Batman does it change the fact that Tim and Jason are completely different characters? No

Future:Magnetic Kid was alive at the same point Cosmic Boy before he died. They still looked alike and had similar costumes. Still 2 different characters with 2 different personalities.

I tell you what I'll do I will list a simplistic example for you if thats what you want. A character that looks exactly like Superboy,same costume, same time. (drumroll please) And the simple answer goes to MATCH. Again 2 completely different characters that look the same and have the same exact costume in the same time period.

Putting present-day Kon in a Superman costume gets a little too close to having two similar-looking characters (one who's a younger version of the other) wearing near-identical costumes simultaneously..

I am not discussing the "Superboy" to "Superman" costume. I am discussing the reason why can't Conner wear Pre-Crisis Superboy outfit. The issue that it was revealed in was the future in Legion(different Time so its not simultaneously). I am trying to stay on topic considering Superboy's Costume. Comparing Kon-El to Superman is a whole different topic altogether.

Let me ask this Pre-Crisis question: Was it really so hard or difficult to tell the difference between Superman to Superboy? :eek: