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Daemon
03-27-2005, 06:40 PM
Owowowowowowowowowow

*holds head*

episode 6 broke my brain I think, and I'd like to discuss it with people that have seen it. So Spoilers below:

okay so we find out that the three goddesses have a mother, the goddesses are also outside of this universe, sorta like the marble from Men in Black 1. Now unless I got totally off base apparently Tenchi is supposed to be one of those supreme beings like the three goddesses. In fact the goddesses mother even recognized tenchi and gave him a kiss.

So if someone else understood it better, could they help explain it to me?

Lightbend
03-27-2005, 07:46 PM
Owowowowowowowowowow

*holds head*

episode 6 broke my brain I think, and I'd like to discuss it with people that have seen it. So Spoilers below:

okay so we find out that the three goddesses have a mother, the goddesses are also outside of this universe, sorta like the marble from Men in Black 1. Now unless I got totally off base apparently Tenchi is supposed to be one of those supreme beings like the three goddesses. In fact the goddesses mother even recognized tenchi and gave him a kiss.

So if someone else understood it better, could they help explain it to me?


Actually, that makes sense, when you think about it.

Remember, this has been telegraphed-

1) Tenchi wasn't channeling power from Tsunami when he fought Kagato-it was coming from him. Essentially, he was showing potential power like one of the goddesses.

2) The Goddesses exist outside of the universe is pretty much because they're not 3-dimensional beings. D3, Tokimi's servant, is basically her way of interacting with the lower beings.

Also, where did you get the OAV3?

B.A.S.
03-27-2005, 08:03 PM
This might help.....Not from me, but someone who saw the episode made a summary of the Goddesses origin using the new information from the episode.

Note: The first part contains info from the TTN, if your unfamiliar with those than the first part might not make sense......but I added it because I felt it was important to the logical flow of the whole summary in general. Information relevant to the new episode is contained in the second post.

*Spoilers, obviously*





CHOUSHIN SUMMARY

In the beginning mists of time, billions of years ago, there existed the Choushin, the Three Sisters -- who pretty much sat above multi-dimensional space and watched it evolving. Washu-kami, Tsunami-kami, and Tokimi-kami could see anything and everything, affecting it directly, rearranging whole swaths of it to suit themselves, and just generally letting the universe steam-roll along at its own pace.

However, over the eons they became aware of contradictions, irregularities that defied logic, which led them to speculate that there may be even greater beings than themselves. So, they spent more eons performing gedanken-experimente, literally "thought experiments", to discover clues about these higher powers. And these exercises proved fruitless.

So they changed tactics. They began a search of the universe looking for clues, or favorable conditions, that through random chance would eventually produce sapients -- "avatars" -- harboring nascent links -- "anomalies" -- to higher dimensions. But, to activate the anomaly, the avatar would have to put in deadly peril, so that at the point of death the barriers would dissolve and the anomaly would rise to the surface. There was a catch, however: at the death of the avatar, the anomaly would be extinguished, and though the avatar could be resurrected, the anomaly could not. Thus, a narrow window of opportunity was defined.

Their efforts led to them our galaxy, which at the time was dominated by the pre-Juraian precursor civilization (whose artifacts would one day be inherited by Airai). The conditions detected by the Choushin were just in the initial stages, so they decided to wait and observe, allowing time to pass naturally, probably in a state of "sleep" or "dormancy" in subspace.

During this period of time the precursor civilization became aware of the Choushin. They achieved contact with Washu-kami, whom they coaxed into 3-D space where she assumed the human form of Washu-san (albeit as the 1000-ft-high giant that we see during ep 19), and who later transferred most of her essence into the three gems and made these available to the scientists/politicians/priests of the society. It must have been immensely successful, because these mortals got greedy and devised a way to lure her into a moon-sized containment facility and trapped her there, keeping her dormant. Over ensuing decades, the physical form of the goddess provided sufficient material for her to be cloned, and three attempts were made: the bioroids dubbed A, B, and C. Each was given one of the gems, and motivated/manipulated to do the bidding of the bureaucracy. Unfortunately, bioroid C fell in love with a mortal, which corrupted her programming, and she escaped. The other two clones were sent after her, and C was killed in the inevitable confrontation. C's death scream woke Tsunami-kami, and the precursor civilization became suddenly extinct. Washu-san remained in the confinement facility until it decayed some centuries later, and she escaped, retrieving her three gems from Tsunami-kami.

The Choushin re-evaluated their plans at this point, probably aware for the first time how they could pro-actively affect the dominant life forms in this galaxy, and decided to take the direct approach. Therefore, each celestial chose a different path to the same goal:

* Washu-kami determined that she would clear the board completely and begin acquiring knowledge from a human perspective. That way, she would be able to monitor humanity as a whole, from the inside. So, she erased her memory and became the infant Washu-chan (though it's never stated specifically, she probably assimilated with an existing child), where she and her gems were found near an orphanage. With her own phenomenal intellect, and the three gems as a source of power (and the occasional reminder to "stay the course"). She attempted to create her own monitors/assistants, in the form of Kagato/Souja and later Ryoko/Ryo-ohki.

* Tsunami-kami decided to stay with the "trace" she had been following (the Juraian Imperial Family), attempting to genetically breed an avatar. Ultimately, this approach was the most successful. She crafted monitors/assistants in the form of the Royal Trees, which she distributed among members of the pedigreed bloodline.

* Tokimi-kami stuck to the original plan, but modified it a bit: she would induce catastrophe and destruction on a wide scale (they were little better than insects, after all...), calculating that sooner-or-later an avatar would appear among the swarms of life forms being extinguished. This method did eventually produce an anomaly, but not the desired result. She retained the original monitors/assistants employed during the earlier phases of their efforts.

Since Washu-kami and Tsunami-kami chose to "muddle about" in the 3-D realm, they agreed to let Tokimi-kami bind their powers to prevent them from disturbing the natural environment.

And so the experiment proceeded; the centuries trickled past, until finally....

B.A.S.
03-27-2005, 08:05 PM
* Z was the first instance. The attack vessel he was piloting was surrounded and destroyed, with him trapped in the wreckage. At the point of expiration, the anomaly manifested and his five LHW were generated for the first time. Delighted, Tokimi-kami appeared and "harvested" him. And, while his anomaly was not the expected gateway to the highest realm, it was vindication that the theory was sound. Z reluctantly consented to Tokimi-kami's service, vowing to destroy any further anomalies that he encountered as revenge for the terrible loss of life that his appearance had cost...and, in the process, sparing any further avatars from suffering the hideous trauma and guilt that had been inflicted upon him.

* Sasami was the second instance, as she fell several stories from an elevated platform in the Royal Arboretum (during Ryoko's attack on planet Jurai). She was terminally injured, but she carried a form of anomaly as well, which Tsunami-kami recognized and activated by assimilating with her. Thus, Sasami was spared from death, and Tsunami-kami had her first success. However, due to the assimilation, the two personalities would begin to affect each other. The child's human qualities (her emotions) had now been introduced into the celestial for the first time. Tsunami-kami would never be the same again.

* Tenchi was the third instance, and the actual culmination of the experiment. Fate began to draw the agents and familiars of the Choushin to him, and all recognized (in one manner or another) the tremendous potentials he represented. During his second confrontation with Kagato, Tenchi was mortally wounded aboard the Tree Ship Ryu-oh-fune, and one of the dying acts of Royal Tree Ryu-oh-ki was to protect Tenchi's shattered body with protective sap from its branches. That was enough to delay death until the AI units Azaka and Kamidake arrived and sealed him in a stassis field. At the very point of death, Tsunami-kami arrived and regenerated his corpus, in the process "nudging" the anomaly buried within him. And when the anomaly did manifest, Kagato and the Souja died, Washu-chan was freed, and the universe witnessed Material Conversion for the very first time. The Choushin now had their proof!

But: Tenchi was still immature. The anomaly within him seemed reluctant to manifest, only appearing and "taking control" when the boy is in dire straights. It is apparent to Tsunami-kami and Washu-kami that Tenchi must mature naturally, that the anomaly must be allowed to grow and develop at its own pace -- a process that could take tens of thousands of years (which is nothing to a creature that normally lives billions of years, or even to the galactic humans and their life-extension technology). They would watch over the boy, protect him, and in the mean time allow the human qualities they had been absorbing to teach them a few human concepts...like love. Tsunami-kami and Washu-kami, through their 3-D human extensions Sasami and Washu-chan, are in love with Tenchi (Washu-chan has been there before, and while a bit hesitant to repeat it, is nonetheless ready to follow the cycle to it's conclusion; Sasami is a child, but has already started menstruating and knows full well where the cycle is leading).

However, nothing ever really goes as planned. Tokimi-kami has been watching from a distance, and so performs two acts to insert herself into the proceedings....

(1) Tokimi-kami directs Z to monitor activities at the Masaki household, with explicit instructions to leave Tenchi alone. And Z, of course, discovers that Tenchi bears an anomaly that behaves similarly to his own. So it is no surprise that Z begins plotting to exact his revenge via the Earthling boy.

(2) Tokimi-kami, too, has acquired a human extension (possibly modeled after the actions of Washu-kami): she has assimilated with an orphan girl, Noike by name, who would be raised in an orphanage and later adopted into House Kamiki. Tokimi-kami arranges to have Noike inserted into the Masaki household, where she can keep an eye on the fledgling anomaly as well as on her untrustworthy servant, Z.

Events unfold...Z tries to get Tenchi killed through human agents (i.e., Kuramitsu Misao and company), which fails miserably. With no other back-up plan available, Z decides to do the job directly and suffer whatever consequences are heaped upon him. And he does so fully expecting that the Choushin will take pity on the Earthling and resurrect him, as well as restoring the damage done to the immediate vicinity. As we've seen, he suffered the same shocked surprise that Kagato did when Tenchi's anomaly decided to appear and take matters at hand.

Z was partially correct, though: the Choushin do clean up the mess by taking the principals back in time to before Z appeared. However, since the stream of causality that finally produced the much-sought anomaly dare not be tampered with, the principals will all remember the full spectrum of events that have transpired. They are now aware of the Choushin directly, that Washu-chan and Sasami are merely 3-D extensions of celestial entities, and that Tenchi is the 3-D anchor for a entity so immensely powerful that even the Choushin do not know the full scope of his existence. But little else has changed; Ryoko and Ayeka still love Tenchi madly and will compete for his attention, Mihoshi is still an addle-brained GP officer (with secrets of her own yet to reveal) who loves Tenchi, and Washu-chan and Sasami (and now Noike) will bide their time and savor the growing love that they have for Tenchi, because they are also forming higher-dimensional bonds with him as well.

And Tenchi himself is looking inwards at the conduit to extended realities he could never have imagined, that he literally a 3-D extension of an n-D entity, that he will continue maturing as a human being -- and knowing full well that there is a harem in his future that simply boggles the mind.

I hope this helps. From the look of it, it sounds like this is one of the better episodes. Not to mention the fact that Tenchi is more powerful than the goddesses themselves.......

Captain Sarcasm
03-27-2005, 08:44 PM
Hey, what kind of villian is Z? He looked to be too much of a generic threat than Kagato, so I've been kinda aprehensive about the new OAVs.

Also, TTN refers to one of those Tenchi Novels, doesn't it? Is there any way to get those in english?

B.A.S.
03-27-2005, 08:56 PM
Hey, what kind of villian is Z? He looked to be too much of a generic threat than Kagato, so I've been kinda aprehensive about the new OAVs.

He's not a villian like Kagato.....according to the last episode he's kind of a victim of sorts. And he wants to kill Tenchi so he won't have to suffer like he did.

Also, TTN refers to one of those Tenchi Novels, doesn't it? Is there any way to get those in english?

No. There have been some translation efforts by various people, but none of them have gotten off the ground. The only translations that exist are online and incomplete.

Daemon
03-27-2005, 08:56 PM
Z?

Z was your basic insane baddy that would smash stuff till it stopped moving.

His big power stunt was casually ripping earth and the moon appart with waves of his hand.

That said, Noike is Tokimi!??!?, so I assume then that orphan girl he found flitting through the timesteam(at least that what I assumed it was with the motion flim background) was a young Noike?

and any ideas on whom the goddesses mother was? cause like I said Tenchi's celetial spirit knew her and they kissed and all..

Tenchi also just got a a major boost in his pimpcred. The mom and three daughters. ;)

B.A.S.
03-27-2005, 08:59 PM
Z?

