View Full Version : A Sad Day for CBR - nay, the world - Britney Spears Mega-Thread
Typo Lad
12-26-2007, 12:01 PM
I suppose you're right. Until then I'll just keep pretending my pillow is her.
Deathstroke
12-26-2007, 01:18 PM
I suppose you're right. Until then I'll just keep pretending my pillow is her.
Since when did you come out as being BritneySpearsGuy?
Typo Lad
12-26-2007, 01:25 PM
Since when did you come out as being BritneySpearsGuy?
Bite my tongue!
Wait no. That's not right.
Athena Bast
12-26-2007, 03:26 PM
According to celebu-blogger Perez Hilton it might be the case that casey isn't the father of the baby after all that he's just been called in as the fall guy.
http://perezhilton.com/?p=11074#more-11074
Casey is being portrayed as a man whore and Jamie-Lynn's baby daddy might be that of a "Zoey 101" executive.
Spike-X
12-26-2007, 03:29 PM
Jamie-Lynn's baby daddy might be that of a "Zoey 101" executive.
Is his last name 'Osbourne', by any chance?
Magneto_X
12-26-2007, 03:42 PM
According to celebu-blogger Perez Hilton it might be the case that casey isn't the father of the baby after all that he's just been called in as the fall guy.
http://perezhilton.com/?p=11074#more-11074
Casey is being portrayed as a man whore and Jamie-Lynn's baby daddy might be that of a "Zoey 101" executive.
That puts this quote of Jaime's in a new context. lol
"I kind of just keep my options open," she said. "I have a bunch of friends that I always hang out with, a bunch of guy friends."
http://thesuperficial.com/2007/12/jamie_lynn_spears_said_she_did.php
Titan76
12-27-2007, 06:09 AM
According to celebu-blogger Perez Hilton it might be the case that casey isn't the father of the baby after all that he's just been called in as the fall guy.
http://perezhilton.com/?p=11074#more-11074
Casey is being portrayed as a man whore and Jamie-Lynn's baby daddy might be that of a "Zoey 101" executive.
Given that their news is coming from "Star" magazine the odds of this being true are real slim.
darkhanamaru
01-04-2008, 01:21 AM
Ug, so i guess the police were called to Britney's house and after three hours, an intoxicated Spears handed her kids over to her ex. Poor kids, poor Britney too. Her career is now really over.
pariah-1972
01-04-2008, 07:12 AM
Ug, so i guess the police were called to Britney's house and after three hours, an intoxicated Spears handed her kids over to her ex. Poor kids, poor Britney too. Her career is now really over.Apparently they took her to the hospital too.
Tmz.com is claiming that Britney isn't on drugs or drinking, she's mental. They claim she's being held in a local hosptial on a "5150 hold," meaning they think she's a danger to herself and others.
Shellhead
01-04-2008, 08:49 AM
I take back all the jokes about her eventually turning tricks in Encino. In all seriousness, I think that Britney will be dead before she turns 30. It will either be suicide or an accident due to reckless and stupid behavior.
pariah-1972
01-04-2008, 08:52 AM
I take back all the jokes about her eventually turning tricks in Encino. In all seriousness, I think that Britney will be dead before she turns 30. It will either be suicide or an accident due to reckless and stupid behavior.As long as she is not addicted to some type of hardcore drugs and gets some mental illness help i think she can come back to the real world and live a long life.
Elegance Liberty
01-04-2008, 08:56 AM
I take back all the jokes about her eventually turning tricks in Encino. In all seriousness, I think that Britney will be dead before she turns 30. It will either be suicide or an accident due to reckless and stupid behavior.
I was actually speaking about this with my supervisor last night before we closed up shop for the day: I told her that I have a sinking feeling that at the rate she's going, Britney's gonna be 2008's Anna Nicole Smith.
Part of me does genuinely feel sorry for her and wishes she could get the help she desperately needs.
But mostly, I think she deserves what she's gotten due to the incredibly mindbogglingly bad choices she's made. As far as I'm concerned, she's buttered her bed, now she's gotta lay in it.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-04-2008, 09:00 AM
God the entire Spears family is fucked up. Jamie did you not learn anything from older sister Britney's stupid shit ? Well now your gonna be a hasbeen at 16. Way to go... you and your family make the stereo types of southern people more true each day.
Typo Lad
01-04-2008, 09:05 AM
God the entire Spears family is fucked up. Jamie did you not learn anything from older sister Britney's stupid shit ? Well now your gonna be a hasbeen at 16. Way to go... you and your family make the stereo types of southern people more true each day.
Hey now. Getting pregnant doesn't make ona hasbeen.
But mostly, I think she deserves what she's gotten due to the incredibly mindbogglingly bad choices she's made. As far as I'm concerned, she's buttered her bed, now she's gotta lay in it.
Now that's a really perverse mixed metaphor.
Elegance Liberty
01-04-2008, 09:23 AM
Now that's a really perverse mixed metaphor.
Have you ever laid in butter before? It's nasty stuff.
... Not that I'd know anything about that.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-04-2008, 09:40 AM
Hey now. Getting pregnant doesn't make ona hasbeen.
No but many unlike the Spears family seem to be ...ya know.... adults. They like a Julia Roberts can have twins and have careers and juggle family. But look at Britney and see that she basically gives a fuck for the kids.
Now imagine her younger sister. Who became a huge party girl at 16 and is having a kid. Imagine if she is as bad as Britney.
StoneGold
01-04-2008, 09:58 AM
Remember when she was our national good little virgin?
howyadoin
01-05-2008, 02:13 PM
Poor kids, poor Britney too. Her career is now really over.I wouldn't be too sure about that. If R. Kelly's career can survive multiple counts of child-molesting, anything's possible.
Shellhead
01-05-2008, 02:18 PM
I wouldn't be too sure about that. If R. Kelly's career can survive multiple counts of child-molesting, anything's possible.
I dunno. Britney made her fortune with her sex appeal, but she doesn't look as appealing these days. Time and gravity will continue to take their toll even if Britney stops wolfing down lattes and fast food like they were going out of style. And besides, we've all seen her vagina, and after two kids, it looked unimpressive.
Athena Bast
01-05-2008, 02:18 PM
Looks like there's going to be a special edition of Dr. Phil on Monday. She's supposed to show up for the taping.
Magneto_X
01-05-2008, 02:41 PM
Remember when she was our national good little virgin?
After the music video "Hit Me Baby One More Time" I'm surprised anyone bought that lie.
Athena:
That sounds like comedy gold. :D
pariah-1972
01-05-2008, 02:42 PM
I wouldn't be too sure about that. If R. Kelly's career can survive multiple counts of child-molesting, anything's possible.R kelly has talent and a die hard fanbase (apparently britney does too)and i don't think most people were all that shocked considering he forced Alliyah to marry him when she was under- age.
and he can also spin it as the prosecutors are racist or whatever (it worked for micheal !)
Magneto_X
01-05-2008, 02:47 PM
pariah:
Don't forget R.Kelly's brother looks exactly like him, too.
pariah-1972
01-05-2008, 03:09 PM
pariah:
Don't forget R.Kelly's brother looks exactly like him, too.He has a brother?
Magneto_X
01-05-2008, 03:25 PM
Pariah:
Here's an article about his brother.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1526835/20060322/kelly_r.jhtml
SUPERECWFAN1
01-05-2008, 04:10 PM
Looks like there's going to be a special edition of Dr. Phil on Monday. She's supposed to show up for the taping.
Its said she's lost the kids for perhaps good finally after the stunt on Friday. But since Dr.Phil is soft and he'll call her bad and not really get into the fact she doesn't seem to care about being a good mother... whats the point ?
Athena Bast
01-05-2008, 05:53 PM
Its said she's lost the kids for perhaps good finally after the stunt on Friday. But since Dr.Phil is soft and he'll call her bad and not really get into the fact she doesn't seem to care about being a good mother... whats the point ?
She was released from the hospital around the time Dr Phil came to see her.
Remember when she was our national good little virgin?
I think I missed that episode.
pariah-1972
01-05-2008, 07:55 PM
Pariah:
Here's an article about his brother.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1526835/20060322/kelly_r.jhtml
I don't see the resemblance.
J. Robb
01-05-2008, 10:14 PM
Looks like there's going to be a special edition of Dr. Phil on Monday. She's supposed to show up for the taping.
I'm sure misery vampire Dr. Phil is licking his chops.
Suzanne
01-05-2008, 11:39 PM
I love what Valerie Bertinelli said about her: "She needs to put on some underwear, go home, and take care of her kids."
Magneto_X
01-05-2008, 11:41 PM
I don't see the resemblance.
It's not a good pic. I saw footage of the brother when the media was doing a story on him and they looked identical.
There's a reason he was offering his bro $50 grand to confess it was him caught on the sex tape. If he didn't look like Kelly this tactic would make no sense.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-06-2008, 12:08 AM
Ohhhh Kevin Federline has been given full custody and now Brits lawyers have quit. Do we honestly blame them for the circus she made it all ?
Lawyers Quit
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-01-02-spears-lawyers_N.htm
Federline gets Custody
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-01-04-spears-custody_N.htm
So pretty much she is an idiot...who didn't care and will go on Dr.Phil and shed some false tears. The kids ranked up there next to watering flowers and she's broken down as the career has crashed and burned.
Shellhead
01-06-2008, 06:28 AM
I think that it's time to let somebody else be famous.
It's not a good pic. I saw footage of the brother when the media was doing a story on him and they looked identical.
There's a reason he was offering his bro $50 grand to confess it was him caught on the sex tape. If he didn't look like Kelly this tactic would make no sense.
When I googled Carey Kelly three pictures of him came up and none looked anything like R Kelly. Just because offering money to someone who doesn't look like him wouldn't make sense doesn't mean Kelly didn't do it. Of course, that assumes that Carey is telling the truth.
pariah-1972
01-06-2008, 10:15 AM
Most people seem to have assumed he did do it even his friends in the industy have said he has "issues: with underage girls.
Most people seem to have assumed he did do it even his friends in the industy have said he has "issues: with underage girls.
My comment about Carey's honesty was in reference to the bribery claim. I'm sure R Kelly pissed on that girl.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-06-2008, 10:22 AM
When I googled Carey Kelly three pictures of him came up and none looked anything like R Kelly. Just because offering money to someone who doesn't look like him wouldn't make sense doesn't mean Kelly didn't do it. Of course, that assumes that Carey is telling the truth.
R.Kelly could always hire this man...
"The Greatest...."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0NCusT2DY
Magneto_X
01-06-2008, 01:47 PM
When I googled Carey Kelly three pictures of him came up and none looked anything like R Kelly. Just because offering money to someone who doesn't look like him wouldn't make sense doesn't mean Kelly didn't do it. Of course, that assumes that Carey is telling the truth.
Can't argue with that.
It's no wonder Spears has gone completely nuts.
Check out this video of her being taken to the hospital....
BRITNEY SPEARS ON A STRETCHER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc7QT4y3hrk&NR=1)
Ignore the ambulance and instead look at the literally hundreds of paparazzi lining the streets, listen to the helicopters hovering overhead, and you can really see what pushed this girl over the edge.
Fame is a rough game, but it’s only been in the last couple of years that anyone has found themselves living the real world equivalent of the “Truman Show”, like Britney has.
I’m honestly not sure that anyone could take this kind of constant assault for too long with out going nuts too.
You know, rick, I think you're right. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the constant media hounding her led to her snapping.
And, come on, people. It's a hospital. You block the roads, you should be arrested and beaten.
jessecuster3
01-07-2008, 06:13 AM
Its nice that some people have some sympathy for her. As her younger sister is now illustrating, the problem stems from bad parenting. The girls do not seem to be getting the guidance they and all children deserve.
Its nice that some people have some sympathy for her. As her younger sister is now illustrating, the problem stems from bad parenting. The girls do not seem to be getting the guidance they and all children deserve.
There are tons of reasons why the Spears family is as screwed up as it is. But having their whole lives surrounded by hundreds of cameras at every moment of the day and night can’t do anything but make a bad situation infinitely worse.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 07:25 AM
It's no wonder Spears has gone completely nuts.
Check out this video of her being taken to the hospital....
BRITNEY SPEARS ON A STRETCHER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc7QT4y3hrk&NR=1)
Ignore the ambulance and instead look at the literally hundreds of paparazzi lining the streets, listen to the helicopters hovering overhead, and you can really see what pushed this girl over the edge.
Fame is a rough game, but it’s only been in the last couple of years that anyone has found themselves living the real world equivalent of the “Truman Show”, like Britney has.
I’m honestly not sure that anyone could take this kind of constant assault for too long with out going nuts too.The problem is she has been courting the media since day one non stop, so i find it hard to feel any sympathy for her now.
if she were to move out of la and keep a low profile (like brad pitt and angelina jolie have done) then theres a very real chance theres going to be no paparazzi around to follow you.
jessecuster3
01-07-2008, 08:59 AM
The problem is she has been courting the media since day one non stop, so i find it hard to feel any sympathy for her now.
if she were to move out of la and keep a low profile (like brad pitt and angelina jolie have done) then theres a very real chance theres going to be no paparazzi around to follow you.
I am not sure that you can easily equate the two. Briteny has "been in the limelight" since she was 15. She could not and does not have the years of experience with paparazzi that Pitt and Jolie do.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 09:27 AM
I am not sure that you can easily equate the two. Briteny has "been in the limelight" since she was 15. She could not and does not have the years of experience with paparazzi that Pitt and Jolie do.Well i'm no Einstein and i can pretty much tell you that if you don't live in la you are going to have a hard time finding any paparazzi to follow you around.
although she has basically shown a lack of common sense.
Dreadstar
01-07-2008, 09:49 AM
Well i'm no Einstein and i can pretty much tell you that if you don't live in la you are going to have a hard time finding any paparazzi to follow you around.
Really? Interesting conjecture, though I suppose it's at least partially correct. I'm sure the numbers would diminish. But "hard time finding any?" Don't know if I believe that. No, I'm pretty sure I don't believe that.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-07-2008, 09:56 AM
It's no wonder Spears has gone completely nuts.
Check out this video of her being taken to the hospital....
BRITNEY SPEARS ON A STRETCHER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc7QT4y3hrk&NR=1)
Ignore the ambulance and instead look at the literally hundreds of paparazzi lining the streets, listen to the helicopters hovering overhead, and you can really see what pushed this girl over the edge.
Fame is a rough game, but it’s only been in the last couple of years that anyone has found themselves living the real world equivalent of the “Truman Show”, like Britney has.
I’m honestly not sure that anyone could take this kind of constant assault for too long with out going nuts too.
Yeah when you live Hollywood and become famous you live in a BIG GLASS BUBBLE. People are always following and looking at you. But to me if you want smart sane people look at the stars look at those like Martin Sheen who after doing X-MAS shopping at the mall was followed as people snapped pics , video taped him as he laughed and smiled.
"How is everyone's holiday ? Is everyone having a Merry Christmas like me ? I hope you are."
The guys chatted with Sheen asking him if he was gonna visit his grandkids during the holidays.
"Ohh yeah , gonna go see my grandkids this weekend. Can't wait . You all have a happy holidays."
To me its stars like that can show...they know how to handle things. Many of them do...even with cameras shoved in their face , being followed to stores ect ect. They seem to know how to handle the glare and spotlight.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 11:00 AM
Really? Interesting conjecture, though I suppose it's at least partially correct. I'm sure the numbers would diminish. But "hard time finding any?" Don't know if I believe that. No, I'm pretty sure I don't believe that.Paparazzi only go where there are lots of celebrities, so if you go somewhere where theres not a lot of celebrities you are going to be hard pressed to find paparazzi.
its pretty simple really.
When celebrities truly want to escape them it's usually not that hard but then they start to miss the attention and get lonely and bored.
Shellhead
01-07-2008, 12:51 PM
I'm sure misery vampire Dr. Phil is licking his chops.
He's backing away from the situation now:
http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=291351&Gt1=7703
"Dr. Phil Cancels His Britney Spears Show
"In a statement posted Monday on his Web site, McGraw said the 26-year-old pop star's situation was "too intense" for him to go forward with the show. He didn't say whether he planned to reschedule."
He probably realized that there was a strong possibility that she wouldn't show up, and that would be a blow to his rep.
Magneto_X
01-07-2008, 02:07 PM
too intense = Britney's not interested
Shellhead
01-07-2008, 02:10 PM
too intense = Britney's not interested
And also she probably dropped the F-bomb on him.
