OT: Lost

[jnapper]

I'm such a geekgirl, I want a Lost thread-- gonna go snag earlier Lost postings in the OT thread and move 'em here. I really dig the show and want to share it with fellow HB pals who might like it too.

If this thread gets little or no use, I'll just merge it into the general OT thread again.
(If you don't like the show, just don't read the thread-- thanks!) :)

Here's an example of a spoiler-- you can read the words by clicking and dragging across the space to reveal the spoiler:
Vincent the dog is really in control of everything.

To write using spoiler code:
[spoil*]Your text goes here.[/spoil*]
Just remove the *'s to make it work.

BTW, the color Lemon Chiffon is not a universal spoiler color for the forum-- some people use a blue theme instead of the CBR theme. ;)

[jnapper]

(THE MERGED POSTINGS START HERE)

Alz knows I love the ABC show "Lost"-- he sent me this link a sec ago, it's a set piece, no spoilers, mostly about food on the set.

I thought it was cool, so I wanted to post it here!

Paste the URL into your media player: (FILE/Open URL)
http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/buildlist.asp?f=96688419&a=0,30&sid=8795295&m=wmv&r=300&l=SAV

video came from here:
http://insider.tv.yahoo.com/celeb/2004/11/17/losthomemovies/index.html

[el seth]

:D

I've never seen the show, but this one made me want to check it out. Now all I need is cable...

[Petersen]

I really enjoy lost. I just always end up missing it. Good thing is that ABC has been taking a night every few weeks to replay several episodes back to back. And it's much more satisfying that way.

[KoryBing]

The only thing I know about "Lost" is from Penny Arcade. I've never seen an episode (not on purpose, it's just that I don't watch TV too often anymore).

The only show I've been able to watch with any regularity on Network TV has been Scrubs. I love that show.

[jnapper]

I really enjoy lost. I just always end up missing it. Good thing is that ABC has been taking a night every few weeks to replay several episodes back to back. And it's much more satisfying that way.

Haven't seen the first part of the Pilot episode yet, so I'm psyched to swipe this from another forum (via Elias) and post here too--

LOST schedule, check for times when closer to the airdate:

Nov 24-(pre-empted)
Dec 01-New! "Raised by Another"
Dec 08-New! "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues"
Dec 15-Repeat "Pilot-part.I."
Dec 22-Repeat "Pilot-part.II."
Dec 29-(pre-empted)
Jan 05-New! "Whatever the Case May Be"
Jan 12-New!
Jan 19-Repeat
Jan 26-Repeat

"I have no idea of the accuracy of this information but here is the apparent broadcast schedule"

[alz]

cool! thanks for the PILOT info

[Maija]

I've been trying to resist getting into new TV shows and Lost sounded to serial to try to jump into after having missed a half dozen episodes, but I sculpt with the TV on and needed something to fill a one hour void and so watched Lost the other night. Apart from being a bit confused about characters and their backgrounds, I got into it. Now I'll have to catch up on the rest in repeats.

Damn you! Damn you all! Another hour of my life given over to television!

[gary bolt]

Morna and I used to watch so much tv that it was beginning to turn us into slacked jawed zombies. So last winter we cancelled our cable. Before long Morna discovered this here forum and now, well... brains, must have brains.

[Maija]

I don't have cable either, but regular broadcast picks up most of the big shows anyway. I went for three months this summer without even plugging in my TV but now I'm back to 5 hours a week, which is still not bad: DaVinci's Inquest, Corner Gas (Canadian shows, for those wondering), CSI, Joey (guilty pleasure), Simpsons, King of the Hill and now, I guess, Lost, although it's not grabbing me enough that I'd be bummed if I missed an episode. I've already managed to stop watching CSI:NY without feeling like I'm missing anything and I may do the same thing with Lost. It's entertaining, but it's no X-files or Millennium. All the CSIs are already feeling like all the Law & Orders: entertaining but mindless cookie-cutter repetition of the same basic plot. So I might as well just watch one, if I'm going to watch any. And lately if I miss the Simpsons I really don't care.

Of all of those DaVinci's Inquest is the only one I'd kick myself for missing an episode of.

Oh and I LIE. I tape and watch The Daily Show every night. That adds two hours!

But I can sculpt while watching TV. It gives me something to rest my eyes on as they get tired doing so much close work.

[gary bolt]

We thought we'd still get one or two channels without cable but we don't get any. Not even crappy reception. Nothin'.

[Maija]

Yeah, see I still get CTV, CBC, A-Channel, Global and Access (the Alberta Education Station, which construes shows like Monk and movies like Men in Black as "educational"). Between them, they pick up most of the shows from U.S. broadcast AND cable.

But if I had cable I would lose a huge chunk of my life to the Food Network and Discovery Channel. And PBS. Still, I had free cable in my apartment for a year and a half (Shaw didn't disconnect after the last tenants, which I've been told they do on purpose to get you hooked on cable, but for a year and a half?) I had 70 channels and really, there wasn't much more on than with 5 channels. So although the day I came home and turned on the TV to a blue screen was a bit tragic, I got over it rather easily.

Oddly, I can't pick up the French CBC at all, which bums me a little bit, because I like watching their weird game shows and trying to understand what's going on.

[Tad]

But if I had cable I would lose a huge chunk of my life to the Food Network and Discovery Channel.


Or maybe you'd be doing 5 hours of scuplting a day! Think of the output.

I enjoy LOST, I'm constantly missing episodes and don't stress about it but it's neat when I do.


It's no X-Files (sigh).

[gary bolt]

We cancelled our cable in September and got free service for five or six months. I got sucked in by news channels, food network (Iron Chef rocks!) three or four daily Simpsons time slots, nature shows, That 70's Show, etc., etc., etc. I'm glad to be rid of it. When I travel and stay in hotels I turn on the tv and can't believe how thin its entertainment value is. And commercials, holy smokes, if you don't have your brain tuned to tv they are incredibly annoying. Still, I do sometimes miss it. It's a perfect "off switch" after a brutal day.

[Maija]

Yes, I should add that if I had SPACE and Scream Digital, I'd be wasting additional hours watching repeats of X-Files and Millennium.

Re: commercials-- I tape most shows and watch them later, just because of this, even if I'm home at the time. Poor woman's TiVo. It means I waste 44 minutes of my day rather than 60.

Meanwhile, I've just spent a big chunk of time here. I'd better get on with my day!

(At least there are stimulating human beings here and it's not just a one-way brain melt. Just Morna eating my brain. :p)

[jnapper]

Alz sent this to me, don't know where it came from-- might be Dark Horizons or something.

No new LOST until Februrary!
"For those of you who haven't seen the entire series so far, this is your lucky time of year as the show goes on temporary hiatus. Starting December 15th, the show will rerun from the Pilot (in full), and continue down the line until the target date of February. From there, they'll start with Episode 11 called "Whatever The Case May Be" and finish out the season on time in May with however many episodes they decide to finish off the season with."

[jnapper]

Here's my bump (to remind anyone who was interested) that the LOST repeats start tonight.

"Starting December 15th, the show will rerun from the Pilot (in full), and continue down the line until the target date of February."

:)

[Maija]

And for Canadian viewers, CTV is running the Lost repeats in two-episode blocks, back-to-back. So set your VCRs accordingly.

I got sucked in at last a few weeks ago so I'm glad they're repeating the episodes so soon!

[jnapper]

Quoted:

“Hurley’s just a nickname I have. Why? I’m not tellin’.”
“Back home? I’m known as something of a warrior myself.”
“I am very good. I took 17th in a tournament once.”

“Lost” returns from its month-long hiatus on Jan. 5 (the first episode of 2005 leads into the fourth-season premiere of “Alias”), and there’s loads of intriguing elements to which we can look forward.

SPOILER:
Claire and her abductor will remain hidden, Jin’s wife will vanish, the giant monster will return in three episodes, we’ll learn a shocking truth about Shannon and Boone’s past, and Drew Goddard is scripting the next Sawyer-centric ‘sode.

How things appear to shake out now, flashback-wise:

1.1-1.2 Flight’s End
1.3 Kate
1.4 Locke
1.5 Jack
1.6 Jin & Sun
1.7 Charlie
1.8 Sawyer
1.9 Sayid
1.10 Claire
1.11 Jack II
1.12 Kate II
1.13 Boone & Shannon
1.14 Michael & Walt
1.15 Charlie II
1.16 Sawyer II?
1.17 ?
1.18 Hurley

That’s right. Hurley will be the last of the regulars to get a flashback episode. And he doesn’t get it until Jack, Kate, Charlie and likely Sawyer have had two. Series co-creator Damon Lindelof visited the Fuselage fansite Tuesday night and promised we’d get “a SHOCKER of a flashback” for young Hugo Reyes.

End Quotes (from where I don't know) :)


(Danks for sending this, Alz!) :)

[fitzroy]

It's from AICN, God bless them. great show.

[jnapper]

I've been trying to figure out Hurley's backstory on Lost-- to the point that I started looking for spoilers. :p

I couldn't find any on Hurley, but these sites have a-plenty per other characters:

DO NOT CLICK LEST YE BE WANTIN' A SPOILIN' !!
http://www.spoilerfix.com/lost.php
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&cat=6

[fitzroy]

I want to read but must not. Lost is terrific.

[jnapper]

I want to read but must not. Lost is terrific.

The second link above, http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&cat=6
is a gallery index of promotional images (listed by episode).

If you think about of it, it's sorta like watching the teaser trailer at the end of the show?

(jnapper tries to tempt you into looking!)

[fitzroy]

The second link above, http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&cat=6
is a gallery index of promotional images (listed by episode).

If you think about of it, it's sorta like watching the teaser trailer at the end of the show?

(jnapper tries to tempt you into looking!)

Don't usually see the teaser, as it's usually a bittorrent file that I watch. we haven't got Lost in the UK yet.
Still want to see.

[jnapper]

Televisionwithoutpity can be both very bitter and very funny--

Here are Lost recaps for anyone who wants to catch-up in detail.
http://televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=136

[Deathstroke]

You know we have an official Lost Season 1 thread over on the CBR TV/Film Board. Lots of discussion going on there.

[jnapper]

You know we have an official Lost Season 1 thread over on the CBR TV/Film Board. Lots of discussion going on there.

Here's a direct link to the thread on the TV/Film Board:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=20952

(If this thread doesn't get much use, I will merge it back into the general OT thread.)

[gdeo]

Yeah I agree w/ everyone,this show is great!

[jnapper]

Aw, I just love Terry O'Quinn-- I thought this was great!
http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/11050/X-Pose90_5sm.jpg

[Maija]

Aw, I just love Terry O'Quinn-- I thought this was great!
http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/11050/X-Pose90_5sm.jpg
Thanks for that, jnapper! I'm so glad that TOQ has got this gig. I think Locke is my favourite character.
...Lost, although it's not grabbing me enough that I'd be bummed if I missed an episode. I've already managed to stop watching CSI:NY without feeling like I'm missing anything and I may do the same thing with Lost. It's entertaining, but it's no X-files or Millennium.
Oh how the worm has turned... I'm very irritated that when they did the big set of re-runs they didn't re-run Sun's episode and the one right after the pilot-- the only ones I haven't seen now. At least they're following the X-files model and providing decent ep summaries afterwards. They're building on the X-files internet model by having an official site run by the people who make the show! Pretty cool, though I wonder how long they'll be able to keep that up as the show's popularity balloons.

I still don't think it's an X-Files or a Millennium... yet... but I'm sure dug deep into it now. The payoff had better be good though!

Thanks for the thread too!

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Thanks for starting this thread, Jonell. I am also obsessed with 'Lost'. John Lock is the most enigmatic character to me, even though I can pretty much understand him at this point. Wasn't that actor also in 'Millenium'?

I just love how each backstory is unfolding, and I can't wait to see how it all resolves. Each character has such a complicated past. I just devour the story with my eyes and ears.

Elements of one of the subplots are very, very similar to a story I wrote (not for public consumption - yet), and I'm waiting to see how it resolves. I hope it's not like my story!

That happened to me before (my same story) on a Star Trek episode. While I was watching it, I figured out what they were doing, and said to myself, "Dang! There goes my plot!!! It's already been done!"

Arg.

Andrea

[Pam Cakes]

Thanks for starting this thread, Jonell. I am also obsessed with 'Lost'. John Lock is the most enigmatic character to me, even though I can pretty much understand him at this point. Wasn't that actor also in 'Millenium'?
Yep, Terry O'Quinn played Peter Watts in that great show, Millennium.

[alz]

If like Terry's Locke character on the LOST, you'll probably love his character Peter on MillenniuM! Equally spooky.

[Maija]

Heh. Until I got the character name "Locke" properly in my head I kept thinking of him as "that Peter guy". I think a big part of my attraction to Lost has to do with the comforting reminder of Millennium that comes from having TOQ there.

...as weird as it may seem for there to be ANYTHING "comforting" about Millennium. :evilsmile

But TOQ's doing an awesome job with the character. He's not Peter, that's for sure.

[jnapper]

Speaking of Millennium, I was just surfing on Amazon-- I didn't even know Millennium - The Complete Second Season DVD was released on January 4!! Aw man, I still don't have Season One!

Season One (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000244E2O/hellboycom01)

Season Two (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000667HBS/hellboycom01)

I loved how an Amazon-user gave Season Two five stars and wrote:
"I almost gave this 4 stars. Almost. Till I remembered this is TELEVISION for gosh sakes."

[Maija]

I don't have Season 1 either. I asked for it for Christmas but no one came through. :evilangry I'll just have to save up my pennies I guess, for Season 2 also. I can go without Season 3 for quite some time though. Morgan and Wong did a pretty good job of ending the series at the end of Season 2, and Peter comes to a bad end in Season 3... as played by Terry O'Quinn, as seen in the series Lost. There, back on topic. :p

[alz]

Okay, so it's my selfish little day dream -- to have another Locke background story and have Lance Hendrickson play one of the flashback characters :)

[fitzroy]

It could be Locke as a young boy. and Lance as his scout master.

[Pam Cakes]

Okay, so it's my selfish little day dream -- to have another Locke background story and have Lance Hendrickson play one of the flashback characters :)
Yeah!! I love it! :D

[Maija]

Okay, so it's my selfish little day dream -- to have another Locke background story and have Lance Hendrickson play one of the flashback characters :)
That would be AWESOME!!!

I don't think Lance is too busy these days. They should call him up.

Personally I think LH would make a great crazy guy who's been trapped on the island for 20 years.

Wait! Even better: the Island is an experiment run by the bad side of the Millennium Group--it's an environment somewhere between The Trumann Show and The Prisoner-- and Frank's the only one who knows what's goin' on! ;)

Well, a girl can dream, can't she? :rolleyes:

[alz]

hehe -- he'd fit in great -- just look at his "Father" character in "No Escape"

http://www.bylancehenriksen.com/film-career-photos/filmcareer-no-escape-500w.jpg

He's even visited Hawaii with his wife -- so it's familiar territory! :P

http://www.bylancehenriksen.com/film-career-photos/filmcareer-lance-jane-240w.jpg


btw... why is NBC's Medium on TV and MillenniuM not?? (a show about a woman who see's dead people and past events, and is afraid that her daughter is going to have similiar powers). Seems like a more prime-time-friendly version of MM.

[jnapper]

The Island is an experiment run by the bad side of the Millennium Group

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pam Cakes]

Y'know, I love that idea. At very least, they could use it when it's time to finally end "Lost". It would be reminiscent of the great ending for "Newhart". :D

[jnapper]

Y'know, I love that idea. At very least, they could use it when it's time to finally end "Lost". It would be reminiscent of the great ending for "Newhart". :D

Pam Cakes, that was one of my all-time favorite endings for a show :)

AND...
Not that anyone is going to forget, but LOST is on tonight! :)

[Pam Cakes]

Not that anyone is going to forget, but LOST is on tonight! :)
So is Fox's new show about the Jersey Devil--possibly at the same time (not sure).

[jnapper]

Type of info listed:

Episode 1.14:
Special
(Michael and Walt flashbacks)
Airdate: January 19, 2005 (TONIGHT)

Here's the rest for 15-19


Episode 1.15:
Homecoming
(Another Charlie flashback)
Airdate: February 9, 2005

Episode 1.16:
Outlaws
(Sawyer has a second flashback)
Airdate: February 16, 2005

Episode 1.17:
...In Translation
(Possible Jin flashback)
Airdate: February 23, 2005

Episode 1.18:
Numbers
(Episode 18 is a Hurley flashback)
Airdate: March 1, 2005

Episode 1.19:
Title Unknown
(Locke-centered episode)
Airdate: Winter 2005

from http://www.spoilerfix.com/

[jnapper]

Over on the Lost thread in TV/Film, Conn Seanery posted some interesting tidbits per the cast:

Example:
Yunjin Kim (Sun) initially read for the role of Kate. She wasn't right for the role, but the producers liked her so much that they created the Korean couple for her.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=858186#post858186

[jnapper]

So is Fox's new show about the Jersey Devil--possibly at the same time (not sure).

Is this the show you were talking about? The website looks cool:
http://www.fox.com/pointpleasant/

It says it starts at 9 PM, right after Lost-- will check it out :)

[Shadowfax32]

Is this the show you were talking about? The website looks cool:
http://www.fox.com/pointpleasant/

It says it starts at 9 PM, right after Lost-- will check it out :)

Another ep of Point Pleasant airs tomorrow at 9 at its regular day and time.

Michelle

[Pam Cakes]

Well that first ep of Point Pleasant was pretty lame, but last night's Lost was great (although the CG work didn't look so hot). :)

[jnapper]

Lost, ABC, Jan 26 08:00pm
Series/Drama, 61 Mins.

"Solitary"
Sayid's life is threatened after he discovers the source of the mysterious French transmission; Hurley concocts a funny plan to bring civility to the island.
(Original Airdate: November 17, 2004.)

Note that Yahoo TV says that this 61 minutes-- I thought my VCR was totally wonky when it wasn't catching the full show sometimes.

--------

Lost, ABC, Feb 02 08:00pm
Series/Drama, 60 Mins.

"Raised by Another"
Jack, Kate and Charlie begin to wonder if Claire's nightmares are coming true, threatening not only her life, but the life of her unborn child.
(Original Airdate: December 1, 2004.)

[jnapper]

No spoilers, just some great/beautiful/hilarious/over-the-top Lost avatars:
http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/

http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/11172/thumb_lockenobi.png
http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/10039/lost.JPG

PLUS Vincent!!!
http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=16

[Celtic_Fiddler]

No spoilers, just some great/beautiful/hilarious/over-the-top Lost avatars:
http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/

http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/11172/thumb_lockenobi.png
http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/10039/lost.JPG

PLUS Vincent!!!
http://www.thefuselage.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=16

Love it, Jonell! I like "I hear dead people" LOL I may have to use that one.

Andrea

[jnapper]

Love it, Jonell! I like "I hear dead people" LOL I may have to use that one.

Yeah, that made me giggle too!!!

If there was a way to subscribe to see each and every new one, I'd do it!

[Mike Cross]

Ruta, Jonell, i just read on my digital cable that Robert Patrick (Xfiles, T2) will be appearing in flashbacks as Sawyer's partner every time he does a flashback..cool Xfiles, Millenium related stuff..i'm pretty psyched

Mike

[jnapper]

Ruta, Jonell, i just read on my digital cable that Robert Patrick (Xfiles, T2) will be appearing in flashbacks as Sawyer's partner every time he does a flashback..cool Xfiles, Millenium related stuff..i'm pretty psyched

Mike

That's awesome! Thanks for the head's up, Mike!

[Maija]

Spiffy! I really liked Robert Patrick in S8 & S9. Glad to see him get a cool little gig on Lost.

Thanks for the info Mike!

[Pam Cakes]

Ruta, Jonell, i just read on my digital cable that Robert Patrick (Xfiles, T2) will be appearing in flashbacks as Sawyer's partner every time he does a flashback..cool Xfiles, Millenium related stuff..i'm pretty psyched

Mike
Excellent but underused actor. Will be nice to see him again!

[alz]

Yeah -- I was really suprised how much I liked him in the last X-Files seasons. He turned out to be a really cool guy with great presense!

(not as cool as Lance, though! hahaha)

[Pam Cakes]

Yeah -- I was really suprised how much I liked him in the last X-Files seasons. He turned out to be a really cool guy with great presense!

(not as cool as Lance, though! hahaha)
I agree on both points, alz. Lance = Cool. :)

Frankly, I was kinda bitter about Mulder's disappearance from the show, but I ended up really liking the darkness of Patrick's John Doggett.

[Maija]

Here's an article on Lost. It doesn't provide any new information, just synopses of the episodes so far and speculation on what's really going on. If you haven't seen any episodes so far, this contains SPOILERS:

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2005/01/30/914824.html

It's interesting to read the speculation (and it makes me realize there are details from episodes that I've missed). Personally I'm curious to see how much more like Lord of the Flies this gets. Maybe they're not in some other un-earthly place, but an earthly place with paranormal powers present and it's ultimately going to become a grim Lord of the Flies conflict. They've already got two camps, there are pigs, there's a monster somewhere in the interior of the island. though in the book it turned out to be a harmless (because it was dead, though not completely harmless in life) thing symbolic of "we have met the enemy and it is us".

Locke has reminded me a lot of the character Simon in the book. Though Simon was not a survivalist, he was the philosopher who tried to see the reasonable way through things. Unfortunately, he gets killed in the book. I hope this doesn't happen to Locke.

(This makes me want to dig up my high school essay on Simon. Ha!)

When a group of the survivors begins to make tribal-religious overtures with pigs-heads-on-sticks then it will be obvious. ;)

[Maija]

ACK!! I was just searching Zap2It to see when the next episode is and found it, with a SPOILER-IFIC episode synopsis:


Title: Lost
Episode: Homecoming
Description: Claire returns with no recollection of the plane crash or anything that has happened since; Jack and Locke formulate a plan to defend Claire against her kidnapper, who threatens to kill off other survivors unless Claire is returned to him.

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Here's an article on Lost. It doesn't provide any new information, just synopses of the episodes so far and speculation on what's really going on. If you haven't seen any episodes so far, this contains SPOILERS:

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2005/01/30/914824.html

It's interesting to read the speculation (and it makes me realize there are details from episodes that I've missed). Personally I'm curious to see how much more like Lord of the Flies this gets. Maybe they're not in some other un-earthly place, but an earthly place with paranormal powers present and it's ultimately going to become a grim Lord of the Flies conflict. They've already got two camps, there are pigs, there's a monster somewhere in the interior of the island. though in the book it turned out to be a harmless (because it was dead, though not completely harmless in life) thing symbolic of "we have met the enemy and it is us".

Locke has reminded me a lot of the character Simon in the book. Though Simon was not a survivalist, he was the philosopher who tried to see the reasonable way through things. Unfortunately, he gets killed in the book. I hope this doesn't happen to Locke.

(This makes me want to dig up my high school essay on Simon. Ha!)

When a group of the survivors begins to make tribal-religious overtures with pigs-heads-on-sticks then it will be obvious. ;)

Great link, Ruta. I didn't read any spoilers of the ones I hadn't seen yet, so I'm safe.

Mira Furlan (Danielle)!! Babylon 5!!! Knew I'd seen her somewhere before! (or has this been discussed before? I'm late to the party.) And she's 4 years younger than I am. :D Great character.

Danielle says in response to Sayid's warning about the monsters: 'There are no monsters'. As if I weren't totally hooked before, now I'm salivatin'.

The theories are interesting, and I can see merit in all of them, but I'm trying like heck not to form any opinion.

Is it Wednesday yet???

Andrea

[jnapper]

Ever trying to tempt everyone with spoilers, this site really does have some cool ones :p
http://www.spoilerfix.com/lost.php

[alz]

bummer -- all sold out of the LOST night:

http://www.mtr.org/

[jnapper]

bummer -- all sold out of the LOST night:

http://www.mtr.org/

Hahahhahaha-- is Alz all caught up on Lost? ;)

[Shadowfax32]

The first season of Lost is coming to DVD in September.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=2877

Michelle

[Maija]

That was the third episode in a row that made me say "HOLY SH*T!!" out loud. (When Charlie, um, took care of things).

Next week: John J. Doggett, Ass-kicker of the Unnatural, saves them all! I mean Robert Patrick does some criminal stuff with Sawyer or something!! EEeeeeeeeee!

[alz]

I was so into it until Charlie did his thing. That like popped the bubble for me. It was too clean & simple and like a scape goat or something.

Actually I thought I didn't even think it was anyone in the crew -- but some other unknown person in association with Ethan. THAT woulda' been cool!

It was REALLY great leading up to that point. All those people come barrelling in, and pointing things (trying not to give away spoilers) in the rain. And ... ooo... Doc getting his 2cents in, and then some!

Very nice action moment for the series!

(and what was up with Mr.never-seen-before-so-I-have-no-pity-for guy? They could have atleast had him prance around for a couple of previous episodes)

(LOST is still the top show for me!)

:P

[Pam Cakes]

Well, while the flashback tried to explain why he did it, I still don't think that the writers should've given Charlie the cojones to actually do what he did in last night's episode. I think it would've been better (read: "more interesting to me") if he'd "failed" (in his mind, anyway) again.

As for the mystery of Ethan, I love that when he was first introduced, it was as a Canadian. Beware, Yanks: we are everywhere and we look just like you and we are not as harmless as you think!! ;)

Hafta confess that I have no idea who "Scott" is. Then again, I think I'm not the only one: even Hurley hadda apologize for having continally called him "Steve"!

[Mike Cross]

Sorry regarding this..editing per Fitzroy and Ruta

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Remember the weirdness of this island..i get the feeling he's not going to "stay" dead..he could potentially be an all-purpose bad guy. Until they show a rotted corpse, i figure his body will go missing or something.

Mike

[fitzroy]

Remember the weirdness of this island..i get the feeling he's not going to "stay" dead..he could potentially be an all-purpose bad guy. Until they show a rotted corpse, i figure his body will go missing or something.

Mike

Well, thanks for not spoiling anything, JEEZ.
Could you use hidden text next time?

[Maija]

For anyone posting spoilers, you can hide text using the "spoil" tags:

{spoil}This is my spoiler information.{/spoil}

but use square brackets instead of the curly brackets. So you get:

This is my spoiler information.

[Maija]

(and what was up with Mr.never-seen-before-so-I-have-no-pity-for guy? They could have atleast had him prance around for a couple of previous episodes)
I agree. The biggest fault I find with the show right now is that there are 47 survivors on the island and yet there only appear to be 14. Other people hardly even show up in the background! I know they don't have time for developing any other characters and don't want to make it any more complicated than it already is, but just more people walking around in the background is all I ask.

Of course, if they did have Scott/Steve prance (ha!) around for a couple of previous episodes then they'd fall into the "Red Shirt" trap, where if a character you've never seen before suddenly has lines you expect they're probably going to die in the next episode or two. I was actually kind of hoping a teensy bit that they'd kill off a main character.

Also I agree that it was deflating that it turned out to be Charlie that did the shooting. I said "HOLY SH*T" at the moment of Ethan getting shot and expected it was going to be revealed as some cohort of Ethan's

Thus endeth the spoiling.

[alz]

A funny tag for the webmaster if people get rowdy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/alz/Locke.jpg

[Maija]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Does she have a suitcase full of knives too? :eek:

[Celtic_Fiddler]

A funny tag for the webmaster if people get rowdy!

ROTFL! Good one alz!



I loved that Charlie was the one to shoot Ethan. It shows his growth as a character; he started out as a failure, unable to take care of himself or anyone, and now he has proven to himself that he can take care of Claire. Maybe Claire thinks he can, too.

More than anything, these characters are going through redemption of the tragedy of their lives, that to me is the connecting thread throughout the series.

I can't wait for the next new episode.



Andrea

[jnapper]

A funny tag for the webmaster if people get rowdy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/alz/Locke.jpg

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA!!
I LAUGHED OUT LOUD WHEN I SAW THAT!!!

I could actually hear Locke saying it-- that soooo totally made my day!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Does she have a suitcase full of knives too? :eek:

HA!

[alz]

http://www.driveshaftband.com/


cooooool.... even has album covers!



http://www.driveshaftband.com/Charlie4.jpg

[Celtic_Fiddler]

cooooool.... even has album covers!

Too cute - I like the article where they talk about 'missing Charlie - he would have been 28 today'.

Andrea

[jnapper]

http://www.driveshaftband.com/
HAHAHAHA! COOL!

unrelated to Charlie:
My sister mentioned this to me today, just a bit of trivia I was oblivious to.
(I bet everyone else knows):
William Mapother (who plays Ethan Rom) is Tom Cruise's cousin-- their dads are brothers.

I'm not really a fan-fan per se of Tom Cruise-- he's never been a box-office draw for me-- but I think William Mapother does a great acting job on LOST.
(i.e. He totally scares the heck out of me.)

BTW, I may have posted this earlier, but a few weeks back I read on one of the LOST websites that Ethan Rom is an anagram for 'Other Man.'
(Remember how the psychic said that Claire's baby should not be raised by another/an other?)

[jnapper]

A relatively spoiler-free note about an event on LOST that the writers have said from the very beginning was going to happen this season to one of the characters, but we don't know who.

If you know what I'm talking about, it's safe to read it. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, avoid.


PS. I edited out two items that hinted more-- I've eliminated it to eight
people and I DREAD to think it's who I think it's gonna be!!

"________ is not the one who will die. But I can tell you that this
person is well-loved, well-featured and well-- doomed. It is one of
the fourteen series regulars-- and the episode is guaranteed to make
you bawl your ever-lovin' eyes out."

[jnapper]

That was a good episode of LOST! (Actually, they all seem to be good) :)

The whole Sayid giving Sawyer a hard time KILLED ME!!

[Pam Cakes]

That was a good episode of LOST! (Actually, they all seem to be good) :)

The whole Sayid giving Sawyer a hard time KILLED ME!!
I, on the other hand, would prefer more Locke and Hurley. :)

[jnapper]

I, on the other hand, would prefer more Locke and Hurley. :)

Hahahhahahah-- Pam Cakes, it's so ironic that you said that, I love those characters probably the most(?)--
Alz was saying yesterday "you're always talking about Hurley." :D

(His "we'll be running through the woods screaming" speech to Charlie was awesome!)

[Maija]

For an episode that didn't have much to do with Locke, he still had a good part in it. He's the super-cool guru, man! He even comes with coffee!

"That would be silly!"

HA!!

Too bad Robert Patrick could keep his NY accent from creeping into his Southern accent, but really too bad he had such a small part. At first I thought he might turn out to be Sawyer's target, but I guess he's not old enough anyway.

Poor Sawyer!

Everyone on the island has their big suitcase full of guilt, except maybe Claire, who's rather innocent, and Locke, who's giddy just to be alive. Oh yeah and I bet Rose could ignore Lostzilla too.

Has Jack heard the whispering? I don't remember. It seems like everyone who has a "ghost" in their past hears the whispers in the jungle. I guess Jack seeing the apparition of his father is a similar manifestation.

The island is also shaping up to be a big zoo of symbols, what with all the loaded animals: dog, polar bear, moth, boar.

As for Lostzilla, maybe it's your own monster and if you don't have any personal monsters, it's not a threat. Therefore, I wonder what the pilot did? :eek:

[Pam Cakes]

Hahahhahahah-- Pam Cakes, it's so ironic that you said that, I love those characters probably the most(?)--
Alz was saying yesterday "you're always talking about Hurley." :D

(His "we'll be running through the woods screaming" speech to Charlie was awesome!)
Any character who makes references to the undead is right up my (bent) alley. LOL, Hurley and I would get along... ;)

[Pam Cakes]

For an episode that didn't have much to do with Locke, he still had a good part in it. He's the super-cool guru, man! He even comes with coffee!

"That would be silly!"

HA!!
Yeah, I might get along really well with Hurley, but I'd hook up with Locke. Love that vibe he's got goin'... The man is King of Competence! :D

Too bad Robert Patrick could keep his NY accent from creeping into his Southern accent, but really too bad he had such a small part. At first I thought he might turn out to be Sawyer's target, but I guess he's not old enough anyway.
I was hoping for a bigger part, too... :(

[Celtic_Fiddler]

I loved last night's episode. So much stuff happening!



I was so not expecting what {guy who was on Nash Bridges} said to Sawyer. O... My... God.... SetupSetupSetup.

I can't wait to find out the exact part Sawyer played in the death of Jake's dad.

After watching the previews for the next episode, a sudden idea came to me as to which one will die! :eek: I hope I'm wrong!! And it will be very sad! But it makes so darn much sense, story wise...



Andrea

[Maija]

Re: what Andrea said...

//I was so not expecting what {guy who was on Nash Bridges} said to Sawyer. O... My... God.... SetupSetupSetup.

Do you mean Jack's Dad or the shrimp-truck-man-who-is-not-the-real-Sawyer?

//I can't wait to find out the exact part Sawyer played in the death of Jake's dad.

I think the *only* part he played in Jack's dad's death was buying an alcoholic a bottle of whisky. Wasn't it established that he died of liver failure? Otherwise I think Sawyer's connection with Jack and his father is limited to the fact that Sawyer could tell Jack that his father didn't hate him and was proud of him and relieve Jack of his guilt. Sawyer saw Jack's dad in the bar and presumably never saw him again. It was said repeatedly in the episode that killing is not what Sawyer does. He wrecked himself by finally killing and killing the wrong man.

They all live on Onion Island, where everybody has many many layers. I bet when Lostzilla isn't roaring and knocking over trees he's knitting mittens for the homeless. :p

[Maija]

Those little airplane liquor bottles sure hold a lot. :)

[Petersen]

"I never...drank so much out of so little"

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Re: Reply to Ruta:

//I was so not expecting what {guy who was on Nash Bridges} said to Sawyer. O... My... God.... SetupSetupSetup.

Do you mean Jack's Dad or the shrimp-truck-man-who-is-not-the-real-Sawyer?

I mean shrimp-truck-man-who-is-not-the-real-Sawyer.

//I can't wait to find out the exact part Sawyer played in the death of Jake's dad.

I think the *only* part he played in Jack's dad's death was buying an alcoholic a bottle of whisky. Wasn't it established that he died of liver failure? Otherwise I think Sawyer's connection with Jack and his father is limited to the fact that Sawyer could tell Jack that his father didn't hate him and was proud of him and relieve Jack of his guilt. Sawyer saw Jack's dad in the bar and presumably never saw him again. It was said repeatedly in the episode that killing is not what Sawyer does. He wrecked himself by finally killing and killing the wrong man.

I wonder if there isn't more to the story than that. He may have accidentally killed him, or witnessed his death. Just the look on Sawyer's face when he realized who Jake's Dad was made me think we're probably going to see more.

BTW, I think Lostzilla is connected to the hatch that was found by Locke and cute young guy (what's his name?) I think it's a left over secret experiment from WWII. Probably related to Rasputin..... ;)

[Pam Cakes]

Re: Reply to Ruta:

//I was so not expecting what {guy who was on Nash Bridges} said to Sawyer. O... My... God.... SetupSetupSetup.

Do you mean Jack's Dad or the shrimp-truck-man-who-is-not-the-real-Sawyer?

I mean shrimp-truck-man-who-is-not-the-real-Sawyer.

//I can't wait to find out the exact part Sawyer played in the death of Jake's dad.

I think the *only* part he played in Jack's dad's death was buying an alcoholic a bottle of whisky. Wasn't it established that he died of liver failure? Otherwise I think Sawyer's connection with Jack and his father is limited to the fact that Sawyer could tell Jack that his father didn't hate him and was proud of him and relieve Jack of his guilt. Sawyer saw Jack's dad in the bar and presumably never saw him again. It was said repeatedly in the episode that killing is not what Sawyer does. He wrecked himself by finally killing and killing the wrong man.

I wonder if there isn't more to the story than that. He may have accidentally killed him, or witnessed his death. Just the look on Sawyer's face when he realized who Jake's Dad was made me think we're probably going to see more.

BTW, I think Lostzilla is connected to the hatch that was found by Locke and cute young guy (what's his name?) I think it's a left over secret experiment from WWII. Probably related to Rasputin..... ;)


Ack! Quit it with the spoilers--not only is the temptation to peek driving me crazy, but you can see all the stuff within the spoiler tags if you try to respond to a post containing 'em!! LOL!

Just. Stop.

;)

[Maija]

Why are you replying to a post that is a spoiler when there's nothing to see to reply to if you're not reading spoilers?

Easy solution: don't use the "quote" button on a spoiler post. Just reply to the thread and say "In reply to what So-and-So said..." instead. ;)

If we're not discussing what happens on the show, what's this thread for?

[Pam Cakes]

Why are you replying to a post that is a spoiler when there's nothing to see to reply to if you're not reading spoilers?
Exactly! Exactly! I told you it was driving me crazy!!

(I was just kidding around... sorry, guess that wasn't clear.) ;)

[jnapper]

Those little airplane liquor bottles sure hold a lot. :)

Hahhahahahahah!!! I knew something seemed funny/strange to me when I was watchin' that-- I couldn't place it. :)

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Ack! Quit it with the spoilers--not only is the temptation to peek driving me crazy, but you can see all the stuff within the spoiler tags if you try to respond to a post containing 'em!! LOL!

Just. Stop.

;)

Sigh. Oooookaaaaaaaay :p

Andrea
:)

[fitzroy]

Wasn't it great when Jack and Sawyer fought the lion with their shirts off, then Charlie sang a song about Polar bears whilst Boon made gooey eyes at Locke? The French woman turned out to be Sayid's dead lover in disguise and Jin told her husband in English that she loved Hurley and wanted babies.

No?

Oh poo, forgot the spoiler tags.

I'm bored.

[Maija]

Oh poo, forgot the spoiler tags.
You EEEEDiot!!! You just gave away next week's episode!! :evilangry

[fitzroy]

Sorry Ren (or was that Stimpy)

What about the episode after that when Ethan turns out to have been a clone, and an army of Ethan's turn up and sing Ging Gang Gooley around the camp fire

[jnapper]

Ethan turns out to have been a clone

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Sorry Ren (or was that Stimpy)

What about the episode after that when Ethan turns out to have been a clone, and an army of Ethan's turn up and sing Ging Gang Gooley around the camp fire

:eek: you mean like this???

Ethan? (http://www.thehalloweengroup.com/clown.jpg)

Andrea
I sure have been using :eek: alot.....

[Maija]

:eek: you mean like this???
Now THAT would be freaky.

Fitzroy, you just gave away the plot to Andrew Lloyd Webber's LOST: The Broadway Musical featuring such hits as

Bringin' Home The Bacon (Locke's Song)

I'm briiiiiiingin' home the bacon
On my own two feet
With a smile that's sweet
I'm brrriiiiiiingin' home the bacon!

I'm the most sublimely Zen
Of all this island's men
Of all who did survive
I'm just glad to be aliiiiiiiiiiiive

And I'm bringin' home the bacon
BRINGIN' HOME THE BACON!!
On my own! Two! Feet! (his own two feet!)
With a smile! That's! Sweet! (smile that's sweet!)
I'm bringin' home the bacon!
I'm(He's) brrrrrrinnnnginnnnnn' hoooooooommmme the baaaaacon!!!