Z was your basic insane baddy that would smash stuff till it stopped moving.

His big power stunt was casually ripping earth and the moon appart with waves of his hand.



From the episode translation, I got the impression that he had a least some kind of motivation.

Here's some of the relevant parts from the translation.....

Z: That's why I can have anything I want, because I'm this unique absolute being!
Tenchi: I don't desire something like that.
Z: Heh, if you want to protect your happiness, let me kill you.
(Tenchi gasps)
Z: Washu and Tsunami want that, too. That's exactly why you're frozen.
Tenchi: You're saying Washu and Tsunami want me to die?
Z: For the Choushin, it's no problem to resurrect you, and restore your memories, even the soul will be exactly the same. Yes, except for the ability to create Light-hawk wings.
Tokimi: Why, sister?
Washu: I just told you. The one I treasure is Tenchi.
Z: Die. By that you can return to your former happy existence. You can escape this distortion.
Ryoko: You've gotta be shitting me! Resurrection my ass! You think I'll let you get away with this!?
Tenchi: Just a moment, Ryoko!
Z: Oh, that's right, she's Washu's daughter.
Ryo-ohki: Myaaa!
Ryoko: Die, you SOB! Eh, what's...? (Z stops them) Oh, crap! (halving) Ryo-Ohki! Eh!
Tenchi: Don't! Stop it, Ryoko! (screams, the ring laughs)
Tenchi: Ryoko!
Z: Tsah!
Ryoko: (gasps)
Z: With this, your nighmare is over.
Ryoko: Tenchi! Tenchi! No, no! Noooo!

Daemon
03-27-2005, 09:08 PM
yea my translation was slightly different....

I got the impression that Z wasn't quite all there in the head.

That said the ring was their mother but I forgot to ask earlier who their mother was and what were her reasons for doing what she did to Tokimi.

edit: that reminds me, Tokimi can't be Noike if you ask me. As when the three goddesses are explaining everything noike is in the room with Tenchi and the others while Sasami and Washu-chan are not present.

Zun Liako
03-27-2005, 09:20 PM
His big power stunt was casually ripping earth and the moon appart with waves of his hand

Whoa, was Tenchi always a series that operated on a power curve like that?

B.A.S.
03-27-2005, 09:32 PM
Whoa, was Tenchi always a series that operated on a power curve like that?

That's only the tip of the iceburg.....in this episode entire dimentions were falling apart.

Tokimi: (gasps) What just happened?
Washu: Certainly looks like you were pushed back to the hyper-dimension.
Tokimi: Sister?
Tsunami: Supervisor, report?
D3: There is a high level energy discharge at the battle area. It... It's... (Giant starts emergence) Dimensional quake has occurred. Energy levels still rising.
D4: 4th dimension, dimensional quake detected.
D5: Dimensional quake detected.
D6: Dimensional quake detected.
D7: Dimensional quake detected.
D8: Dimensional quake detected.
D9: Dimensional quake detected.
D10: Dimensional quake detected.. Breaking through to ???.
Tokimi: It's quaking! Hyper-dimension is quaking.
Tsunami: No! If this continues, the 3rd-dimensional shell will break.

Eventually Tenchi's able to stop it, like any good plot device character should.

Daemon
03-27-2005, 09:42 PM
Whoa, was Tenchi always a series that operated on a power curve like that?

Only the ova series and manga, the two tv shows powered down the characters dramatically.

SAMAS
03-28-2005, 05:09 AM
You know, a good chunk of my doubts about the 3rd OAV have just vanished. Thank you.

Daemon
03-31-2005, 05:55 PM
although we do get to see the only canon way to beat a LHW user now that I think about it.

btw B.A.S. you know if the at the end all the characters kept their memories or not then? As it seemed if Ryoko did but I wasn't so sure.

B.A.S.
04-01-2005, 05:55 PM
although we do get to see the only canon way to beat a LHW user now that I think about it.

btw B.A.S. you know if the at the end all the characters kept their memories or not then? As it seemed if Ryoko did but I wasn't so sure.

Yes they do. Ryoko tries to stop Mihoshi from sending the letter she sent earlier, but Noike ends up sending it instead.

