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Jake V
03-22-2005, 12:28 AM
http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0805&id=2005032201160002824578

Long story short, Thomas Haden Church (who was recently in Sideways) is the new villain.

They aren't saying who he'll be playing, but he really could be anyone. He's played intellectuals and he's played morons in the past, plus he has the ability to be a total prick on camera, so this is good news. In my opinion, he could play a mean Eddie Brock.

I really like how they aren't casting big names for the sake of having a big name in the cast. This way, more attention can go to the character.

Grant
03-22-2005, 12:59 AM
http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0805&id=2005032201160002824578

Long story short, Thomas Haden Church (who was recently in Sideways) is the new villain.


I'm thinking he's playing Stegron the Dinosaur Man. Church is ideal for Stegron. My first choice is James Woods though.

Artemis1
03-22-2005, 03:20 AM
I'm thinking he's playing Stegron the Dinosaur Man. Church is ideal for Stegron. My first choice is James Woods though.

Stegron may be a fairly tough Spidey villain, but NO.

Artemis1
03-22-2005, 03:20 AM
That gets rid of Green Goblin 2.

Artemis1
03-22-2005, 03:23 AM
This gets rid of GG2, Venom, Lizard, and Manwolf.

cable guy
03-22-2005, 06:41 AM
I don't think it gets rid of anybody.

GG2 would be Harry if they had 2 villians.

UncleBob
03-22-2005, 09:46 AM
This gets rid of GG2, Venom, Lizard, and Manwolf.

Doesn't get rid of Venom, they haven't shown Brock at all in the movies.

Swiz
03-22-2005, 12:15 PM
I'm thinking he's playing Stegron the Dinosaur Man. Church is ideal for Stegron. My first choice is James Woods though.

lol what is it with you and stegon.

Artemis1
03-22-2005, 12:22 PM
Doesn't get rid of Venom, they haven't shown Brock at all in the movies.

Well, Venom's out anyways.

Swiz
03-22-2005, 12:24 PM
This gets rid of GG2, Venom, Lizard, and Manwolf.

I agree with cable guy and uncle bob. This cant get rid of GG2 venom lizard and manwolf. I mean there can be more than 1 villian. Thomas Haden Church could play as venom or hobgoblin and have a little twist in there with harry has GG2 but I am hoping that he is venom. With todays technology, they can really make Venom a badass that he is. Heres what i think might happen

John Jameson goes in space and brings back the symbiote(or whatever you know what i mean) along with the medallion that turns him into Man-Wolf. Spidey finds this and starts to kick ass. After awhile spidey hates it.

Meanwhile Brock joins Daily Bugle, prints libel, gets fired and his wife leaves him so he goes to the church All sait ladies or whatever. Spidey is there cause the symbiote doesnt like sound so that symbiote slithers off of spidey and drips onto unsespecting Eddie Brock who gets it. Then Venom appears and spidey must defeat him while Eddie/Venom is getting his revenge.

Swiz
03-22-2005, 12:27 PM
Btw when i was talking about hobgoblin he could be in the begining with my theory fighting GG2 and spidey gets in the way

Artemis1
03-22-2005, 12:35 PM
I agree with cable guy and uncle bob. This cant get rid of GG2 venom lizard and manwolf. I mean there can be more than 1 villian. Thomas Haden Church could play as venom or hobgoblin and have a little twist in there with harry has GG2 but I am hoping that he is venom. With todays technology, they can really make Venom a badass that he is. Heres what i think might happen

John Jameson goes in space and brings back the symbiote(or whatever you know what i mean) along with the medallion that turns him into Man-Wolf. Spidey finds this and starts to kick ass. After awhile spidey hates it.

Meanwhile Brock joins Daily Bugle, prints libel, gets fired and his wife leaves him so he goes to the church All sait ladies or whatever. Spidey is there cause the symbiote doesnt like sound so that symbiote slithers off of spidey and drips onto unsespecting Eddie Brock who gets it. Then Venom appears and spidey must defeat him while Eddie/Venom is getting his revenge.