Up next: The Sushi Song: Don't Be Besmirchin' My Urchin/My Ass For A Bass (Hurley and Jin duet):p

Okay I really gotta get back to work!

[fitzroy]

HAHAHHAA

Clown's scare me. It's the big feet and the ability to fit many of themselves into a small car fro comedic effect.

The monster turns out to be a small child growling into a bucket whilst rattling a small shrub.

Sorry to spoil it for everyone.

What's in the bunker?

[Petersen]

Bringin' Home The Bacon (Locke's Song)

and you claim not be a writer......

[Celtic_Fiddler]

What's in the bunker?

It would be a WWII-era natzie scientific laboratory. You see, them scientists were left there when the war ended, and didn't realize that, so they jest kept up with the experiments. There's some talk that Rasputin.... aw well.... you know....


;)

Andrea

[fitzroy]

So, not everyones hopes and dreams then?

Nice to have an Office reference in the 2nd Charlie episode.

"he's buying some paper company in Slough"

[jnapper]

"That would be silly!"

Funny pic for ruta!

(From The Fuselage)

[Maija]

HAHAHAHA!!

That's awesome!

I need that on a coffee mug or somethin'.

[D'ohboy]

My wife missed it so I figured I'd post it.

It was Hurley.

Anybody out there fluent in Korean that could translate the t.v. audio?

[Tad]

Yes, I did. Looks like everyone on the island was interconnected in some way. It looked like a news report to me.

[Tad]

But here's how I'd end Lost. Everyone is working out their issues, finally finding their karmic balance. The last person to open up, finally does. Maybe it's Jack.

Then he opens his eyes and he's on the plane again. (Oh no, not a dream. "Wait," I say, "there's more.") For a moment, the audience has the pain of a cliche ending. Then all the characters we know look at each other. A cheer goes up! Hugging and dancing in the aisles. Even Locke is okay being paralyzed again because that was something he had to work out on the island. People change seats because of the new couples dynamic. Kate is chained to the marshall again but her lover hugs her, "We'll get through this."

Then there's a jolt.

Massive decompression. (Oh no, not "Here we go again." "Wait," I say, "there's more.") Horror. Fear. Crash. Someone we don't recognize wakes up on the beach. It's the same feel as the first episode. The person looks down at a body. It's Jack.

Then in the jungle, a monster roars.


See, I'd like to understand "why" they're on the island but not who or what is behind it. I want a feeling of closure but with a Twilight Zone twist. Anyway, that struck me last night and who else was I going to tell?

[jnapper]

> Anybody catch ______ on the Korean television?

I missed that! Will have to re-watch my VCR!

[alz]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/inherentvla/Misc%20Comics/polarbear1.jpg

[Tad]

Okay. Granted. Ending the series with Green Lantern fighting a giant polar bear might be a bit cooler than my idea.

As long as the audience doesn't get confused by the mention of Jay and Alan.

[Athena]

Is that Island they're on like a floating Island? I was just wondering with the beach eroding at such a fast rate, and the map that Sayed (sp) got from the craaaaaazy french lady being all wrong. They made a big thing of it not long back, but it hasn't been mentioned since.
Oooooh, and the song "somewhere, under the sea" maybe that relates to where the bunker might go or something. Maybe it's an island where the American government are trying to create super soldiers out of animals, like polar bears and gorillas, and the wild boars were the sentries. Or have I been reading too many of Fitzs' comics?
Seriously, though, the best TV I've seen for some time.

[Pam Cakes]

Okay, umm, this is gonna be a bit off-topic in this already off-topic thread, but since MillenniuM has been mentioned a few times in reference to Lost's magnificent Terry O'Quinn, check out the MillenniuM discussion board (http://www.tiwwa.info/) if you're into that great old show. Also, The Millennial Abyss (http://www.fourthhorseman.com/Abyss/) is a fascinating site with detailed plot synopses and background info on each episode.

[jnapper]

Okay, umm, this is gonna be a bit off-topic in this already off-topic thread, but since MillenniuM has been mentioned a few times in reference to Lost's magnificent Terry O'Quinn, check out the MillenniuM discussion board (http://www.tiwwa.info/) if you're into that great old show. Also, The Millennial Abyss (http://www.fourthhorseman.com/Abyss/) is a fascinating site with detailed plot synopses and background info on each episode.

Coolness, thanks Pamcakes :)

Also, here's an older thread on Millennium/ Lance Henriksen too
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=8573&highlight=lance

Both Lance Henriksen and "Jack, Kate and Charlie" (in a panel) were at SDCC 2004! Did anyone who went to SDCC 2004 catch the panels, etc?

[Celtic_Fiddler]

> Anybody catch ______ on the Korean television?

I missed that! Will have to re-watch my VCR!

Yes! Like Tad says, they are all interconnected.

Watched a little blurb/interview this morning; the cast members are so far away from civilization they had no idea the show was so popular.

Andrea

[Celtic_Fiddler]

See, I'd like to understand "why" they're on the island but not who or what is behind it. I want a feeling of closure but with a Twilight Zone twist. Anyway, that struck me last night and who else was I going to tell?

I like it, Tad. If they don't end it like that, you should write a story with that kind of ending.

Andrea

Now I'll probably be disappointed with the real ending.... :rolleyes:

[fitzroy]

Last Lost tonight until April 13th, poo

It's all about Hurley

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Wasn't last night the COOLEST episode?? And then at the end: :eek:

And then Hurley said to Sayid: "She says, 'hey'.

LOL

Andrea

[alz]

GAW! That last ending image!!!

[Pam Cakes]

Oooooh, and the song "somewhere, under the sea" maybe that relates to where the bunker might go or something.
S'not "under the sea"--it's "beyond the sea", which (I think) seems like a pretty good description of this particular island...

Read the story (http://www.jacklawrencesongwriter.com/songs/beyond_the_sea.html) behind the song here, for details about its French origins as "La Mer" ("The Sea") and how it was adapted into "Beyond the Sea" and became a big hit for Bobby Darin.

The original French lyrics:

La Mer

La mer
Qu'on voit danser le long des golfes clairs
A des reflets d'argent
La mer
Des reflets changeants
Sous la pluie

La mer
Au ciel d'été confond
Ses blancs moutons
Avec les anges si purs
La mer bergère d'azur
Infinie

Voyez
Près des étangs
Ces grands roseaux mouillés
Voyez
Ces oiseaux blancs
Et ces maisons rouillées

La mer
Les a bercés
Le long des golfes clairs
Et d'une chanson d'amour
La mer
A bercé mon coeur pour la vie


And the adapted lyrics:

Beyond the Sea

Somewhere beyond the sea
Somewhere waitin’ for me
My lover stands on golden sands
And watches the ships that go sailin’.

Somewhere beyond the sea
She's there watchin’ for me
If I could fly like birds on high
Then straight to her arms I’d go sailin’.

It's far beyond the stars
It's near beyond the moon
I know beyond a doubt
My heart will lead me there soon.

We'll meet beyond the shore
We'll kiss just as before
Happy we'll be beyond the sea
And never again I'll go sailin'.

I know beyond a doubt
My heart will lead me there soon
We'll meet … I know we'll meet … beyond the shore
We'll kiss just as before.

Happy we'll be beyond the sea
And never again I'll go sailin'.

No more sailin' …
So long sailin' …
Bye, bye sailin'...
Move on out, captain …
So long, ensign …

[fitzroy]

Did anyone else notice the Hurley/Locke connection?

Hurley owned the box company Locke worked for.

Information attributed to the eagle eared Athena

[jnapper]

Hurley owned the box company Locke worked for.

Yeah, I loved that :)

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Did anyone else notice the Hurley/Locke connection?

Hurley owned the box company Locke worked for.

Information attributed to the eagle eared Athena

No kiddin'! I totally missed that. Wow.

I sure hope that there is a new season and they call it 'Found', and that the following happens:

Hurley's fortune hasn't been stolen by his accountant

Locke gets a Officer's position in the box company and fires the pipsqueak who was his manager

Claire and Charlie get married, Charlie adopts Claire's baby, and starts a wildly successful solo career

Sayed and Shannon get married, Sayed becomes a security consultant in L.A. and becomes wildly successful

Sawyer and Kate start a security business (wildly successful) and fall in loooooooove

Sun and Jin rekindle their love, move to L.A. and start a new wildly successful business

Boone finds his real life path and true happiness

Michael starts a design/build company in NYC, becomes wildly successful - rivaling Trump - he and Walt live happily ever after

Matt joins the Harvard medical faculty as a medical ethicist, and changes the medical profession forever (and for the good)

Oh. And I think Lostzilla is a land submarine with a foghorn attached!! LOLOLOL


Andrea
I just love happy endings, that's all. :)

[Pam Cakes]

No kiddin'! I totally missed that. Wow.

I sure hope that there is a new season and they call it 'Found', and that the following happens:

Hurley's fortune hasn't been stolen by his accountant

Locke gets a Officer's position in the box company and fires the pipsqueak who was his manager

Claire and Charlie get married, Charlie adopts Claire's baby, and starts a wildly successful solo career

Sayed and Shannon get married, Sayed becomes a security consultant in L.A. and becomes wildly successful

Sawyer and Kate start a security business (wildly successful) and fall in loooooooove

Sun and Jin rekindle their love, move to L.A. and start a new wildly successful business

Boone finds his real life path and true happiness

Michael starts a design/build company in NYC, becomes wildly successful - rivaling Trump - he and Walt live happily ever after

Matt joins the Harvard medical faculty as a medical ethicist, and changes the medical profession forever (and for the good)

Oh. And I think Lostzilla is a land submarine with a foghorn attached!! LOLOLOL


Andrea
I just love happy endings, that's all. :)
Pollyanna.