Ryoko: Yo, Mihoshi!Hey? (kicks) Man! Don't sleep at the desk like that!
Mihoshi: Ah, last night, to my family...
Ryoko: You were writing an e-mail, right?
Mihoshi: Eh, where was I...
Ryoko: Washu said not to send this message.
Mihoshi: Whaa... But I put so much effort into writing it...
Ryoko: Well, excuse me if I don't let you get us into all that trouble again.
Mihoshi: Eh, but...
Ryoko: Want me to remind you what that bugger of a brother of yours tried to do to Tenchi!?
Mihoshi: Ouch, Ryoko, don't, aah...
(Mailbot sweatdrops)
Fuku: (changes message)
Woman: Good job! Sorry, but I want to enjoy meeting onii-chan once again. And if we don't send this, you'll never meet Seina, right, Fuku?
Fuku: Myaa.

B.A.S.
04-07-2005, 02:43 PM
Just a small update.....It's looks like the voice actor for Ryoko isn't coming back.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=6457

jadegiant77
04-11-2005, 11:45 AM
when is this coming stateside?

somestupidname
06-11-2006, 03:08 AM
Wow finally a place where I can discuss the latter part of the 3rd Ova.

First let me say B.A.S. your insights were amazing I haven't read the True Tenchi Novels but even still I don't know how you got all that out of those episodes.

Anyways I will add in my two cents here. 1uit reading now if you don't want any spoilers quit reading now.

First I believe Tenchi-Kami is actually a separate entity from Tenchi, It is the manifestation of Tenchi's potential fully actualized. Also since it is a hyper dimensional being and may be able to manifest before he was born. From the way he was greeted by the Choushin's mother I wonder if Tenchi-Kami isn't their father.

Second I think it was a bit obvious the girl Tenchi saved during his trip through time and space was Ryoko. The like "Why does he hate me I am also Kagato." sort of gave it away. I just am curious why Ryoko's hair is different now than from then?

SAMAS
06-11-2006, 07:48 AM
No, the girl really is Kagato. Kagato used to be a hermaphodite, and the girl is the result of him fixing that.

Actually, Kagato was the clone of Naja, a woman who was friends with Washuu. Naja disappeared while saving a great many people from a disaster(including Lady Seto), and Washu mader the clone in her grief. The two of them created Ryoko, but the clone posessed a male prototype and called himself Kagato.

Magneto_X
06-11-2006, 02:05 PM
No, the girl really is Kagato. Kagato used to be a hermaphodite, and the girl is the result of him fixing that.

Actually, Kagato was the clone of Naja, a woman who was friends with Washuu. Naja disappeared while saving a great many people from a disaster(including Lady Seto), and Washu mader the clone in her grief. The two of them created Ryoko, but the clone posessed a male prototype and called himself Kagato.

*brain explodes*

Naraku
06-11-2006, 02:11 PM
No, the girl really is Kagato. Kagato used to be a hermaphodite, and the girl is the result of him fixing that.

Actually, Kagato was the clone of Naja, a woman who was friends with Washuu. Naja disappeared while saving a great many people from a disaster(including Lady Seto), and Washu mader the clone in her grief. The two of them created Ryoko, but the clone posessed a male prototype and called himself Kagato.

Please, say that this is a joke.

Buzz Dixon
06-11-2006, 03:10 PM
Please, say that this is a joke.
In some alternate Tenchi-verse, it is... :D

somestupidname
06-11-2006, 06:17 PM
actully Kagato was not a hermaphrodite but a full female. He absorbed the other clones and turned himself male. However the reason that was not Kagato was Kagato was the one trying to kill her. That is why Chibi Ryoko said "I am also Kagato" Which is a little Kids way of saying you and I are the same why are you trying to Destroy me? Also Showing Chibi-Kagato makes little sense storywise seeing as he is dead Not much chance of story development there also if you look very closely at the childs face in the picture and one of Ryoko the faces match up though the hair and the ears are diffrent.

Magneto_X
06-12-2006, 04:32 PM
What is the third Tenchi OAV titled? Is the anime on You Tube yet?

somestupidname
06-12-2006, 05:44 PM
actully it is on youtube it should be under Tenchi Ova or Tenchi Muyo Ova or just tenchi if you are very patient and don't mind shifting through a bunch of pages

Magneto_X
06-12-2006, 11:05 PM
Thank you, somestupidname.