Michael P
01-07-2008, 02:12 PM
too intense = Britney's not interested
That or he realized if Britney were to continue her freefall after appearing on his show (which, c'mon, you don't have to be Layla Miller to know how this one will end up), even the slack-jawed man-apes that make up the preponderance of his audience would realize he doesn't actually know what the hell he's doing.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 02:18 PM
He's backing away from the situation now:
http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=291351&Gt1=7703
"Dr. Phil Cancels His Britney Spears Show
"In a statement posted Monday on his Web site, McGraw said the 26-year-old pop star's situation was "too intense" for him to go forward with the show. He didn't say whether he planned to reschedule."
He probably realized that there was a strong possibility that she wouldn't show up, and that would be a blow to his rep.I can't believe he would exploit her like that... i can't believe Britney would even consider something like that...
what the fuck is this world coming to?
Darth Joker
01-07-2008, 04:57 PM
I want to say a few words in defence of Dr. Phil, as I have at times been a fan of his show, and am a bit surprised by the level of hate that some here seem to possibly have for him.
It's quite concievable that Britney's mom did indeed call Dr. Phil, and asked him to step in and try to help. If so, I don't see where it's wrong for him to respond as he did to that request.
Now, if he wasn't contacted by anybody who's a very close relative of Britney Spears or by Britney Spears herself, then I myself would say that it would be very wrong of him to just barge on in to a hospital and try to insert himself into her situation.
However, if her mother called Dr. Phil, then I'm actually inclined to commend him for risking to get involved in a highly explosive, already well off the rails, situation, in the hopes of helping someone out.
Some may say that only Britney Spears herself, since she is an adult herself, should have the right to get particular psychiatrists/psychologists involved, but quite frankly... Britney is getting to the point where I think you can argue that she's of such unsound mind that somebody should be given a level of unquestioned treatment authority over her - and next of kin (i.e. her mother, perhaps), makes some sense to me personally as being such a potential unquestioned authority.
Now, I'm not entirely comfortable myself with the Dr. Phil nationalized televised set-up - I've always been somewhat doubting of the idea that people can truly get productive help for serious problems while in the limelight of millions of viewers.
However, Dr. Phil himself, from what I've read, does have degrees in the pertinent fields, including a PhD in one particular field of psychology, IIRC. There is a definite sensationalist aspect to many of his shows, yes, but he usually strikes me as knowing his stuff fairly well.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 05:11 PM
I want to say a few words in defence of Dr. Phil, as I have at times been a fan of his show, and am a bit surprised by the level of hate that some here seem to possibly have for him.
It's quite concievable that Britney's mom did indeed call Dr. Phil, and asked him to step in and try to help. If so, I don't see where it's wrong for him to respond as he did to that request.
Now, if he wasn't contacted by anybody who's a very close relative of Britney Spears or by Britney Spears herself, then I myself would say that it would be very wrong of him to just barge on in to a hospital and try to insert himself into her situation.
However, if her mother called Dr. Phil, then I'm actually inclined to commend him for risking to get involved in a highly explosive, already well off the rails, situation, in the hopes of helping someone out.
Some may say that only Britney Spears herself, since she is an adult herself, should have the right to get particular psychiatrists/psychologists involved, but quite frankly... Britney is getting to the point where I think you can argue that she's of such unsound mind that somebody should be given a level of unquestioned treatment authority over her - and next of kin (i.e. her mother, perhaps), makes some sense to me personally as being such a potential unquestioned authority.
Now, I'm not entirely comfortable myself with the Dr. Phil nationalized televised set-up - I've always been somewhat doubting of the idea that people can truly get productive help for serious problems while in the limelight of millions of viewers.
However, Dr. Phil himself, from what I've read, does have degrees in the pertinent fields, including a PhD in one particular field of psychology, IIRC. There is a definite sensationalist aspect to many of his shows, yes, but he usually strikes me as knowing his stuff fairly well.I don't have a problem with Dr Phil per-se but i don't think he should have visited Britney in the hospital without her permission and it has been stated that that is against the policy of all hospitals to let someone in to see a patient without permission unless he is affiliated with the hospital.
and it seems to me that is or was trying to exploit her and only changed his mind because of the backlash.
Magneto_X
01-07-2008, 05:49 PM
I can't believe he would exploit her like that... i can't believe Britney would even consider something like that...
what the fuck is this world coming to?
Actually, I think he'd be good for her.
She needs *someone* to point out how screwed up she is and point her in a direction of professionals to help her.
Britney has none of that. In fact, she seems to be refusing to do anything to stop her self destructive behavior.
Magneto_X
01-07-2008, 05:51 PM
I don't have a problem with Dr Phil per-se but i don't think he should have visited Britney in the hospital without her permission and it has been stated that that is against the policy of all hospitals to let someone in to see a patient without permission unless he is affiliated with the hospital.
and it seems to me that is or was trying to exploit her and only changed his mind because of the backlash.
Agreed.
*character limit*
Darth Joker
01-07-2008, 06:04 PM
I don't have a problem with Dr Phil per-se but i don't think he should have visited Britney in the hospital without her permission and it has been stated that that is against the policy of all hospitals to let someone in to see a patient without permission unless he is affiliated with the hospital.
and it seems to me that is or was trying to exploit her and only changed his mind because of the backlash.
Well, to me, it largely comes down to what Britney's mother did or did not do. If Britney's mom asked Dr. Phil to get involved, then I don't fault him for trying to get involved. If he got involved with out any request from any of the Spears family, then yeah - he's exploiting the situation for his own gain.
In my opinion, Britney has, at this point, shown enough dangerous (to herself, to her children, and to others) and self-destructive behavior that I think that a good case can be made that she doesn't get to make the calls on her own treatment anymore - that she should perhaps get treatment whether she wants it or not.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 06:08 PM
Actually, I think he'd be good for her.
She needs *someone* to point out how screwed up she is and point her in a direction of professionals to help her.
Britney has none of that. In fact, she seems to be refusing to do anything to stop her self destructive behavior.Well bringing Dr Phil into the situation made things a lot worse from what i hear.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 06:11 PM
Well, to me, it largely comes down to what Britney's mother did or did not do. If Britney's mom asked Dr. Phil to get involved, then I don't fault him for trying to get involved. If he got involved with out any request from any of the Spears family, then yeah - he's exploiting the situation for his own gain.
In my opinion, Britney has, at this point, shown enough dangerous (to herself, to her children, and to others) and self-destructive behavior that I think that a good case can be made that she doesn't get to make the calls on her own treatment anymore - that she should perhaps get treatment whether she wants it or not.I don't have a problem with her mom asking Dr Phil to help out but to circumvent hospital rules via his power as a celebrity is not right.
and if he is using this situation to make a show about it with or without anyones permission that is exploiting the situation worse than anything Tmz does.
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Well, to me, it largely comes down to what Britney's mother did or did not do. If Britney's mom asked Dr. Phil to get involved, then I don't fault him for trying to get involved. If he got involved with out any request from any of the Spears family, then yeah - he's exploiting the situation for his own gain.
In my opinion, Britney has, at this point, shown enough dangerous (to herself, to her children, and to others) and self-destructive behavior that I think that a good case can be made that she doesn't get to make the calls on her own treatment anymore - that she should perhaps get treatment whether she wants it or not.Unfortunately you can't force treatment on someone unless it is court ordered and you have to be REALLY messed up for that to happen.
Magneto_X
01-07-2008, 06:18 PM
Well bringing Dr Phil into the situation made things a lot worse from what i hear.
True, but its clear she needs help.
No-one else seems to be in the picture to make Brit see how screwed up she is (Drew Pinski would be better alternative, IMO).
Of course, Brit is running away so Phil's still out of luck.
I agree with whoever said to bring in the authorities to put her in a hospital for her own good since Brit isn't interested in pursuing medial assistance on her own.
The only direction she's heading these days is the grave if something doesn't happen soon. :(
pariah-1972
01-07-2008, 07:57 PM
True, but its clear she needs help.
No-one else seems to be in the picture to make Brit see how screwed up she is (Drew Pinski would be better alternative, IMO).
Of course, Brit is running away so Phil's still out of luck.