;)

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Pollyanna.

;)

Believe me, I know. But these days, that's the contrarian position! :D

Andrea

[jnapper]

(No theories attached to this, just an observation.)
A sec ago, I was watchin' a past episode and realized that many of the episodes have an opening shot of a closeup of a character's eye.

Being totally ridiculous, I went through each one-- here are the results:

Episode 1.01 - Pilot, Part 1 - Opening shot is closeup of Jack's eye
Episode 1.04 - Walkabout - Opening shot is closeup of Locke's eye
Episode 1.05 - White Rabbit - Opening shot is close up of Jack's eye (as a child)
Episode 1.06 - House of the Rising Sun - Opening shot is closeup of Sun's eye
Episode 1.10 - Raised by Another - Opening shot is closeup of Claire's eye
Episode 1.13 - Hearts and Minds - Opening shot is closeup of Boone's eye
Episode 1.14 - Special - Opening shot is closeup of Michael's eye
Episode 1.16 - Outlaws - Opening shot is close up of Sawyer's eye (as a child)
Episode 1.17 - In Translation - Opening shot is close up of Jin's eye

That leaves Charlie, Shannon, Walt, Sayid, Hurley, and Kate.

I should eat lunch and stop thinking about Lost! :p

[Maija]

Cool observation, jnapper! I did not notice that.

Then there's Claire's dream of Locke with one white eye and one black eye.

Which means that backgammon must signify too.

I'm afraid most things on this show signify. It ties up my brain! :p

Oh yeah, and check this out: http://www.dxing.com/numbers.htm

[Pam Cakes]

Cool observation, jnapper! I did not notice that.

Then there's Claire's dream of Locke with one white eye and one black eye.

Which means that backgammon must signify too.
...or Go. ;)


I'm afraid most things on this show signify. It ties up my brain! :p

Oh yeah, and check this out: http://www.dxing.com/numbers.htm
Ack. Creepy.

[Celtic_Fiddler]

Oh yeah, and check this out: http://www.dxing.com/numbers.htm

I had heard about this long, long ago. I guess the 'old spy' network is still going on strong.

Thanks for the link - verrrrrryyyy iiiiinnnnnnteresting!

Andrea

[jnapper]

Some fun Lost "cast" clips from Lost-Media.com:
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

Fave's:
2005 On the Set w/ GMA (part 1 of 2) (Funny)
2005 On the Set w/ GMA (part 2 of 2) (Funny)
Unicef PSA (Sawyer, Hurley, and Locke)
2005 Jimmy Kimmel LOST Set Visit (Funny)
William Mapathor on E! (Ethan Rom!)
2005 Terry O'Quinn on The View (It's The View, so it's just a typical interview--)

[jnapper]

Oh yeah, and check this out: http://www.dxing.com/numbers.htm

That was wicked cool, Ruta!

[shonokin]

Ack. Creepy.

Exactly what I thought too! :eek:

[Celtic_Fiddler]

So, last night, I was watching the scene with Hurley and Walt playing backgammon. At the end of the scene, Walt says, "Hey, you owe me $20,000", and Hurley rolls his eyes and says, "You'll get it".

When I first watched this episode a few months ago, I just thought Hurley was being sarcastic, as if to say "Yeah, sure, kid." But last night, now that we know Hurley is fabulously wealthy, his answer had a much different meaning to me!

That is what's so cool about this series: even seeing the episodes a second time, you get some new, deeper meanings.

Andrea

[fitzroy]

Lost will be back sooner than expected

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=19637

[jnapper]

From spoilerfix.com:

ABC will air a one-hour "introductory guide" to Lost. The special is designed to help new viewers catch up on the series' sometimes dense mythology as well as act as a refresher course for regular fans. The "Lost" special, set to air on Wednesday, April 27 at 8:00/7:00c (the show's regular time period), will focus on the characters of Jack (Matthew Fox), Kate (Evangeline Lilly), Locke (Terry O'Quinn), Sawyer (Josh Holloway) and Charlie (Dominic Monaghan) and retell their respective backstories in a linear fashion. It's unclear however how the clips will be introduced and if the hour will include any "behind-the-scenes"-type footage.

[Celtic_Fiddler]

I have April 27th marked in my planner - thanks, Jonell.

More Fun with Lost Numbers:

Wheee (http://www.dodoskido.com/archives/001609.html)

Andrea

[jnapper]

Lost is a new episode this week!

If you haven't seen the trialer on TV yet, you can go here (advance to the second page) and download the RealMedia file for "1x19: Deus ex Machina Preview Trailer"
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2

[jnapper]

My nerd girl observation for the morning--
Hurley's Lottery numbers:
4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42

48 survivors
of
Flight 815

I wonder if we will see 151 or 1516, etc. as meaningful numbers. Like Chapter, Verse from the Bible or something.

Also, I just read this at http://www.tvtome.com/Lost/guide.html:
Per last night's episode, "Deux Ex Machina"--
The title of Chapter 48 of Watership Down is "Dea ex Machina." (Watership Down is the book that Sawyer was reading that came from Boone's suitcase.)

[Celtic_Fiddler]

My nerd girl observation for the morning--
Hurley's Lottery numbers:
4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42

48 survivors
of
Flight 815

I wonder if we will see 151 or 1516, etc. as meaningful numbers. Like Chapter, Verse from the Bible or something.

Also, I just read this at http://www.tvtome.com/Lost/guide.html:
Per last night's episode, "Deux Ex Machina"--
The title of Chapter 48 of Watership Down is "Dea ex Machina." (Watership Down is the book that Sawyer was reading that came from Boone's suitcase.)

The writers are having lots of fun with numbers.

Did you notice, in last night's episode, how many things were red (ala M. Night Shamalayan)? The folder that had the info about John's father, the picture frame, John's car.

Gawd I loooooooooooooove this show!

Andrea

[gdeo]

Do the symbols on Boone's shirt mean anything?

[Maija]

Well that was lame.

My faith in Lost has finally been shaken. I knew it had to stumble eventually but in the episode that contained what ought to be pivotal plot points? I would have liked to have been left puzzling about something.

It needed more Lostzilla or something. I won't say more than that so I don't spoil it for others.

And now we have to wait until May for new episodes. :mad:

[Maija]

By the way, my brother liked this episode, so if you haven't seen it yet, it may be that it's not as bad as I took it to be. I just expected more labyrinthine weirdness.

Also, if you haven't seen the episode yet and you want to be completely unspoiled, avoid any and all entertainment news articles about Lost until you do see it as the few articles I've seen just this morning give away everthing in last night's episode, often in the first sentence. :p

[Petersen]

you are not alone Ruta. I was bored by it as well. I'm getting bored by the show as a whole. While I like being strung along through a plot..I expect to be rewarded. I think Locke is the only really interesting character where the backstory is as riviting as the current timeline (other than the numbers fun with Hurley).

Every preview I see for the next episode makes me think 'Oh boy! this is it, that episode will be incredible' when in fact..it ends up being lots of filler with a few brief minites of the unusual/unexpected.

I hope the season finale is worth hanging in there for.

[jnapper]

Wow!! Petersen, even though I wasn't happy about the main event, I was absolutely riveted the entire show!!

It contained one or two personal phobias for me, so maybe that played into it--

Overall, there hasn't been a single show that hasn't kept me glued every second it was on-- or not made me think about it the next day.

It's really interesting/cool how viewing experiences can vary so wildly!

I didn't cry during Boone's death though-- that surprised me. I cry while watching heavy moments in movies/tv.

The one thing that did bother me was the "Circle of Life" theme-- I wish Claire's baby had been born at a different point.

[Maija]

I've been consistently entertained by this show up until this episode, and even while I was watching the episode, I was rivetted too, but rivetted because I was on the edge of my seat waiting for something typically Lost-like to happen.


There was nothing that left me wondering "What the heck did that mean?" or "What's the significance of that?" or simply "Whoa! Freaky!"

Although there was heaps of tension built up that suggested a derailment of events-- something would interfere with the birth of Claire's baby or it would be born with an alien head, Boone would wheeze something that reveals more about the significance of his dead nanny or something or Shannon would come to his side and freak-out and make some creepy revelation--nothing happened. Everything that happened I knew was going to happen from the episode trailer. Even the backstory about Jack revealed very little new information.

I think though that maybe this is the eye of the storm. The writers got to a pivotal place where they had to address two major plot points that will have a signifant effect on the remainder of the season and they didn't have time to do much more than get them out of the way. I agree that they tried too hard to build symmetry between the Birth and the Death and their connecting theme of commitment/letting go. I think they could have at least had one cut to dark, rustling bushes suggesting someone was watching, or someone finds a dropped object somewhere that suggests something, or someone hears the whispers in the jungle again.

I will say though that my theory about the season ending is all shot to hell! ;)
So I'm hoping things go completely to pieces in the next episode!

[Celtic_Fiddler]

I still liked the episode, even though I wasn't happy about 'the main event' either (good way to put it Jonell!).

I'm still completely hooked. I so totally cannot WAIT to see what's going on with the hatch thingy.

Does anyone think they're trying to string a few new episodes in to keep us satiated for a while? And the story arc itself - does it end completely this season, or is there a second season?

Andrea

[alz]

"Circle of Life" was a cop-out

:(



I want a Locke figure to go with my Frank fig! (how geeky is that?)

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=xfiles_12&item=78041

(and since LOST's sister show Alias has figures... chances are we'll see Lost ones soon!)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/c/Alias.html)

[jnapper]

I want a Locke figure to go with my Frank fig! (how geeky is that?)

Considering that I'd probably want one of each of the castaways/islanders-- including evil Ethan Rom-- then, I'm right there beside ya... :p

[jnapper]

Lost is a repeat on ABC tonight, but I thought I'd check out Revelations on NBC at 9 PM ET.
http://www.nbc.com/Revelations/

(If you watch the clips, be prepared to look away while the convict is saying "I do not bleed.")

