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Gaz
03-30-2005, 03:16 AM
Simply put, San Francisco is stereotypically taken as the "gay capital of the US" in my experience. (I don't condone stereotyping, btw) Given the number of gay characters introduced in the Bat-titles recently (the last 3-5 years), can we assume that Gotham is DCs equivilent?
Beastfan07
03-30-2005, 03:46 AM
It's more of DC's LA or The Bronx.
Gaz
03-30-2005, 03:48 AM
It's more of DC's LA or The Bronx.
Yeah, I know. But I wanted to bring up the oddly high gay population in the Batbooks and this seemed like a light hearted way to do it... :o
sikkbones
03-30-2005, 04:18 AM
the actual crisis this summer is going to be more like a crisis on infinite closets and dick grayson will finally come out out the closet...

followed by kyle raydner...

and in 2015 bruce wayne will neither admit or deny his sexuality and his relationship with jason todd or tim drake when accused of molestation in celebrity trial like micheal jacksons....

(batmans vs. the pedophile wasn't there a book written about that, where he saved kids?)
Sean Dulaney
03-30-2005, 06:24 AM
While it's often been used as a substitute/sister city to New York City, the old DC HEROES roleplaying game from Mayfair Games (1984-ish) made Gotham sound more like Boston with Metropolis being the closer NYC-ish city.
Gaz
03-30-2005, 06:27 AM
I'll admit the title is probably too witty, and a bit abstract. But I'm really curious as to why Gotham has such a high number of significant gay characters, compared to the rest of the DCU. Sorry for the confusion. :(
BTW, I always saw it as the flip side of Metropolis' squeaky clean NYC
Gauss
03-30-2005, 06:30 AM
I think Gotham is actually the anti-Frisco... or whatever the name of that town in Texas is where the water seems to contribute to pacifism. :p Clearly the water in Gotham is giving everyone the crazies!
Forsaken_One
03-30-2005, 08:36 AM
Frisco
I will find you. And you will die. Yeeeessss... ;)
Gaz
03-30-2005, 08:38 AM
I will find you. And you will die. Yeeeessss... ;)
I only used the contraction in the title. I put the full name in the post ;)
The Xenos
03-30-2005, 08:43 AM
I don't think it has a higher gay population, it just turns out that many of the characters the books focus on are gay. I know both Renee and Maggie in Gotham. Ivey's been hinted at. Can't think of anyone else right now.

-Xenos
Gaz
03-30-2005, 08:46 AM
I don't think it has a higher gay population, it just turns out that many of the characters the books focus on are gay. I know both Renee and Maggie in Gotham. Ivey's been hinted at. Can't think of anyone else right now.

-Xenos
Holly in Catwoman is at least bi, and her and Renee have girlfriends who appear semiregularly.
What about Savant in BoP, and his bodyguard/henchman?
Huh?
03-30-2005, 09:17 AM
While it's often been used as a substitute/sister city to New York City, the old DC HEROES roleplaying game from Mayfair Games (1984-ish) made Gotham sound more like Boston with Metropolis being the closer NYC-ish city.I have always thought of Gotham as New York City and Metropolis as Chicago.
TJEscobar
03-30-2005, 10:12 AM
Actually Metropolis is like Chi town and Gotham is like Detroit. Gotham is always suposed to always dark eerie, and always someone is gettign killed. Sterotypically it is portrayed as Detroit.
Huh?
03-30-2005, 10:32 AM
Actually Metropolis is like Chi town and Gotham is like Detroit. Gotham is always suposed to always dark eerie, and always someone is gettign killed. Sterotypically it is portrayed as Detroit.Detroit? Really?
RawShark
03-30-2005, 10:59 AM
I've always thought of Gotham as Montreal and Metropolis as Toronto :rolleyes:
sikkbones
03-30-2005, 03:03 PM
it has been said that metrolpolis in the golden age was based on toronto....

and i could see gotham based on detriot....
Sean Dulaney
03-31-2005, 05:39 AM
I've always thought of Gotham as Montreal and Metropolis as Toronto :rolleyes:

Would that make Central City to be Winsor?
The Joker
03-31-2005, 06:20 AM
and i could see gotham based on detriot....

Same here.

I think I got a glimpse when I saw RoboCop. If Gotham would be based on Detroit, then I believe THATS what it would probably look like.

Definately not a place to raise kids.
sikkbones
03-31-2005, 10:28 AM
Would that make Central City to be Winsor?
what the hell is central city... and no that would be london ontario... the somewhat capital of southern ontario....

on a related note i live in windsor...
and detriot is no mans land era gotham if it's gotham.. a stinking hell hole...
pennywisdom
04-02-2005, 05:03 PM
What's with you and "gay" threads? Weren't you the one who started the "Name a Character Who Couldn't Be Gay" discussion?
Sk8maven
04-03-2005, 08:53 AM
No, no, if that's the criterion you're using, then Gotham very clearly = Boston, MA. :D

Maven
DEWLine
04-03-2005, 09:21 AM
I've always thought of Gotham as Montreal and Metropolis as Toronto :rolleyes:

Now you've got me thinking about my "supposing Kal-El had landed in Saskatchewan instead of Kansas" idea again...

:cool: :D
moebius
04-03-2005, 09:41 AM
I believe the standard DC line (at least since the 40s or 50s) was that Metropolis and Gotham are both supposed to be NY, but schismed; Metropolis was the shining skyscrapers and luxury of certain parts of Manhattan, while Gotham was supposed to represent its seedier, darker sections. I can't remember the actual analogous neighborhoods.

In Atlases that are infrequently published on the DCU, I believe Metropolis is in Delaware (which would tremendously increase that state's population) or Maryland and Gotham is in Jersey.
DEWLine
04-03-2005, 09:49 AM
Except that it's been repeatedly established in recent years that Metropolis is north of Gotham...
Yoda
04-03-2005, 10:10 AM
Gothams New York at night, and Metropolis is New York during the day.

I don't know where Metropolis is on the east coast but Gotham has been fairly well established as being in NJ. I always go the impression that Metropolis was south, closer to DC.
sikkbones
04-03-2005, 01:20 PM
Except that it's been repeatedly established in recent years that Metropolis is north of Gotham...


anyone think the whole idea that metropolis is north is a kudo to one of the creators who was from toronto?
Horror Business
04-03-2005, 03:57 PM
i, too, always thought of gotham as nyc at night.
EZMOHR
04-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Gothams New York at night, and Metropolis is New York during the day.


Could not say it better myself.
Apathy Boy
04-05-2005, 12:52 AM
Gothams New York at night, and Metropolis is New York during the day.Random thought: a city that transforms into a completely different city at night would be the coolest setting for a comic book EVER.