Sam only wants one big villain.

Swiz
03-22-2005, 12:38 PM
It was just my opinion GOSH!

stealthwise
03-22-2005, 12:38 PM
I think that it would be hilarious if they cast Church as a brand new villain. :)

However, my guess would have to go with either Mysterio or Electro.

Titan Slade
03-22-2005, 12:41 PM
Sand Man :D .

BoosterBronze
03-22-2005, 12:54 PM
Im not even gonna guess who Church will be (Except I hope he reprises his role as THE GREAT STROBE from the "Speacials").

Im curious how, if Church is the villain, how Raimi is going to tie up the "Harry Goes Crazy" plot from 2.

Siddon
03-22-2005, 01:03 PM
Im not even gonna guess who Church will be (Except I hope he reprises his role as THE GREAT STROBE from the "Speacials").

Im curious how, if Church is the villain, how Raimi is going to tie up the "Harry Goes Crazy" plot from 2.

It really depends on if Franco is returning for a fourth film. I can see them building Harry into becoming the Green Goblin so that they would have a real selling point for the fourth film. I mean we know Kirsten Dunst will not be returning and Sam Rami but I can't imagine the Studio wanting to give up on a Multi-billion dollar franchise.

I think Church could really work as Venom or Sandman but it would have to be someone whose powers change their body structure or else he won't be menacing enough.

Ned Leeds
03-22-2005, 01:19 PM
Thomas Haden Church as....... The Spot!!!!

static
03-22-2005, 04:03 PM
I honestly think the list is down to Venom or Sandman. Hobgoblin or Green Goblin harry is redundant within the franchise and that alone will be reason enough for studio execs to kill the idea of it carrying the film. man wolf is too obscure, mysterio and electro arent visually kewl enough.

i think its Venom but i hope its sandman!!!!!

Cody H
03-22-2005, 04:13 PM
So Spidey's villain for the next movie will be Lowell (http://www.tvland.com/nickatnite/shows/wings/downloads/lowell.jpg) from wings, huh? Fair enough

Neolucifer
03-22-2005, 04:19 PM
mysterio and electro arent visually kewl enough.

Mysterio ok maybe , or it would need some huge work . But Electro ??? especially in his current almost-magneto level of late as shown in MK spidey and New avengers ??

With a modified costume and powers of the same level shown in the mentioned comics , he could be a quite decent movie villain .

Also while nobody never think of him , raimi might the road of a "unpopular" villain . Someone like the Shocker .

So Spidey's villain for the next movie will be Lowell from wings, huh? Fair enough

come on lets at least post a decent photo of the guy :D

http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/35/35032.jpg

Cody H
03-22-2005, 04:45 PM
come on lets at least post a decent photo of the guy :D
Yeah, sorry about that. I just figured I had to post that pick so posters who are unfamiliar with Wings could appreciate at least a taste of the half-witted hilarity that was Lowell.

Dread Pirate Bluetail
03-22-2005, 07:38 PM
I don't see how this eliminates The Lizard - unless everyone is dependent on the guy who played Connors in Spidey 2 reprising the role - which he may or may not be a good enough actor to pull off, as opposed to a total maybe 5 minutes of screen time. And this guy looks an awful lot like he could be Doc Connors.

Siddon
03-22-2005, 07:42 PM
I don't see how this eliminates The Lizard - unless everyone is dependent on the guy who played Connors in Spidey 2 reprising the role - which he may or may not be a good enough actor to pull off, as opposed to a total maybe 5 minutes of screen time. And this guy looks an awful lot like he could be Doc Connors.

Dylan Baker is an amazing Actor (see the film Hapiness), they won't let him go.

donovan
03-22-2005, 07:48 PM
I think he's Dr. Barton Hamilton, Harry's therapist.

Artemis1
03-23-2005, 04:02 AM
I think he's Dr. Barton Hamilton, Harry's therapist.