[Maija]

Sadly I don't have cable (needed to get US broadcast channels in Canada) otherwise I'd check it out. From the reviews it sounds pretty good. Maybe someone here will pick it up to run over the summer.

[fitzroy]

Bit Torrent is the key. :cool:
PM for full info. :D

[GremlinClr]

"Circle of Life" was a cop-out

:(



I want a Locke figure to go with my Frank fig! (how geeky is that?)

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=xfiles_12&item=78041

(and since LOST's sister show Alias has figures... chances are we'll see Lost ones soon!)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/c/Alias.html)

I hope if we do they are better than the Alias figures. The Sydney ones are just dog ugly. I actually wanted the full set until I saw how bad they were in the store.

[jnapper]

Not a spoiler, but from spoilerfix.com

Special: Lost: The Journey
Airdate: April 27, 2005

ABC invites new and avid "Lost" viewers to take a fresh look at one of this season's most talked about shows. "Lost: The Journey" promises to explore the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating. From the back stories of some of the most interesting characters on television to the mysteries of the island, "Lost: The Journey" will provide an insightful glimpse at the lives of some of the survivors of the doomed Oceanic Airlines flight 815. Narrated in a linear fashion and culminating from the pieces of the back stories told over multiple episodes in the series, "Lost: The Journey" focuses on the flashbacks of a core of characters, illustrating who they were and what they were doing before the crash. In addition, the island itself will be explored - culled from events that have taken place - which may reveal some of its secrets.

[Maija]

Here's an interview with Ian Somerhalder (Boone). It doesn't reveal much we don't already know, but if you don't know what happens to Boone yet the article contains spoilers.

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2005/04/27/1014483.html

Tonight is the flashback clip show thingy!

[jnapper]

The 20/20 special last week on LOST is at http://www.lost-media.com/ under "video"-- just seach for 20/20. I really enjoyed it! :)

[jnapper]

If you're a LOST fan, and you're also going to be at WizardWorld Chicago--

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/conventions/chicago/WW20050429-con.cfm
Lost star Evangeline Lilly to appear at Wizard World Chicago 2005 (August)

(Danks, Alz!)

[fitzroy]

Last episode ahoy.

Exodus

Part 1 this Wednesday, then parts 2 and 3 on 25/05/05

Booo!

[Maija]

I will be triple-checking the VCR before I leave for Ontario on Friday!

[jnapper]

Last episode ahoy.

Aye aye, Sir! Will be on board for that!

[jnapper]

Alz forwarded these to me-- Don't what site it's from, but I thought as long I quoted it, it could be cool to share:

Anyone else catch the Star Wars reference in this Lost episode?
by Klashe 2005-05-18 21:13:24

When Michael and Jin were working on the raft, Michael yelled at him "No,
no! This one goes here, that one goes there, got it?" Han solo said the EXACT
same thing to chewy when he was working on the Millenium Falcon in Empire
Strikes Back. Paying homage one day before the opening of Episode 3? Maybe. :)

[Petersen]

I cought the Empire reference.

A few scenes later the 'new guy' (who used to be on Matlock & Nash bridges) was running away in the rain after leaving his group, I thought 'here comes the Jurassic Park nod' but it wasn't

[jnapper]

EASTER EGG

From Damon Lindelof on the season finale: "The final half-hour amounts to an on-screen Easter-egg hunt, and devoted viewers will find lottery numbers... hidden in the scenes." Mr. Lindelof also has one key bit of advice for diehard fans: "Listen to what the French woman says in the third-to-last scene."
Source: The Wall Street Journal, May 19, 2005
(from spoilerfix.com)

--------

"AOL posted a new preview video that features the raft and a scene with Locke and Jack." It's called "Video Preview: No Ordinary Island." ("Finale Preview" is the same feed.)

Was glad I watched it, got chills at the end-- no huge spoilers, if you saw the preview last week, it just expands on it.
http://tv.channel.aol.com/lost

I couldn't watch in Opera. For Firefox, I had to snag two AOL-plugin updates, but it still wouldn't play. It loaded easy-peasy in Netscape.

--------

"ABC posted a new preview video that reveals more about Claire's abduction and reveals something that will happen to the baby."
** Beware it is quite spoilerish!**

Click on "video" in the top green ABC menu. and then select: "Lost Season Finale Sneak Peek!" It is a big spoiler per Claire's baby, so beware.
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost

Could not get it to play in my Opera or Firefox or Netscape--
Loaded fine in IE for me--

--------

Claire spoiler:

"Charlie's story intertwines a lot more closely with Claire by the end of it. There's going to be quite a rift in the camp, with the 13 or 14 regulars we've come to know split into allegiances," Dominic Monaghan revealed. Source: Kristin on E!Online

--------

Next Season spoiler:

05/10 - Cocreator Damon Lindelof reveals: The season finale focuses on the opening of the hatch. You'll see at least 2 percent of the monster -- potentially 5 percent. In the finale, viewers will begin to intuit the transmission's source. Not everybody might be coming back; that doesn't necessarily mean we're killing people... The finale delivers on life-and-death stakes. The finale's last 10 minutes focus on the numbers in a non-oblique way. The numbers bring people to the island; the larger mystery is: Why? Source: Entertainment Weekly





Please remember that if you reply to a post, not to reveal the spoiler in the original post. ;)

[Pam Cakes]

Well.

*ahem*



That seemed anti-climactic.

[jnapper]

For me, I found it pretty suspenseful, fast moving, and satisfying-- but I know that's definitely not the case for everyone.

I talked for an hour with a friend last night where he told me alot of things that disappointed him. But this morning, I talked with another friend and she went into detail about how cool "this, this, and this" were.

I just told myself that in the end, just like HELLBOY stories, I know not everyone is going to like them. :)

Sorta related, I'd really like to take a trip to Hawaii right now-- it's been raining for over a week with no end in the extended forecast-- I really miss sunshine. :(

[Mike Cross]

well, i knew going into it that they were definitely aiming for a season 2, and this sure proved it.

[Pam Cakes]

Don't get me wrong--I enjoyed watching it (well, in between the gazillion commercials they'd crammed into it, that is!!), but I felt like I was just continuing to get strung along (sorta like Locke last night, bumpety-bump, *ouch*, bump) without any big payoff. Sure, we get to see that (SPOILER) "The Others" actually exist somewhere outside of The French Woman's mind (END SPOILER). Other than that, though, the other plot points advanced only a little. Meh. The one bright spot for me was what happened to Arzt. I laughed my ass off over that. ;)

[jnapper]

gazillion commercials they'd crammed into it

Yeah, I thought the last hour was supposed to be commercial free--

On GOOD MORNING AMERICA today, they were supposed to show a scene that was cut from the show due to time constraints.

The one bright spot for me was what happened to Arzt. I laughed my ass off over that. ;)

Hahahahha, yeah, that was both sad and funny to me! Sad, because I was starting to grow attached to Arzt-- he seemed like a nice guy.

Funny, because the "boom" reminded me of how people blow up in Monty Python or Time Bandits.

It looked like whale blubber flying at them!
(Not that I've ever really seen flying whale blubber before.) :p

I thought Arzt's observations about the island "clique" were hilarious-- like, an inside joke to the viewer about how there are/were 40 other people on the island that we rarely see.

[Pam Cakes]

Yeah, I thought the last hour was supposed to be commercial free--

On GOOD MORNING AMERICA today, they were supposed to show a scene that was cut from the show due to time constraints.
Oh well, it was probably just another scene of somebody else running desperately to catch the plane. The only loss would've been one more slight chunk of irony--and I do think we were walloped over the head quite enough with that last night!

Hahahahha, yeah, that was both sad and funny to me! Sad, because I was starting to grow attached to Arzt-- he seemed like a nice guy.

Funny, because the "boom" reminded me of how people blow up in Monty Python or Time Bandits.

It looked like whale blubber flying at them!
(Not that I've ever really seen flying whale blubber before.) :p

I thought Arzt's observations about the island "clique" were hilarious-- like, an inside joke to the viewer about how there are/were 40 other people on the island that we rarely see.
I was glad to see him go, the self-pitying whiner. ;) I did think it was funny, though, that the writers chose to dispose of the one character who had the audacity to speak the lines that many of us viewers have been saying... not just the one you mention but also the one about how it's weird that Hurley doesn't seem to have lost a single pound in all this time!

While we're on the topic, though, I do think that it would add some verisimilitude to the show if they would give lines to the 40 others... I'm not talking about major screentime or even any background info about them--just have them really part of the show's narrative is all...

[Maija]

I'm not reading the comments right now because I really should be visiting with relatives rather than posting on the board, but I will say I enjoyed the finale. I'll go into more detail when I get back, I suppose. I was lucky-- I thought I'd have to wait until I got home to watch it (and hope my VCR worked) but the people I was visiting with on Thursday are also rabid LOST fans so watching the Lost finale was made more important than visiting for a couple of hours (sort of pathetic, I guess, but we were all caught up on the visiting!!) so I did get to see it in real time. Hurray! :)

And Locke didn't die. Or Hurley. That's all I need for a good LOST finale. ;)

[Maija]

New cast member to join LOST (http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2005/06/07/1075728-ap.html)

NEW YORK (AP) - Michelle Rodriguez is getting Lost full-time.

The 26-year-old actress will join the cast of the stranded-on-an-island drama when production resumes for its second season, ABC announced.

In a flashback scene on the season finale, Rodriguez played Ana-Lucia Cortez, a passenger on doomed Oceanic flight No. 815, who... (http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2005/06/07/1075728-ap.html)

(Rest of paragraph is a mild spoiler about the season finale and article also contains a theory about Ana-Lucia that may be a mild spoiler for next season).

[alz]

http://oceanic-air.com/

Check out the text behind the right column "Important Announcement
ALL FLIGHTS CANCELLED"

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/lostturbineenhanced.gif

[Tad]

If you enter Hurley's lottery numbers in the ages boxes and press "find" does anything happen?

