Boy Wonder in the movies?

[datsyuk]

Why don't they make more movies with Robin in them? They always focus on Batman. What is the deal. No dynamic dual.

[Guts/Batman]

of course they focus on batman, they need to set the character of batman in the first movie before they do robin. Maybe in the second or third, but not the first. Btw, when was Robin's first appearance?

[Matt]

Because in the live action format, Robin comes across as being unbelievably awful on pretty much every level.
Just look at Robin from the last few Batman movies - he was nothing more than yet another factor which made them truly awful pieces of Hollywood garbage.

[Forsaken_One]

Maybe also because the idea of this dark, mysterious, fear inducing Batman taking on a nine to thirteen year old child who dresses in bright colors and letting him run head first into various costumed freaks or mobsters all of whom have guns wouldn't be that great an idea?

[sikkbones]

the don't want to flaunt the ambiougusly duo factor too much in hollywood these days.....

[tony2074]

i think the dynamic duo is a thing of the past...and i'd rather see robin i his own movie.

[The Joker]

Robin will probably show up at some point. But dont look for him to show up until atleast the third movie. I honestly dont see him appearing as early as the next Batman movie.
Fortunately, I have faith in Nolan. And if he so desires to include Robin. I wouldnt have a problem with it.

As far as an actor playing the role ... I think Jake Gyllenhaal would do a good job. But I'm judging this pretty much on his "Donnie Darko" performance. He plays the disturbed kid well. And I believe you honestly have to be, to be able to run around in that outfit in public! :p

But I digress, he would be way too old by the time Robin is included into the franchise. Oh well.

[lonewolf23k]

If and when they do add Robin, I really think they should be getting a younger actor for the part, and to emphasize the "adopted son/shared tragedy" angle.

[Grant]

If and when they do add Robin, I really think they should be getting a younger actor for the part, and to emphasize the "adopted son/shared tragedy" angle.

I think a younger Robin could work. Whenever he's in his late teens or early twenties it just looks weird especially when he's as tall as Batman. But there's the additional problem of how to play the kid sidekick angle without being obnoxious and still have Robin behave like a kid. The Harry Potter movies seem to do this well. So it is possible.

Apparently Warner Bros really doesn't want Robin in the next set of movies.

[Beastfan07]

Robin works well in the comics, but not in the movies.

[Grant]

Robin works well in the comics, but not in the movies.

I don't know. I think you can make almost anything work if the characters and story are engaging.

[Mia]

I liked Robin in Batman Forever. And when they added him to the animated series I liked the fact that he was in college.

If and when they add Robin to the films (which I strongly believe will happen) I hope they don't use a little kid. A young man in his early 20's would be good.

[tony2074]

they used a 20 odd year old and it did't work. i'd love to see dick grayson be introduced, then you've got that dynamic of him sneaking around this big castle nd discovering the batcave etc. then have him beome robin either right at the ed, or in the next movie. thus skippping the 13 year old years or merely giving us a glance at them, a la dark victory.

[sikkbones]

a death in the family would make an intresting adaptation to movie form... as would it's logical sequal... a lonely place of dying...

[Mia]

they used a 20 odd year old and it did't work. .


Why did it not work? It certainly made more sense, at least to me, than a grown man hanging around with a young boy (no Michael Jackson jokes please) and putting him in harms way.

[Matt]

Did you see Batman Forever and Batman and Robin?
Having a 20-something guy who was as physically big as Batman running around in red and yellow really did look unbelievably daft.
(of course, the horrible, horrible scripts and acting didn't help either but that's another story...)

[Grant]

Why did it not work? It certainly made more sense, at least to me, than a grown man hanging around with a young boy (no Michael Jackson jokes please) and putting him in harms way.

Here's my take on Robin. Batman knows Robin (whether it be Dick, Jason, or Tim) is going to tag along and knows he can't stop him. Batman isn't permitting him to go out he's basically supervising him so the kid doesn't get seriously hurt. it's not so much a father and son relationship as it is a big brother/little brother relationship. I think Dark Victory did a good job establishing this.

An older Robin kind of levels the playing field and makes both Batman and Robin less vulnerable. A younger Robin raises the stakes more.