I agree with whoever said to bring in the authorities to put her in a hospital for her own good since Brit isn't interested in pursuing medial assistance on her own.
The only direction she's heading these days is the grave if something doesn't happen soon. :(Well like i said you would have to have a court order to forcibly put her in a mental hospital.
i wonder if Madonna would talk to her? thats her idol and maybe she would listen to her above anyone else.
Magneto_X
01-07-2008, 09:44 PM
Well like i said you would have to have a court order to forcibly put her in a mental hospital.
i wonder if Madonna would talk to her? thats her idol and maybe she would listen to her above anyone else.
I don't think anyone could convince her to get help. From how she's been reacting to everyone who has tried from family to Dr.Phil she just runs off wih her fingers in her ears.
It would be great if Madonna could guide her but I don't see it doing any good then previous attempts.
The best we can hope for she'll do something bad, hopefully not involving the kids or any innocent bystanders, that the authorities will have no choice but to intervene.
It better happen soon. The way Brit's going she's not gonna survive '08. :(
Nick Soapdish
01-07-2008, 09:54 PM
However, Dr. Phil himself, from what I've read, does have degrees in the pertinent fields, including a PhD in one particular field of psychology, IIRC. There is a definite sensationalist aspect to many of his shows, yes, but he usually strikes me as knowing his stuff fairly well.
He might have degrees in the fields, but he never really struck me as knowing his stuff. (I don't watch regularly though. But I've seen some of his stuff and some of his hyping of himself.) He may be better at psychological treatment than Jerry Springer and better at solving problems, but that's setting an awfully low bar.
And yeah, I agree that doing it on national tv makes it a lot tougher, but what's really bad is him playing to that audience at the expense of his victim/guest.
Actually, I think he'd be good for her.
She needs *someone* to point out how screwed up she is and point her in a direction of professionals to help her.
Britney has none of that. In fact, she seems to be refusing to do anything to stop her self destructive behavior.
While Spears most definitely needs professional help, she doesn't need it from a hack, media whore like Doctor Phil.
Darth Joker
01-08-2008, 02:07 AM
True, but its clear she needs help.
No-one else seems to be in the picture to make Brit see how screwed up she is (Drew Pinski would be better alternative, IMO).
Of course, Brit is running away so Phil's still out of luck.
I agree with whoever said to bring in the authorities to put her in a hospital for her own good since Brit isn't interested in pursuing medial assistance on her own.
The only direction she's heading these days is the grave if something doesn't happen soon. :(
I agree. For a while, I thought that most of Spears' most recent antics where just publicity stunts - but it's getting to the point, now, where this level and kind of publicity really isn't a good thing for her and her career, and she has serious mental problems.
I have heard one theory (perhaps someone mentioned it here on this thread) that she may be bi-polar. That strikes me as definitely possible. It fits a lot of the internal contradictions to a great deal of her behavior, in my mind, even stretching all the way back to the early portions of her career.
What we may have seen as simple irony might have been signs of a bi-polar disorder.
pariah-1972
01-08-2008, 02:52 AM
I agree. For a while, I thought that most of Spears' most recent antics where just publicity stunts - but it's getting to the point, now, where this level and kind of publicity really isn't a good thing for her and her career, and she has serious mental problems.
I have heard one theory (perhaps someone mentioned it here on this thread) that she may be bi-polar. That strikes me as definitely possible. It fits a lot of the internal contradictions to a great deal of her behavior, in my mind, even stretching all the way back to the early portions of her career.
What we may have seen as simple irony might have been signs of a bi-polar disorder.I always thought it was her record company exploiting the cultural divide (among other groups)
SUPERECWFAN1
01-08-2008, 11:14 PM
The press has a photo of Jamie Lynn Spears as she's taking a GED since the rich private school won't allow her back in due to a pregnacy. Nick canceled her TV Show as well adding to the freefall. She used an excuse to leave in November that she had a film to do but pretty knew they were gonna kick her out of the school.
http://www.411mania.com/music/news/66552/Jamie-Lynn-Spears-Trying-To-Get-Back-Into-School.htm
You have to pity these 2. I know I do....and thats whats sad. They had the it all. Perhaps there is a lesson here about fame . Those who aren't mentally able to handle it at a young age...often enough end up paying for it.
pariah-1972
01-08-2008, 11:56 PM
The press has a photo of Jamie Lynn Spears as she's taking a GED since the rich private school won't allow her back in due to a pregnacy. Nick canceled her TV Show as well adding to the freefall. She used an excuse to leave in November that she had a film to do but pretty knew they were gonna kick her out of the school.
http://www.411mania.com/music/news/66552/Jamie-Lynn-Spears-Trying-To-Get-Back-Into-School.htm
You have to pity these 2. I know I do....and thats whats sad. They had the it all. Perhaps there is a lesson here about fame . Those who aren't mentally able to handle it at a young age...often enough end up paying for it.The thing i worry about is whats gonna happen to Jaime Lynn after the kid? i can't see anyone hiring her and she going to be an unemployed adolescent with a lot of time and money on her hands to get into trouble.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 12:12 AM
The thing i worry about is whats gonna happen to Jaime Lynn after the kid? i can't see anyone hiring her and she going to be an unemployed adolescent with a lot of time and money on her hands to get into trouble.
Ohhh yeah she's basically fucked her career out the window. They put this 19 yearold teen boy around their daughter and bragged at how much he was trusted ect ect. They forgot at 19 ..that he basically is like all 19 yearolds around teen girls at that age. Wanting to get laid.
Anyhow you have to ...and don't laugh ok....but there is a guy who actually treats his teen daughter like a teenager. Its Hulk Hogan. Instead of saying "Hit a club , lets do some pot and party since we wanna be your friends...instead of parents."
The best thing I watched was when this 22 yearold came by to date 17 yearold Brooke. Hogan basically rode him and got him to admit some things. He revealed he had condoms in his wallet which Hogan got angry. He kicked him out. Brooke got pissed since she felt her dad over stepped.
But hell .... don't ya think Jamie Lynn wishes she had a Hulk Hogan to say "Ok get out . You aren't taking my daughter out."
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 12:17 AM
Missing post above.....see if this posts here.
Magneto_X
01-09-2008, 01:42 AM
While Spears most definitely needs professional help, she doesn't need it from a hack, media whore like Doctor Phil.
Neither do I but it's better then no-one at all.
Magneto_X
01-09-2008, 01:44 AM
I agree. For a while, I thought that most of Spears' most recent antics where just publicity stunts - but it's getting to the point, now, where this level and kind of publicity really isn't a good thing for her and her career, and she has serious mental problems.
I have heard one theory (perhaps someone mentioned it here on this thread) that she may be bi-polar. That strikes me as definitely possible. It fits a lot of the internal contradictions to a great deal of her behavior, in my mind, even stretching all the way back to the early portions of her career.
What we may have seen as simple irony might have been signs of a bi-polar disorder.
If you're correct that she is bipolar Brit's in worse shape then I thought.
Magneto_X
01-09-2008, 01:49 AM
Ohhh yeah she's basically fucked her career out the window. They put this 19 yearold teen boy around their daughter and bragged at how much he was trusted ect ect. They forgot at 19 ..that he basically is like all 19 yearolds around teen girls at that age. Wanting to get laid.
Anyhow you have to ...and don't laugh ok....but there is a guy who actually treats his teen daughter like a teenager. Its Hulk Hogan. Instead of saying "Hit a club , lets do some pot and party since we wanna be your friends...instead of parents."
The best thing I watched was when this 22 yearold came by to date 17 yearold Brooke. Hogan basically rode him and got him to admit some things. He revealed he had condoms in his wallet which Hogan got angry. He kicked him out. Brooke got pissed since she felt her dad over stepped.
But hell .... don't ya think Jamie Lynn wishes she had a Hulk Hogan to say "Ok get out . You aren't taking my daughter out."
Hogan is doing a better job as a parents then Brit and Jamie Lynn's parents but he's going overboard in the other direction.
It's fine to be protective of kids but teenagers will have sex whether parents are fine with it or not.
Hogan should be *glad* that Brooke's boyfriend had condoms if they were at that stage in their relationship. It would be worse if they were having sex but using *no* protection, IMO. It shows her daughter is being responsible.