Haven't tried it since I don't know the numbers but it seems like a cool thing to reveal something.

[alz]

yup -- enter his numbers in the age boxes -- then it goes to a seating chart. Enter the numbers again for the seating chart -- then you get a video teaser for next season(!)

[Tad]

I am such a geeeeeeeeniouuuus! :rolleyes:

[Pam Cakes]

You can also see a (purported) page of the script if you click your mouse on the gray line that appears to the right of the "flight cancellation" message and drag it to the left. SPOILER BEGIN: In it, there's a hand-scrawled reference to the "mapinguari", which may or may not be the monster (the script implies something different). :END

[kid cthulhu]

Since I don't have cable, I should rent these. You can rent these can't you?

Not to derail this thread, but I recommend the HBO series Carnivale.

[ReptileJK]

You can also see a (purported) page of the script if you click your mouse on the gray line that appears to the right of the "flight cancellation" message and drag it to the left.

Can't believed that I hadn't even *thought* about the critter mentioned in this spoiler! Slightly OT:, but I once saw a great show on Discovery about that critter. It focused around a fella, who was once a fairly well-respected ornithologist, who abandoned his serious ecological research on birds to hunt this critter. In the show, he had convinced a molecular biologist to come along with him and by the end of the show, the mb was pretty fed up. At any length, it was a neat show.

Anyways.....I've always just sort of lurked on this thread, but that spoiler made me chime in.

[ReptileJK]

Since I don't have cable, I should rent these. You can rent these can't you?

Not to derail this thread, but I recommend the HBO series Carnivale.

A friend of mine (whom I got started on Lost), has really been hyping Carnivale. I'm looking forward to seeing the DVDs. As far as I know, LOST is not available on DVD yet.

[Maija]

yup -- enter his numbers in the age boxes -- then it goes to a seating chart. Enter the numbers again for the seating chart -- then you get a video teaser for next season(!) Also, clicking on any square in a row corresponding to Hurley's numbers (in sequence) reveals where the major characters were sitting. Clicking on their seat reveals hidden artifacts. For some seats clicking several times reveals different things. Most things revealed aren't anything earth-shattering but there is one artifact, seen frequently on the show, but rarely up close or legibly, that you can drag around and see exactly what is written on it. I won't give away what it is.

Hurley's numbers are 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42.

[Maija]

Thanks for the hint on the script Easter Egg, Pam Cakes! That's pretty damned cool (though a pain in the ass to drag back and forth).

I assume it must be a total red herring though. I mean a giant mechanical tree sloth? :rolleyes:

[Tad]

My guess is the monster uses nanotechnology like Michael Criton's PREY. That would explain the black cloud.

[ReptileJK]

Thanks for the hint on the script Easter Egg, Pam Cakes! That's pretty damned cool (though a pain in the ass to drag back and forth).

I assume it must be a total red herring though. I mean a giant mechanical tree sloth? :rolleyes:

Something that I've been thinking about regarding "the monster" (as I'm sure others have also). I'm wondering if there aren't two "monsters" on the island, one real and one mechanical. I mean, Locke encounters something that appears to be moving towards him and looking down at him in the third or fourth episode (while hunting the boar) that has no sound asssociated with it resembling something mechanical. Also, in the first episode, the plane's captain is pulled from the top of the plane by something large and supposedly moving, again attacking from overhead. This makes me think it is a real creature.

Yet, in the season finale, when Locke is attacked by the "monster" during the dynamite trip, we hear the moving chains and gears. He seems to have been attacked from the ground by a snare of somesort (not from overhead) and drug away down a hole. Before he is attacked and we heard the monster growling and see the trees shaking, Locke looks up at it with an almost knowing smile on his face (keep in mind that he's seen the monster before), when it is pulling him down the hole and Jack saves him, he asks Jack to let him go, saying he'll be fine.

Now, in earlier episodes, Locke (I think) mentions that the monster is a defense mechanism of some kind (presumeable for the territory belonging to "the Others"). What if the monster were actually comprised of two things: 1) a real "monster", whatever it may be.....and 2) a mechanical defense mechanism that The Other's have put into place to protect the boundaries of their territory. They know that people are afraid of the real monster and use that fear to their advantage. Locke seems to want to be attacked by the "monster" in the finale. Could this be because he knows it's a hoax and is hoping to come face to face with The Others?

Anyways, just an idea....maybe it's been mentioned before and I just missed the post. If so, sorry.

[jnapper]

Anyways, just an idea....maybe it's been mentioned before and I just missed the post. If so, sorry.

Holy cow! I never thought of that! Thanks, ReptileJK! Bwuuhahahhahahah-- I can't wait for next season!!!

[ReptileJK]

Holy cow! I never thought of that! Thanks, ReptileJK! Bwuuhahahhahahah-- I can't wait for next season!!!

You and me both, Lady J! :D

[Maija]

SDCC Saturday

10:00-12:00 ABC Presents: Lost, Invasion, The Night Stalker

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci05_prog_sat.shtml

[alz]

btw, there's a PS2 "LOST" game in the works!

[jnapper]

btw, there's a PS2 "LOST" game in the works!

Mine.

I want a soundtrack too!!

[gdeo]

Some of the cast will be signing at the Inkworks booth.

[alz]

LOST just got a lotta emmy nominations. here's the acting bit:

quote:
"Lost," a freshman drama about air crash survivors stranded on a mysterious island, got 12, although its stars were shut out of the lead acting nominations. Two members of the ensemble cast, Naveen Andrewsand Terry O'Quinn, received best supporting actor bids.

[jnapper]

LOST just got a lotta emmy nominations. here's the acting bit:

quote:
"Lost," a freshman drama about air crash survivors stranded on a mysterious island, got 12, although its stars were shut out of the lead acting nominations. Two members of the ensemble cast, Naveen Andrewsand Terry O'Quinn, received best supporting actor bids.

Go Naveen! Go Terry! Go LOST!!!!

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pam Cakes]

Good! Those are the two I'd've picked out of the cast for special recognition, too.

[alz]

quote:

Lost
The popular castaway thriller "Lost" will reveal a key secret to fans early this fall reports Reuters. The season premiere has the survivors discovering what lies inside "the hatch"- a mysterious portal on the fictional island where they are marooned that was blown open in last season's cliffhanger finale.

[Tad]

I made use of my Hollywood connections to learn what's inside:





It's another hatch.

[Petersen]

so long as it's not Richard Hatch...

[Pam Cakes]

so long as it's not Richard Hatch...
...nekkid.




*shivers*

[Maija]

It's another hatch.
Ha ha, smart guy. (And actual "Ha ha" at Petersen)

Actually at the SDCC panel, one of the directors said specifically, "No, it's not another hatch!" :p

So before you spread any more disinformation, I might as well transcribe my shorthand notes from the panel, before I forget what they mean:

They began by playing some clips that will be on the DVD: the creators talking about how they came up with Lost and how the process to get it to air went. Basically the two creators discovered that they were of like minds with where to go and wrote an outline of the next 5-6 years of life on the island in about 30 minutes.

(This is just going to be written per my notes without any attempts at flow...)

- The airplane is the only interior set for the Island. Everything else is in actual jungle.
- The airplane breaking up scenes were done strictly with fancy jiggly-Steadicam (not an oxymoron) work and old-fashioned Star Trek "everybody lean this way! Now this way!"
- The takes of the case being thrown at the Air Marshall's head were quite amusing. There is going to be an out-takes section on the DVD.
- The back of the plane breaking away was green screen and folks in the seats were on harnesses that yanked them out.

They showed some deleted scenes and like most deleted scenes, you can see why they were deleted. They added nothing whatsoever to the plot and were rather boring, so I won't bother describing them (they'll be on the DVD anyway).

Then they went to the floor to take audience questions for the panel: the two creator/directors, Jeffrey Lieber & J.J. Abrams, Josh Holloway (Sawyer), and Maggie Grace (Shannon).

- what the actors know about the characters is strictly on a need-to-know basis. At auditions they didn't know anything more than age and name and a little bit about personality.

"What's up with the polar bears?"
- Polar bears are actually indigenous to the South Pacific, having been brought there thousands of years ago by Polynesians in their canoes.

-There is a lot of skinny-dipping. Also, the show is written in the nude.

"What similarities are there between you and the characters you play?"
Maggie: "hopefully none"
Josh: "He does things I might like to do, like saying what he thinks." Otherwise the character is the opposite of how he lives, but he gets to have fun playing the character.

"How were characters cast?"
-a lot of the characters were re-written according to the nature of the actors playing them
-Jack originally was supposed to die in the pilot.
-Sawyer was originally a Prada-wearing, boiler-plate NYC con-man, but Josh auditioned with a weird accent. The director asked, "What the hell is that accent?" Josh said, "That's my Buffalo accent?" Director: "Please let it go!" for Josh's native drawl and thusly was Sawyer as we know him born
- Shannon was originally much bitchier, but she's been softened and they wrote in the Sayid romance because of how Maggie was playing her

DVD will include everyone's audition footage, except Terry O'Quinn. He never auditioned because Locke was written especially for him.

"What's the best and worst thing about working in Oahu?"
- "fantastic experience", "vivid colours", "skinny dipping!"
- the most difficult aspect has been shooting the worst rain in 40 years on Oahu. The amount of muddy, physical work you see the the actors do is real.

"What does Sawyer think is the correlation between the Spanish comic and things happening on the Island?"
(Naturally caused some puzzlement)
Josh: "Sawyer barely speaks English!... Polar bears also swim in the nude?"
[some other discussion which somehow leads to aliens...]
One of the directors: "There could not possibly be aliens. It is not a sci-fi show. This precludes Flash and the Green Lantern showing up on the Island!"

Next season:
- we're going to find out what's in the hatch in Ep. 1 ("No, it's not another hatch!")
- There will be a Vincent flashback episode. (Ha ha, they keed.)
- It will all break down into "a Moebius loop of confusion&qu