HAHAHAHAHA! Wow. I needed a good laugh. GG3? He was the worst Goblin ever! Church looks like an Electro or Hobgoblin(though Tommy Lee Jones as the Hobgoblin would be cool).

Santanico
03-23-2005, 04:14 AM
However, my guess would have to go with either Mysterio or Electro.

Ooh, that'd be great. Although I'd always thought Dean Winters (better known as Ryan O'Reilly from Oz) would make a great Electro, and, thanks to Bendis and the Ult Spidey "Hollywood" arc, I've become used to imagining Bruce Campbell as Mysterio. :D

Still, I like THC as an actor, and he could probably pull off either role. Just so long as he isn't Venom, really, I'll be happy (because, dear lord, I hate that character so much).

bitplayer
03-23-2005, 04:45 AM
Church's huge forhead screams out sandman to me. But I don't think sandman can carry out a villians role by himself. In a book sure but a movie? Nah.

Not that it matters what I think sort of out of the loop as it were.

Still he is a good actor and whatever he does has to be better than say ahnald as mr freeze.

Grant
03-23-2005, 05:29 AM
Dylan Baker is an amazing Actor (see the film Hapiness), they won't let him go.

My understanding is they plan to use him as the Lizard in the future. At least that's what I recall in a Dylan Baker interview. It'd be nice if they kept Dr. Conners as a supporting character. Of course we all remember what happened with Billy Dee Williams and the Batman movies so this could all change.

I think Church could be a variety of guys. Mysterio, Electro, Sandman, Scorpion heck he'd could be Venom and I wouldn't mind (okay a little but hey). I'm just glad they got a good actor.

thomas_catbiscuit
03-23-2005, 05:38 AM
http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=16650

SalazarSleaze2
03-23-2005, 07:52 AM
You can't deny that the producers of the Spidey films make sure they get respected, talented people to play villains as opposed to "name" superstars...

As for Church, I don't know...his face totally screams ELECTRO to me...
Who knows....

donovan
03-23-2005, 08:53 AM
HAHAHAHAHA! Wow. I needed a good laugh. GG3? He was the worst Goblin ever! Church looks like an Electro or Hobgoblin(though Tommy Lee Jones as the Hobgoblin would be cool).

Haha...all right. Pretty much everyone I say that to thinks I'm nuts. But, I'm along the lines of what Booster is saying:


Im curious how, if Church is the villain, how Raimi is going to tie up the "Harry Goes Crazy" plot from 2.


Looking at Church, my first internal reaction is definitely to think he's pegged for Lizard (Dylan Baker is out?), Sandman, or someone else more high profile. But really, if you take in the second movie, could it hint any more that Harry is going to be the main event in the third? I'm only trying to imagine how they can practically and smoothly integrate Church's character into Harry's development, all while considering villains he may resemble. Dr. Hamilton came to mind. Meh. We'll see I guess, but I'm really not hoping for the ultrapolyvillain approach that was big in the downfall of the Batman franchise. This creative team hasn't missed, yet, though, so I trust them. :) (Which is also why I think them doing 'GG3' from the comics could work out well.)

ace hole
03-23-2005, 11:36 AM
i think harry and the new villain will be kept separated to avoid what happend in the later batman films, with harry fighting the second bad guy in the end.

Neolucifer
03-23-2005, 12:13 PM
Well Raimi already said he doesnt like movies with two villains (if i'm right ) .

He also said he doesnt like Venom , or rather than he enjoy moe classical foes .

"But Marvel could order him to include Venom anyway" , i already hear some people say :D .
I dont think so , especially after a major marvel movie director such as Singer leaving for the concurrence .
Should they even try to boss Raimi around like that and piss him off , i wouldnt be surprised to see someday Raimi doing lets say "Green lantern" or other dc/wildstorm icons :D .

I think we wont see Venom , unless they convinced him somehow . And even if they managed to do so , i wouldnt expect him in that movie , but a future one , as the last of a serie .