Paradox
01-09-2008, 03:33 AM
Did pariah-1972 just get off the boat?:
Paparazzi only go where there are lots of celebrities, so if you go somewhere where theres not a lot of celebrities you are going to be hard pressed to find paparazzi.
its pretty simple really.
Yeah, if YOU go somewhere there's not celebrities, you won't find a lot of paparazzi. But it's kind of inherent that if CELEBRITIES go where there usually aren't a lot of celebrities, there's STILL paparazzi. See, they actually seek out and follow celebrities. It's not like they're lucky and just happen to run into them because they're in LA. Britney could go to freaking Antarctica and there'd still be a crowd of cameras around her.
Paradox
01-09-2008, 03:35 AM
Magneto_X could make a better point:
Hogan is doing a better job as a parents then Brit and Jamie Lynn's parents but he's going overboard in the other direction.
It's fine to be protective of kids but teenagers will have sex whether parents are fine with it or not.
Hogan should be *glad* that Brooke's boyfriend had condoms if they were at that stage in their relationship. It would be worse if they were having sex but using *no* protection, IMO. It shows her daughter is being responsible.
He should also remember that young men carry condoms in their wallets. Have ever since they became readily available. Heck, the "nice guy virgins" are probably MORE likely to have one. And more likely for it to be expired. ;)
Michael P
01-09-2008, 04:33 AM
He should also remember that young men carry condoms in their wallets. Have ever since they became readily available. Heck, the "nice guy virgins" are probably MORE likely to have one. And more likely for it to be expired. ;)
Hey, I replace mine every six months, whether I need to or not!
Er, I mean... HEY, LOOK OVER THERE!
JeffreyWKramer
01-09-2008, 06:30 AM
Well, to me, it largely comes down to what Britney's mother did or did not do. If Britney's mom asked Dr. Phil to get involved, then I don't fault him for trying to get involved. If he got involved with out any request from any of the Spears family, then yeah - he's exploiting the situation for his own gain.
I have a problem with Dr. Phil's continued existence.
He's a dipshit that deserves a quick fade back into obscurity.
JeffreyWKramer
01-09-2008, 06:36 AM
I want to say a few words in defence of Dr. Phil, as I have at times been a fan of his show, and am a bit surprised by the level of hate that some here seem to possibly have for him.
It's quite concievable that Britney's mom did indeed call Dr. Phil, and asked him to step in and try to help. If so, I don't see where it's wrong for him to respond as he did to that request.
Now, if he wasn't contacted by anybody who's a very close relative of Britney Spears or by Britney Spears herself, then I myself would say that it would be very wrong of him to just barge on in to a hospital and try to insert himself into her situation.
However, if her mother called Dr. Phil, then I'm actually inclined to commend him for risking to get involved in a highly explosive, already well off the rails, situation, in the hopes of helping someone out.
Some may say that only Britney Spears herself, since she is an adult herself, should have the right to get particular psychiatrists/psychologists involved, but quite frankly... Britney is getting to the point where I think you can argue that she's of such unsound mind that somebody should be given a level of unquestioned treatment authority over her - and next of kin (i.e. her mother, perhaps), makes some sense to me personally as being such a potential unquestioned authority.
Now, I'm not entirely comfortable myself with the Dr. Phil nationalized televised set-up - I've always been somewhat doubting of the idea that people can truly get productive help for serious problems while in the limelight of millions of viewers.
However, Dr. Phil himself, from what I've read, does have degrees in the pertinent fields, including a PhD in one particular field of psychology, IIRC. There is a definite sensationalist aspect to many of his shows, yes, but he usually strikes me as knowing his stuff fairly well.
As someone that works as a psychotherapist and who knows a fair bit about psychology and related disciplines, I can tell you that Dr. Phil doesn't know his stuff nearly as well as he pretends is the case. He's made factual errors in statements about a variety of topics, including effectiveness of treatment for sexual offenders, efficacy of treatment for sexual abuse survivors and what works and doesn't work in couple therapy, and his demonstrated understanding of things like cognitive-behavioral therapy suggests that he hasn't kept up with the field since at least the time he got his degree.
Everything I've ever seen from the guy and his writings tells me he's a therapist of fairly average-to-slightly-below-average knowledge and skill that has become famous for no good reason.
Paradox
01-09-2008, 07:03 AM
JeffreyWKramer misses the connection:
Everything I've ever seen from the guy and his writings tells me he's a therapist of fairly average-to-slightly-below-average knowledge and skill that has become famous for no good reason.
Oprah said he should be famous, therefore...
Oh, you said no good reason! :evilsmile
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 08:33 AM
Hogan is doing a better job as a parents then Brit and Jamie Lynn's parents but he's going overboard in the other direction.
It's fine to be protective of kids but teenagers will have sex whether parents are fine with it or not.
Hogan should be *glad* that Brooke's boyfriend had condoms if they were at that stage in their relationship. It would be worse if they were having sex but using *no* protection, IMO. It shows her daughter is being responsible.
They weren't bf/gf. They had chatted on the phone and that was their 1st date. Hogan already had issues that the boy was 5 years older and 22....as he would ask.. "Do you feel right dating a 17 yearold being 22 ?"
I believe there was something else that made Hulk nix his relationship and all. I'm trying to remember if it was either the guy hadn't been practicing safe sex and had 5-10 girls he had slept with or I think he told Hulk he had dated a 16 yearold. It was something...that sent Hulkamania's warning bells off.
They weren't bf/gf. They had chatted on the phone and that was their 1st date. Hogan already had issues that the boy was 5 years older and 22....as he would ask.. "Do you feel right dating a 17 yearold being 22 ?"
I believe there was something else that made Hulk nix his relationship and all. I'm trying to remember if it was either the guy hadn't been practicing safe sex and had 5-10 girls he had slept with or I think he told Hulk he had dated a 16 yearold. It was something...that sent Hulkamania's warning bells off.
Hey, jerk head. Keep on topic.
This thread isn't about the private life of a celebrity no one really cares about and has no real impact on society.
This is a thread about Britney Spears.
pariah-1972
01-09-2008, 08:47 AM
Hogan is a bit strict on Brooke (ok more than a little)but if i had a daughter with a bod like that i probably wouldn't let her out of the house either (except for Maxim photo shoots to help her career of course;) )
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Hey, jerk head. Keep on topic.
This thread isn't about the private life of a celebrity no one really cares about and has no real impact on society.
This is a thread about Britney Spears.
Hey dingleberry ...read back... it sprang off from the whole Jamie Lynn Spears thing and lack of parenthood issues involved with the Spears family. I brought him up an example of a parent. Nothing more ...you can still discuss the blackhole career of Britney Spears...
Hogan is a bit strict on Brooke (ok more than a little)but if i had a daughter with a bod like that i probably wouldn't let her out of the house either (except for Maxim photo shoots to help her career of course;) )
Yeah ..I know. But to be fair she's over 18 now and I think he's relaxed things . The Maxim thing always made me laugh since Hulk's reaction was pretty silly. I'm sure he knew the photos were gonna be a bit edgy since its Maxim.
Typo Lad
01-09-2008, 09:02 AM
Hey dingleberry .
You totally missed the point.
HA HA!
pariah-1972
01-09-2008, 09:05 AM
Hey dingleberry ...read back... it sprang off from the whole Jamie Lynn Spears thing and lack of parenthood issues involved with the Spears family. I brought him up an example of a parent. Nothing more ...you can still discuss the blackhole career of Britney Spears...
Yeah ..I know. But to be fair she's over 18 now and I think he's relaxed things . The Maxim thing always made me laugh since Hulk's reaction was pretty silly. I'm sure he knew the photos were gonna be a bit edgy since its Maxim.He would have to learn how to read first wouldn't he?
(JK;) )
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 09:05 AM
You totally missed the point.
HA HA!
I pretty much accept that I did.... ohh well....
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 09:08 AM
He would have to learn how to read first wouldn't he?
(JK;) )
Getting back to Britney .....I wonder what comes next ? Does she ever fight for the children back or does she futher go crazy ? Her attornies quit after this latest debacle so she's gonna have to hire new ones and start this circus all over.
Paradox
01-09-2008, 09:11 AM
SUPERECWFAN1 thinks real is real?:
They weren't bf/gf. They had chatted on the phone and that was their 1st date. Hogan already had issues that the boy was 5 years older and 22....as he would ask.. "Do you feel right dating a 17 yearold being 22 ?"