It's unethical in the real world but like most superhero fiction Batman doesn't work if you apply real world ethics.

[Mia]

Did you see Batman Forever and Batman and Robin?
Having a 20-something guy who was as physically big as Batman running around in red and yellow really did look unbelievably daft.
(of course, the horrible, horrible scripts and acting didn't help either but that's another story...)

In your opinion it did. Yes I saw Batman Forever. And personally I thought it was a far superior film than the first two movies.

And Robin, played by Chris O'Donnell, is/was not as big or as tall as Batman, played by Val Kilmer.

The only thing I can think of as being "daft" is for a grown man running around with a young boy and putting him in harms way. Actually it's not only "daft" it's sick and sadistic.

[Lurch]

I say forget Robin altogether. Some reference needs to made to it for the masses to relate, but I would think it would work as sort of a nickname that Bruce gives Dick while he's in training. When he's introduced in costume, he should be Nightwing, and we should see very little of him on screen, if you ask my humble opinion.

[Mia]

Personally I agree with you. But I have a feeling that Robin will be comming.

[sikkbones]

batman forever was good.. and it was better than batman returns...
but batman and robin was so over the top it was ridulous...
robin can be done in the movies but when u add batgirl it gets ridulous.. kinda why im glad supergirl had her own movie rather than being a sidekick in one of the reeves movies...
and im tottally glad the only cameo that supergirl had from chris reeves was a poster...

[Matt]

In your opinion it did. Yes I saw Batman Forever. And personally I thought it was a far superior film than the first two movies.


Fascinating.
You're the first person I've ever encountered that believes that.

Personally, I found the brightness, Kilmer's and O'Donell's woeful acting, substandard directing and unbelievably awful jokes (getting drive-though and bat-credit card) as well as many other factors enough to make me try to forget Schumacer's thankfully brief short stint on the franchise ever happened.

[Mia]

batman forever was good.. and it was better than batman returns...
but batman and robin was so over the top it was ridulous...
robin can be done in the movies but when u add batgirl it gets ridulous.. kinda why im glad supergirl had her own movie rather than being a sidekick in one of the reeves movies...
and im tottally glad the only cameo that supergirl had from chris reeves was a poster...

Never saw Batman and Robin. I hate George Clooney with a passion. His idea of acting seems to consist of smirking. Actually now that I think of it, I can't remember seeing any of his films. I just find him really, really annoying. Actually I did see him in that movie with Nicole Kidman (which I saw for Nicole), forget the name. I was bored to tears and walked out on it.

[Grant]

The only thing I can think of as being "daft" is for a grown man running around with a young boy and putting him in harms way. Actually it's not only "daft" it's sick and sadistic.

If this is real life I would say so. But it's not. If someone tried to do what Batman does in real life it would be widely considered psychotic.

[Lurch]

His idea of acting seems to consist of smirking. Actually now that I think of it, I can't remember seeing any of his films.

Don't forget his patented "head-bob". Personally, I've never thought the guy was any great shakes as an actor. He just sort of shows up and gives the same performance in every film. However, if you want to see a fantastic film featuring two greatly over-rated actors at their best, rent Out of Sight. It's the best thing Lopez and Clooney have ever done, and the amazing thing is that they did it together!

Aside from that, I thought Clooney looked the part of Bruce Wayne more than any other actor that played him. But I have a feeling Bale is going to be great. Remember how Keaton would put on that fake, low and gruff voice when he was in costume? Well, Bale already talks that way, he looks the part of Wayne, and he's an extremely physical actor.

[ouiyahtsiouiyah]

Batman Forever sucks ASS!!!!!!!!!! This was THE ONLY TIME I have ever seen Batman cry!! I mean come on Batman doesn't cry, theres no crying in vigilantism

[Lurch]

Batman Forever sucks ASS!!!!!!!!!! This was THE ONLY TIME I have ever seen Batman cry!! I mean come on Batman doesn't cry, theres no crying in vigilantism

I'm not exactly passionate about the film either way, but nice Tom Hanks reference. ;)

[ouiyahtsiouiyah]

I'm not exactly passionate about the film either way, but nice Tom Hanks reference. ;)

it was pretty obvious but shanks man :)