Lizard
03-23-2005, 01:19 PM
I think he may be HobGoblin or maybe Carnage :)

nanteen
03-23-2005, 02:48 PM
he has got to be Curt Conners the Lizard.

Just becuase they already had someone else in the role last movie means ZERO.


EDIT Let me take that back he could be Electro also.

donovan
03-23-2005, 03:02 PM
http://www.pressconnects.com/saturday/lifestyle/stories/li031905s155196.shtml



He's under contract not to talk much about Spider-Man 3, but Phoenix did say that the crew is in the conceptual design process for the villains, who are Man-Wolf and Venom.

bitplayer
03-23-2005, 03:13 PM
So spidey gets the suit, fights man-wolf (which the actor looks like a good basis for), and the suit starts to reveal itself towards the end leaving a cliffhanger?

'O and that dude is so busted!

:D

Neolucifer
03-23-2005, 03:31 PM
He's under contract not to talk much about Spider-Man 3, but Phoenix did say that the crew is in the conceptual design process for the villains, who are Man-Wolf and Venom.

Like you said conceptual designs , doesnt necessarily mean any or both will be picked . Maybe raimi is "playing" both against each other , comparing their worth to see wich one he picks .

Alan2099
03-23-2005, 03:48 PM
I still say he'd make a good kangaroo.

pesmerga316
03-23-2005, 04:01 PM
too old for Brock and remember Eddy's a bodybuilder, something Church is far from and not going to be no matter what he tries.

Any Sinister Six members a possibility?

Abomination
03-23-2005, 04:02 PM
Chuch will be playing:..............


THE TERRIBLE TINKERER!!!!!!!!!

BizarroBeachHead
03-24-2005, 06:23 AM
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned Kraven. I think it could be very plausible to see THC as Kraven. A least just as plausible as Scorpion, Hobgoblin, Shocker, or Electro anyway. Plus, Kraven's a more...I guess "epic" villian than the others.

It's very possible to continue the "Harry goes crazy" storyline with another villian. It could either be a subplot where Harry is brooding over it, hiding his intentions from Peter, or Harry could be funding the villian that goes after Spidey, or a combination of both! Hell, Rami might set it up for future movies to use Harry in that fashion, mastermind villian funding all the other baddies. Who knows, but it's still possible to use, even if Rami and the cast is leaving after this movie.

The Joker
03-24-2005, 12:51 PM
Personally, I hope it's VENOM.

I seem to remember reading an interview with Raimi, and he said that the villian in Spider-Man 3 would be a indivdual that would literally stand in the way of Peter becoming a man.

Cant say I see this in Sandman, or Electro. Although I can see Venom being a adversary along these lines. Maybe not. But I hope so. Would make a bit more sense since Venom is pretty much the evil version of Spider-Man.

Grant
03-26-2005, 07:03 PM
Personally, I hope it's VENOM.

I seem to remember reading an interview with Raimi, and he said that the villian in Spider-Man 3 would be a indivdual that would literally stand in the way of Peter becoming a man.

Cant say I see this in Sandman, or Electro. Although I can see Venom being a adversary along these lines. Maybe not. But I hope so. Would make a bit more sense since Venom is pretty much the evil version of Spider-Man.

Well they could make the villan fill that role. Doc Ock and Green Goblin weren't exactly father figures to Peter in the comics but the movies made them that way.

Nightcrawler
03-26-2005, 07:09 PM
My bet would be either Venom or Electro. It's been said that the villian would be 'visually attractive', so either of those two fit the bill.

Grant
03-26-2005, 08:38 PM
My bet would be either Venom or Electro. It's been said that the villian would be 'visually attractive', so either of those two fit the bill.

I don't know, Sandman is kind of hot.

Reptisaurus!
03-30-2005, 04:24 PM
Stegron may be a fairly tough Spidey villain, but NO.

You are dead to me.

cable guy
03-30-2005, 04:53 PM
I don't know, Sandman is kind of hot.

You mean like how the sand on the beach gets hot?