I believe there was something else that made Hulk nix his relationship and all. I'm trying to remember if it was either the guy hadn't been practicing safe sex and had 5-10 girls he had slept with or I think he told Hulk he had dated a 16 yearold. It was something...that sent Hulkamania's warning bells off.
Eh, he was probably mostly attempting it to get his mug on TV for his resume.
pariah-1972
01-09-2008, 09:15 AM
Getting back to Britney .....I wonder what comes next ? Does she ever fight for the children back or does she futher go crazy ? Her attornies quit after this latest debacle so she's gonna have to hire new ones and start this circus all over.I think shes givin up that fight for now, she still has testimony to give for the court over this and theres still that "hit and run" thing shes got going.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 09:20 AM
Eh, he was probably mostly attempting it to get his mug on TV for his resume.
Yeah... pretty much. The show to me once they had Randy Orton on ...well....:)
SUPERECWFAN1
01-09-2008, 09:24 AM
I think shes givin up that fight for now, she still has testimony to give for the court over this and theres still that "hit and run" thing shes got going.
Its said they took her car finally. I saw a newslink where they took the car since she never got a valid California drivers license. Her attorney tried a weird arguement claiming Britney didn't need to get one there since she toured and traveled a lot.
Titan76
01-10-2008, 12:52 AM
The thing i worry about is whats gonna happen to Jaime Lynn after the kid? i can't see anyone hiring her and she going to be an unemployed adolescent with a lot of time and money on her hands to get into trouble.
Are you serious? This is Hollywood, if Paris Hilton can star in a movie JLS will have no problem getting work even with a kid if she wants to continue in the show/movie business. I mean I heard her last show had over 7 million people watching it which is double what it normally averages.
Hogan is doing a better job as a parents then Brit and Jamie Lynn's parents but he's going overboard in the other direction.
Hogan lets his son get drunk and even provides him with the alcohol and allows him to race his car(even when he had all those other speeding tickets) while under the influence which caused that accident that nearly got his son's friend killed.
Meanwhile Brit has been making all her stupid decisions as a grown-ass woman whom her parents have no control over and their 16 year daughter got pregnant.
I don't see Brit's parents being better then Hogan but I also don't see being better then Brit's parents either. Just because Hogan is overprotected over his hot daughter doesn't make him a good parent. They all shitty parents.
pariah-1972
01-10-2008, 01:05 AM
Are you serious? This is Hollywood, if Paris Hilton can star in a movie JLS will have no problem getting work even with a kid if she wants to continue in the show/movie business. I mean I heard her last show had over 7 million people watching it which is double what it normally averages.
s.And how well did that movie make? most kid stars have a very short shelf life in Hollywood anyways and then they turn to drugs and alcohol before or after there star falls completely.
Paradox
01-10-2008, 01:54 AM
pariah-1972 must remember relativity:
And how well did that movie make?
Well, I'm betting Paris made more off it than ten times your annual salary. :)
most kid stars have a very short shelf life in Hollywood anyways and then they turn to drugs and alcohol before or after there star falls completely.
HUGE myth. An handful of ex-kid stars have had troubles. The rest you simply don't hear from any more, because they become "regular people". It's not exciting to report that so and so from "old sitcom" is having a successful year in their specialty bake shop.
Titan76
01-10-2008, 02:52 AM
Well, I'm betting Paris made more off it than ten times your annual salary. :)
HUGE myth. An handful of ex-kid stars have had troubles. The rest you simply don't hear from any more, because they become "regular people". It's not exciting to report that so and so from "old sitcom" is having a successful year in their specialty bake shop.
I have no need to comment any further.
pariah-1972
01-10-2008, 07:20 AM
Well, I'm betting Paris made more off it than ten times your annual salary. :)
HUGE myth. An handful of ex-kid stars have had troubles. The rest you simply don't hear from any more, because they become "regular people". It's not exciting to report that so and so from "old sitcom" is having a successful year in their specialty bake shop.All i am saying is that there is a huge chance she could end up like Dano Plato or her big sis.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-14-2008, 07:33 AM
All i am saying is that there is a huge chance she could end up like Dano Plato or her big sis.
Spears father has substance abuse problems and he's the guy they confirm that contacted Dr.Phil. Its been rumored that Spears is using drugs to cover her being bi-polar.
Watched Talk Soup on E on Saturday and damn....TMZ makes what we post about Britney seem great. One held up a noose and claimed they were gonna put it in her car that was towed. It shocked me and it really makes me realize how sad it is to have a mental breakdown as a famous star and have assholes like that mocking you.
Shellhead
01-14-2008, 07:52 AM
It shocked me and it really makes me realize how sad it is to have a mental breakdown as a famous star and have assholes like that mocking you.
Americans love to see people rise to fame and fortune and then fall again. It's like the people who go to the Indy 500 just to see the car crashes.
pariah-1972
01-14-2008, 10:38 AM
Spears father has substance abuse problems and he's the guy they confirm that contacted Dr.Phil. Its been rumored that Spears is using drugs to cover her being bi-polar.
Watched Talk Soup on E on Saturday and damn....TMZ makes what we post about Britney seem great. One held up a noose and claimed they were gonna put it in her car that was towed. It shocked me and it really makes me realize how sad it is to have a mental breakdown as a famous star and have assholes like that mocking you.Knowing that she probably has a serious mental illness makes me actually start to feel somewhat sorry for her which takes some of the fun out of watching her collapse in front of us.
Knowing that she probably has a serious mental illness makes me actually start to feel somewhat sorry for her which takes some of the fun out of watching her collapse in front of us.
Why is it fun in the first place? It is sad and pathetic.
pariah-1972
01-14-2008, 10:55 AM
Why is it fun in the first place? It is sad and pathetic.Hmmm probably cause i despised her for being all over the tv and radio without having a lick of musical talent to call her own.
Jared H.
01-14-2008, 10:59 AM
Hmmm probably cause i despised her for being all over the tv and radio without having a lick of musical talent to call her own.
Unless she has personally slighted you, I don't think begrudging her success in spite of a lack of talent is justification for taking enjoyment in her current misery.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-16-2008, 01:29 PM
The crazy train continues....
http://www.411mania.com/music/news/67061/Latest-Crazy-Britney-Spears-Story.htm
Magneto_X
01-16-2008, 02:10 PM
Hogan lets his son get drunk and even provides him with the alcohol and allows him to race his car(even when he had all those other speeding tickets) while under the influence which caused that accident that nearly got his son's friend killed.
Forgot about that.
Does he let Brook do something like that or is this a case of double standards?
I don't watch Hogan Knows Best. Does he encourage his son to sleep with girls while being over-protective of Brooke?
Meanwhile Brit has been making all her stupid decisions as a grown-ass woman whom her parents have no control over and their 16 year daughter got pregnant.
I'm wondering exactly how Brit and Jamie were raised. They act like they can do anything they want with no consequences yet they're supposedly from a strict Christian family.
I don't see Brit's parents being better then Hogan but I also don't see being better then Brit's parents either. Just because Hogan is overprotected over his hot daughter doesn't make him a good parent. They all shitty parents.
I never said he was a good parents just doing a better job then Britney's parents did.
pariah-1972
01-16-2008, 02:28 PM
Forgot about that.
Does he let Brook do something like that or is this a case of double standards?
I don't watch Hogan Knows Best. Does he encourage his son to sleep with girls while being over-protective of Brooke?
I'm wondering exactly how Brit and Jamie were raised. They act like they can do anything they want with no consequences yet they're supposedly from a strict Christian family.
I never said he was a good parents just doing a better job then Britney's parents did.I do remember Hulk being over protective when his son had his girlfriend over and they were all touchy feely and he was determined to be a thorn in there side.
Magneto_X
01-16-2008, 02:31 PM
I do remember Hulk being over protective when his son had his girlfriend over and they were all touchy feely and he was determined to be a thorn in there side.
Was it done as a joke or for the girl's benefit?
pariah-1972
01-16-2008, 02:34 PM
Was it done as a joke or for the girl's benefit?I don't remember his exact reasons but he was uncomfortable with him being so hardcore into this girl
and a lot of it seemed like it might be jealousy on his part because his son didn't want to go do father-son type things with him anymore.