A few years ago I had heard rumours of a third Tenchi anime. I'm glad it's materialised. :D

Robotech Master
06-13-2006, 08:15 PM
RE:Also Showing Chibi-Kagato makes little sense storywise seeing as he is dead Not much chance of story development there also if you look very closely at the childs face in the picture and one of Ryoko the faces match up though the hair and the ears are diffrent.

A number of Kajishima's notes and writings suggest that Kagato is still alive. The story behind Kagato is that he was originally a clone of Naja Akara, fully female, and later spiritually possessed a prototype body that was a hermaphrodite, and it was the prototype for Ryoko, but had been ditched. He then betrayed Washu, decided to be male, gave himself the name Kagato, and ditched the female parts of him, which became that little girl. For some reason he didn't destroy her and instead she was sealed inside of Noike by Dr. Clay. This provides more evidence that Kagato was the one Dr. Clay was talking about in episode 11, which is more evidence that Kagato may have had contact with Lady Tokimi at some point in his travels.

The implications Kajishima makes are that the original possession of this body was a spiritual one, and that once the body Tenchi killed was done with, the spirit may have gone on a journey across space to go back to the original Naja Akara clone body.

somestupidname
06-13-2006, 09:24 PM
Interesting Information Robotech Master I will have to try and find the true Tenchi novel Fanslations to look some of this up.
All I can say about what you said here is WHA??? I knew the Story behind Kagato was Freaky but even Neon Genesis Evangelion fans would be saying WTF to that storyline.
I still think the girl Tenchi saved was Ryoko maybe I am wrong but there is just something Sweet about him saving a young Ryoko's life. I am a Ryoko fan though so I am biased there.

SAMAS
06-14-2006, 06:00 AM
I think it's the bias talking.

Besides, in the end, Kagato-chan re-merged with Noike.

Remember, there's a reason Ryoko and Kagato look alike: Kagato's body was a male prototype of Ryoko.

Magneto_X
06-14-2006, 09:23 AM
Just watched the entire third OVA on You Tube. It was great. Pretty short, though. It was only six episodes. :(

OverMaster
06-14-2006, 10:02 AM
Is it me, or the girls' ears keep becoming longer and longer and longer? They soon will put Deedlit to shame.

Robotech Master
06-14-2006, 02:08 PM
RE: Just watched the entire third OVA on You Tube. It was great. Pretty short, though. It was only six episodes.

7 actually, the seventh of which is not on You Tube currently. The new OVA was popular enough to warrant the creation of a special episode, just like how the first OVA had the special episode 7.

somestupidname
06-14-2006, 02:42 PM
Hey Robotech master could you put up a link to where to find the info you mentioned about Kagato and the other stuff you mentioned. I haven't been able to find it yet.

Robotech Master
06-14-2006, 08:21 PM
I'n not aware of a link to give you; the information is plainly given in Episode 20 of the OVA (I.E. Special Episode 7 of the 3rd OVA). That's where they reveal that the little girl is Kagato, that Kagato was a hermaphrodite before splitting, and that Dr. Clay had sealed the girl inside Noike before Tokimi pulled her out.

The information about Naja Akara, about Kagato originally being Naja's clone, and the possession of the prototype body, was all plainly told in the 3rd 'True Tenchi' Novel, titled "Washu."

somestupidname
06-14-2006, 09:23 PM
Well I was wrong, I stand corrected. Acording to Wikipedia Robotech Master is absolutely right.

The Real Nemo
06-16-2006, 01:11 AM
First I believe Tenchi-Kami is actually a separate entity from Tenchi, It is the manifestation of Tenchi's potential fully actualized.
What's Tenchi-Kami?

SAMAS
06-16-2006, 07:42 AM
Tenchi in full Deus-ex-Machina mode.

Robotech Master
06-16-2006, 08:05 PM
Yeah, its the God that Tenchi has become, but manifests itself shorty in episode 19 as a being of light shaped like Tenchi.

According to Japanese fans of the series, Tenchi-Kami and Tenchi Masaki are one and the same, but can appear seperately; their connection is the same as Sasami and Tsunami's connection. Apparently this has something to do with Shintoism and Tenchi Muyo actually has some religious symbolism in it, but its lost on Western audiences.