Shellhead
01-18-2008, 11:29 AM
As someone that works as a psychotherapist and who knows a fair bit about psychology and related disciplines, I can tell you that Dr. Phil doesn't know his stuff nearly as well as he pretends is the case. He's made factual errors in statements about a variety of topics, including effectiveness of treatment for sexual offenders, efficacy of treatment for sexual abuse survivors and what works and doesn't work in couple therapy, and his demonstrated understanding of things like cognitive-behavioral therapy suggests that he hasn't kept up with the field since at least the time he got his degree.
Everything I've ever seen from the guy and his writings tells me he's a therapist of fairly average-to-slightly-below-average knowledge and skill that has become famous for no good reason.
You're gonna love this:
"State of California Investigating Dr. Phil"
http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=293490>1=7703
"The complaint reportedly accuses Dr. Phil McGraw of practicing without a license when he visited Britney Spears at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center after her meltdown earlier this month, according to TMZ.com.
"Dr. Phil has never been licensed to practice in California, and he is no longer licensed in his home state of Texas.
"McGraw failed to complete the conditions imposed as disciplinary sanctions by the Texas State Board of Examiners of Psychologists in 1989."
pariah-1972
01-18-2008, 12:05 PM
You're gonna love this:
"State of California Investigating Dr. Phil"
http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=293490>1=7703
"The complaint reportedly accuses Dr. Phil McGraw of practicing without a license when he visited Britney Spears at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center after her meltdown earlier this month, according to TMZ.com.
"Dr. Phil has never been licensed to practice in California, and he is no longer licensed in his home state of Texas.
"McGraw failed to complete the conditions imposed as disciplinary sanctions by the Texas State Board of Examiners of Psychologists in 1989."
Well we can only pray something does happen (not sure what they could do?) i never thought Imus would get taken off MSNBC either so now i am not so cynical, but it would be awesome to have two idiotic rednecks taken off the air.
She's cute but I don't like what she is doing to herself.
It's sad.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-18-2008, 05:00 PM
She used to be cute but I don't like what she is doing to herself.
It's sad.
Fixed it for ya....;)
Spike-X
01-19-2008, 01:32 AM
Well, at least we know she's not pregnant again. (http://www.wwtdd.com//ul/3400-bs223.jpg)
(Some people might consider the picture behind the above link rather distasteful. Don't say you weren't warned.)
Lord of Denial
01-31-2008, 06:24 AM
Seems Miss Spears was taken from her home by ambulance with a police escort to the hospital for what the press is calling " To get Help".
It seems like she is in for mental evaluation.
pariah-1972
01-31-2008, 07:04 AM
Seems Miss Spears was taken from her home by ambulance with a police escort to the hospital for what the press is calling " To get Help".
It seems like she is in for mental evaluation.Thanks for the heads up dude i'm looking at tmz now:)
JDogindy
01-31-2008, 07:12 AM
Once again, the whole world talks about Britney.
This saddens me that important discoveries in science and important happenings around the world are being sidelined for "junk food news".
Lord of Denial
01-31-2008, 07:23 AM
Once again, the whole world talks about Britney.
This saddens me that important discoveries in science and important happenings around the world are being sidelined for "junk food news".
Oh I don't actually give a shit.
I just saw it on yahoo and knew there was a thread here so I posted it.
Once again, the whole world talks about Britney.
This saddens me that important discoveries in science and important happenings around the world are being sidelined for "junk food news".With all the problems Britney has right now, just treating her should bring on a renaissance of medical science.
sherlockbones
01-31-2008, 01:52 PM
deconstruction
memento mori
pariah-1972
01-31-2008, 02:05 PM
Can we get Micheal Jackson help now too?
Shellhead
01-31-2008, 02:37 PM
Can we get Micheal Jackson help now too?
No, he lost interest about the time that she lost custody of her kids.
sherlockbones
01-31-2008, 03:27 PM
how are the odds/bets on her making it past the next week vs pulling a ledger?
ahhh, brave new world
SUPERECWFAN1
01-31-2008, 05:29 PM
In sick twisted news ...the tabliods have already its said weeks ago printed up an obit to turn just in case it happens. Read that on Yahoo...
Spike-X
01-31-2008, 05:32 PM
It's not unusual for media outlets to have obituaries ready to go, "just in case".
Donald M.
01-31-2008, 05:35 PM
In sick twisted news ...the tabliods have already its said weeks ago printed up an obit to turn just in case it happens. Read that on Yahoo...
Actually it was an Associated Press obit that became "news" weeks ago. This is common practice amongst news organizations. The death of a celebrity is news and because such deaths can happen suddenly and unexpectedly - look at Heath Ledger - news organization typically have obits for any number of well known personages prepared, ready to plug in the most recent details should their use become necessary.
The fact that such obits for Britney exist ever became "news" is due solely to the fact that her death some time in the not-too-distant future seems all to probable.
Me, I predict she'll beat the odds and live to be tabloid fodder long after any memory of what made her famous in the first place has slipped the public consciousness.
Michael P
01-31-2008, 06:35 PM
Actually it was an Associated Press obit that became "news" weeks ago. This is common practice amongst news organizations. The death of a celebrity is news and because such deaths can happen suddenly and unexpectedly - look at Heath Ledger - news organization typically have obits for any number of well known personages prepared, ready to plug in the most recent details should their use become necessary.
"Former President Gerald Ford was devoured by wolves today. He was delicious."
Deathstroke
02-01-2008, 05:38 AM
The radio station I'm listening to said that one of the rumors floating around Hollywood about Britney's latest wig-out was due to the fact she found out her mother was doing Federline.
It's most likely a bogus rumor, but I have to say that I would not be surprised in the least if it turned out to be true.
Mama Spears is a despicable excuse for a mother/parent/human being.
Elegance Liberty
02-01-2008, 05:40 AM
Mama Spears is a despicable excuse for a mother/parent/human being.
Ain't that the truth.
Shellhead
02-01-2008, 07:01 AM
Can't we have a new hot young celebrity girl? This one's all used up.
Cam63
02-02-2008, 07:22 AM
I wish her and her kids well.
Abomination
02-03-2008, 01:25 PM
Jeez, that one wierd guy told us to "LEAVE HER ALONE! SOB!" a long time ago. Why, oh, why did we not listen?
SUPERECWFAN1
02-03-2008, 04:49 PM
The radio station I'm listening to said that one of the rumors floating around Hollywood about Britney's latest wig-out was due to the fact she found out her mother was doing Federline.
It's most likely a bogus rumor, but I have to say that I would not be surprised in the least if it turned out to be true.
Mama Spears is a despicable excuse for a mother/parent/human being.
Britney's mom has long since failed as mother of the year. She pretty much led her daughters into this whole world of not being responsible adults. So yeah...its no shock not many blame her. When the whole K-Fed thing happened it set off warning bells a normal parent would have. "Father has 2 kids , no job to take care of them ...ect ect"
Instead she claimed Federline had a great aura about him. Wow...
Deathstroke
02-14-2008, 04:30 AM
I guess you had to expect something like this was coming sooner or later:
http://313merch.com/big_images/britney+bitch.jpg
Magneto_X
02-14-2008, 04:53 AM
Can't we have a new hot young celebrity girl? This one's all used up.
Why do you think Disney is feeding us Ashley Tisdale and Miley Cyrus?
Titan76
02-14-2008, 07:30 AM
Mama Spears is a despicable excuse for a mother/parent/human being.
Britney's mom has long since failed as mother of the year. She pretty much led her daughters into this whole world of not being responsible adults.
I'm no Britney Spears fan but isn't it funny how its the mother who gets all the blame while the father always gets overlook? You would think he was father of the year.
I also think its funny how everything Britney does is not only her fault but her mother's fault as well. I mean last I look parents lose legal authority over their children at age 18 and Britney is how old now now?
And was how old when she started going crazy?
Granted, I don't keep track on what this woman(yes woman not little girl) does but I always laugh when Internet people blame Brit's mother all the time because she didn't raise her right when in fact those same people have no clue how Britney's parents raised her at all.
Radioactive Zombie
02-14-2008, 07:32 AM
That's ironic, because, usually in custody cases, the law leans in the mother's favor. Ask a lot of divorced men...
Shellhead
02-14-2008, 07:44 AM
I'm no Britney Spears fan but isn't it funny how its the mother who gets all the blame while the father always gets overlook? You would think he was father of the year.
I also think its funny how everything Britney does is not only her fault but her mother's fault as well. I mean last I look parents lose legal authority over their children at age 18 and Britney is how old now now?
And was how old when she started going crazy?
Granted, I don't keep track on what this woman(yes woman not little girl) does but I always laugh when Internet people blame Brit's mother all the time because she didn't raise her right when in fact those same people have no clue how Britney's parents raised her at all.
Offhand, I'm going to guess that it wasn't her father's idea for Britney to dress up in slutty outfits and act like a stripper. Most fathers are kind of weirded out by the idea of their daughters having sex.
Typo Lad
02-14-2008, 07:48 AM
Offhand, I'm going to guess that it wasn't her father's idea for Britney to dress up in slutty outfits and act like a stripper. Most fathers are kind of weirded out by the idea of their daughters having sex.
Except Jessica Simpson's dad.
FOR THE LOVE OF G-D STOP TALKING ABOUT HER TITTIES!
Radioactive Zombie
02-14-2008, 07:51 AM
I don't, not interested in celebrity bimboes.
Titan76
02-14-2008, 07:55 AM
That's ironic, because, usually in custody cases, the law leans in the mother's favor. Ask a lot of divorced men...
Is this in response to my post? If it is what did it have to do with anything I said?
Offhand, I'm going to guess that it wasn't her father's idea for Britney to dress up in slutty outfits and act like a stripper. Most fathers are kind of weirded out by the idea of their daughters having sex.
So because it might not have been her father's idea it automatically means it was her mother's idea right?
I mean are you saying that Brit's mother told her to dress up like a slut and act like a stripper? As far I a know Brit's mom was never her manager or agent like other female celeb mothers. Britney has been dressing up like a slut since before she was 18, why didn't her father do anything then?
Could it be that both her parents did a crappy job of raising her or could it be that maybe she was a slut to begin with no matter what her parents did? Or could it be something else? I don't know and try not to pretend I do.
Radioactive Zombie
02-14-2008, 08:03 AM
What I'm saying is that, usually where women succeed even in obvious cases of abuse/drugs, she's losing just due to media coverage and taking a LOT of heat, even when she claims to be caring for them.
In any case, she needs mental help.
Nick Soapdish
02-14-2008, 08:04 AM
We do know that Britney's mother indulged her daughter's desire to become a teen popstar, even though sometimes you shouldn't indulge your kids' dreams, or even pushed her into it.
We can surmise that she didn't do a very good job of preparing her daughter for the lifestyle.
From what little I've read when she's spoken to the media, she's shown a unsurprising lack of judgment.
Brit's father isn't father of the year or anything either, but he seems to have been a non-presence rather than actively helping her on this path. And he's given fewer soundbites of his poor fathering.
Titan76
02-14-2008, 08:22 AM
What I'm saying is that, usually where women succeed even in obvious cases of abuse/drugs, she's losing just due to media coverage and taking a LOT of heat, even when she claims to be caring for them.
In any case, she needs mental help.
I think you might have misunderstood a part of my post. When I said this:
I'm no Britney Spears fan but isn't it funny how its the mother who gets all the blame while the father always gets overlook? You would think he was father of the year.
I'm talking about Britney's parents, not her and whatever his name is.
We do know that Britney's mother indulged her daughter's desire to become a teen popstar, even though sometimes you shouldn't indulge your kids' dreams, or even pushed her into it.
I didn't know this and how do you know this? I'm being serious too and not trying to act like a jerk.
We can surmise that she didn't do a very good job of preparing her daughter for the lifestyle.
If that's true and I mean if, how do you exactly prepare your kid for a celebrity life when you yourself aren't even a celeb? I not trying to defend Britney's mother but preparing your kid for a normal life is one thing, preparing them for a Hollywood life is another thing.
From what little I've read when she's spoken to the media, she's shown a unsurprising lack of judgment.
Brit or her mom?
Brit's father isn't father of the year or anything either, but he seems to have been a non-presence rather than actively helping her on this path. And he's given fewer soundbites of his poor fathering.
If this is true this would make him worse then Britney's mother imo.
Deathstroke
02-14-2008, 12:02 PM
Never mind.
Deathstroke
02-14-2008, 12:04 PM
Except Jessica Simpson's dad.
FOR THE LOVE OF G-D STOP TALKING ABOUT HER TITTIES!
Yeah that's Typo's job! :D
Typo Lad
02-14-2008, 12:13 PM
No. No thank you.
Too blond.
Karl J Barnes
02-14-2008, 01:23 PM
No. No thank you.
Too blond.
Figuratively or Literality? Or both?
Deathstroke
02-14-2008, 04:59 PM
No. No thank you.
Too blond.
Anti-Blondite?
Typo Lad
02-14-2008, 05:01 PM
Both.
Blonds do nothing for me and stupidity, even faked, is a turn off.
Magneto_X
02-14-2008, 05:28 PM
Except Jessica Simpson's dad.
FOR THE LOVE OF G-D STOP TALKING ABOUT HER TITTIES!
Thats another thread entirely. lol
Magneto_X
02-14-2008, 05:32 PM
We do know that Britney's mother indulged her daughter's desire to become a teen popstar, even though sometimes you shouldn't indulge your kids' dreams, or even pushed her into it.
We can surmise that she didn't do a very good job of preparing her daughter for the lifestyle.
From what little I've read when she's spoken to the media, she's shown a unsurprising lack of judgment.
Brit's father isn't father of the year or anything either, but he seems to have been a non-presence rather than actively helping her on this path. And he's given fewer soundbites of his poor fathering.
Brit was famous before she was a pop star. She was on the Mickey Mouse Club IIRC.
Her mother was heavily involved even back then in her show biz career.
howyadoin
02-14-2008, 05:49 PM
Brit was famous before she was a pop star. She was on the Mickey Mouse Club IIRC.
Her mother was heavily involved even back then in her show biz career.Of course she was. It's not like Michael Eisner drove around kidnapping children and forcing them to be Mousketeers. Her mother was running her career for years.
The company best known for releasing the "Korn Gave Head to God" shirt has come up with another one. It's based on the cover to Iron Maiden's album Piece of Mind.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Don3172/britney_bitch131.jpg
Magneto_X
02-15-2008, 10:53 AM
Both.
Blonds do nothing for me and stupidity, even faked, is a turn off.
I'm the same.
Deathstroke
02-15-2008, 12:00 PM
The company best known for releasing the "Korn Gave Head to God" shirt has come up with another one. It's based on the cover to Iron Maiden's album Piece of Mind.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Don3172/britney_bitch131.jpg
DUDE, that is so....something I posted yesterday!
It's still pretty damn funny though.
howyadoin
02-15-2008, 03:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Don3172/britney_bitch131.jpgI wish people still learned about commas in elementary school.
StoneGold
02-15-2008, 04:03 PM
I wish people still learned about commas in elementary school.
Maybe they're saying her name is Britney Bitch?
howyadoin
02-15-2008, 04:27 PM
Maybe they're saying her name is Britney Bitch?Makes me wonder about all those "I'm the Juggernaut Bitch" people, then.
Of course she was. It's not like Michael Eisner drove around kidnapping children and forcing them to be Mousketeers. Her mother was running her career for years.
haha! LOL!
I know, you don't respect people who type that, but it's what I did upon reading your post! :)
Deathstroke
02-15-2008, 06:28 PM
I wish people still learned about commas in elementary school.
Must you always piss on the funny?
howyadoin
02-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Must you always piss on the funny?I piss on the uneducated, not the funny.
DUDE, that is so....something I posted yesterday!
It's still pretty damn funny though.
Yesterday? This thread grows faster than Rita's. I'm not supposed to follow yesterday's posts. ;)
pariah-1972
02-17-2008, 01:55 PM
The problem i have with her mother is trying to exploit her by releasing a book and pushing/helping a little girl into stardom with little obvious talent and then ignoring her daughters tendency towards stripper like tendencies even before she was legal.
i know that if i saw my daughter doing half the stuff she has done i would rip her blonde head off, but instead they spoiled her and encouraged her because she was making them money.
i'm not sure how much the father was knowledgeable about this since we just found out he had a drinking problem but he is just as responsible too.
her parents right now seem more concerned about her money than her mental issues.
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