DHX
08-06-2006, 05:12 PM
okay can someone explain this to me? i havent seen a single bit of the 3rd oav all i know is

tenchi has a god form

the three godesses were persuing the same goal from different angle's

tenchi has another girlfriend noike who is in actual fact part kagato

tenchi's mom's actuall name is kiyone

tenchi's dad is actually related to yosho

yosho is married and had two children,

tenchi has a sister.

i think my brains gonna explode... help!

Robotech Master
08-06-2006, 11:50 PM
RE:tenchi has a god form

From the beginning Tenchi was apparently born as an anomaly whose true inner power is greater than that of the Choushin, thus making him currently a god like being that is the greatest known in the Tenchi Multiverse. This is a result of the Choushin's experiments. Tenchi was normal because he was living a normal life on Earth; his powers were awakened slowly due to his incidents with Kagato, the Black Hole Dr. Clay created, and then Z.

RE:the three godesses were persuing the same goal from different angle's

Out of boredom they created the Multiverse as a playground for their experiment: an attempt to bring into existence a being greater than themselves. Because they were Omnipotent, this was impossible, so they sought different methods of creating anomalies, things which made no logical sense and could thus surpass Omnipotence. The Choushin also had to shut off thier Omniscience, because in order for the anomalies to be anomalies, they would have to be things the Choushin could not predict.

RE:tenchi has another girlfriend noike who is in actual fact part kagato

She's a clone of Naja Akara, the woman that Kagato was also a clone of. Her origins are a mystery. She was adopted as the daughter of lady Seto of Jurai. She was sent by Seto to live with Tenchi as part of an arranged marriage, but the fiance thing was actually a front; Noike's true goal was to simply keep an eye on the Tenchi household as they represent the most powerful forces in the universe yet hold allegiance to no established government. A long time ago Dr. Clay apparently sealed Kagato's female half into Noike's body.

RE:tenchi's mom's actuall name is kiyone

Always has been according to the series creator. It's merely a coincidence that the Third OVA is the first to say it. Her name was never Achika; that name was created specifically for the Movie, since that was based on the Tenchi Universe TV series and already had the character Kiyone (mihoshi's partner) who was created by Kajishima's partner Naoko Hasegawa (co-writer of the First OVA).

RE: tenchi's dad is actually related to yosho

A side-effect of Yosho having lived so long. Yosho has been a part of several families over the seven lifetimes he lived on Earth. Noboyuki is a descendent of one of the family lines that Yosho started, and Noboyuki ended up marrying Kiyone, the daughter of Yosho's most recent family line.

RE:yosho is married and had two children,

Some time after he settled down on Earth, Yosho secretly contacted Seito and told her where he was. She arranged for Yosho's family members on Earth to leave the planet and venture out into space where they could become initiated into the culture of Jurai or the Galaxy Police. They would also apparently be given rights to the Eternal Youth that Jurain's have. Yosho's wife and mother of Kiyone became a member of the Galaxy Police. They had two children together, Kiyone and Minaho.

RE: tenchi has a sister.

Nobuyuki and Kiyone had two children, a daughter named Tennyo and then Tenchi. Tennyo received eternal youth as well as the right to leave Earth thanks to Yosho's arrangement with Seto. Tennyo was initiated into Jurain culture and allowed to travel the stars. Nobuyuki was aware of this the whole time but never told Tenchi. In fact, Nobuyuki was aware of just about everything that Yosho knew, but didn't tell Tenchi.

DHX
08-07-2006, 02:07 AM
damn now i'm sure i've got to watch this. one question tenchi still hasnt decided between ayeka and ryoko has he?

edit: thanks robotech master

SAMAS
08-07-2006, 03:29 AM
He doesn't have to. He's Jurarian, and an important one at that.

darth malice
08-16-2006, 02:50 PM
I didn't want to make a new thread for this and since it does have something to do with ova3 I decided to just ask it here. Are the three goddesses equal in power? From the first 2 ovas (mostly the second one) I got the impression that Tokimi was slightly more powerful. When all three goddesses battled did someone have the edge?

somestupidname
08-16-2006, 03:50 PM
actully I think the 3 goddesses had equal power it is just that since the other two were going to take an active role in the mortal world that they Agreed to Have Tokimi seal a part of their power.